Scenergy #02 31 декабря 1999

Демосцена

Editorial - pens Raver'a entitled "Scenes."

SUBJECT CODE PART ONE - speccy edition


 And so, you have already decided for the second time
look in my editorial. Now he
new name, as well as my
editorial'a in Domination. I love to write
all these jokes, because
Once again, I can say what I think. AND
funny that because of this, many people I
hate, you just look at how to
truth (of course, my subjective, because
absolute truth there is only a
newspaper) react lamer. If zaebet,
I ask to switch to page # 15.



Session Start: Fri Aug 13 13:23:29 1999
 Yahooo, Raver!
<raver^pht> i've got pirated Miracle # 3
 Raver: = :-() gde wzyal?
<X-Raizor> Raver: i ne glyuchit?
<raver^pht> Blade: got from friends. it's fully working and
copied with TELEDISK. shitty protection you have
 Raver: Movet ty nam k next nomeru pokruche zashitu
podkinesh? ;) A woobshe - kak tebe vurnal
<raver^pht> Blade: sorry to disapoint you guys but imho m3
sucked
 Raver: i chasto ty takim piratstwom zanimaeshya?
 Raver: m3 sucked? da wash SNG ryadom ne lezhal ...
<X-Raizor> Tak.
<X-Raizor> I poshli
<X-Raizor> Razborki
<raver^pht> Blade: details - outfit's configuration options was
nice, but design was awful. and the contents of magazine itself
was a bit worse than Adventurer's. anyway, it was that kind of
zine
<relict> Blade: ty dumajesh na wonjuchih tekstah wy nozhete
konkurirowatj s SNG?
<raver^pht> Blade: bahahaha!
<relict> Blade: designa net!!!
<X-Raizor> PO moemu wy rebyata wse parite.
<raver^pht> Blade: good joke:) you are amateurs, while at least
half SNG staff are professionals
 Relict: a ty otkuda kopiyu wzyal? A?
<raver^pht> Blade: btw, you wanted to hear my opinion. i just
honestly told it
 Raver: Da uv u was w SNG dezigna mnogo, a tolku
malo ...
 Relict: a za wonjuchie teksty ty eshe otwetishx ...
<X-Raizor> Rebyata wy wse ne prawy.
<X-Raizor> Nafig branx to ustraiwatx.
<relict> Blad: wy takie lamery, chto dazhe zhurnal prodajete!!!
 Relict: lamery? a ty kto takoj? ty dumaesh wse na
sharoware dolvno hoditx?
<X-Raizor> Tak nuka STOP
<X-Raizor> STop iT
<X-Raizor> Ostanowitesx pozhalujsta!
<X-Raizor> Uwazhajte hotx nemnogo drug druga.
<raver^pht> Blade: magazine scene is magazine for free
<relict> Blad: ha ha ha!!! Wash zhurnal poetomu i takoj ne
interesnyj, chto wy ego delajete izza deneg, a ne iz-za
sceny!!!
<raver^pht> Blade: your texts are not interesting. bullshit for
waterheads
 Relict: oj durak, ty woobshe w kurse o takoj weshi
kak Miracle # 3_free 4 scene???
 Raver: au was w SNG chto interesnogo? drewnie
nowosti, da wsyakaya purga ...
<relict> Blad: da? A chto togda na menja naezhaesh: otkuda ja
kopiju wzjal?
 Blad: wot kstati free for scene 4to-to ne zametno;)
 Raver: wy dave delali ego hren znaet skolxko, a
bagow - nemeryano!
 Blad: sng ya s ftp ska4al;)
<relict> Blad: i durak ty sam, esli w 1999 gody esche na speccy
pishetje takie materjaly, kogda komp stal polnostju scenowyj!
 Relict: a ty w kurse chto takoe Mir3free4scene??? ty
ne mog wzyatx ego takim putem, t.k. obyazatelxno by so mnoj
swyazalsya!
*** X-Raizor changes topic to "War is SUXX!!! Wa are One Speccy
RuleZ 4ever!!! Scena must stay a life ... "
<X-Raizor> Nu budet uzhe ... Proshu was ... Mal'chiki ...
<raver^pht> X-raizor: then dont make commerce out of it
<relict> Blad: chto to nezametno, esli wezde krichat pokupajte
M # 3 ...
<X-Raizor> Raver ^ pht: a po russki mona?
<X-Raizor> Wy zhe w zanozu lezete ...
<TFOTGPEL> X-Raizor: tol'ko 'War SUXX' i 'Scene must stay alive'
;)
 Relict: tak wot snachala pochitaeshx tot tekstik a
potom woprosy budeshx zadawatx,
<raver^pht> Blade: starie veshi bili tam, nu i chto vam ne bilo
eto interesno? togda ne nazivajte sebja sceneram
 Relict: ty tak i ne otwetil kto ty takoj, wobshe?
<raver^pht> Blade: a to chto delali eto dolgo, ne oznachaet chto
VSYO vremja mi i delali. Drugie projekti, da i voobshe periodi
neaktivnosti bili
<relict> Blad: scener!!!
 Raver: a mne chto dolvny bytx interesny nowosti,
kotorye ya znal eshe god nazad???
<raver^pht> Blade: ti vsjo znal, chto bilo napisano v SNG? nu
dajosh
<X-Raizor> Dimon, oni tuta kosyachut ... ;)))
<relict> ravah: uzbrauc par to ka tu vispaar nevadiiji zinju
nodalju
 Raver: da ya woobshe, parenx ne predskazuemyj;)
<raver^pht> Relict: da pie dirsas
<raver^pht> Blade: nu i kruto. Tak sdelaj dlja menja surpiz,
sdelaij horoshij zhurnal i ja zatknus
 Relict: q uv ponql chto ne lamer (?), Chto konkretno
ty sdelal dlya sceny? Ya ot tebya nichego ne widel!!!
 Raver: my wot k next nomeru takuyu obolochku
sdelaem, chto wam stydno budet SNG pokazywatx ...
<X-Raizor> DImon: Dawaj ih ugomaniwatx ... oni zhe tut wes'
kanal porwut.
 X-Raizor: kstati mi tut wsej PartyZans reshili wse taki
delat 'zhurnal
<relict> Blade: to chto ty neznajesh menja nedokazywajet to chto
ja znaju o scene boljshe
<X-Raizor> Cool
 X-Raizor: Est 'predlozhenie - dlq lewih bazarow -
otdel'nij kanal im videlit '
 X-Raizor: Tak chto q dumau po stat'qm zhurnal budet
tochno rulez
<X-Raizor> Rebyata, ya ne ponimayu wy w krutosti sorewnuetesx 
... Image risuete. NU zachem ... zachem ... Kak wy ne pojmete 
chto wot ETO suxx Washa perepalka

<raver^pht> Blade: davai! no oblochka, eto voobshe vo mnogom ne
znachitelno
 Relict: nu i chto iz etogo? ty tipa zritelx?
<relict> Blad: huitelj
*** Blad \ 3umf sets mode: + b *! * @ Paul.cclu.lv
*** Relict was kicked by Yapko (Banned)
<raver^pht> WHAT THE FUCK
*** Blad \ 3umf was kicked by raver ^ pht (fuck off)
*** Blad \ 3umf (KV@fido.termeh.tu-chel.ac.ru) has joined # z80
*** Raver ^ pht sets mode: + b *! * @ Fido.termeh.tu-chel.ac.ru
*** Blad \ 3umf was kicked by raver ^ pht (raver ^ pht)
*** X-Raizor was kicked by Yapko (Banned)
*** XoBot sets mode:-b *! * @ Fido.termeh.tu-chel.ac.ru
 heheh
*** X-Raizor (KV@fido.termeh.tu-chel.ac.ru) has joined # z80
*** Blad \ 3umf (KV@fido.termeh.tu-chel.ac.ru) has joined # z80
<X-Raizor> A menya to zachto.
<X-Raizor> WOt tochno KOZLY!
<raver^pht> X-Raizor: ask Yapko
<X-Raizor> URODY! 1
<X-Raizor> TY PRIDUROK PONYAL.
*** Raver ^ pht sets mode:-b *! * @ Paul.cclu.lv
<TFOTGPEL> X-Raizor: hostmask pohozhii
<TFOTGPEV> Za to chto Yapko durak;)
<X-Raizor> YApko suxxx sranyj
 All: Koroche konchat 'pora etot ni komi ne nuzhnij bazar
<X-Raizor> Da.
<X-Raizor> Durni .. wot durni to wy ...
*** RelictPHT (relict@paul.cclu.lv) has joined # z80
<X-Raizor> Iz-za takih kak wy wojnu nachinayut ... i nezahaj
harod pizdyat.
 A wot i relict wernulsya: E
<raver^pht> scene wars is just a normal
<raver^pht> if you are not ass licker
<X-Raizor> No
<X-Raizor> Not normul
<raver^pht> however this time it's obvious that SNG is scene
magazine # 1 with no doubt
<relictPHT> Blad: nu chego banowatj nauchilsja? Nu ##@#@! ty
padnjalsja!!
<raver^pht> Relict: Blade naverno uzhe davno v inete? king!
<relictPHT> ravah: Yep! Mighty Hacker!! Ha ha ...
*** RelictPHT has quit IRC (Leaving)
 Raver: soglasitesx, chto SNG1 - nothing special!!!
 Relict: a ty woobshe-to perwyj nachal, tak chto
nefig ...
<raver^pht> Blade: SNG1 ochen special dlja speccy. Tak, v
obshem, tam mnogo lazh. Potomu chto speshka bila v poslednih
dnyah. No v obshem - neichego tak interesnogo na speccy esho ne
bilo!
 Raver: i eto twoe imho, kotoroe mne bezrazlichno,
t.k. ty awtor zhurnala!
<X-Raizor> Nafig eto nado.
<raver^pht> Blade: pro tvoj imho luche ne govorit. Vse ljudi,
kotorih na speccy scene ja uvazhaju, bili udoletvoreni SNG, i
otzivalis kak o chem to novom
<raver^pht> Blade: a takih, kotorie ne izvestno ot kuda
pojavilis, i govorit chto ih zhurnal (o pervih nomerah voobshe
umolchu) samij krutoj, mne naplevat '
<X-Raizor> Raver 'Relict: ya ne ponimayu ... nu on to
ponyatno ... kak awtoru emu obidno ... nu wy to chto 
podnukiwaete uzhe. mozhet hwatit. o wkusah ne sporyat .. wedx 
tak? ili wy special podzhuchiwaete?

 Raver: ya ne izwestno otkuda wzyalsya? da a ty
otkuda? wy tolkom nichego i ne relizili, krome parochki
wtorosortnyh intr!
<X-Raizor> Blade! ZEBAL! 1 (IZWINI LINA!)
<X-Raizor> Wse konchili
<X-Raizor> Nu please ...
<raver^pht> Relict is already off
<raver^pht> Blade: vidimo ti nichego o scene ne znajesh.
<raver^pht> i voobshe. SNG kazhetsa ne po vkusu parnam iz
derevni
<raver^pht>: D
<X-Raizor> POhozhe was ne uchili razgowariwatx oboih. , (((
 Raver: o scene ya kak raz mnogo znayu, kak widish i
w derewnyah takaya krutx kak SNG proletaet ...
<X-Raizor> Raver: ty derewnej wseh nas nazywaeshx? (Chelyabinsk)
<X-Raizor> LIho
<X-Raizor> Hm ...
* Flay ne shitaet slovo DEREVNJA oskorbleniem. Sam iz derevni
<raver^pht> Flay: koneshno:)
<raver^pht> X-raizor: ja ne na ezhaju iz za derevni, a hod
mishleniya kak u derevnih bab.
<X-Raizor> U kogo eto?
<raver^pht> Vi rebjata sluchaino ne smotrite telvidenie i ne
osuzhdaite, kakoj novij FAIRY horosh, w dva raza bolshe noskov
mozhno pomit '!
<X-Raizor> Raver: poshli w pryatki igratx ... ;)
<raver^pht> X-Raizor: ja vizhu, tebja dratsa ne nravitsa:)
<raver^pht> X-Raizor: no inogda nuzhno.
<X-Raizor> Eto tupo
<X-Raizor> Slowami pulyatx
<X-Raizor> Nichego ne wyjdet
<raver^pht> X-Raizor: mozhet i tak bit '. A mozhet vstretimsa na
party s etim Blade, mordi pobjom
 Raver: wobshem ranxshe u menya bylo o was wpolne
normalxnoe mnenie, teperx ve wy ego w korne izmenili! eto moe
poslednee slowo k tebe.
<X-Raizor>;)))
<X-Raizor> Pob'ete
<raver^pht> Blade: ye kool. Pokazhi svoju krutost 'narodu. Bud '
vishe menja i SNG v chartah: P
<X-Raizor> Wot ... Eto drugoj razgowor
<X-Raizor> W Amerike .. W zaholustnyh rajonah .. Gde negry 
zhiwut: malxchiki ne derutsya i prerekayutsya. a tancuyut ... 
Kto kogo ... a??? Kak wam?

 TRIUMPH vs PHANTASY
<raver^pht> Blade: chto takoe TRIUMPH?
<X-Raizor> Tak. Togda ya ne TRIUMPH.
 Raver: a chto takoe PHANTASY???
<X-Raizor> Wy luchshe by demkami pokidalisx swoimi drug w druga
<X-Raizor>;))
<raver^pht> Blade: ne znaju, ti zhe pisal ...
<X-Raizor> A naher wy ih waashe srawniwaete.
<X-Raizor> Oni zhe dlya piplow i ta i ta ... chtoby bolxshe
znali ... ;))) Gy gy gy
<X-Raizor> Tak wedx ...?
<raver^pht> X-raizor: da ja ne znaju. Menya sprosili, kak mne
Miracle3, zhdali chto ja nachnu ego hvalit ', a tut-to ja skazal
pravdu. I srazu Blade nachal srat 'na SNG. ETO NE PO DETSKI? Tak
ne sprashivaj mojo mnenie, esli ne gotov pravdu uslishat '!
 Raver: wse ravery (ravers nature) - glupye (c)
ironman;)
<raver^pht> Blade: a svoemu ironmanu voobshe skazhi, chto on ot
electronic music nichego ne ponimaet!
<X-Raizor> U.
<X-Raizor> Uzhe na Ironman'a naezzhaem ...
<TFOTGPEL> "SCENERGGY!" ;)
<raver^pht> X-Raizor: da, mne prosto stidno bilo chitat 'pro
tehno takoj bred. Horosho, chto na speccy scene nikto i tak o
tehno ne znaet:)
<X-Raizor> Raver: ne umno ... Ochenx bolxshomu kontengentu
nrawitsya dazhe ochenx ego muzyka ... MNogie schitayut ego na
rowne s elitoj ... a ty. wedx opyatx sub'ektiwno ...
<raver^pht> X-raizor: ved 'ja ne govorju o ego speccy muzike! Ya
dumal o ego statyah.
 Raver, a ty sam hotx nemnogo razbiraeshsya w em???
<raver^pht> Blade: ja slushaju etu muziku 8 let '
<raver^pht> Blade: i pishu o nei
 Raver: a pro Ironmana ty zrya - on wedx professional
<raver^pht> Blade: gde? na speccy?
<raver^pht> Blade: da ja ne slishal ego muziku, prosto stat'i
lozhnie. Tam fakti ne pravelnie. Skazhi emu eto
<raver^pht> okey
<raver^pht> looks like this channel calmed down a bit. So I will
quit now.
<raver^pht> BUT THE SCENE QUITTERS ARE SCUM!
<raver^pht> bye mates
 Well, how? Bunch of nonsense, though I cut out a lot
too much, yet so big that the log
remained. Interestingly, though! I think that
the reader and so it now appears that I
I think of Miracle, but let would get
kreknutuyu version and read myself.
 And about Ironman'a - his article I
have simply become tired, as in Psychoz, and in
Miracle. The kid had read debility Ptyuch "
and thinks that is very intelligent in cases
electronic music and techno in particular.
Showing off drug, he
raves about the history of electronics and styles, and
Article on Flash Info 19 does insanity.
Once in 1997, I interviewed Richie
Hawtin, yes, and I know some people from
label Plus 8, so I want to explain
you, Ironman, that Richie is now
concentrated on his new label
Minus, in which both reached the last releases
Plastikman'a, besides, he releases music
and how F.U.S.E., Robotman and Concept,
done as ambient with Pete Namlook, and
Minus, in general, not a sub-label
Plus 8, which is now more engaged
Clark Warner and Matthew Hawtin. This
Separate labels with different
concepts. And where did you get that Richie
hates the live sound? Talk like
die-hard metalist, who thinks that
electronic sound synthetic and therefore
shit - in my opinion, any sound that we
can hear - a natural and
equal! Very sorry for you, but you then,
what I call a "wannabe".

 On the magazines and newspapers in general - in the "Academy
of Scene Sciences ". This is also a new
column, where I will write about "scene
fiction ", that is about my studies
areas of the scene. And - funny thing about
Miracle - Blade told that we are two
Year Scenergy do, as well as in Miracle # 3
intro to joke that the Miracle here, a
SNG fucking. So, our first room was
After Miracle # 3, and second, you see, to
Miracle # 4! Who is the brake?


FEELIN 'SO PHAT

 Now about my party PHAT9. Results and
official press release "Party Zone",
also find there teskt of PHAT9
invitation to the c = 64, but here - some
Reflections on the "nafig us all these
small party ". Well, then. There is a
event, as Chaos Constructions, and
it very well. Because a party
held in St. Petersburg, and has assigned itself the status of
Enlight, it is clear - this is the biggest and
importance Spectrum party. And come and
involved here is to everyone who
considers himself an active scenery. Win
here - a prestigious thing, since so
many (?) participants, but still, not all
can come. Someone has a problem with
work, and there is no way so far
race, someone at that time there
money, and someone else could not do in life
demo.

 Regional, albeit small party,
sceners help to survive and develop,
acquainted with the nearest spektrumistami
and hang out. And if one party once
a year, and you're at it do not you get? Wait
year to meet your friends? And who does not
infuriates 100 + images and modules on a single
party? Is it not better, when they were only 10-20?
 Also, I think you can come to
some party, and set work
- If not the demo, the graphics and music
required. I, for one (despite the fact
that I was pretty far and is forced to
buy a visa), I would not go
only Chaos Constructions, but also,
For example, the Cafe. New city, new
people, why not try?


About PHAT.

 It's generally something else, because compo there
only a small part because I want to
offer. Read the official text
by invitation at c = 64 and from the homepage at
a category not far away. I think
that scene - it's something very interesting,
integrating people from very different
different parts of the world. PHAT And for those who
wants to go somewhere and take part in
adventure in which he was only
because it is part of what we call
scene. Despite the fact that the scene at
speccy not such a unique world
as c = 64, it is close to me and interesting. AND
yet, PHAT - a profitable party for the European
scenery, as they can come to Latvia
without needing a visa. By the way, and I feel better and
cheaper to go on Doxycon, than Chaos
Constructions.


PHAT9.

 Results here, all over. I do not want
write a report, and probably will not, but
Pictures can be found on Acid Nature (yet
No, but I think - coming soon). And, although all
abolished, party was not bad. People
There were about 20, but were selected
party and I can not count all those who
involved in this case. I only want to add
that those who say that listening to PHAT9
shit, can safely eat this very
subject! I think that the modules PHAT9
the best from all the party this year.
Although read something about PHAT9 in
news, and something about music too.


PHAT0.

Wait!



BOURGEOIS

 Since ex-USSR'ovskie sceners call those
who are from other countries. I thought so, and
realized that I now probably think
bourgeois, judging by the fact that Latvia will soon
enter the European Union, and move
Europe I can without any problems, while others
ex-USSR countries, I need a visa ... So
with them?

 Part - the original sceners that
survived the very beginning of the Spectrum
scene. Part - brand new, all of which
want to call lamer. And the best part
does not know Russian. The fact that I wrote in
Last time, the languages ​​I've heard a lot and
participated in the discussions. And somehow I'm somewhere
noticed the phrase: "the language of the scene has always been
Russian. "There's not much to say. So
what the heck are those who think this way, their
group name in English? Nafig
handles the English? Because of this fear
from the International Russian sceners not
can get into such scenes as the c = 64,
pc and amiga - they are simply boiled in their
Local get-together. Not everyone, of course,
such - I want to emphasize Looker House and
Extreme, as successful projects, LKR -
well-known international team, and XTM
showed a good start. Western sceners -
greatest patriots - they are few, they
can afford to buy a good
machine, ex-USSR to name-calling lamer,
TR-DOS and the Russian language it is not clear, but
Yet they are here! In my opinion, good
reason to respect them!

 And there is a "western scene." There SCENE
and is the local hangouts. At this time, everything.