Scenergy #02 31 декабря 1999

Интервью

VIP - Random interviews Unbel! Ever / Sage / XTM.

                 "Truth, tell me the truth"

                               or

          "I want to believe ... Seeing _is_ believing"

     unauthorized and uncensored interview with Unbel! ever,

        the greatest unbeliever of modern spectrum scene

 Probably many known position Unbel! Ever'a (ex-MMA)
relatively KH999, and Structural Chaos as a whole (if not,
read a newspaper Born Dead. A very good newspaper, even though 
sometimes sometimes anti-TseTse-shnaya). Everyone has a right 
to their point view. Problems start only when this very "own

point of view "is inspired not to understand in this matter to 
people. Me as one of the organizers of Structural Chaos

interested in the causes that led Mr. Unbel! ever'a to
such negative thoughts. Just I was wondering its true
opinion about the conduct of Structural Chaos (not wrapped in a
sarcasm newspaper articles). It is pursuing these goals, one
working late at night seeing him on IRC, in channel # z80, I
decided to talk with Max on the souls. As it turned out later, 
the log that conversation was recorded. And then, a few days 
ago, clearing the blockage in his, ~ Random directory, I 
stumbled on it. Having read this conversation I got the idea 
this is all documented history. Logue was presented in more or 
less divine form (written all translit, mingled English and 
Russian, other people's posts, there were pause and 
disconnected, overlapping one thought to another and the such 
abominations, that is to blame Internet Relay Chat). Frankly I 
hope that this material will help you form _svoe_ opinion on 
the positions of the organizers of the Structural Chaos and 
Maxim. 



 In the interview:

C: - Showa (aka Random / Concern Chaos).
M: - Maxim (aka Unbel! Ever (ex-MMA) / ex-Speed ​​Co).

CH - Construction Chaos
BD - Born Dead

@ =
C: Well, a couple of questions: What are suggestions for the
Structural Chaos 000? Just what exactly did not like KH999?

M: Honestly, I KH000 did not want to see: (

C: So, for what reasons? (It's good that honestly)

M: For a variety! In BD # 0C describe ...

From: Max, you'd better say here, why do people spoil
mood again? After all, already tarnished with KH999
situation, so why again do the same?

M: Only one fact: You can not (!) Leave for the night 180 people
locked in a school just because you wanted a love / beer!
He could be, for example, fire, and we would all have died 
there! Seriously! There was precedent in Samara, where for 20 
minutes stung mentovka. Killed 50 people! And they were all 
sober! 

From: Maxim, in the room were the other organizers, so that only
do not blame everything on it. Yes, I have been foolish, having 
made good work, allowing 70 children to stay overnight in the 
room but this is purely my zamorochki. I was not the only 
organizer so for me _vs _ is hanging in the least foolish.


M: You did the right thing most of all KH999! Left people
not in the street, where it was very cold and the room! Thank 
you! But the rest - you were wrong ...


C: As for the night on KH000 already there is talk (most likely
will be, but more strongly). And the rest is where? Please
listed, just for the future, me and everyone else it will be
helpful. And do not say "you", because I was not alone. If
you have some personal animosity toward me, it should not be 
transferred at the party.


M: Wait BD # 0C - everything and tell you! But for anyone KH999 
- failure! As the number of works, and composition of people!


From: Maxim, but do not you think that the number and 
composition of people does not depend on the organizers, but 
from people's reactions? In fact, one of these negative factors 
were the negative reviews people (among whom was you) about 
_predstoyaschem_ party. You like this next year?


M: I do not want to all the organizers of new political parties 
talking after their completion, "not bad for a first time!". In 
this case, us until 2010 to wait for a steep Party! And by this 
time you understand ...


C: Wait, wait. Tell me, where _my_
fault / otvetstvenenny for those problems that you _nam_
prescribe?

M: You did a good thing (KH999), but are you broke the scene, 
and Now, instead of 12-15 demos, we'll look at each of 2-3

Party! And would like to E97/96 FT98, see all this in the rulez
one place!

C: I split the scene? In the 999th year, no party has not
planned, organized as KH999. You are beautiful
you know, so what's my fault?

M: In your many believed, for them you become a good excuse,
Bulchukey said so - what to swell over the FT99, if
KH999!

C: And that's bad?

M: Your Wines that you have:)

From: Maxim, I'm talking seriously, if you want
inquire _lichnye_ relationship, then you are welcome at KH000 
arrange demonstration fight. Now I'm more important than the CH 
as a party, you do not like.


M: In Moscow, in late August, be it FT or something else could
would meet 3 times more men and 5 times more work! AND
it would be cool!

C: Peter, in late August 2000 will KH000, that's all. A
about the date we have long been decided. No one responded in 
time, hence the fault was not entirely our own.


M: Of course, that's all ... And again, a bunch of people broke 
some because of expensive ticket prices!


From: Expensive price? For you 50 rubles (5 beers), it is 
expensive? Moreover, the price of tickets for the KH000 is not 
yet defined, but more than $ 2 per ticket, it will not.


M: I spent KH999 1.500 rubles! I do not feel sorry for them! 
But here I know one thing - the money could take out 10 people 
in St. Petersburg of Kovrova - Eternity Industry! And so, on 
the CH came only 2 man and then, by PC (4k dazzle). The fact is 
that to see these 10 people to people a hundred times more 
interesting than you or me, or Arty! Partee then cool when 
there are a lot of people from different places!


From: Max, I'm on the CH has spent about $ 700 of their money 
(not counting Tickets to Peter), of which only $ 400 was 
returned. You I suggest buying tickets for people?


M: The Return? And what about $ 350 for the projector? In my 
opinion, the prices space - in Samara is cheaper to take a 
projector! 

C: You might think about the completion of "white" list, which
make outstanding scenery. (Btw, $ 250 for the projector:)

M: I suggest to you, if you're so cool and rich, if you so
interesting to the Party's cause - make a KH000 in Moscow!

C: I can not: (I have the whole team in St. Petersburg. And 
where is the steep and rich, this is _my_ do for _stseny_. Or 
you do not understand?


M: In that case, I advise you to relax! Seriously!



C: For what reason? And I repeat, I am not alone organize CH.

M: Give people normally hang out in the city where it is 
convenient, at a time when it suits them! Not to split the 
scene conducting KH000!


C: So, Maxim, explain? That is, Peter, in August 2000 - is
Nobody is convenient? And you say for the whole scene?

M: It's simple! This country needs one, but a good party -
Moscow, late August, most people at least cost,
nemerenoe works! Rulez! I speak for those whom you down
call pioneers! For a new and final stage in the formation ZX!

C: What about Moscow? Which August? You're talking about?

Moscow: Moscow and August - this I'll explain how to do
_pravilnoe_ Party!

S: Peter and August are mastday? While in this very Peter 
already 4 were held ruleznye party? I spoke with Alex

Ivanov at the FT, he said that he agreed to help us and
to KH000.

M: And where he was on KH999? Why not here? You see, even
one person could not get into your Peter!

From: Hehehehe, where he is he should be asking.

M: the Party failed! I have 3 days of booze (c) Random. Sorry, 
but this ruleza I do not!


From: Max, "the party could" and "I have 3 days of booze," they 
are different impressions. They are not related.


M: In short, Randy! In August this year will be in DIHALT99
Dzerzhinsk! The organizers - the pioneers, but I believe in 
them! Let's see together an archive of this party and see what 
works there will be larger than the CH!

From: Maxim, you do not believe in CH because of me, or some 
other Why? Just a shame that you spoil the life so many people,

Even though the harbor life should have been just me. So come 
on, seriously, Next year, the KH000 arrange a fight between you 
and me? A to This will not in general about each other to 
stutter? So you do not will respond negatively to the CH, which 
I am not alone satisfied, and I generally remain silent will, 
if people will ask about you. 

M: I never wanted anyone to spoil the life! For God's sake, 
pick up their friends, pick up PC, AMMY, music scene and 
tusuysya! But life and joy to others you're a little spoiled, 
having KH999. 

C: So do you want? Or whom? Once again, I'm telling you that 
speccy I will not leave the scene. This has already had 
conversations and I am adamant. And once again I ask you, do 
not hesitate to contact me, as the only organizer.


M: Excuse me, but KH999 I went just to see all the
eyes! 48 hours in the game I slept only 2 hours and saw
absolutely everything! I spent 1.500 rubles is to write
then this report! That nobody could puff my brains
telling stories about how the KH999 was cool or bad!
Now I have an opinion!

C: I respect your opinions, just do not say that
KH000 will not be sax, no need for him to go and so on. We
do not do it for themselves (yet again repeating Random)

M: All the other organizers for me does not count! I have them 
properly or by KH999, or generally to the parties have not seen 
/ not heard! 

From: Arty? Merlin? Hurtman? Monster? What are you doing? Or 
you them, too anyone know?


M: Artie, and saw a monster! Worked as a moose! Well done!

C: Well, but what's the problem? They're also the organizers.
Or ignoring them you too? Contradicts himself. If you're on
I do not care, at least for the rest of the organizers do
a good deal and not bother the scene live and grow.
M: I have no desire to argue with you! We're different! You
have one, to me - another! Why? I can not write because they do 
not can be formulated.


From: Max, let's simply state the fact that I would like to
see. Come on you do not sabotage the KH000, and we will arrange
as follows. And people will have a lot (not frighten), and work
good, and prizes, and so on. Well then, surely for the sake of
scenes and people you can not discard their hatred?

M: Nothing to sabotage will not! But the people in St. 
Petersburg was a lot of last only for E97! And never 
(NIKOGDA!!) Will not more than 150 people at the party! In this 
misfortune Peter, in this trouble scene!


From: Max, only time will tell, although people are more than 
150 people were and KH999:) Well we agree on?


M: Agree on what? Formulate again, please!

C: No problem. Come on you do not sabotage the development and
KH000 conduct for the scene. And then we try to
Party as the best possible? And anyway, imho, there is no need 
to fight us, for One is because it fighting.


M: Just report on the KH999 and the article on the topic that 
was good and bad for the party! And eschu - a call for all 
FT2000! That's all ... It's sabotage?


C: If everything is done correctly, then no, that is, if
say _all_ bad, then say _all_ good:) Well
calls - all at the FT2000, this is what you like as long as it 
does not was ohaivaniya KH000 or Chaos Constructions in general.


M: Of course! For example, I was ready to kiss you when
discovered that you can stay in school!

From: Just let each give an equal chance.

M: We like everything discussed and agreed! Both good and bad -
objectivity rulez!
@ =

Here at this log is cut off (more went to talk to another
topic, although related to the KH999 but with a different 
slant. Conversation about who and how to get home after 
construction of Chaos Nine hundred and ninety-nine).


On my own Let me just thank Maxim for
allotted time, which I hope has not been spent
wasted.

See you at = chaos.constructions.000: gear up =, in August
two thousandth, luck and success on stage and off!


                                                         01:05 
AM 

                                                     05/VIII/999

                                            Random / Concern 
Chaos 

                                           CCHQ / Sydney / 
Australia