Adventurer #12 31 января 2001

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Interview - An Interview with CC'000. LEGENDARY BORN DEAD CREW.

 Elf> For a start - clear questions you ... At the expense of 
ELITE tell us where you are she was taken, and why it had not 
been submitted ... 

     U> And your rest will not come? To
then not to retell it all ...

     Elf> Yes, they're drunk for a long time, and not
want anybody to share, so listen then ...

     U> Well, ELITE, this is such a toy,
in general, folk art ... We have
a member of our team, his father - the founder, called Mac 
Buster, Sasha his name, lives in Moscow, and MAGIC, in

principle, and are co-founders
EXTREME, and, in general, he's so big
maniac in all of these SPECTRUM 's ... In
Specifically, it deals with the fact that he
this invisible work, which none of
We did not see it. He gets different data
different physical materials on SPECTRUM 'e
from the west. He is still fascinated by TR-DOS 'om, for 
example, ie, expected global stuff from him about what a 
BETA-DISK, why does he have so settled down, why, what he did, 
why ... ie, all the answers to all questions. And of course 
thing most precious rarity than live machines, some toys, it is

ELITE. He had long been working on it, he
familiar with Ian, I do not remember his name,
one of the authors ELITE, on all machines
they made her, including to
SPECTRUM 'e, and he at some point
found that this Englishman is a certain number of copies of a 
limited edition of ELITE, the so-called 48K GOLD EDITION. ELITE 
produced a lot of time of release, rerelizilas thousand times

it is fundamentally no different
except for some graphic design
magazine itself, and BUG-FIX 'and - the problems that a ROM' 
shkoy goes there. Problems with ROM 'shkoy - this is the 
problem of protection first and foremost. So ELITE 48K GOLD

EDITION, it is a limited edition,
I do not remember, and he does not know, Mac Buster,
the exact number, something about ... hundred
copies measured in England. And here the author
the game was somewhat neyuzanyh copies, and he
sold Mac Buster 'from them for the amount
he told me still not named, I guess that is the sum of not less 
than 40-50 $, so , with postage, crazy amount

But Sasha, he buys things like variety. He has a home a few 
cars there, SPECTRUM '-native, he told me that

planned to buy CODE MASTERS CD
COLLECTION - it SPECTRUM 'toy-native
on sidyuke. Well, this I can tell, if
it will be interesting, ie, you do not know these
things ... So, ELITE, it was bought, sent to Moscow, and in the 
best traditions Mac Buster 'but nobody did not mention it. And 
quite by accident in the past was somewhere in the azimuth of 
December-the month of November is a chance to talk surfaced, 
and He casually said that it has one. I

in complete shock asked, soap and we were there
communicate: "You did not say Che?!" And he
calmly replied: "And you do not
asked. "Well, and it turned out that
He has such a unique thing that he
bought it with the aim to break down. I
In principle, I do not believe that RAVER able
to hack, I doubt that such people
as Mac Buster capable of something to break,
but they say: "... we take it and we will
break! ". For them it is just a joke. He
said that his childhood dream is to take
machine normally 48-128, download there
these funds past MONITOR 's MONS' s,
GENS 's are all sorts, and break for Chesney
this thing that would understand what it's worth,
How is it all happening. I say:
"Well, when you are all broken?" ,
and he says that he has technique until
in the sludge, ie, it still can not make any SPECTRUM, no tape 
... I I say: "You can send it to us, we

This, in principle, EXTREME, this is me
have long been told not to sign the cracks as EXTREME, because 
EXTREME - it creative team, creative ... You can only release 
their stuff. I say that ELITE crack is such a thing is possible

sign, even in such a label. He agreed, and if we have any power,
if we can do something quickly done,
all, he sends it to us. Naturally,
that it was forwarding copies, ie, not even a copy of the 
cassette, and a copy TZX, VOC, WAV ... There has been a very 
long history, There were raised such legends as ... well

almost XPEH worried that by the AMIGA
connect the sampler, zatsifrovat ELITE in
After all, there were some people found
MAGIC, found TITUS - Andrey Titov known such a man. They 
assembled a complete Set HARD 'a, ie, AMIGA, there

sampler, power supplies, zasemplirovali
ELITE. Were sent to konvertsiey in TZX,
skonvertilas side "A" only. Party
"B" is not skonvertilas for some reason. It is however 
fundamentally going to happen next, I'm everlasting why ... He 
sent us a TZX, TZX come to us, I remember perfectly, December 
30, Last time I was at the Institute for themselves,

where I-net I had. And there was a conversation that
Tomorrow he will send it and 1 January, a new
year, at 12 o'clock in the afternoon I went to the post, there
You can have access to I-net 'and there
I really waited TZX, I recorded
it is not floppy ... There began a new year
global party was such a non-standard, there are pictures in the 
Internet 'e for ZS on the page, and by the end of this

party, when we are exhausted out of the total
the case in the direction of home, with all sorts of
girls .... A break in Samara, it was MAXSOFT - is unique, ie,
Max Vasilyev - kommoderator ekhi ZX
SPECTRUM at the moment. I got out of the
jackets this floppy 3-inch
TZX 'th, tied with gift ribbon - Max, here is a pure gift to 
the world. He says, "O-O-O 'ie, Y2K, we have gone through all 
these bugs in the apartment, and Here I hand him the ELITE, and 
he says: "Well, let's break ..." . At Max of HARD 'and of 
course only PC, SPECTRUM 's not, we would find

SPECTRUM, which would have to be honest all. But
despite that Max broke ELITE as follows, as he has racked up 
this Some things burzhuinskie with TZX 's, he

just trying to include your brain on the level of 92-year, 
well, 91 th, do not use some complex things, such as STS 'well, 
we used built-in monitor VHF. But technology was just that, what

could be a 86m year, ie, downloading the ROM, the installation 
of any CALL 's, etc. is, no barbarity, no present. It could 
break the one-button clicking on an emulator for something. And 
it is for two days was able to do everything, and got

ready damp memory, which posed
JUMP and toy run. That is, at this
stage to talk about it can be copied
been, and continue to be the work of diskovizatsii ...


     (Here comes Miguel and before
sit on the empty seat in the compartment, remove
lying there with his stamp, which put
printing on hand at the entrance to posetitiley
party, and it immediately grabs
Unbeliever ...)


     U> ... over here these seals
was such an idea, at least for me,
I have not expounded anyone. Case that
composing it ... itself there is the story of
as this seal were recruited in 10 minutes literally, is worthy 
of a separate saga ... In general, I had an idea, if it were 
all OK, that is, if we had announced

SPECTRUM '-native results, if we
showed demos, shows a graph was
The following idea: since certificates and tickets they were in 
history, they remained in printing press, they were not ready 
to fully and instead of tickets we have used this printing. I 
had an idea exactly as written on the basis of the word 
"diploma", and in general anyone who enters the scene, 
napechatyvat on his other arm. This would be really fun. On the 
one hand "Input" and on the other side "diploma" or

something else. We could not print 1'St
place, 2'nd place, it was necessary to perenabirat print, but 
it's hard. But such an idea in general, was ...


     So in general ELITE ... ELITE was
compromised, and it was in it just to play, just to find out. 
In the process of hacking has been recognized by many, many, it 
was found and he just hacking great results.


     Chasm> And the most important secret?

     U> The main secret, of course,
is the most important secret, the main results. In parallel, by 
the way, in Moscow TITUS, who sponsored the Amiga, ie,

HARD to digitize ELITE, TITUS, too
ELITE broke, he got it exactly
well as TZX 'and the Amiga, and for him
it was a matter of honor. And, in general, the data that were 
taken by Max and TITUS 'th case of burglary, a different data

they are on different business oriented, they
provides answers to all questions posed by INFORCOM there, mad 
readers some. Starting from the fact that this the buttons, 
about which more treasure when He still was not Cellars, where 
open 2-e Rooms inforcom 'and where they write: "... but we

finally found these super-duper buttons, paused to make sounds, 
here's a list of them. "Yes, these buttons do not had to be 
sought, I will show now that ELITE, where the liner, where it 
is drawn keyboard, where all these buttons are described ...


     Elf> Well, it is clear ...

     U> That is all there. So, it was found that this 49-I 
galaxy, which appeared on the scheme, there is, download games,

"Load new commander", answer "YES",
but instead of "Load new commander" are you doing
"SAVE" in the 49-th galaxy ... All general
so ridiculous that it should be.
Protection on the game puts a third person, third
company of strangers. That is, even the boot
wrote, and here in the place where you store
data loading ELITE, there lies a boot code itself. And when 
ELITE hangs "Load new commander", she waits what you get 
"Commander", ie, thus zatresh loader data.

In an amicable way, it should initsializnut
these data with zeros, but it does not,
She expects that they are loaded, and you
doing "SAVE". And when you do
"SAVE", then, of course, the flag is immediately
also include that data is recorded,
shorter in the body ELITE pass these bytes in
a boot ...


     (Miguel prepared fotknut all
present)


     Miguel> Kostya, you somehow got ...

     U> So sit ... That's all this Bayda
with the 49-th galaxy is just ... is here
This ELIT 'ovsky shipping, it will be replaced
loader. Conventional machine code. Plus
lots of things yet been elucidated. TITUS,
for example, found the following - here goes
constant struggle to FIDO: "Who is
Treasure, as he made his ELITE, ELITE II, he found firm? "Stuff.
But in general, is ridiculous to say that once
was ELITE II! ELITE II FRONTIER yet -
there is such a toy is normal for AMIGA,
AST, PC ... for SPECTRUM 'and never
was! Treasures, indeed, he had
more or less normal some version
game with which he began to work. For example, consider a point 
which opened clearly. People think

that he found the ELITE II for the original
because there is tons of new ships.
So in ELITE, on which we worked, the situation is as follows, 
it is TITUS found in case of burglary. Suppose there

some array of 3-dimensional, which stores
ships, 10-15 varieties of 3D objects. So, in fact, this array
much more he was there for 20 or 30 objects. Empty slots in 
this array are packed copies of other objects. That is, there 
two Cobra MK3, 2 asteroid, 2 for something else

yet. When logic toy goes through the body
generally, it chooses these slots for displaying objects, these 
pieces of memory. And if they are the same thing, then flew 
object "A" and object "C", while in the slot "A" and in the 
slot "C" model Cobra MK3 and we see Cobra MK3. Treasure it 
understands and He scored in the slot "C" your model ship. A 
toy he does not change at all, it only inserts the model here 
is this, I repeat, everything! The logic is the same, but the 
crash has already quite another thing. Here is born

ELITE II.

     Elf> And let's say there is some new
Mission ...

     U> A new mission, well it should just dig a little 
further, it is all too simple. We know that Kladova cut

text messages. There he is bytes, there's just added things ... 
It is not excluded that the missions selected for this same 
principle, ie a set of 10 missions, it is conventionally 
protsedurka, say from 3-CALL or 5-JUMP, and they also

can be repeated as ships. That is,
code all clear, just talented
boy, who was able to do something. He
had nothing different from us, the same
any snapshot of the M128, he worked with him ...

     Chasm> And the most important secret?

     U> And what about the most important secret
by the way?

     Elf> How? RAXXLA, kotoroy does not exist ...

     Chasm> Tell us, tell us ...

     U> way over RAXXLA ... So
Now, about what can we talk about RAXXLA, if, as I was told, 
allegedly in an interview in SCENERGY # 1 ...


     Elf> Yes, yes, yes ...

     U> There's supposedly already been written, that
RAXXLA not. The fact is that all about
RAXXLA it to be, because officially all appeared in the ELITE II
FRONTIER. There is RAXXLA, go to
ATARI, PC, AMIGA on everything there is. On
SPECTRUM 'e RAXXLA on the plans do not seem to
scheduled. Ie the work that we
are currently conducting, she ... Well the fans because no
prove that RAXXLA not, they may be her
search, but if they want to find it, then
to look for her here in this our release
because there will be just 14 bytes of system, which do not 
affect the game in any way ... 

     (Here comes the girl in the compartment, and said: "Excuse 
me, do not sacrifice a cat ...." The end of the phrase does not 
recognize, and the point is that the girl has a cat, the fare 
is on the train she had to pay, and therefore no money left to 
her (Cats, or maybe the hostess) food.

ALFF gave the little things ...)


     U> Thus there is simply no RAXXLA
uniquely, but the game we release order
so that people can not play in the trash, and
All that was before - it's all rubbish, you
you know that with this logic game
this is 256 bytes intro, ie, there you have changed 1 byte, and 
the effect of changes. Here, too, thing. Toy on the random 
numbers on strange logic, you do not care in memory

a little bit, there appeared immediately asteroids
some kind of crazy, and everything went so
not to suffer, we're going to release a version, and it will 
multiinterfeysnaya, ie, we have a loader for + D, under the 
D40-D80, ie, it will be all at once. Normal version ELITE,

which can really play without
problems ...

     Elf> shows how to insert ...

     U> I'll show you the whole box, but it can not be recorded 
on tape, it's just not visible. And one of the achievements of 
TITUS 'and this quite by accident, when they were working with 
the other side of caste, which has not turned into a TZX, on 
idea, on the other side must have a copy, and so it turned out 
the next thing - On the side "A" and side "B" toys

excellent, they have different addresses assembly whether all, 
or some of the procedures, I do not know exactly, but most 
importantly, is that on the side of "A" is a ship, but there is 
some other, and the side "B" is another ship, but no

that one. That is, we, in general, see
the root from which the branch has gone ...

     Elf> ELITE I, ELITE II?

     U> No, no, no ... That is, someone
took the side of "A" and the snapshots, someone
took the side of "B" and multifeysil someone
took another release, which generally do not know what the 
ships were, and just generally punished her by some unknown 
device that there is bytes left, ie e. split, rastroenie gone 
from it. On the company's tape on 2 sides recorded, one can say 
different versions of ELITE, ie, we sCOMPAREim it byte by byte,

find out what is different. In general, such
the thing is on the company, the original tape, ie A to B is 
different enough seriously. That is, well, in general, the box 
... (Pulls out bag box). This Here's the format, a popular,

Carton, behold, it has some of the inscriptions from behind, I 
honestly do not know what written there, I have not seen ever, 
here, here are some things written here, by the way,

interesting place ... Right now to find out ... Composition
This pack: cassette, space traders'
fighting trainer manual book, including
loading instructions, which includes
instructions for downloading, short story
on the subject, key control guide - it is,
Yes, ship identification chart,
functional key, legend and more ... Case
that Random has bought the same
ELITE, via E-BUY - E
Trade in Australia, after I
he said, suggested such action to the party,
ie, apparently, the author continues to trade
again have the opportunity to buy at such
electronic things, he cried about some
posters, embedded in the game, we have this
poster was not, in general, here, right now
we read, the poster should not be ...
Here, the characteristic icon FIREBIRD GOLD
EDITION, now says that it -
GOLD EDITION. Other Toys FIREBIRD,
As you remember, here SENTANIEL this, he
too - GOLD EDITION, ie, this final
version ...

     Chasm> Miguel, let's take off the box ...

     Elf> But wait, there probably frame
No, right now, decide ...

     Miguel> There are a couple ...

     U> Useless, otskanim then ...
Hence, inside, inside the home, here,
story by flipping useless images
no ... Similarly, read that back there ... Well here a brief 
overview of short stories ... 

     Chasm> Dude, with eyes eyes
shoots ...

     U> Wait a minute ...

     Elf> Stars, but not with the eyes ...

     Chasm> Ah, yes. Well I'm already drunk
chutchut ... I realized that I said ...

     U> There is a very interesting motto - I
right now I can not translate ... THE ORDER OF
ELITE IS A FIGHTING QUALITY FAR BEYOND,
COURAGE, MACHO AND COOL PROCESSION. Type law ELITE: martial ... 
power, some out there, superior, courage ... 

     Elf> Courage ...

     U> Courage, yes, there some "Macho" at all ...

     Chasm> "macho" ...

     U> Yes, and the cool - cool in general. Here,
This is the first book. Second - it is just
SPACE TRADERS 'FIGHTING MANUAL, right now it
look, because I myself have never
looked at the idea, in general, he ... inside it there are some 
screenshots, screenshots, apart from those here, the fact that 
it - handrawn, as you can see ... 

     Chasm> Sci-Fi, I'm 91-year
just hang with the institute came in
ELITE ...

     U> I honestly say I have not read this
books, there are very interesting handrawn ships, original, how 
should they look, ie, all face, we can

even in principle, to find out what's what.
The fact that ... Ops ...

     Chasm> Oh-oh-oh, nishtyak ...

     U> At the end of the book we have here, it appears, a log 
pilots can then Th record the date, name, there faylneym.

That is, after each journey you must ...
yes there is not enough, in fact ...

     Elf> Yes-ah ...

     U> You've got to start a separate book ...

     Chasm> What is this?

     U> Yes it is the inscription, figure some ...
The fact is that after each entry ELITE
gives the so-called, identification
code, about 18 digits, with adaptation, we
trying to understand what it is, this is totally random set of 
numbers, it is nowhere not used, but interesting enough

moment, ie, it forced people to write these numbers, although 
they never need completely. Here, the fact that the book

published universally, it is obvious here, I
just want to find here loading
instructions, on SPECTRUM 'or have they
No, the screenshots - with kommodorovskoy version
ie, the book was ... Here you can see
these large pixels kommodorovskie their
directly visible well, 2 pixels in width,
it kommodorovskaya version, pictures here
any ...

     Chasm> Show us some more time as
of the ship looks like. According to the authors.

     U> I honestly tell you, for the first time
can see for myself.

     Chasm> Handrawn image - of the ship ...

     U> We scan this book necessarily ...

     Chasm> Here's ...

     U> Yes, here they are - containers ... Thus,
right now we find loading instructions, I
just wondering, the book really ...
Oh-oh-oh ...

     Chasm> Oh-oh-oh ...

     U> Site plan, Plan search
RAXXLA. Is this a common book, or at least the loading 
instructions for SPECTRUM 'well done, it is interesting to find 
out ... That way, the authors, right now we are their elders

remember ... Ian Bell, David Breyven - is
original programmers. SPECTRUM
programmers - a 4 person ... Author
title Scrin known, more accurately, perhaps, the designer of 
the original, ie, the designer most of the boat, who made it to 
the SPECTRUM 'e do not know too much ... That is, well,

ELITE All this is dated 84-th year on
ACORN computer where it was taken on
SPECTRUM 'e, as we know ...

     Elf> On what, on what, pogadi-ka?

     U> Actually, I do not remember exactly right now, then
whether the BBC micro, whether ... In general, BBC
micro - was first done, right now, it exists everywhere, ELITE, 
incidentally, to my knowledge, virtually any platform. Well, 
BC, of ​​course, some funny conversion, including the

game-engine pilot fight there ELITE, ie not a complete toy
but as they say, the most real, most
real, most truthful ELITE, is to
ACORN ARCHIMED - machine, about which I
he do not know much, but they say it's something insane, 
steeper AMIGA, old as the mammoth, then Th, strong, but less 
common. Further, this one liner hippovy. Hence, on the one hand 
drawn normal keyboard SPECTRUM, which instead of buttons, it is 
written, just that they do ... That is, the people putting this 
thing before him, could everything went aksellerirovat there to 
steer where he wants, as he wants, what he needs. Behind, that's

they are here they are all keys, including ...
In short, all these things are documented, all of these 
targonoidy, it's all here is ... What they called credit

there is some kind of Inforkom 'e, we simply
never see the documentation that we see
it in the end, when we all know. How Rodionov said: "I learned 
about the interrupt ... I read my first documentation of the 
Z80, I figured with the regime of the interrupt

IM2 himself. Accordingly, I read this as
comic book. "The man who
he understood the principles of IM2 - it manual for
Z80 is no longer needed. In the same way here.
That, and finally the most interesting moment in
This case, here we proceed to nimu right now.
The fact that the toys have a few
degrees of protection where they have, here. First
all, it is protected from the copying,
ie, the physical, ie, it turbovsevozmozhnye loaders, there is 
no noise there No, unfortunately, as someone would like to see 
reviewed in the pause. There normal turboloader such loaded

large blocks rasksorivaetsya four-something in
course, ksorki simple, as I said
Max, that's even funny, he said.
Here is a degree of protection, but the most
main level of protection, it LENSLOCK.
LENSLOCK - this is a hardware system that, in general, allows 
one hundred percent excluded from being copied, because it is 
necessary physical copy of this here little things here - the 
lens. And it, of course, in the handicraft cases impossible. 
LENSLOCK can be observed in Russia, there is one copy editor 
... 

     Elf> ART STUDIO ...

     U> ART STUDIO, yes ...

     Elf> Adventyurnye igruhi old yet
all sorts of ...

     U> In adventyurnyh - Never ... if
you have ...

     Elf> was ... I saw old igruhi ...

     U> ... put to the people saw ... That is, after loading 
the screen is printed four-some kind of cursor, much of this, 
it must first be stretched in one part of the screen, then 
press ENTER. Then in the the cursor is imprinted letter

which must again stretch, press
again enter and then enter the numeric code. For a man in 
general, not having this unit as we

have always been, the situation was unclear. Naturally, we have 
all this was already broken short time ago. The fact is, it 
LENSLOCK breaks with just one CALL 'th, ie,

y burzhuinov just was not normal monitors, and they did not 
know it, they did snapshots. That breaks down one CALL 'om.

But if he did not break a single CALL 'om,
here's a situation - a stretch
once, twice, to impose a lens, a lens
represented in general here, I do not
tried it, it's incredibly complicated operation,
impose it as a four-then let her see, and now it will be the 
numbers that have type, and time is limited, if

you do it more than 40-seconds, you have a new phrase, new out 
there, the letter you need to re-do it all. And most 
importantly that's what ... 

     Chasm> Masochism ...

     U> ... The fact that that's the thing,
I could not see anything through it,
Honestly, here it is written back
LENSLOCK, in fact, it seems even
must bend, but I would not venture to bend it ...

     Chasm> Rarity ...

     U> Here. The fact that I have read in
burzhuinskih magazines myself, I have
several numbers SINCLAIR USER 'and behold,
burzhuiny that experienced the strongest issue with the advent 
of LENSLOCK 'well, people bought software in the store and just 
could not run it at home, despite the

a volume instruction, in general,
launch. Everything was shown. I remember in
SINCLAIR USER 's this note called
PRISONERS OF THE LENS, ie HOSTAGES
Lens and the problem was that this
system itself is very unreliable, such physical-optical, and 
secondly, the main problem was in the monitors. Someone had 
monitors, someone - TVs, ie grain size on the whole thing 
imposed, well, a miracle people ran toy, as I recall, was given 
10 attempts ...


     Chasm> Yes, it is written here, though
20 inches, you're on than trying to ...

     U> I have not tried it, I'm just saying, I
did not want to take part in it, but I
I know that very LENSLOCK criticized
burzhuinami themselves, because it is impossible
was to be honest, you honestly bought the toy, it was 
impossible to run frequently, vot.Zaschita itself becoming the 
third firm, so it breaks down really easily literally, 
literally, here at code level, it looks like this: Toy

loaded, the body is JUMP Games
done CALL LENSLOCK, and from any
is RET, or he makes RST # 0. You
CALL it just does not do everything, toy
work. And, actually, the body, the body itself
on tape, some of the film, plied strictly in the end, both sides
All this is duplicated, we are right now a little
squander, I suspect there are some
inscription on the leader tape ...

     Chasm> You have not shook?

     U> Never in my life ... Here, perhaps,
them, and do not have here, but it does not matter
in general, as a fact, it's all there is, well, wind will not 
... 

     Chasm> It should be a pencil ...

     U> That's all, SPECTRUM 48K ...

     Chasm> At least want a piece of film
look black - chrome ...

     U> No, I think - the usual, well
Okay, I will not wind ... Here, ELITE 48K
only, such is the degree of protection, which
comes from the boot, ie rasksorka it
yuzaet ROM 'shku and, in general, the Soviet machine to run 
something special and do not Can it. But the toy ROM 'shku 
especially something not yuzaet, ie, it does not yuzaet ROM 
'shku it from ROM independent if sense that it is hanging due 
ROM 'shki not might as well, in general, it is not in vain 
called 48K GOLD EDITION, because She works exclusively on the 
48-x machines. 128K ELITE - bugfix exclusively by such things 
as the ROM, ie bugfix protection, and, therefore, the mission 
and all such - it is everywhere, is in all versions. Or maybe 
not, I do not exactly I know ... I have a four-gonyu, you cut, 
I hope (for anything!. - Ed.) I would like consult with the Mac 
Buster 'om, with all, but I just realized when it

end ...

     Chasm> What I saw here at all, it was steeper than that, 
generally, there ... 

     U> And when I saw it, it was
even steeper when I got ... By the way, Mac Buster himself was 
unable to attend, he sent, there was a good option, he

sent me a train, I'm sure he
true, it is not my property, have
so - is beyond me, here. But I hope we will make the disk 
version, a completely normal disk version ... 

     Chasm> And soon it will be?

     U> And where it will be ... when we were her
do it no one knows us
more ready, more is not done. I just
I do not think it is someone already need, because after the 
release of BORN DEAD 'and such zero response was from the 
audience. I just besili fidoshniki always, they were especially 
besili Max, we did everything in secret, secret, ie fidoshniki 
begin once again to discuss the topic ELITE, ie, going to a 
group of lamers, who knows nothing, one says

says another of his support, the third to argue with him, but 
they do not know the truth, and Max - kommoderator this ekhi, 
he broke it, he knows everything, but he can not say

he just has to sit and shoot the noodles
with the ears of his, with strangers. And released
BORN DEAD, run it in FIDO, there
such a huge slice of ELITE ever written. I was just looking 
through some while there appears subj of ELITE II:

"The ELITE II ELITE III differs from"
ie, they either do not read, whether they slenimum I tear to 
pieces, yet something I did not show, I will not allow passage 
no. Not true. Here, stalls are greatly interested, he helped 
look for SPECTRUM, we found two SPECTRUM 'and for patipleys. Of 
them could skompillit one, but here is a situation that was

we are not allowed. Mednonogov gave us a tape, we had a tape 
recorder, everything was monitor is connected to, or to the 
projector but could not, in general. A Mednonogov -

best man, he is so much iron
we sponsored, that's a miracle. Here,
Well, about ELITE in general, everything, if you
there is more than some constructive questions after the break 
can be set ... 

     Elf> Yes, please send, by the way ...

pye, or they do not see, and very small
Activity on CHAOS 's, ie, either a
Indeed, someone entrusted to me
come from the crowd to ask if this is true,
then okay, so I asked 3-4 people
and then this here is the level of our with you - not
the user, not casual gamers, that is, I thought
minimum is I will tear to pieces while I'm something did not 
show, I will not allow passage no. Not true. Here, stalls are

greatly interested, he helped look for
SPECTRUM, we found two SPECTRUM 'and for patipleys. Of them 
could skompillit one, but here is a situation that was

we are not allowed. Mednonogov gave us a tape, we had a tape 
recorder, everything was monitor is connected to, or to the 
projector but could not, in general. A Mednonogov -

best man, he is so much iron
we sponsored, that's a miracle. Here,
Well, about ELITE in general, everything, if you
there is more than some constructive questions after the break 
can be set ... 

     Elf> Yes, please send, by the way ...


     U> Now there is a problem,
that the people at the SPECTRUM 'oh, they are something
abnormal doing. I understand why you need
boxes, which must grind data. People, for some reason wants to 
grind on SPECTRUM 's data, ie do some

crazy things that require megabytes
and megahertz, in their opinion, so now
gone some components with the bigger brains, who has more 
memory, I do not understand Why memory user needs these 
megahertz, and, incidentally, most of these here

KASIK 's, it's here they are. They seem to be not
understand that the 48 KB - it is enough that
3, 5 MHz - this is normal, everything is there. AND
I think that's a problem. I am now
Peter watched in people who do not
know how to play AY, ie, they AY
is not needed, it should only make a sound
a mouse click, and he publishes them in the same
and at 1, 75 MHz and at 3, 5 MHz. There are people who believe 
that if ever TURBO-enabled mode, this is normal ...


     Elf> Yes-ah, it's all chaos
some ...

     U> ... apparently you can play with toys, probably much 
faster grinding texts and formats in ISDOS 's faster than 
everything. I experienced with the precedent, when a car had to 
write something I feel that is included TURBO, and the buttons

no. I asked a man how to disable
TURBO-mode, and he looks at me so
eyes and said "Why ??!!" . When
I prepared the Party stuff on Sunday, too
We have one person in the apartment were, and
I look - TURBO-enabled, but the copy in TR-DOS it off 
automatically. I say: "Look, let's switched off ..." , "Why 
??!!" - The standard response. Being born a generation of 
people who just need to clean the brain. Maybe we

necessary, I do not know.

     And at the same time I now opened for
host such a unit, called
AMSTRAD CPC - a machine that produced a cantor AMSTRAD, when 
she had already bought SPECTRUM, so they are somewhat similar. 
This is the main machine AMSTRAD 'and 8mibitny computer, built 
on the Z80 and for AY, ie, very close to

SPECTRUM 'y. Z80, however clocked 3
3MHz, AY do not know what is clocked. He
3 Screen 'marketing razreshalova standard
ie SPECTRUM 'standard-native resolution, but the 4 colors in 
familiarity. Very similar to the CGA. Second razreshalovo seems 
for Commodore, ie, a pixel in width 2 points, a lot more color. 
A third razreshalovo a monochrome 600h200. Such is the custom 
machine distributed mainly: England, France, Greece. Custom 
absolutely region. And Germany. In Germany produced clones by 
Schneider. So, they demoscene is alive, I just interested in 
this affair, looked demos. Liked the demos, because look like 
SPECTRUM '-native, color SPECTRUM '-native, all native. Clear 
the work, they have their own Party. During holding ASSEMBLY at 
the same time, it is held in France the so-called Z-MEETING. 
Somehow I stumbled upon what they have DISK-ZINE is a very well 
developed, Well, I think that the old DISKZINE publisher must 
meet, will get them mainstream, such type SCENERGY. The last 
number zayuzat. The interface leaves something to be ... I 
began to read lyrics. Many could not read, but here's one 
article I was struck. Wrote one of the authors, ie, DEMOMAKER 
actually local. Well, he wrote: "What we have achieved AMSTRAD 
's for recent years in terms of hardware, and he describes 
every piece of metal that has been made, and describes his 
reaction to it. He starts from the button "RESET", and the 
original machines do not have this button ... in SPECTRUM 's 
not many cars there This button ...


     Elf> And how, then reset?

     U> "POWER" removed from the socket on
The power supply is not a button. At COMMODORE
the same as on SPECTRUM 'e. is simply
saving the first click. And just in the slot
expansion which would not have to insert some would
Cartridge, he always has the "RESET". In
each lronburg that in an expansion slot
inserted "RESET" is inserted as an extra lotion. In my COMMODORE
now stuck cartridge, which has two
wiring inside - "RESET". And he sold almost for 42 Belgian 
francs, where it was purchased, the price tag on it was ... And 
he describes all of the "RESET" and ends the latest 
developments, and wrote his opinion as DEMOMAKER 'well, he 
writes: "What are we to AMSTRAD 'have now connect? Brains - Well

visible on the SIMM 's to 2 MB, and wrote his
opinion, why?! WHAT CAN I KEEP
2 MBytes ??!!" and immediately responds
myself: "shit 22 Kgts'ovye digitization with a PC. And why 
??!!. They make my demos better? NO. Or konverchennoy tons of 
graphics, which can not be processed manually modify any 
existing artist because of the volume. And WHY ??!!". He asks, 
and answers, ie, the memory does not need such a big one. Then 
he says that's keys IBM 'ovsky hooked, well, that's OK,

because the standard is broken. Drive
3, 5, 'instead of 3, 0', there are 3, 0 'worth -
OK, cool wash, clean and operate. Further wrote: "Screw hooked.
Why do I screw??! WHAT I WILL TO IT
STORE, when I fly AMSTRAD 'warez LIMITED
fits on kopecks. OH WHY DO I
SCREW ??!!". And here it is, as DEMOMAKER analyzes all perfect 
ending there some midisikvensorami, and just come to the 
conclusion that this was all of no use, and this, in principle, 
it is true. Yes, it would Now cool if now was a standard 
TURBO-mode, standard 256 KB. All 2-fold increase. We could bomb 
the cool stuff, EI 'Schnick could be generally saved from their 
permanent podgruzok with Realmaster 's together. We there were 
no such situations, but this is impossible, physically 
impossible. Produced thousands of machines, and they must be 
such that any they are. But this is a generation of people -

Children NEMO, children Zono ...

     Elf> NEMOZOMBI ...

     U> NEMOZOMBI, yes. Nemozombi - it
separate format people. These are people who read OPEN LETTERS, 
it Nemozombi - it individual. And this is a common standard of 
fans this speed. I was a witness, I talked today. On the first 
day sit two boy, in my opinion, it's people from Vladivostok, a 
normal guy, you must tell him "Thank you" for a lot ...


     Elf> Who sold the Pentium,
to come here?

     U> Yeah, yeah, tough guy. Sold
your box to arrive at the SS, and well worth
NEMO. Running on KAY 's a TEST,
which in some boots shows
performance by 3 points. And in one
of points after the figures, after these felt boot some 
written: "MIPS", something is. This guy, apparently, knew 
something and says NEMO: "You Th, MIPS 's there megabits there 
.... operations per second." NEMO says: "Yes, four-something 
like that." A in the next column there is something too in 1956

felt boot written. He says - this is a
the normal car 30 felt boots, and then 56,
And what is this? - Hell knows - says NEMO,-Th-then there 
namudrili. I said - I understand that NEMO, it is this one TEST 
runs, yeah, 56 NEMO-valenki resolder here the frequency of ... 
compete ... 1957 NEMO-Valenko?! KRU-UTO!. "Here,

Children NEMO, children IS-DOS 'and ... I really
talking to a child of a large IS-DOS 'as -
Larkovym - a normal guy, I respect him very much, but he IS-DOS 
loves all in IS-DOS 's, well, instead of normal, humanly 
written ISDOS, cleverly, in a clear under 128 KB, they just

cut in TURBO-mode, and they all cool.
That's what I'm telling you - analyze and ask yourself the 
question - why megabytes, why 2.


     And about NEMO, here I am an old man
do not talk, I'm very sorry, because on the one
hand, we, like, become friends with him, doing useful things, 
but on the other hand, I wanted very much to go after him, I

would like to arrange here's favorite party pastime, ie 
DEMOMAKER 's compete with the creators of the iron underneath. 
Each other do not understand. Some say one thing, the other on 
the other ... 

     I would like, then talk to him, in
Zero day, I warned him, he said that he was preparing 
arguments, it is true once gave me what I wanted to talk. He 
said that the Pentagon will die in 2 years just physically, I 
say yes I know! On this and will speak to you.

Then he could not talk, and you
know they are there for me just the population,
purely to make me an organizer. So
Now, it is necessary instead of NEMO KAY 'a - we must take the 
brains of NEMO' vskie, that these brains man with the iron. 
Need to get it divorce fee Pentagon 'and with these new

technology, make it the size of the camera, all the new 
details. At HyperCheap or super-compact elements. Most 
importantly, what should be on This board is: most of the 
details should be on the panels, ie, if I blown Z80, I do not 
have to solder, I had took out-put; memory memory should not

be in general should be a slot for SIMM,
under any SIMM. I do not need it, but I
just do not want to solder, I want to insert
SIMM, which I bought at the market, just
insert it all. Such thing as a meal - it should not be 
standard. It must be connected to the pC 'shny power supply, 
and plug directly into the motherboard I have it insert, and I 
have it powered up, the tension is there. Such thing as a VIDEO 
- I do not want to be straining. Let me be 3, and better than 4 
VIDEO output, RGB modulator if it comes to the DMV. Possible 
without it, but with it better. Black and white output on 
kolokolchikovye monitors. Yes, there are cross 5 wires, but why 
should I baptize them - you Make standard output, railroad. 
Normal RGB, compatible with the monitor type "Electronics" - a 
standard 5-pin'ovy connector. Make it so that I could stick

it simple. And that we all must -
a chip company MOTOROLA and a crystal oscillator - VIDEO 
signal. He told me, however, began to ask questions about

VIDEO signal PALSECAM, NTSC, I say
- VIDEO-SIGNAL ...

     Elf> He told me that this sort of
navorocheno very difficult to do ...

     U> One chip MOTOROLA and 1
crystal oscillator. In the FIDO threw scheme
and I downloaded, 1 chip, 1 generator, and
everything works. VIDEO standardization of connectors, ie, 
connect to any VIDEO DEVICE, the main thing - it's VIDEO-out to

no hemorrhoids, it is now. Ie I
projector stuck, stuck in a TV SAMSUNG ... generally there with 
VIDEO output, and everything was fine. Next - PC 'shnaya 
keyboard controller on the motherboard. We do not can buy a 
membrane keyboard and PC 'shnaya slow, but what to do. Directly

onboard PC 'shny connector to a standard
PC 'shnoy keyboard. If someone has to,
mouse connector, ie, unsolder controller
Mouse on board immediately to dissolve. Connector for
a conventional mouse, a standard. Complete standard. If we are 
talking about the drive, his train should not be soldered to the

board. Must be a slot, this one for
plume, which I bought at PC 'shnoy office. Thus, if this 
machine to do much - it would not be worth, I however, was 
shocked to learn that, 1000 worth paying to KAY ..., I planned 
that Such a machine would cost no more tricks. The fact that 
this car will buy each of us, each sitting here. For

that kind of money.

     We are buying this card, it is applicable.
We take this case. Payment can be made
as PC 'shnye Corps. We buy the shell
at home. Buy from a SIMM, it
insert. Take the power supply, turn
it, take our VIDEO DEVICE, we put IBM 'ovsky keyboard. But the 
most the main thing ... NEMO, I do not believe that he

some crazy sale, it zeros
Sales so far are likely. But NEMO could
would now earn dollars by selling
This DEVICE burzhuinam. There nonhuman
market, simply inhuman, and they
it would be bought with such pleasure,
the fact that they also came to their offices,
would take these SIMM 's, would be inserted into these
fees, and all would have worked. Here it is necessary
Pentagon 'in 2000. Will be able to -
dilute it COVOX, but better
SOUNDRIVE, if someone needs it. Will
opportunity to put in it 2 AY, there
AY and YAMAHA, komutirovat them to be
You can, musicians - maniacs. That such a machine, the basic 
idea of ​​which - complete flexibility with the current element 
base virtually a PC, but Pentagon, fully

Pentagon. NEMO would a mad woman.
That would have bought every ... This would buy
EI 'Schnick to normal kodit demos,
I bought it to throw his unit, it would buy the Monster, it 
bought would ...


     Elf> I would not have bought ...

     U> Why?

     Elf> I stood my Pentagon, why did my friend?

     U> When will he die, you can
find a new?


     (Tape ended, and what this
the time indicated by the presence - is unknown, so why include 
the phrase - it is not clear at first) 


     Chasm> ... why did it end?

     U> And because I have already described before, this 
situation is that the people he is blind, deaf, ie, suppose we 
are in 2-m room BORNDEAD 'and release some

things crazy at all, shestibitny sound
Digital on AY, source code, there examples
some, but the people of this skipaet, it is not
see this ...

     Elf> Why do you think so, it is used by all.

     U> One time in my life used ARTY
it Deme and all!

     Elf> Yes, come on, there PARADOX of
Great Look, there's still ...

     U> No, I will provide simple interest ...
100% does not see this, feeling that
they can not read.

     Elf> No, but let us assume that those who
use of digital audio, they use
Here are your procedures here at the moment ...

     U> No, I have a feeling that people
simply can not read, and so on all
Settlements. Of any of my articles. There are people who know 
me, they are in contact ... They say: "Yes, Max, we read, but 
we did not understand." But the majority - is a feeling that 
they simply can not read. None of CHAOS, or

about ELITE, no reason. Here's the latest
BORNDEAD 100% proven. That is, we let him go, there is zero 
reaction, a reaction from people, from whom I expected, there 
reaction from people, from whom I had not expected very rare 
... and zero response at all by 100% by weight. I just realized 
that the issue is meaningless to these people, and this people 
it is not necessary. If they can not react as a normal, plus a 
second moment is that we cover, it

binds us still, despite the
all, 64 characters per line. 64 characters in
line binds us badly, it is inconvenient
read, we ourselves see ourselves know
themselves feel. And plus various other obsyatelstva, what we 
need to publish something of this mass of text. We each just 
have to do it better last time it took three days. Mad at all

three days. Last time, for the first time in history BORNDEAD 
'and on the two machines is Campiglio at home MMcM' a - 
SPECTRUM and PC, in general, the text EDIT 'ilsya in

DOS-NAVIGATIOR 'e. Prior to this text
DOS-NAVIGATOR 's EDIT' ilsya, but it was
in previous times, but it was design
results. Work was crazy. In this
once the text is constantly EDIT 'ilsya in
DOS-NAVIGATOR 's because it is impossible
was cut with a lot of text, 350 KB,
without DN. The next room, you excuse me,
we have that week, it will collect?

     Elf> So what, so what?

     U> I'm talking about the fact that it binds, we can not go 
forward, we must sharp break with everything. And in this case

I for myself ... And I have yet but a shell, I still have their 
prerogatives any. I need new horizons, then I all exhausted, 
and by the way, CHAOS is proved completely. If stalls reads

BORNDEAD ... It was a shock for me, I thought that the old man 
had long since nothing does. So, if there, opened the 
interesting aspects, ie, here we have everything here we've 
taken all, it is difficult find someone who does not know what 
it is, who does not love or hate. I affects another - burzhuiny 
reading BORNDEAD - Slovaks, Poles, like you

you know, forcing herself to read. I tell them
sorry, but even knowing the language can not be read
texts that are difficult to understand
Russian man who does not understand Russian, I know they do not 
understand, they take a superficial idea, I can not write 
sentence like: "CHAOS was, it was well, dem was 10, won deme 
number 3, ETERNITY INDUSTRY took 2 nd place. "

It was not me, this is for those who know the alphabet.
I write that vpreddverie current disposition. I am writing to 
normal ... I have an idea conspired there, in the roots, it is 
necessary to reach it, it is a separate component, read

BORNDEAD and understand it ... so I order everything and say 
that if they want, if they are ... I must help them. Therefore, 
my next task - it world domination. We must take the world

in general ....



            Messiah Of Tha Scene


     Chasm> WORLD DOMINATION ...

     U> No, DOMINATION - this name
mainstream magazine in the COMMODORE 64.
And I wanted to demonstrate that you
saw DISK-ZINE on COMMODORE 's, but this
is on the compact, you see. Here is world domination, it 
DOMINATION, it what I need now. Therefore, we plan to issue, 
which ... well, there was FIDO, you can read, can reach

up to you ... edition with the following specifications. In the 
first place. Edition Bilingual. English language Russian 
language. Moreover, if the material was in English,

we translate it into Russian, if it was
in Russian, we try to translate it into
English. Most often we even translate
into English 100%, but not all the material in English, we 
translate into Russian. We must be prepared to read some 
material in English language. We plan to publish a variety of 
things, besides the original material ... RAVER, for example, 
it is in English writes insanely good, and he writes in Russian 
translit horribly wrong. And I do not want build upon it for 
his article, although have always. Therefore it's better to 
write English, but as he knows, from what I dragged, where 
there will be his roots, meaning there are buried in the 
depths, so so we'll do a bilingual, in

first and foremost to the people there
not strained. And to Japanese and Chinese,
and Slovaks are normally read. Item
second. This is entirely the absence of a
boundaries in the shell. That is, we promise to element 50 
FPS'ov. How it will look We do not know. Ie 50 FPS'ov will be 
present in the envelope, clearly. But in the same time ...


     Monster> Well, probably it will not demomeykerstvo, not 
any bells and whistles, an effect that the machine requires 
insane resources. Everything will be simple, tasteful, but

at the same time, we zayuzat all that is possible. AND
able to depict everything that we want.



     Chasm> But then again you have to say that 64 characters 
per line ... 

     U> No, I said that the reader does not
has no restrictions at all, just
no. The fact that the basic idea
that, as I said, this is something that
It will be an element of 50 FPS, that she would
50 FPS, it would be cool 100 pounds, but we
make a magazine for any machine, starting
from zany KAY 'and NEMO, and ending
128 +3 D, which is generally very difficult
coded program to make it work.
Moreover, the concept of "Every machine is included
the concept of disk interface. Is any
disk interface from MB 02 - the last
mainstream disk. IS-DOS I miss
- This operating system. And the ending
cassette. It's just everything. Covers all.
This will work on any machine.

     Shasm> on the tape as it zatrahaeshsya
read on ...

     U> No one will read it on tape, you see. This is just to 
adapt .... This will work everywhere. And of course TR-DOS 
release will be issued earlier, clearly, but everything else 
will be - 100 pounds. And by the way in that the "reader will 
be absolutely free, includes such things as ... using different 
technologies reading room we will be able to use as an 
illustration such things as samples, things like

Custom graphics resolution. On non-standard resolution, we do 
not talk, we'll show it next time. Non-standard resolution is a 
2-bitplanovye interleysovye veschifotografii example, RGB 
things, such as a completely another platform, and publication 
will not only cover the SPECTRUM, snapshot, on the other 
platforms is just RGB. We are all show, this will be seen, ie, 
the limit for reading room there. And finally, the content this 
whole thing, it will be, first, about computers - 100 pounds, 
and secondly, about 8-bit computers are primarily about

SPECTRUM. This article will be at the level of
SCENERGY, I have not read the 2 nd number, at least
level of the first issue, articles without personal
opinion, if the news will have to try to ensure that they were 
difficult, very difficult will write them in this edition. 
Without some analysis. This will clear the facts interestingly 
presented. But we're not going to limited SPECTRUM. It will all 
be machines that are only worthy of attention. That is, we plan 
to publish material from other DISK-ZINE interesting rips, are 
worth reading, in particular, Here's the stuff about AMSTRAD 
CPC, ie, Here's the article, ie, why do we need megabytes, so 
it should just publish, people to read it, I can not retell it 
now that they have read it and see why we do not really need 
megabytes. That is, will all the best focus in this edition. 
Case that we can not say when we

do, of course I would like to make
it is the anniversary of borndedostroeniya. Somewhere
28 x the number of either October, or November.
We are here now on CHAOS 'e talked to
nation, ARTY is your project plan
DISK-ZINE, very interesting, I can not
it is now open, because it just blows the roof specifically. 
Ideology her, and at the same time, it just sucks

but the roof blowing away.

     Shasm> ... ARTY but it is such a person
general ...

     U> ... in general there RAVER 'in the roof too carried 
away ... 

     Chasm> ... N / O all ends badly
In my opinion ...

     U> A it has to end well, because it is bad - this is its 
essence. You see, here's the thing. But I talked with people

with whom I wanted to talk to, and for this edition we have, in 
principle, there is a command, ie translater'y, authors of 
articles ... all this can be zabombit, it would be time. There 
will be time we zabombim. A the title of this piece ... name we 
thought it would be called BORN BEAD ... 

     Elf> ... very original ...

     U> Maybe BORN DEAD II. In principle, the next number BORN 
DEAD 11, BORN DEAD II really is. And I hope that

so it will be. That is, in the old form, we do
will publish not, it will not be called BORN
DEAD 'om the old reader ever. Definitely. No options. I've seen 
in a new FIDO OPTRON out there we have something to read. In 
ADVENTURER 's something there, there is a DISK-ZINE may have 
heard ... 

     Elf> Yes?

     U> COOL!

     Chasm> Yes it sucks in general ...

     U> By the way, the symbolism of the name
DOGMA, if read backwards on the front, with the letter "I", 
looking to add, it turns out "I AM GOD" - approval or "AM I 
GOD?" - Voproshenie. "I am God" or "God I?" . I'm still on the 
train rides. That is, the issue is severe, such that at all. A

DOGMA, even on the train rides on the phrase I
such. DOGMA - a sentence the three-dimensional
demam on SPECTRUM 'e, a sentence three-dimensional
plot demam .... what more do you want to know?

     Elf> Very many interested in the question
of MASTER TRACKER 's, which was announced davnymdavno and in 
what condition he is now.


     MMsM> Started all just ...



     Monster> All this is a little different. In general, the 
principle of what is - the inspiration in the main, ie, now we 
have worked all the major principles, all major concept, which 
will be in MASTER TRACKER 's, basically, especially after

CHAOS 'and, after a conversation with almost all
musicians who are now at
Speccy scene. Take into account all their desires, and
Underlying all this will be developed
engine MASTER TRACKER 'a, and collect if
is such an inspiration, if it is free time from work, you can 
literally within 3-4 days.


     Elf> That is, all the chips in these basic,
they have already been made, as if ...

     Monster> Yes, the problem was just as well say at 
conception. 

     MMcM> Implementation of blocks to copy
PATTERN 's ...

     Monster> The most important thing is what that
this editor - is the standard editor
he did not show any new features
AY. They were already exhausted ...

     MMcM> But add another very large
convenience to all musicians.

     Monster> Yes, for what it's written
for the sake of convenience, to any aspiring musician who 
really wants to express its some kind of spiritual thought, he 
did not studied TRACKER 'and not engaged in the study ... 
search for some keys to ... Well, the study of the interface 
and just sat down and wrote. So it was easy, and had no effect 
on him, so to speak, the mental state. That there is no 
irritation to the most TRACKER 'y. 

     Elf> Well, almost, when you intend to let him go? Some
the first version is more or less working.

     MMcM> It would be until the new year,
Of course, do ...

     Elf> No, well, if this thing 3 days
then why "until the new year?

     MMcM> A, then there was the development of the blocks ... 
we should think through. I personally now finish the project 
MINIMAL TRACKER. This will be the editor-in type

SOUND TRACKER 'a, but with all the bells and whistles
from MASTER TRACKER 'and to be honest.

     Elf> And what is the trick, I can not understand.

     MMcM> The chip is that I am releasing MINIMAL TRACKER with 
opportunities SOUND TRACKER 'well, but it will ease

from MASTER TRACKER 'as well. That the people felt
rules are or are not rules. On this I rely, and if they answer 
me, like, Th something they like, if they are four-not like 
something, they add, Th-then I say. I have it right, we all 
discuss together through MINIMAL TRACKER. MINIMAL TRACKER

He, like, too, as the editor goes,
it is possible to write, as in the SOUND
TRACKER 'is, And then we were Monster 'om
just a remake of a hurry the whole configuration under the 
MASTER TRACKER. Everything elementary will be, we have agreed 
with him about everything, like everything, as in MINIMAL-, and 
MASTER TRACKER 'is, And all is altered in a rapid, literally

2-3 days, and will have normal MASTER
TRACKER, it will be all write.

     Elf> Well, when then MINIMAL
TRACKER intends ...

     MMcM> A MINIMAL TRACKER we can
just a week to finish, probably
if you sit properly.

     Monster> Well, probably a month later he would be ... 
Generally, in MINIMAL 'e main feature that is likely to

PLAYER it will take very few cycles, probably there in 
otkompilenom Mouzon, will be accepted principle is MASTER 
TRACKER 'well, so it will not a lot ... any otkompileny Mouzon. 

     MMcM> will be tricky compilation, in general there, well 
thought out. 

     Monster> And actually, it's say
range for tests MINIMAL TRACKER 'and

     MMcM> I have something started to create,
that-be on him to carry out some tests. To not just so we're 
editors never been written from scratch and take the MASTER

TRACKER write, we need something to complete it to work. And 
because of this push, and to write MASTER TRACKER end.


     Monster> Generally, it is assumed that
there will be no nobhodimost writing some new TRACKER 'and after
MASTER TRACKER 'as well. Because everything is
implemented. All that is possible.

     MMcM> Maximum capacity AY.

     Monster> In our opinion.

     Elf> Well yes, that is good.

     Monster> That's a fact
just tortured all the inconvenience of
trackers ... Well if ... We still do not know
how we respond to it, in parallel
More will be doing a wrapper for BORN
DEAD 'a. ..

     MMcM> Usually, this delay is, of course. One or two of the 
project, but we will try to certainly understand, find strength

any ...

     Elf> Do not even know that you and
ask, like Max has a lot to tell
interesting .... Do you have more in Samara
people who do something? Well
So I know ZS ...

     Monster> There is, in principle, even so ...

     MMcM> ... ZS completely manages networks of today, such as 
communicating with people through the Network Internet 'at. 
Here, he is now studying at university, in parallel kodit, 
there, always on the internet 'at. But I am he attracted 
recently, I also began to appear in this channel, together with 
him. Many friends are also found with him. Here

He is now on the Internet 'in, clean, all that
comes to us through all ZS delivered.
Previously, Max, too, studied at the institute, Max
too .... and through the ZS, and by the Max was.
Max is now all graduated, there is one ZS us through it now
Samara holds the entire Internet. Well,
ALIEN FACTORY ... ALIEN FACTORY, well, that
You can say ... They have in mind a very
many projects when we were leaving, they tried to finish all 
the same WALKER ... 

     Elf> That is completely, or demo version?

     MMcM> ... Well, according to the third level, he was 
finishing. And the first they started, and immediately after 
the first began to write Three ... Finished, they have the 
first level WALKER 'and already there, in Samara have all work. 
And he wrote the third level now, at this moment may have 
already written, I do not know.


     Monster> There are four ....

     MMcM> All four of them. Then it will be
write a second, then fourth. And there it is
somehow all at times, somehow, like, to
War - after the war, the new century. Well, he,
generally agreed, for some reason do 1-3-2-4. AND
So he decided now WALKER finish completely, and he there still 
some projects, about which he said remain silent, if

something will be. But he's something, too,
work. We can say that it will be
Conversion of SEGA Toys.

     Monster> person at all insane, he
literally disassembled with the help of emulators, a platform, 
but with PC 'shnyh emulators, as she works

platform. That is, he made out a lot of games,
Well, for the sake of self-education. First
SEGA, and secondly with the PLAY STATION ...

     MMcM> C DENDY ...

     Elf> Well, we all read it ...

     Monster> And this is just crazy, and
it all so real. Perhaps this is
sounded in BORNDEAD 'e enough respect, he's just broke 
everything. Up to three-dimensional toy looks like

it's all ....

     MMcM> He liked, for example,
PLAY STATION, in-game explosion, it is beautiful
made, and so it fits into the game, find
this explosion, all examine how it all blows up. Of course, the 
SPECTRUM 's all so appear not to be, but it is the entire 
algorithm realizes he loves algorithm games in general, here

in WALKER 's, where the soldiers are running around out there
shooting, as airplanes fly, how they
all operate at all. He likes to break the logic at all. That 
logic, he trudges straight .... on logic. 

     Elf> Well, everything there looks civilized, at least ...

     MMcM> Well, the latest demo version
said it all, everything runs smartly.
There are all optimized, more nimble all
Home run. However there is everything to the limit has already 
been done. 

     Elf> And yet some people are there?

     MMcM> In principle, in general do not know.
SHAITAN kind of started to produce his magazine. The first room 
was not very good, a lot of bugs, of course, it was. I do not 
know whether he will do more .... INFERNO ... 

     Elf> I have not seen it yet, but I know
that STARS OF KELADAN ...

     MMcM> STARS OF KELADAN, well, he chtoto
so in the background. That's when the Party starts, it pops up, 
does DeMouy, Max Goes Party with demoy. And so it is not 
noticeable, but he, like myself cultivator house. But we do not 
see. So he is still behind the scenes is still.


     Monster> In general people, in principle,
a lot, but we are busy with work, chores
commonplace. And do not often deal with a scene of Samara.

     MMcM> So, before I even musician
We had, for me, I was in the army. He
now fallen down, and playing in bars at the keyboard. And on 
SPECTRUM just scored. 

     Monster> Although just a professional
already do, in all this music at all
These rules ...

     MMcM> Yes, well put on remix
Spectrum 'e, he listens for about 10 minutes - here
right, let's all, and here the harmony is wrong. He is said to
hearing determines, and straight rushes to the keyboard that's 
when I have it sitting music Listening to the same with CHAOS 
CONSTRUCTION was "looking for you" Zemfira. Nik sent me, I have 
it sat here and listened to a certain point, and where only 
went wrong, he immediately rushed to the keyboard, and asked to 
what buttons here click to fix it to normal ....


     Elf> Well, that is, a man with
supersluhom ....

     MMcM> Well, yes, it is well understood everything,
He tried to explain to me the harmony, so
p I stared. I have two big
books ...

     Elf> And I then tried to MIGUEL I
just asked him, he also read
these books. And here all the time I rubs
Th something about harmony, I'm somewhere far away from writing 
music, I just was wondering ... 

     MMcM> Yes, well, the harmony is the very foundation of 
music. Create harmony, to vote harmony of all tracks. I've no 
idea As I write, just write here and everything. Purely

just went by ear .... That's exactly what
it should be. A very ...

     Elf> Technology ...

     MMcM> ... technology do not know at all,
as built. For example, I read a book
transposition of the music. There, all set out so .... in a 
blunt, ie, we have You can make a note and take it to unity, 
ie, up to the next note. A there's so explained, that he 
unfolds like a, well, maybe it's convenient for a pianist, but 
for the average person, which deals with music on the tracker,

acceptable. He is just a head load
superfluous information. Easier to explain that
it rises only by one and all.
And there they laid out on some steps,
Steps go up even higher, the steps are reborn in the notes, and 
there is something there all pile. Well, in short, little to 
understand. But the fact that I have it almost moved in with an 
idea to write a purely ... that's how I write, clean, simple, 
elementary concepts in music. All understood to read and 
understand how This all should play. And not loaded

This musical notation, like, felt the notes, the notes sklali, 
here's how it was. Well, I do not know may be someday I'll 
write. Type "How to write music-quick."


     Monster> Actually we are constantly in
plans, in the background that we have such an idea
still create some toy fun, all trying, but problems with the 
eternal graphics, in principle, without the artist's game

very hard to do ....

     Elf> So you do ... how much
I know, if you have some sort of timetable and
occurs, it is mostly ... Here FIL
something for demos drew ... you have themselves
no artists in general?

     Monster> Well, in principle, serious
Artists in Samara, we have not.

     MMcM> One was a BIOMAX, but is now left for the PC, and as 
they say, under the order can not write any of the images, but 
not I know ...


     Monster> But to do something
something, some kind of project is associated with graphics, 
you need to do this together, so that people do not just do 
everything in order ... 

     Elf> That he was inspired by ....

     Monster> Yes, inspired. In principle,
crazy about toys for many progressive
from FATALITY, say, and want something
like to do. And, in principle, to implement this part of code 
from the music is all very easy. That is an opportunity we 
have, but with graphics strained. 

     MMcM> Artists not, at least by
learn.

     Monster> So I do not know if
anyone want to have other cities,
us as a support ....

     Elf> But, in my opinion, you and so does not
mereno project to another and a toy, etc.
e. ..

     MMcM> No, we will try to finish
we have before the winter should MASTER TRACKER finish, it's 
all gather in a pile, and give the people that he is 
appreciated. What we are thinking about all this year, you 
might say. I promised it is probably still in the 99-m ... But 
in those days More screenshots are not the same. The first

SCREENSHOT was similar to
PRO-TRACKER 'sky, just a little bit reworked. There are too 
many functions on screen ...


     Elf> And what was this information
that this was painted just SCREENSHOT
in ARTSTUDIO?

     MMcM> Yes, yes ...


     (Here come unexpected end)