---------- Track: By: lamer m :) ---------- Macros vs Cannibal Continuing discussions on the topic "computer vs life" in correspondence. August, 2002. . . . Cannibal> You really stand for it an empty ideal - I’m not saying that everything without exception sit at their computers, I have in view of the fact that we are the overwhelming majority, without denying the existence of normal people and as if once again reminding that we we live wrong, ruining our lives for computer. Macros> Wait! but in what sense do we Are we ruining her? isn't this our personal choice? You don't want to say that our sexual instinct disappears, that we not capablereproduce, etc.? Why You only have two options: 1 - “sit at the computer and die” and 2 - “quit the computer and live happily”? Cannibal> No, of course not. That's the point that there are instincts, but the Spectrum gets in the way we need to implement them. Let me make a reservation in advance: By "we" I mean people susceptible to computer addiction. We are capable of reproducing, but computer fanaticism seems to be slowing down this process, because of this, skills are lost communication with the opposite sex. One in a word, we run wild over a long period computer binge. Macros> There are a lot of positive aspects, although I would not somehow separate us from other people with claims on our "damage". first of all, among There are no spektrumists and there are a lot of them good people. Further, not a single genus has yet became extinct due to the fact that in some generation the man suddenly sat down at the computer. Rather, he will die from poisoning by surrogates alcohol, from an overdose or simply in Gopnik fight. Cannibal> I didn't say that we are bad. But there is still disadvantage, and above all it is relevant to ourselves. Computer how the infection attracts to itself and absorbssucks in. People who can't regulate by computer vs life factor, exactly what I am describing. I'm like that myself and not just one - there are many of us. This problem I I'm trying to decide for myself, for all of us... Macros> Ooops! Wait a minute... Give me think... ah.. however, continue.. and I I'll think about it for now.. Cannibal> Now about the gopniks. Do you know why they are not on stage? Because Gopnik doesn't respect "suckers" sitting at the computer all day long. Macros> (thinking to himself) hmm.. maybe it's because he can't choose for himself something for yourself? Cannibal> He's more excited for days gossip all day long on a bench, smoke "grass", fuck women and beat their faces on discos. Macros> (continuing to think) maybe this - there is a great meaning to life that is inaccessible me at this stage of development?.. Cannibal> Ie. there is a difference in IQ and image life. Gopnik will not become a stage director, because how he has different moral values. Macros> You three timesdamn right! And It’s not so easy to give them up! Them more when someone calls it do. From a person's point of view, he the lifestyle seems right. Macros> Next... Perhaps you think some kind of “duty” or “obligation” go and fuck someone every day (sorry for being blunt)? And if someone does doesn’t do it, does that mean his personality is flawed? Hmm, why, I wonder? Why mine thoughts must be possessed by primitive Gopnik instincts, and who wrote these "rules" to live by, and you will you be “correct”? Okay, come on - that's it stagers will start walking around and having women, and all their thoughts will only be about this. Among their “victims” will be yours friend, your sister, your neighbor... Then they get pregnant. It's clear, neither one person does not recognize paternity, aggression, decomposition will begin, degradation. the world will become dark and black. Hm. Cannibal> Yes, I’m not calling for intercourse with everything that moves! Am I so I say? The point is just diametrically the opposite problem: the point is that many people feel like this schedule: study (work), computer, eating, computer, toilet, computer, sleep... That isI want to say that a person is almost everything free spends time on the computer and nothing there would be no harm in this, if this “schedule” had not been included in daily schedule of the "test subject" (let's call this a person, susceptible to computer addiction). I want to say that from classes or work the subject runs to turn it on quickly computer while eating on the go. He has no time for physical satisfaction needs of a young body, but the body is not asks, it demands flesh! A long-term abstinence can lead to mental disorders: nervousness and even psychosis. Macros> Then human society should die... Theoretically. And on practice?.. Cannibal> I am for at least a scener occasionally returned to real life, not was a hindrance in communicating with girls and at least sometimes I satisfied my bodily needs (masturbation does not count ;). This is what I advocate for. Macros> You say everything correctly, but show me _at least one_ person, whom you described as a "stager"? Personally I declare: there are none! And not a single one Spectrumistasexual instinct is not dulled. Freud was a smart guy, that's all got it right. Life supports it is precisely this instinct. It seems to me that the meaning of life is live. And what someone dictates is... Why does he do this, why does he we need to dance to his tune. Although, everything is simple here. need 2 people formed a pair and gave birth child. For what? so that he also formed a couple, and also continued the family line. Each unit provides two benefits: it multiplies and does useful work. This is it mass, herd. you say that the herd - these are gopniks, you don’t like it either, when you are being controlled. Then why are you you think it’s “right” to live according to these laws? Cannibal> Who dictates what the rules are, may I ask? What are you even talking about!? Macros> Well... You say that it would be better if we didn't spend all your time, but so that they remember, and felt that there was also real life. For what? 1.You can get pleasure while sitting at computer, skydiving, eating ice cream, drinking vodka with Belarusians... And we combine it, alternate it. And it would be it's wrong to think that wedeliberately (or unconsciously) we deprive ourselves of something. 2. Why? a1)For what? a) not yet sad examples. b) That's right! b1) impose some rules of life, dogma. These are Christians who are experts in this. If If you need a plan “how to live” - contact them. I can think through my own life, or at least live the way you live, being not beingconstrained by any dogmas. Macros> I am also for people to live the way he wants! After all, you didn’t become a gopnik - this is cool! And here I sat down at Speck - ah after all, it’s also nice! Otherwise, how would I met such a cool dude how are you? And not only you... With everyone! Not it would be msf'a. And if you hadn’t come on Spec - there would be no continuation heresy. If Cyberpunks hadn't come to Spec? Everything would be completely different. Life... - it doesn’t pass by. And it doesn't matter what you do - you sit at computer, play days and nights on pipe (you rehearse before playing through a week in the orchestra), you ride motorcycle through a sand quarry, you cross-stitch... you frame women... - all this is right, and all this is yours choice. You don’t infringe on yourself in any way, and you don’t limit anything. You are happy, you do what you want I like it. And not only that, but also this, and this, and even this (wow, and how about you does it work? will you teach? :) Therefore - life, guys! The main thing is LIFE!Incorrect. After all, the policies of all states is aimed precisely at making you become cell. so that you create a new cell, and she, in turn, is another one. Otherwise - who will work? Who will be new a slave? And _everything_ is done so that a1 and b1 replace each other and b1 dominated. This needs to be seen, but this is a topic for another conversation. Cannibal> Wait, but I’m just I say that you need to LIVE. You need to live like this exactly how you like it. Like sit at the computer all the time? OK. Live like this. But then you're unlikely to start family, you will multiply, etc... I I advocate a skillful combination of life and computer without even trying
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