Scenergy #02
31 декабря 1999 |
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Illegal Corner - Razzlers justified for the release of the demo First Association.
Author's vocabulary and spelling retained. -. La'll be! or something about the FA. - As many probably guessed, now go about dismantling the article in BornDead # 0D, which severely Unbeliever poured Razzler'ov whole tub of shit ... Strictly speaking, this is it for nothing ... Okay, we will deal later, the benefit us a lot of things I want to say about Samara FU, so to speak, their release is far DO NOT fountain, how they paint. For those who still do not know, immediately explain what was going on. But the fact that appeared two releases of the same demos First Association, one - Novgorod, performed by a group of Razzlers, and another - Samara made Speed Code / XTM / Sage / SOK (underline). And everything is nothing, but that's something the rest does Unbeliever'y our release. Maybe Toad's Eating? ;) Hereinafter, if said "our release," it means release from Razzlers. FA, FS, etc. - Is Short of First Association. I hope everything will be clear. Preferably after reading to practical (Laboratory) classes in view of both releases and, having made a report, choose a suitable option. To begin with, that "theirs" version of graphs At the time of "his" we have not seen by the way, sorry, but that would take into account their miscalculations and made their release even better. Well, it does not matter. To begin the story "Our" graphs. It all started with that Cryss to view the graphs are not in the emulsion, and the real Speccy, dragged all the parts on TRDos-drives. Later came proposal to release not only for themselves but also for the people. On such actions in Samara, we did not know ... As time went on ... Part sly repackages and FIX'ilis until just under the Scorpio. I must say that we initially did not hurry to work, but After suggestions from Arty / DR on inclusion of graphs in the annex to Scenergy # 1 which was soon to appear, work went much faster. It was then took shape and overall style of the release, pondered manager and intro, was carried out FIX under the Pentagon and Composit. Wanted upihat all on two discs. After full repackage it became clear that though burst, two standard disk FA will not fit. Born the idea of three discs ... Through some time swept aside as unnecessary and uninteresting. Thought out psychodelic-manager for the 48x parts. He adopted. After some time, the 48th CD compiled and work begins on the 128M. In the midst of the work we learn about conducting the same work in Samara. Stop it was too late, and we yet completed the 128y drive non-standard format that everyone got throat. And there already and output Scenergy # 1 with "our" FA in the appendix. After posting all yuyukov in echo ZX.SPECTRUM start screaming: "How is it See?. Especially is washed idiotic statement: "Once it is in. TD0 - only means for emulators! ". Are you never Teledisk'a not seen? Bummer is, that we have in Novgorod started having problems with FIDO, which continue to this day. Duc Now, because of this I could not write to the echo and just sat there, read it in Online and mother ... After some time found intelligent people who all all explained that for them, and thank you. SS'999 time approached. Retell the report I will not tell only a few moments. At night, after the first day I was caught somewhere Arty / DR and reported that behind the scenes on the stage is conversation about our release graphs. Taking his discs, after a while I came over scenes. There are people copied each friend everything that can be rewritten. I yelled that he had brought the 3rd and 4th disk of Scenergy # 1 and what was our FA. And, incidentally, sorry, that before the MMA has not seen our release, but we have not seen their version. Probably ensued would be an interesting argument, but it was expressed some lingering observation that how bad do non-standard format. Type in Scorpio with screws pebble converged ... And that can no longer drive and a drive to shove, all necessary to screw? In my opinion, you can be patient and then two disc. So it all was and how it all left before the release of BD # 0D, where we found these lines: ... Although we proceed so I now I will take some statements from that article and a little of their comment. This will help me Cryss, which, strictly speaking, tinkered with this unfortunate demoy. Ok? Well, then went to disassemble it Unbeliever'a: <<... In the detailed consideration of "Nenashev" version of the FA, like me, and came MAXSOFT simply in panic. How? How can was so zasrat ...>> etc. AS> What are you there so scared? And what we're there, let me ask how do you say "zasrat? No, I do not I say that our release is just perfect, but it also did not horse-radish name. After all the work was done a fairly large and therefore hear such baseless and not evidence-based statements Several hurt. Further, there are lines like: <<... Sitting in a sweat, trying to do really high-quality, full and closest to the original release ...>> AS> About the closeness to the original let keep quiet. Least because original it is. TAP'e rather than TR-Dos'nyh disks, and do not pack it Hrust'om, and there is no manager, and only especially the intro. By the way, on your intro also has a few words, but this later. <<... And here come the pioneers and arch fingers under the angles of these ...>> AS> For the "pioneers" of course, thanks, but where we have toes arches? Yes, and under some angles. Confusing ... More An interesting phrase: <<... Better to put people in place immediately, that did not arise in the future such Conflict ...>> AS> Mother! Where we have a conflict situation? We are in any conflict is not climb, because we are pacifists, but only half ... :) And here we are still on a place to put together, like we somewhere climbed. Such a phrase is with some sort should be presented, such as "we are the most steep and, as a major principle regulator Spectrum scene Razzler'ov put in place. "and once a child, "but I, like, in Dad's pants ...". Be careful with such phrases ... But I have to According to cling to. Further, already wrote Maxsoft: <<... At what can the pioneers? Two disc. Cool! But a drive is formatted outside the box. Suxx. If the right on this disk was copyist, but it is not ...>>> AS> Pioneers are capable of much, then, they and pioneers. And that's what you so non-standard format does not suit you? Without exception all of you with the screws on the real Speccy or what? In the emulator. FDI is not connect? Of course, this all causes some inconveniences, but in my opinion, It's worth it. A copyist is in annex to Scenergy # 1, but can we follow your example and make fixpack, who cram and copier to disk, only here it is troublesome ... <<... Intro. Some of it very much Good, but how these alterations Amiga Danish Wheels by Melon Design tired ...>> AS> Well, and then not please! What do we annoy you so? And what about the fact that you are sick of the intro, but where else Dyk such as the intro is that they have so get it? And that's what I want to say What about your intro. No doubt, it is steep (and even 48k), I congratulate Monster'a. BUT! This is not cracktro!!! It would be better released it somewhere separately, and so she's there anyway sewn, or fasten. And what about our intro, so it's inspiration from the pisishnogo cracktro by Hetero/Razor1911, but now she zakos by Melon Design'ovskoe. Such is the history. You might think that a little effects passed on to other Speccy platforms, and you absolutely have to this latch ... <<... Pentagon somehow askew made - Full-screen multicolor mows ...>>> AS> On the emulator look? Your multicolor too far from the line, and in some places it generally not noticed. And, incidentally, that most part of the Speccy Boyz, where Multicolor many pictures at all not gone to the Pentagon. And where she went, Duc steadily slows down at the moment clear the screen. <<... Does not change the part, the which is seen as the regenerated Screen ...>> Cr> I somehow do not know whether you will give us advise further alienate our release from the original, whether it yourself deal done. <<... Selection of parts FA do enough original, but the sounds at the same time - I advise to listen to after last night: * ( To kill the authors you want ...>> Cr> What you do not like psychedelic sounds in the 48th manager? Or on There is more to criticize something nothing. Maybe you both like is the manager that you can not break away from him and watch taschites from spinning gear, cursing at was worth the howling of the envelope? Frankly, I doubt. Well, that your manager to get the desired part to be a sniper. <<... Parts ordered by the authors. But if you want to watch someone else epilogue, then wait for all the other parts very uncomfortable ...>> Cr> And here is something you are mistaken. The point that you can try during the Download the 48th to hold the parts or button 'S' button or 'M'. The result of their actions will not take a long wait. If you do not yet understood, then we explain: 'S'kip-pass part, 'M'anager-out in the manager. <<... Can not be inserted in the two drives both disc at once or even want ...>> AS> Why?? Both discs are absolutely independent. Wanted to see 128e part - insert a disc, wanted 48e - Another. When you load in the beginning in large letters (more figures) specify which disc is loaded. All simple and clear. In general, it is possible and insert, suffer from it will not, however, it is better - too ... <<... Playlist as such there is no ...>> AS> Here's what not, that do not. Like of course, but we later changed their minds. All well, more than once to watch FU hardly anyone would be, and just "so that was "to do extra work not wanted. However, your release is also not burdened by the presence playlist. <<... Intro, where proudly listed razzlersy not skipaetsya ...>> AS> ... because at the end of the intro you invited to choose FIX and type loader 48go to drive. <<... Just watch the entire demo from scratch, from beginning to end, it is impossible ...>> Cr> ... but if you will choose the regime view demos so to speak NON-STOP'om, it has fallen out of her back to the manager somehow did not obtained: (And on top of that, selection of such a very long keys as space, this is very doubtful function in our opinion very unwise. <<... After parts (while loading) show different pictures. They "Manifest" rotator, which in the original was not. Good course rotator, but only here in the original Pictures of certain authors show after their parts. In Razzlerov pictures are shown as they please ...>> AS> randomly selected only Pictures with cassette and diskette the rest are left to their places. In Your release also has some "Liberty", for example, with what you have Part of LaserSoft and Busy'Noro (Called Toxy) merged into one item? Because both are small? So all to be honest with us. A rotator there pretty good looks, and then just boring pictures view on startup. <<... Feel a lack of competent organizer and beta testers ...>> AS> Gy! ;) Cr> People, have you never looked at his release from? Never run it on a real Spectrum with one drive? I, of course, understand how convenient to connect the emulsion three disks, and so to say, "not clicking gate drive "immediately have access to all the Deme. But when you offered after every 48th part of the back to load from disk to memory manager, instead of by saving it in any of 128 pages of them, then simply throw much needed then, take my word for it strongly lacking. I'm not talking about that are not is checking on what comp deme loaded (meaning 48/128), and if you started in the 48th mode (which must be do to still look at this notorious 48k epilogue), you will long wonder why this is loaded and the 128th part. The truth here For some reason they do not want to work, and instead, hang. Why would it? A What is warped to unrecognizable 'UNBELIVEBALS' instead 'UNBELIEVABLES'! Surely Unbeliveber, or may still be Unbeliever so bad fumbles in English. A then you are talking about our lack of "literate" organizer and beta testers. <<... In part from the Speccy Boys, for example, a multicolor, which is difficult _ochen_ wait. When you press the same button part skipaetsya completely. Could skipat part of it to pieces. In the same part was borderny effect, which was run only on Didaktik Gama 48 - it all thrown out. Either not found or did not understand how it should work ... As at least under the "Scorpio is fixed without any problems, as a maximum - sm.samarskoe FA! ...>> AS> I somehow do not understand this expression ... Cr> We do not claim that our release perfect and not without flaws. <<... Also release no: firm "System test", "48kb epilogue", the picture "Change disk "...>> Cr> Perhaps we are a little heated, throwing system test, considering it an explicit attachment to all sorts of two A and other proprietary company for the unusual TR-DOS release, the more so because his entire are reduced to describing the alteration Boot FA for different systems. Well where do you think we should picture (if you can call it that) "Change disk" to sew? After all, drives a We are completely independent. <<... A 48k part moved into the ranks 128th ...>> AS> And by its name hard to guess it is an epilogue to one of the 128h parts? Namely to Mentasm. Therefore, she goes after him and everything is clear. And what are you, offer to look part, then change the drive and watch epilogue to her? No, thank you! <<... C such "thinning" can be to all and a two-disc standard fit ...>> AS> It is impossible! <<... Razzler'ovskie coders have tried to fame and managed more than 8 times "Speed up" the generation of chess donut ...>> AS> C'mon really pin up, painfully, he bored. You're also accelerated, which incidentally is not in favor of the question of According to the original, as was stated above. Cr> Besides, there was only one coder, and he is do all the work for repacking, writing the intro and the two managers, one wrote all the downloaders and collected the whole thing into a pile. (Credits to watch at least sometimes be, not to write in the BD, that the demo version of WORMS in the annex to Scenergy # 1 of Razzlers). <<... In part K3L still there "Full" IM2 loader, but it is buggy in a black ...>> Cr> But there, in at least the music is not howls, and quite simply off if the next part is not time to boot. <<... Pictures out there on the "square" is not optimized ...>> AS> It was not necessary ... And here is the epilogue to all states: <<... If you want to have in their collection of disk version FA megademo, that's cool does not match original ...>> AS> Pro to the original we are silent, remember? <<... Fixed a crooked ...>> AS> If you look on the emulator, you can be, but we all had fixed a exactly. So the question to your company, only do not regard this as another call to alter iron by software. <<... On disks with non-standard format (Owners of the screws are gone abyss )...>> AS> Owners of the screws you just remember it - live with real diskovertom. Cr> So why did you do multtikolorny fix only under Pentagon, and about the same Scorpion, with screw that, forget? <<... And without any explanatory Text ...>> AS> What is there to explain something? Here to explain something and non-Th-th! I must say that your explanatory text has a small "Artistic value". True, that you have a cool, Duc is that in Included is "First Association Preview ", it does not have happened if all desire. Cr> Actually, FA is an application to SCENERGY, and all you have to call it, the explanation is just there somewhere and written. Did you write that < ... Scenergy does not count ... >>. <<... Then First Assotiation Megademo released by Razzlers - this is for you !...>> AS> I also can say something like: Do you really want instead of the version Razzlers, have in their collection Samara version of the graphs, which has no normal fixation, and one that is executed on an emulator, which parts are not organized into groups, where no fixes old bugs and added New? Do you want to earn hernia, moving the drives? Of course, if you have not three drives. And in general, for more convincing, I give so say the "script" view of the graphs, to sow discord (Probably in a bourgeois concept and a) ... ;) So as we look Samara FU for forest of honesty, in one drive: - Insert the disk into the drive. Here we have say that Samara FA starts with only one specific disk and who is invited to mark as the # 2, others, therefore, # 0 and # 1. So Now, very likely is the fact that you do not the first time insert the correct disk and crafty fun to tell the loader: insert disk # 2. - If you do not screw with the Scorpion and autostart TRDos'a, then write the same LOAD (or who are most familiar - RUN, POKE) and Loading ... No! Did not the FA, but only simple boot, already a hundred times seen, and just out of it we run the FU. - Watch the intro. Okay, I am silent. ;) - Get into the manager. Well, let's say, for you first start you and see the intro entirely, and read the whole text, but then ... Here here and recall the words of that our intra skipaetsya not (in general, Of course, skipaetsya, but not immediately, but completion of the text output). And here it is time is more than compensated since we do not have to go five kilometers on the text to the nearest part of the name. So, something I distracted, continue: - We see the names of parts. You going to run something, but the cursor does not want to get right the first time exactly where you want. - But here's battle with the cursor over, and you deservedly hope to see some part, but nifiga, you will be asked to insert another disc. - Part of the load, start, looks, ends (or pressed space) and you will again change disk in the drive - to load manager, and even if Have you looked 48yu part. - And so on, until torpor or torn from the permutation discs abdomen. Although a true spektrumist nadorvet stomach from prestanovki drives? ;) And here is how the view Release from Razzlers: - Insert the disk into the drive. Run. If you do not know, or you have not marked drives at once to notice that we will ship - screen large numbers show disk with some parts (48/128) in drive. Moreover, you will learn and then, which mode you are booting (I mean 48/128). - Watch the intro, after pressing the space answer to a question about FIX'e and, if 48go disc loader of the type of normal / turbo. - Get into the manager. - Choose the parts, which group we wanted to would look. Do not worry, by name you will be taken soon. - Looks the part. Do not like it - at podgruzku next block hold 'm' and return to the manager, who, incidentally, in the case of 48go disk will not be loaded, but simply transferred from the upper memory. And on a 128M disk Podgruzka it for you does not present inconveniences - for wheels not necessary to change. - Etc. In general, the look yourself and choose what that you prefer. Although, I think Many have already made our choice, and if he correct, they have freed up extra three disc. <<... If the text of obscene words No, my oral remarks written is not true ...>> AS> Similarly ... And finally, we list glitches, observed by us in Samara release that were not specified above: 1. As part of the Delirium Musical Disaster present corporate glitch with the cursor not fixed a while, perhaps, has been reviewed for proximity to the original;) 2. For some reason on my comp of Illusion part yield is much earlier than needed. 3. After some parts to the left of insert disk # n square with an attribute pixel meat. 4. Part of Unbelievables Animation with fuck'om somehow twitches and does not appear all its phases. 5. For some reason does not always correctly determined by the disk from which to to boot. In particular, if select from the following parts: Delirium, Busy'Noro or 128 Epilogue, then incorrectly selected drive you ensures complete freeze ... 6. In addition to "Unbelivebals" wrong contains the following names: "Shiva", "Nighty Crew", "Outtro". It is possible that we have something and overlooked. Of course, in this release too You can find bugs (and they are there), but at At least, not as unforgivable. Everything! Here I want to finish as sure you're tired of reading all the text. Maybe you ask: "What is the clarification of personal relationships in pages stsenovogo respected magazine? ". I will answer you this: now that this thing Unbeliever started, we will not keep silent, because Such materials several denigrate our proud name. :) So if you was disgusted to read, then, as the saying goes, "Zvinyayte, gentlemen." And yet, y we have now There are some problems with the electronic mail, and write longhand few people want, so let's communicate through Scenergy. Legend: AS> - Andy Simon / RZL Cr> - Cryss / RZL <<... ...>> - Quote from BornDead # 0D with preserved style and orthography. (C) Razzlers'99
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