Adventurer #10 30 сентября 1999

Интервью

SS'99 - Interview: Wlodeck Black (organizer Funtop'98) and MMA.

               WLODEK BLACK


      (Editor's note. - Here WB - Wlodek
Black, ie Vladimir Bulchukey)


     CPU: A few words about the future, as
do you think will happen next year
FUNTOP?


     WB: Well, it probably depends on the outcome of this 
festival and the desire of the organizers to hold their 
festival in the year 2000 ... 


     CPU: No, well, as you know, in my opinion,
the biggest problem this year was
In my opinion, the electricity, but the desire, then
you had ...


     WB: Yes, the desire was to respect
electricity is already one warning from the
Mosenergo, we found that from 29 th June
shut off, but not yet cut off, we left it was still ...


     M. M. A.: Vladimir, you know,
that the question that you can decide
it's overcoming of the Force Majeure
was generally unique, for you it is very
a big victory, that is, in any form
right now you're ready for everything to flooding, flood, 
light, it is your experience can help people, ie those who 
spent ENLIGHT here in St. Petersburg, were not ready for this,

They had the room ready in advance, were
some options, and even here in the moment, you've been myself 
for ENLIGHT 'e 97, when the light is turned off, because the 
organizers were in shock themselves, they could not expect 
this, they worked very long, there about 40 minutes there was 
no light, you do ready for anything. Center of the country - 
Moscow Only you can hold a real party,

where the overwhelming number of spektrumistov come from all 
over the country, because Interestingly, when people from all 
over country come, it is you need it

do what you do will prevent it
The year 2000? Although, my opinion is that next year it will 
be no use to anyone, but Still, you prevent it?

Not just in your school, elsewhere
Moscow, but was in Moscow. In Moscow
travel easier for all.


     WB: So, well, I do not think that in 2000,
year it will be no use to anyone, I think correctly said that
Spectrum - a computer of the 21 st century. Here,
with regard to extreme situations, then
In truth, we were not ready for it ...


     M. M. A.: But how out of it twisted ...


     WB: It was, it was a blast, it was
Impromptu, which is simply a success ...


     M. M. A.: But now you're ready,
That is the importance, ie, you are not ready
surrender before any before tax
Inspection, which may come, though
I do not know why she can come to
school, before switching off water, gas, light, you are ready 
for anything absolutely, and only your tremendous experience, 
not someone who lives somewhere in Australia, I am right now, 
it I see, I want to talk with him personally, as a person 
living in a real country, who saw a lot, experienced a much 
older than the main contingent, present

to the party, it is you have to do it, and
in your hands, almost all future
This process is unique.


     WB: Thank you, of course, for such flattering words for 
such a high level of confidence, but I would like all the same, 
here, now, at this moment, just wait and see what

will end here this festival.


     M. M. A.: I'm happy, but my preliminary forecast that the 
most interesting Nomination demo compo will be presented

very weak, one - two works that
very sorry, because the date only the end of August, the only 
place one for the whole country, we have a mentality of 
Russian, we are not ready, as is done in burzhuinii when there 
for 2-4 months are such festivals. We are ready to go 1 time 
year, but we are there to provide such maximum that is 
possible, in general, for throughout our country, and then a 
whole year to drag on what we are there presented. AND Once you 
have a real opportunity, otherwise will be the division that 
Now there is full throughout country, when organized around 10

such activities in different parts of our
homeland.


     WB: But I still does not give
some definite answers, I'm your
some predictions about here or there we shall
something else, some other nominations
CHAOS CONSTRUCTION'99 not expressing I
Here he came - that's my prediction, I
like to express their attitude ...


     M. M. A.: Naturally, I want to say here. Came a lot of 
people who this is not attended is not on ENLIGHT 'e

not FUNTOP 'e, who do not know what
can happen, what to expect at all, ie, that they will not spend 
the night somewhere at home and at the station, so these people 
come here they are, they believed that they simply decided to 
participate for the first time. And in many respects at the 
expense of these people we have right now is gathering that we 
have, but I repeat, if This was proven location - Moscow

came to 10 times more, so if right now
make a list of those who could not attend, it will be much more 
than those who right now there is. But if all these people

gathered in one place - it would be
the best ever. I continue to insist, regardless of the results 
of that we have right now, here we shall see, to try to 
personally you understand that you all believe, totally

everyone we interviewed right now is not, then
that in the year 2000 it is you need it
do, can not even in the summer, why, let us come in winter, in 
February, if our the world will not touch the roof of the 
problems The year 2000, let's come winter, if

we will survive, and in fact is not necessarily a 91-second
Moscow school, because in Moscow million
premises, so I can only say that
I'm 21, but I know so many
people in Samara in different areas, I can
to say, I just can not mount
film on television, in the rest I can
everything. You also much more experienced team
yourselves, Alex also experienced person, printing, anything 
you can find any room, any size, and can make it real, because 
you there is a big responsibility, good

you are not over 20 years, that is the most
interest in what our trust in you.


     WB: Well, we have not talked in fact,
that FUNTOP 'a 2000 will not, can he
will be, but still really, as they say, and suddenly everything 
is so cool that FUNTOP next day and no one will remember.



     M. M. A.: Nothing of the sort, in any
If you fellows have done in the past
year, you would have been even better if it had continued to 
organize the party, because, The fact that right now there is a 
process the following: people who choose edinyzhdy something

organize, organize it, well, let's say, for a total snot 
conduct, try not to disgrace the time of passage, but then just 
give up. This approach we do not need anyone. Every time

re someone to trust, especially in such a
situations where the unknown, who generally
we trust, but we have this person in my life
not seen, even Eugene Buder, who
experienced local spektrumist, and then forgot
what do you think the person Random 'a, must
still go where you know that
at least you do not send back to the station
with a return ticket, so imagine anything
provide. And you, you, you just have to
to do it.


     CPU: FUNTOP - it was good, and we
sure ...


     WB: I want to, in connection with the issue of
another room briefly to dispel one
that is a myth. Many people think that Moscow
generally wealthy city, it is not in general, it
on average, a wealthy city, and here we are, spektrumisty, we 
are not rich and get out with the new premises as it is managed 
to BYTEFALL 'e, where people are, I I do not know, but the mind 
can see that they have funding for 2 poradka above ... 


     M. M. A.: Of course, another scene,
they have different amounts of money, no doubt ...


     WB: And we thought about it, but so far
We do not have the financial capacity to provide guaranteed 
placement in any case ... 


     M. M. A.: Again, from your answer
the question is, if you say that
Moscow is generally not a very rich city,
means premises need money, and the minimum money you can 
provide them, may 5000, and any school, located on the 
outskirts, somewhere in Mitino or on some south-west, it is not 
hurt, and we can agree, given the our common culture, which we 
have worked on FUNTOP 'e, where, for example, there was no such 
lawlessness as ENLIGHT 'e, you can quite believe us, we - you 
and another place you can find, but it

indisputable.


     WB: It's really no doubt,
No one raises the question of mistrust, such as
that, they say, we will spend the money, and
No one, so to speak, does not want to pay, no such question 
should not be, well I can tell, we'll try to ventilate the 
issue and deal with this ... 


     M. M. A.: It is to do, why not
came bulk, because until
Many just never got the message, which
go, and go nowhere, these people
do not want to ...


     CPU: For example, we have in Rybinsk
have access to the INTERNET, and we got
message on the venue at the last
moment, the day before departure ...


     M. M. A.: Two days before departure, I
home call people from Arzamas, and said: "We're going on your 
train, but you must tell us where to go, because we do not know 
where to go. "And millions have stayed at home ... 


     CPU: Yes, the advertising campaign on zero
was simple, if not INTERNET, generally
would be no one knew anything, there was no
information where, when?


     M. M. A.: On the contrary, this number can be
not identify, we can say: "In August," but the place is as 
necessary as you it was well it was known from the very first 
rules in December that you published ... 


     CPU: That is, yes, everything has already been decided
Everyone knew that no breakup, the place
is, all ...


     M. M. A.: And most importantly, a place familiar to
for millions, was near Inforkom in which dozens of people were, 
or at least know. In your hands our happiness.



     KVAZAR: This party is now on
verge of collapse, I can definitely say that, because of 
technology organizers, it may take us, if it is skorpionschikam 
will build it all ... 


     M. M. A.: I mean, what's wrong. God
with her, with appliances, machinery, indeed, anyone here 
personally do not like, I I doubt that anyone wants to see their

Work on the Scorpio, not the Pentagon,
God bless her, with the technique, the question that
we look? Us so well, we
saw each other, know each
another live, not through letters and
INTERNET 'a, but I would personally like to
ividet that struck to me personally, I
I'm afraid I do not see, in this issue, and this is done 
because of the split, which occurred because of poor 
organization is CHAOS CONSTRUCTION, here so ...



     KVAZAR: Well, at FUNTOP 'e was
Technology, if not mistaken, a month has already been prepared, 
tested, ready ... 


     M. M. A.: Yes, and it was covered in the publications, 
NICRON, for example, can generally get anyone ...



     KVAZAR: We are witnessing such
situation when preparing 3-platform party, all equipment was 
brought here just yesterday, here right now, all on snot ...



     M. M. A.: Indeed, Vladimir, pre-announced that the room 
200 seats people who were on ENLIGHT 'e - 3 the platform party, 
we know that come Thousands of people, people who were on

FUNTOP 'e know that it would only
spektrumistov 200 people, is in Moscow,
where the Spectrum, this is my opinion, can be
shame is dead. In Peter Spectrum livelier
Local will come more, and here at the Hall
180. A party of 3 platform, thank God, if you do not come 
either pC-Schnick, nor amizhniki, we then fit, thank God! if 
anyone does not have to stand in the corridor and do not lie on 
the floor. 


     CPU: FUNTOP should be, we have for you
hope. We will support financially, if
need to be ... Even if needed, can be
money to send forward ...


     KVAZAR: Support Fund FUNTOP 'as well.


     WB: Well ...


     M. M. A.: You should begin today
Now, after a party, you need to do the organization, not to 
wait for the future. You rightly so, that immediately after

ENLIGHT 'a all began to organize,
so nothing fell through.


     WB: After ENLIGHT 'a had a feeling
that if you let go a couple - the other months, it just all 
falls apart, everything dropped his arms, overthrow, and will 
not leave anything do, and I myself, in general, coder, I do not

doing demos, but I know how it works
is ...


     M. M. A.: I think that the decision was partly revenge 
after the failure of ENLIGHT 'a, but still ...



     WB: We had no desire to somebody
wipe your nose, but we were aware that serious works great, they
made throughout the year, and the
earlier will be declared the party, the easier it will be its 
potential participants. 


     M. M. A.: The fact that Vladimir, the most offensive is 
that many people were on ENLIGHT 'e, they were so deeply 
offended by what happened there, and I have the facts, man of 
BEERMANS 'Ou - Vanya, who wrote DeMouy BIZARRE CONSTRUCTION, 
which was very good quality, it is, in principle, was

is equal to the first 3-th place, then, because of
that the party was disrupted, and because of that
that the votes counted on the results of the party, deme was 
somewhere in the 4 th, 5 th place, he just spat upon arrival at 
all and went to another platform, ie, comes

Even before this, another thing, it would be a healthy 
component of a healthy vote, he would no offense, but since it 
threw all parameters, although all were thrown, but he

such a mentality, that he was offended and left,
that's what hurt.


     WB: But this is probably, maybe, and
in vain, because, after all, the price of those results, it is 
not so high as to perceive them as official ...



     M. M. A.: Of course, simply comes to what is admissible, 
VAV, which won FUNTOP 'e with you, because,

that he is the author of not zdal your ticket
voices, he because of this was not
third place, and on the 4 th, because between
CODE BUSTERS 'ovsky demoy and work
VAV 'a difference was in the voices of 3 points ...


     WB: At ENLIGHT 'e. ..


     M. M. A.: On ENLIGHT 'e. He would have passed
your ticket, and he'd be on a par, and he
just walking around, and Peter could not come ... Here comes 
even to the point that your results are now so common, that was 
good ... 


     WB: Yes, no results would be
in general, as if nothing, this too was a gesture of
despair.


     M. M. A.: Well, of course, here I am
nevertheless finally recommend you, go to, your name goes in 
for centuries in golden letters ... 


     WB: It would be good if so ...


     M. M. A.: I would be here would have thrown everything
organized to party in Samara, but someone there
come to me, who? Here you will agree,
from Moscow, St. Petersburg people, children from Minsk, they 
can be pozvat, one may ask, in what City are ready to go. I am 
sure that nor Rostov-na-Donu, Kazan, no, no Dzerzhinsk, even 
more so, Novosibirsk, Nizhny Novgorod yet, which now hold such 
parties, they will not go there, they zhut in the center, they 
are not interested in this hole our province, Samara, in 
principle, such same hole, like all of the above, the

Indeed, people are interested not only
come, but also to see how it here
what's you going, and Moscow, especially as the capital of our 
homeland, many wonder just visit once in your life, I I know 
that many were not even here, even Those who came back with me, 
it is necessary that people had an opportunity this is not only 
culturally, but also to develop themselves in terms of 
sightseeing is the center - Moscow, Piterburg perhaps, Kharkiv, 
Minsk, maybe, but no other local places. This is Europe, Europe 
is small, in Europe you can meet in Poland, then moved to 
Amsterdam, hang out in Finland somewhere on GATHERING 'e, at 
ASSEMBLY. Europe is small, there is a country with a large area 
of ​​our country, which is why we must go in center to another 
party other than the mythical somehow enlightened and know 
what's what. 


     KVAZAR: Peter, too, does not suit some, not all ...


     M. M. A.: No, well, let's say, in Peter
can come bourgeois, I would be happy here,
if they come, but I doubt that
at least one sensible bourgeois, people who have
mentality which is produced over the years,
come, not having the English version
rules, go to this scheme, for which
All here have got it even for a Russian
human rather scary ...


     WB: I think ENLIGHT - it was
single component, where they participated
Foreigners ...


     M. M. A.: No, I mean FUNTOP,
Although you have prepared, have done everything possible to 
come all, even the English version of the rules, your right, 
you are did you have involved, but the fact that nobody

has not arrived, you do not hurt, but you did
all that is possible. Now, I'm sure the announcement of the 
venue party was only in Russian, for sure, no English versions 
were not, and therefore nobody will not come ...



     WB: Unfortunately, I'm not an expert
English, to give 100% sure
response, but Sergei Novikov did the English
version ...


     M. M. A.: I do not argue, Sergey Novikov
boy, you've done the maximum to someone
arrived, but they did not come for technical reasons, but here 
nothing of this done.



     CPU: Honestly, yes, ad space here on such short notice
prior to this, of course, not very ...


     KVAZAR: They are right now reaping the fruits
just ...


     WB: One does not want to criticize
beginning ...


     M. M. A.: On the contrary want to, I love
that my prophecy came true, God forbid,
that they may not come true ...

     (Editor's note. - According to recent reports, the 
organizers of MOP and FUNTOP 'a going to come together for the 
Spectrum of SS'000