Adventurer #13
31 марта 2002 |
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Chaos Construction 2001 - intevyu with Vivid, Megus, Tiggr of Brain-Wave.
Elf> Well, for starters, although I have all of you know, introduce yourself to the interview. Megus> Roman Petrov aka Megus. Vivid> Alexey Malov aka Vivid. X-Cyber> Sergei Bazhin aka X-Cyber. Elf> Firstly, I want to ask you. In Last time I interviewed, and you promised that igruhu will do. On the date you said nothing, but I'm wondering, you at least started to do it? And as far as she progressed. Megus> She did not moved. We its not even started to do ... Elf> Damn! Come on, get away from them ... Next to us suddenly appeared cops and Unbeliever just started to explain that all can easily stay the night right on the party place, just need to purchase a can be more beer now, since then entrance / exit of the theater may close ... Although, in general, the problem with this is no was not ... Vivid> Tiger! Come here soon ... Elf> Well, here you are now all in full, since Tigrr also came ... Will continue .... Explain to me the situation with the game. Vivid> Here's an organizer, he will tell you everything. Megus> Here's organizer now say that nothing we have not started because as we have the biggest problem with the graphics and remained not solved. Elf> Do you in fact, in my opinion, there's an artist? Tigrr> Our artists just do not. Megus> Yea, artists just do not. Just this is a game, and there must nemerenoe number of graphics. Just no graphics, ie, until we do not have an artist who could draw a number of graphs, no sense to start writing game. Elf> And on whom you counted on when I talked about this? Megus> hoped, in my opinion, this is what Tigrr be able to draw something. Vivid> A couple of pictures he seems to draw on paper. Megus> Yes, that is, Tigrr, sort of like on paper as early as this style of painting, in principle, to adapt himself. But on a kompyutere it turns out, unfortunately, not very well. We have a second artist, but he paints a very rare, unfortunately. And he did not great respect for this style of graphics that we wanted to do. It is therefore very a pity that all the so-bummer. Elf> Actually, in addition to demos, which, of course, Most importantly, some were Releases for the year? I have something like this, especially noticed nothing. Megus> And was not it. Elf> clear. A expected? Megus> I hope so. I, of course, no matter how it happened that that's said about the project, and then suddenly it will not ... Elf> No, well, I did not impose anything. Just interested. Megus> Just how would not want to get the glory of Digital Reality, who bequeathed a bunch of projects ... Elf> Exactly. I say, do not tell about any timeline. Just, well, what you It will be interesting to do. Megus> Well, actually, here I am now eager to do after the party music disc. This phenomenon on the Spectrum not yet. Elf> And, it really is. Somehow, in We still nobody did ... Megus> Here. I want to make your own music disk. The music will be written by a new, original. That is not my old releases but something new. I will specifically write music disk. Naturally, he will be released in the shell, where all the graphics, design, interface. Here is here I want to do. Elf> Well, you can add that? Vivid> We have a general idea was to release DeMouy this here is the SS, yes, and as if in the future, it is the demo making on the Spectrum score. Elf> This is bad ... Vivid> Not because we are hammering on the Spectrum, at the Spectrum, we are not sacrificed, because that here in this Deme, I personally, as a coder Chief, personally I have reached, at least I think their limits. Released a second demy exactly the same, may be a bit better, ie, when there is no progress ... Elf> himself is not interested in making simple, eh? Vivid> Yes, that, compared with Tryptomine dream, where progress is obvious. Elf> I have not seen. Bye. Vivid> You'll see! Tigrr> It has not been seen. Incidentally. Even the organizer. Vivid> Yes, here it has not been seen, it will see tomorrow. Megus> Besides us, it is tested on demo computer, but it still has not been seen. Vivid> Here, that is, no matter how it will treat the audience will like - not like I am, of course, 100% do not speak, that more demos from us should not be expected, but the deme will be only in the case, if there is something fundamentally new. Radical ideas on the Spectrum. Ie, y we have here is a pair of these effects, which on the Spectrum was not. Elf> intriguing is right. Megus> Well, intriguing, there are technologies that have never not on the Spectrum was ... Vivid> There's one ... Megus> Silence! Do not tell secrets, Alex. Vivid> Wait, I say - there is an effect there. I'm over it now, puffed month. Tigrr> manually write all, incidentally. Vivid> Yes, yes. There are some sources in 1990 KB in Zasm'ovskom format. Megus> By the way, we are very much afraid that her take over the animation. This is not animation. Elf> Ie, you can generally tell u you there is an animation, a Deme? Megus> No, not a single effect! Elf> Well, everything. Megus> And by the way, in rebuttal was said in the journal Sinclair Club 4, bylo published an interview after a SS'000 Sair00s'om. Tam, of course, has not been named No specific names were not link specific, accurate, but, in general, of his words was clear that he alludes our DeMouy and says that she is for the most part of the animation. Elf> Well, it was, in principle, and in their newspaper. A small article. In Kosme # 0, you've read, I guess. Megus> Yes, we do a retraction. There's no frame animation! In the same way. There, all clean code. All the effects, it is CODE IS MADE! Vivid> That is, no offense will Sair00s'u said there had words were these: "Well, if Deme pret multicolor 50 fps, this is clearly pure animation. "It's almost quote. Megus> This quote is. Elf> Well, yes, yes, I remember, I remember. Vivid> Here. First, the Sair00s'a, not insult to him will be said, a little freymometr shot down. Well, there are 50 fps only 2 effect. Elf> Well, yes, yes, I agree. Vivid> And the rest look like 50 fps for the most part just because they are made in multicolor, people somehow got used to that Everything that is done in multicolor - 50 fps. But even those effects that are 50 fps rod, there is calculation, Behold, it is parallel. Elf> Well, of course. Vivid> ie, no advance precalculating, Well, a couple of tables designed, but it is said ... Elf> It always does. Vivid> Yes, it's always done. Megus> just becomes so much progress that people are taking effect for animation. That is, they think that such a done at the Spectrum can not be! Elf> That is, now that's a problem arose. Megus> Yes, that's ... Vivid> Kstati, last year, then I thinking that the effect which I implemented, which occupies 90 Kbytes of source code, to implement in real time is impossible in principle. I thought so, approximately, before the winter. I started writing it, somewhere Now, in early February, somewhere in the middle March, I finished it ... Elf> impressive. Vivid> Well, this is the only effect that so long occupied. Megus> Yes, it is the first in the Deme. Vivid> Other effects which are so proud of Placebo, in writing of such effects was spent literally days 2-3. Megus> That is, it may take 2-3 days. But this is - this is the month code. Elf> Okay, okay. Vivid> And the big distorted. Very. Elf> Wait a minute, as well as you now interesting in terms of coding to do? Vivid> I do not know. I'm here, for all his life is not a single worthwhile game was not released. What we do - it was a Brainwave Here, Megus did. Megus> The two games they all are, well, a completely, my second we did with MAV'om. Also from our group people. Ie, two Games have done Brainwave, and in creating both participated myself. Want to still develop the game maker'skuyu activities. Vivid> Here's the first game did more or less so I'm still at school, on the tape was still. Wild Gunman. Elf> Something I do not know, honestly. Vivid> And its no one saw! Megus> No one saw her. It is beyond our city is gone. Vivid> There che, cheldobrek out how here on dendy, hover, shoot, Yes. But there were funny animated inserts, there are only 2 levels. The first level - goes ninja on it you get, his head explodes, the second - it turns out there Chapaev to shoot him, the his pants fall down. There. The only What we had done for 2, 5 weeks. On cassette. Then another did in the gens. Tigrr> Then, still no Brainwave not was. Vivid> Since I only play for any not undertake, and the deadly race, ie, wanted to make something like micro-machines ... Megus> You know a game on the PC micro machines? Elf> No, nifiga. Megus> Fun toy. Elf> Well, like, Iron Man, or not? Vivid> Yes. There, everything moves, 50 fps, here. Elf> This is one of my favorite games is simple! Megus> But there on one screen, ie, he's huge! Elf> scrolling, right? Megus> Yes, there is a map all the scrolls. Vivid> Map 4 pages served. Elf> Ah, here it would be nice. And why you will not finish? And even any demos we saw. Vivid> Yes, there was, here, incidentally, a cool case, we, first, conducted Conference - the school computer ... Megus> In the city with us ... Vivid> ... I'm on it, and it represented, it asked, "Well, by that time was ready only map editor, so we asked the question, by the way, you and asked to support: "Do you color something is, generally, in the game are planned? ". I was a catchphrase he said, still we laugh over it, I said: "Yes, black and white." Well, was not released. I do not know, that ended the conference, to make it to the conference, we will not managed, and scored. Elf> Not if such igruhu do to one frame all the work - this has not There was nothing. Megus> By the way, in addition. Both here These toys, which we did, they both exhibited at the conference, and now Chopper Duel, a well-known toy, took second place and won the first Scorched Earth place. Elf> Normal. And what there is still work were? Megus> Given the fact that it is in fact the only Spectrum games were. The rest - it was RS'shnye game, ie Students make a game. Ie, we can imagine how Spectrum can udelat PC 'shku. In terms of playability. Megus> Here we have a new staff - young coder Vortex, he intro here 4K presents ... Elf> Wait a minute, looked like? Megus> The first 4k intro, with the music. Vivid> It was the third in a row. She Chaos called. Elf> Ah, well, relatively well ... Vivid> Here is a man this year completed Grade 9. He was at the conference 2 times have participated. Last year he won there the first place. Made, the next version of color lines, then he has experience koderstva was 6.5 months. Elf> He is now with you not come, as I understand? Vivid> No, no. He did not come. Well, his parents did not let go, even with fininsami problem. Elf> Well, understandable. Vivid> Here, this year he wanted to do game port these, Heroes 2 or 3. On the Spectrum. Elf> For how many people try it do? Megus> He even hodilo something. Vivid> Well, the sprites he, of course, for a conference ripped from the "Black Crow". Well, rider out there. Landscape he painted. Here, there ran cheldobrechek like even full of simulation mode of battle was unfinished. In short, this toy has won first place, well there too, along with MS 'shnymi works when assessed. Elf> So you have every year it takes place? Megus> Yes, yes. Annual Conference. Elf> This is where, exactly, all met, probably, or not? Vivid> Yes, with him we met there. Megus> I exhibited Chopper Duel, a he svoego Wild Gunman. Vivid> And Igor, Igor then what did? Tigrr> I do not remember. Megus> Whether the "Coast of Death" ... Vivid> He, he, he. Megus> All there is met. In general. Elf> And what's "Coast of Death"? Megus> Oh, it's the same thing. Unreleased work. Never completed yet. Tigrr> It is even at this conference has not been completed yet. There's only boat sailed, and everything. Elf> clear. Vivid> So now scored in demo making, until a radically new ideas, a radically new engines, and do the release, such is not particularly large projects, such as in Fatality were toys ... Elf> clear. But in-jokes that play on ... Megus> Just as a little game maker'ov. Here at this party has brought new people dizzy. Elf> promised two, by the way, someone told me. Megus> Gogin. Elf> Yes, we had also taken an interview. Megus> He brought a new Dizzy. I just have not seen this game. I do not know how she done. He handed me personally diskette a copy of this game. If a person made a game, he should be rewarded. I did not regretted. I gave him $ 100 for this game. Suppose it works, wrote another play. I did not even know what this game. But I do not mind the money ... Elf> He himself wrote the music and graphics, are considered. The one that is not torn it. Well, the code in the Basically, normal. He is currently still writing on the same igruhu. Megus> Great. Let wrote. This cool. Elf> Yes. Vivid> Well, here we have a project hacked. Here realtime strategy was for 256 Kbytes. Here, we have our artist just sorry. He probably then interest to draw on the Spectrum lost .. That is not this and the fact that we have stayed in the city. So he painted alone sprite characters is 100 kilobytes. Elf> And what was the reason that you have it hacked? Megus> Just somehow everything turned down quietly. Elf> Who was the main coder'om? Vivid> I was coder'om ... Elf> So it completed yet, since you want igruhu do now. Megus> Just he ... Vivid> And now, as it were, is not the time and such a big project ... Megus> Do not pull up. X-Cyber> Yes. Elf> Well, understandable. And then so long delayed, that interest is already on this can you themselves abyss ... X-Cyber> The project is mainly bent because of the fact that the demos were writing. Megus> Less and less time was devoted to the game, and so she slowly bent. Elf> A pity. Megus> We did it in '98, decided to do. And she was good was done. Vivid> The engine is more powerful Mednonogovskogo was. Megus> What is the "Black Maria" first. Vivid> poshustree. Megus> About the second can not say anything I can not. Vivid> More and color. Megus> I mean, the sprites, too colorful. Vivid> Sprites background color were, and This is also faster than Mednonogova. Elf> Normal. Yeah. Tigrr> It is also optimized to horror was. Vivid> Yes, if I still like vneglasnoe nickname was "manic-optimizer." Elf> And say, if the same Jackals compare? Well, there are also color schedule. The latter was demo version. Megus> You should see a demo version. Vivid> I, I did not break Jackals. Elf> There encoder core rewrote it, there generally, the full program. Vivid> Now, I never looked at the code, but the Jackals had more to do. We further O card and something else there ... Tigrr> Sprites you ran it on the map, and everything. Vivid> running, yes. And nothing, nothing there management, no such thing else. Elf> Well, of course. Basically, you have more or less optimistic views on the future of something? Megus> Yes. Vivid> Yes. Elf> It is very pleasing. Vivid> Even though this fellow and said: "zabem, zabem all generally leave on the PC" (Pointing to Tigrr'a). On a PC? Y We now just have potential. Megus> This is wrong. We have nobody on the PC to work properly can not, except perhaps that I write music. Vivid> PC you only still a young coder'a still our one. Megus> Yes, the rest are on Spectrum'ah real sit. Elf> That's good. Vivid> True, we Spectrum'y powerful. Now I have 1024 KB. Elf> What is this? Pentagon, Scorpion? Megus> Scorpion. Vivid> A Scorpion, memory is set to Pentagon'ovskomu standard, rom flashed back, and now RAM-DISK to 896 Kbytes. Just here DeMouy collect - just a RAM-DISK, you can use all the pages, ie, the assembler does not flogged and All this, just gather here this DeMouy ours, on the 128-meter, I would simply not physically smog. Yes I 256 KB is unlikely to be enough. Tigrr> Campiglio least half a day. Elf> Well, of course. Vivid> In the turbo it to 30 seconds. With RAMDISK'a. On the drive they were compiled for 4 minutes, probably. Well, because the large size of the source, there is 256 bytes, the buffer size for the cache. Elf> Here you now is X-Project. Tam general who now is, and who these people do anything? Vivid> Well, you know, the situation before there was any. We X-Project served as a starting point ... Megus> In short, I explain it. Previously Brain Wave, the name of the group, did not say absolutely nobody and nothing, and X-Project it's telling everyone and everything. Now, X-Project hardly spoke to anyone and anything, and Brain wave - the name says it all and everything. Elf> And you after all this time in music and in pc and exhibited at the Spectrum? What your opinion of current music stage? Megus> My opinion about the music in many demah that recent years party put up - there is practically write fairly monotonous music ... Elf> And you do not like such things tehnovye, huh? Megus> So much aggression, they're all the same! There are similar passages, one tone, plus a half tone negative tone of the floor, there, the standard used by such moves. I was just sick of it, frankly! I something else more interesting. Vivid> Yes. Here in this here, in our Deme, in the new, you have something of such ideas here ... Megus> In fact, sound track of our Deme is not so good. We would like. Vivid> Well, just you, first there was one style, and then you saw Pheel '-native images and ... Elf> And you Pheel painted? Megus> Yes. Vivid> Yes, Pheel drew three pictures. Elf> Cool! What did you think to take place? Vivid> Well, we have not seen the other works. Behold, I specifically did not look that Placebo write there. Megus> Yes, me too. I do not want to know the demo compo. Vivid> We sincerely hope that after all they dopishut. Because I know for myself, Now, how difficult DeMouy collect. In addition, on this here razdolbayskom Kae ... Elf> Why, there's generally a nightmare. So. Well Okay, I wish you success in your work ...
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