ZX Power #03
31 декабря 1997 |
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Interview - An Interview with Ticklish Jim-ohm, Rom / Progress, BRAIN WAVE CORP, RST # 7, KGS INC.
Interview with Ticklish Jim'om (C) 1997 X-Project Association _________________________________________ Editor's note: The whole thing happened vgorode Sebastopol, visiting Smash.Osenyu 1,997 people gathered here opredelennoekolichestvo several ukrainskihgrupp. Among them was Ticklish Jim izBrokimSoft, which we (to use a case-tea) and have this interview. . . . ZXP: A-ka answer this question ... T.J.: Yes, I know! When I first saw the Spectrum? ZXP: Exactly! You're like a joke - asked Chukchi geologists: "How I ole her? Guess - both give! "One of the corresponds to: "Two." "Well, you're a shaman!" But we digress ... TJ: Yeah, well, the first Spectrum I shall see cases in 1991, when he entered the Fizmatgiz, Moscow. I he appeared in the 1992m. The first six months, of course, only playing ... ZXP: Wait, now it's my turn to guess! You began to break basic-loaders ... TJ: But I'm here not only a shaman! Yes, I confess, I really started to "break" basic-loaders. By the end of study, in 1994 is already more or less mastered the ac Sembler to vserazlichnym "Hakam. AND did not stop there! Still I tried an (and sometimes unsuccessfully) adapted vat 128 disk-game, and when in 1995 came the drive, then it's time do diskofiga ... No, "diskofi katsiey "games. But the main task of all the same was "hacking" as protection hundred novilis more powerful and more powerful. ZXP: Not alone are you doing all this mess? T.J.: Of course! Already in 1994 the formation of valas group Brokimsoft. Then we only deal with different sorts there cheat'ami. And in 1996, our group (T. Jim, Slider, Panda) was included in the SOS Tav ETC GROUP, consisting of the QD-SOFT, KV-SOFT, KV-HARD, LAZY and LEMMING. ZXP: striped devils! Try it all This figure it out: where is the KV, where KT ... TJ: So in-oh-oh-t, by the time KT ETS Lal several versions of FF and a couple of car Exact games. In December, we released CSC-1. After that began Disorders in ETC. Eventually I left, became free-hacker'om, Panda remained ETC. But six months later BIS was recovered lished in the original composition. Immediately the question arose on the issue CSC-2, ROBO, LAZYPACK, CONFUSSION. But as KT, the main programmer left on the PC, and nobody else took up the work on the CSC, they engaged us. Although before the CSC-2 will be released a few other toy. Between its release and l. com CSC-2 is planned to yield ROBO, that too, no one is going to delyvat. ZXP: Why is "between"? TJ: And because the second Pand'y us No, but he was available, would soon be the army. ZXP: How about the next plans? TJ: It LAZYPACK, who has to finish We, as well as CSC DEJA VU. Totally real royaten out Free Format'a 8.3 +, to tory will be better than 8.0, but the obi Lie glitches nullifies all the reliability dignity of the new version. And of course, edge ki, protection ... At the moment, ETC as such ceased to exist. And of those who made it once, work every "for themselves." KT floor completely transferred to the PC; LAZY, buying AMIGA, recently sold it and bought a PC, scoring, it seems, to Spectrum home finally, though still dodelyva em CONFUSSION, together with STYL'om. But release dates are still unclear. I, PANDA and STEELER, when no deceleration winters - are working to CSC; PANDA parallel parallel to something draws, writes music, which is getting better and better. SLIDER Restaurant games, bring them to the "convenience playing "state. STEELER" Hughes em "AMIGA, does the defense. ZXP: Well, you yourself are doing? TJ: I T.J., when the "wake" all "Move", working on the CSC, Krakau all that is at least some interest from the standpoint of protection, and under the mood of doing some metal lochami. And for the most part scoring their brains and take out all the fantasy acquaintances. ZXP: O, fantasy - it's good! And after you progress of this very CSC-2, we repeat this fascinating conversation, and yet We call it a day, we still have to Today a couple of interesting interviews. ;-) _________________________________________Интервью With Rom / Progress (C) 1997 X-Project Association _________________________________________ EDITORIAL: Moscow. Autumn 1997 goda.X-Project Association visiting gruppyRrogress. Apartment Rom'a. Drink tea ... . . . ZXP: I would have asked you about his first meeting with SPECTRUM'om, but I can not even pronounce this question ... ROM: I'll answer anyway! (What else can be so exciting to tell?) My first PC (Spectrum) I saw in 1989. It was given me DYNAEL-48k. Before that I did not show any interest in the company, although the set Gia my friends were badly this dragging were obtained. In the game I "batsal" fixedly at approximately a year. Then I became interests poke "stuffing." Was initially BASIC, then a small inset on the ACME. With 92 in 1994 in splendid isolation did CRACK'i tape. In 1995, acquires Moscow rel-128. Began to appear on market and communicate with the addition sceners time. Done multiple disk versions of the game for me, some even Now do not be ashamed. ZXP: You then anywhere studied / worked? ROM: While I was in MIVT'e (Moscow Institute of Water Trans port) ZXP: Who would have thought ... ROM: Yes, after studying with a friend, we often go and see the market in full form: vest, belt with anchor, etc. ZXP: I think it's not completely gone ... ROM: And how! It subsequently became One of the reasons that influenced the word SEAMANS in the title SMBUHG. ZXP: When formed these things worthy union? ROM: the exact date of formation SEAMANS BEER USERS HACKERS GROUP difficult to consider Ret beneath centuries of dust, but mately it was in the late summer of 95-th. Similarly, we can say that it is the name I came up with during napisa of his last re INDEPENDENT Lisa - SPLITTING IMAGES. And it was in October 95 th. The first release under the SM leybelom was WORLD CLASS RUGBY. AND group was originally conceived as a CRACK - team. ZXP: And who went into its composition? ROM: With the original line-up, too, not all so simple. At the beginning of the SM were: ROM - organize, gfx, crack, code, swap; FUX - code, crack, some gfx; SHEMMY - code; NICK - gfx. Still there was such a fun person - Agayev Eldar, it is a long time thought that is also a member of our team, but In my (ROM / SM) opinion, as a body nayzera, it really never was. ZXP: Does any change in the team? ROM: No, on no one in the SM are not enrolled Xia and do not pay. But all the work since the late 95 th to the present time, were only two people - Rom drive and FUX'om. During During the existence of SM has been done CRACK'ov quality, several syst. prog and two demo-prog: MIC gift and our CONTRIBUTION to ENL'96 - INFLU ENCE demo. Shortly before we E'96 item Nakoma with the guys from the MPS group. A immediately after it was decided to create organization of two of our teams to written jointly by dem. That was done. (BC - November 96-go). Thus was born PROGRESS. Next It was decided not to share in the SM and the MPS and in future releases of all the works except CRACK'ov under leybelom PGS ... ZXP: And what about SM? ROM: What SM? SM and to this day susches tvuet, and we're doing from time to FUX'om CRACK'i time, in the winter to PGS accession nilis KOLOVRAT aka KOLVER and KSA aka MADMINDER. Then there were the binary Scone struirovany few more dem and hyphae Comrade. Polednee our creation is called a vaniem S4B otkompirovano was not on the com similarity DEMO party called ENLIGHT'97. ZXP: How-as-well! Remember ... What is this hour clogged your bare PROGRESS'sivnye you? ROM: The first place we now find Xia DEMOMAKING. And a new generation of - with a robust concept demos and with professional design. ZXP: That was the question: how do you generally regarded Vaeth DEMOMAKING? ROM: We believe that at this level again DEMO-development technologies at the Spectrum, DEMOMAKING can be regarded as quite a serious art form. ZXP: ... And nothing but thereof? ROM: Well, no, why ... We are involved in joint project with DIGITAL REALITY PHANTASY and to create a previously unseen finite type magazine. This will be analyzed denounce separately in the near future will general. Also advancing to the project Writ entirely new operations onnoy system with a view to use Use all the resources of any Spectrum-compatible computers. On MIC and other platforms supported KSA vayut general (PC / AMIGA) music scene. FUX studying and coding system on AMIGA. ROM is trying to draw in 24 bits. In the near time to cook chance to release a small DE MO-product on the Amiga. ZXP: And finally, to acquaint us with the composition Groups and roles ... ROM: Composition (for oktyabr'97) is as follows: ROM - organize, conception, main gfx, main design, code, crack (?); FUX - main code, design, music, some gfx, crack (?); MIC - main composing, design, code, gfx; KOLVER - code, sysop; KSA - composing, code, consult; GENA - code (?), Music. ZXP: Below is a list of the Panel's the entire period of their creativity. . . . SCENE REALIZING 1995-1997 Version 1.0 -CRaCkZ: WORLD CLASS RUGBY ................. nov'95 DRACONUS (/ dream team )............ dec'95 SEXTRIS 2 (/ agaev eldar ).......... dec'95 KING KONG ......................... jan'96 MUTAN ZONE ........................ jan'96 AMAUROTE .......................... jan'96 BATTLE CITY III (/ agaev eldar ).... jan'96 DARIUS (/ dream team ).............. feb'96 BIFF .............................. feb'96 AMMYTRIS (/ agaev eldar )........... feb'96 VINNY PUH (/ agaev eldar ).......... mar'96 KING'S BOUNTY II (/ agaev eldar) ... mar'96 DARKMAN (/ magic soft )............. jun'96 MERCS (/ magic soft )............... jul'96 RALLY CROSS ....................... jan'97 ATLANTIDA ......................... feb'97 3D CONSTRUCTION KIT + COMPILER .... feb'97 MERCS version 2.0 ................. jun'97 STRIP REVERSI ..................... jul'97 -SYsTeMz: SM BOOT vol1 ...................... oct'95 SM BOOT vol2 ...................... dec'95 SM SHADOW SYSTEM BOOT + installer.dec '95 Pro Graph Utility 1.52 ............ jan'96 -DEmOz: INFLUENCE demo .................... aug'96 MIC gift .......................... jan'97 bY R0m dA SeaMan _________________________________________Brain Wave Corp. (C) X-Project Association _________________________________________ZXP: At this time no question about the first encounter with SPECCY, so let's get right to the "cause": the date of formation, in-ranks, ideological platform ... EX.: Team Brain Wave was founded in November 1997. It was conceived not by a bare "I want to and we had our own group." We took into account the most important thing - well thought-out projects, and a craving for their creation. Everything began in 1995. Then I learned about the existence of a MEGASOFT'a (later to steep-dera), with whom we have amassed a small group of our first, and then developed into a fairly large pool of any action - Star Group. ZXP: How did all this happen? EX.: How was it? And as it usually happens in childhood: wanted joint topically to do something on the Speccy, no matter what, just to do, do do ... Immediately distribute their "Duties" (still wondering as we have quickly done so). And in our Brain'sah flashed onto the idea of creating Demo. ZXP: Impressive! Not just a demo, and with DEMO big-letters ... EX.: Well, by that time developed the idea passed for the line Megademo! Names of it is too soon - "ULTRA". Leach but my opinion about it - this is that it is little more than has passed for middle line of coolness. But the main thing - to start, give yourself an incentive and I think that such an incentive, we get Do ... ZXP: Hmm, what is important - start, this question grew controversial (that some believe that the main thing - finish ...). But it's all philosophy, and life is life - Naver Noe was a lot of problems you faced? EX.: Yes, the philosophy of philosophy, but all the world goes on. Affected and lack of experience, and experienced coders ... Finally, after about a year ULTRA Megademo was appended to all follows follow from the consequences. ZXP: Well, how! Imagine how many follows Claw "effects" that way by degrees forty in the process of "flushing" ... EX.: Incidentally, what about the demo, I've even seen her in price-list'e any group. Those Now everything seems asleep on my shoulder, we felt free - not least Lo stress. Ideas come one after one after another and left. With few more than a year we have been written yet another but the Demo "Global Emotion", two games ("The Scorched Earth" and "Chopper Du el "), as well as releases have to frame, but I remember X-OUT, MEGANOVA, HELLFIRE. Global Emotion was napisa but somewhat later. It is fully consists of digital tunes, SOD ranyh with IBM. Chopper Duel - one of the the most playable games on the Speccy for two. The game has 50 levels and takes she just simply about 70 sec. ZXP: A-ah, it's about these small helicopters letikov-killers? EX.: That's it! It is the most ... And finally, The Scorched Earth. If you saw the game Tank Wars, then our game a little of its recalls. Additionally made: protection of tanks, the menu during the game and Other bells and whistles. Demo version of the game you can be found in the annex to magazine (May be ...). ZXP: It's time to get acquainted with the composition and the distribution of roles in the group ... Brain Wave Corp. ... Even before the creation of this group had very interesting projects, the lingering We head. I totally went into the development of ideas and design. At the same time we have worked over the union in the city of people with "Genius" deviations in favor of Spectrum. The present composition: Extremer aka X (Dima). Organizing, Design, Graphics Megus aka Roma ........ Coding, Musics, PC Virtual aka Lech ...... Coding, Musics Pilgrim aka Andrew .... Coding, Hacking, Dr. Uksus aka Sanja .... Coding, Hacking Danzil aka Daniel ..... Coding Navigator aka Jack .... Hardware, Program ming XCyber aka Serge ..... Hardware BlackMan aka Igor .... Hardware Igor Baylukov ........ Hardware Teenager aka Pasha ..... Programming, Game estimation Amazing SS aka Serge. Graphics Phantom aka Denis ..... Writing, Review Kav Gluker aka Andrew ..... Writing, Graphics EX.: But I'm sure it has not yet all ... After all, "men of genius on the light those few "(to quote). If you have a possibility niknet idea about the association, the just call me or write. ZXP: What about plans, projects? EX.: At the moment a lot of time otni mayut our projects, we Sobey raemsya surprise you in 1998. Most of the time occupied by design and thinking programs, but beyond that still have school (okay that last year), friends, fellowship and personal problems us. We work hard, do not peck Dai hands and .. and .. and - in general ... :) Fundamentals directions of our making'a - is gaming and system (application) program, namely: - Color Eye Visual Studio'98 - ZX-Word'98 - OS for Speccy - Dynasty: Rise For Rule - Babylon-5 (workname) - Brain Wave Promotion - Verbal Diarrhea Eurodemo - ZX Spectrum History Encyclopaedia (Workname) - Release of his own newspaper - BrainWare OnLine I want to draw your attention to the encyclopedia, as it is, in my opinion, should be the most ambitious, informative, went down in the history of the smallest, and at the same time, popular Speccy. Would greatly appreciate any assistance and cooperation with you. At this the time needed only an autobiography (at your option) remarkable people career advancement and support of computer ZX-Spectrum. You can also go down in history as the author of articles and essays about computer. Once again, we are pleased to cooperate with you and look forward to your suggestions. All this in our application to the magazine. (BrainWave Info # 3). Need a little reservation about the OS, since original idea belonged to Pavel Fedin of Moscow / (095) 326-53-75 / we support the her and offer to engage in this necessary work. On this, perhaps, can be and stop. If there are any questions you can ask them through the editorial board or directly to me - Extremer'u. Address: 424019, rep. Mari El Yoshkar-Ola, ul.Yyvana Kyrlya, Building 21, kv.7 Tel: (8362) 226-005, Dima (22:00-24:00 or 13:00-15:00, in other time guarantees to find at home do not give a) Fido: 2:5052 / 7.37 to Extremer 2:5052 / 15.17 With best wishes and responses Extremer of Brain Wave Corp. ZXP: Thank you for the same! _________________________________________Интервью With RST # 7 (C) 1998 (R) soft. _________________________________________ Prologue. "- So I'm a millionaire!" - Cried Ostap with a cheerful surprise. - Mechtyidiota come true! Ostap suddenly sad. It is time-Zila ordinariness of the situation, he was shown elk strange that the world has not changed siyuzhe second, and that nothing, absolutely-Nitsche th did not happen around ... Mystery drop-one goal is reached, do nothing else, and we must change the profession ... " Approximately the same and I felt after taking a Rst7intervyu. How was it? The idea of an interview to La me a long time ... And so it turned out that Dima was in my house with poslevstrechi MAXom IWAMOTO and I persuaded him to to be interviewed for ZX-POWER. We took Roganskogo beer, sat in the kitchen, took ... Chinese recorder and ... That this Timeout - to judge you. Legend: RS - it I, (R) soft, R7 - Rst7. . . . RS> Full Name. R7> Dmitry V. Oparin. RS> Age. R7> 24 years. RS> Where did your nickname? R7> O, with an alias is a funny story ... RS> is clearly related to the 80 CPU? :) R7> No, the idea was not so little. Once upon a time all rushed to collect the "first Leningrad. "They had to build and has developed a wonderful method of adjustment. if you include a wheelbarrow without PZUhi - it all screen "mattress" to score. And while I guys explained (itself, of course, understood), where does this mattress ... And he's taken due to the fact that the ROM command RST # 38 carries, scoring a stack. In those days, I still Z80 assembler did not know, I know only 580 assembler. There's this team called RST7. :) Oh and just stuck! :) RS> Yeah, interesting story. I honestly did not expect such a response. I thought that it was taken ... In general, quite unexpected for me the story ... R7> true what they say names, which invent, the most apt. RS> How did you start programming in Spectrum? How did this happen? Gathered, probably, Leningrad 1 ... R7> Yes, the first Leningrad. I had had on kassetke GENS with MONSom ... RS> Yeah, it means the first programs you were sistemki. Obviously not playing program ... R7> And the toys I had something that was ... Three pieces of some prog ... I did before on MSXe pig. RS> I'm specifically interested in this: about what year did you start? R7> In the year, probably 91. Also on the tape tried to write something and say - Bulshit, BULSHIT! We did the wheelbarrow with the drive. Also decided to cook up something, TASM had to do. :))) RS> Yeah ... And that was before the Spectrum? R7> Oh, and before the Spectrum was a lot of things. The first computer that I have something pedal was a specialist ... RS>:))!!! R7> Chudnenkaya this design. Well, that More? RKshka was still. Too funny thing. RS> When was it about? R7> about 86-87 year ... Then at school, when studied, the class was MSXov ... As "Zagarelos! .. :))) RS> Yeah, MSX, as I understood it, the car really is the best, for which it was applied Z80 ... R7> Vosmibitka. Yes, generally it is the best eight-bit machine. That is, only that it may be, this is Commodore C64. RS> Maybe ... And how you taught programming? You have someone helped teach? R7> himself had trained, most up to total income. RS> How did you meet KLAVom, MAXom? C nebezizvestnymi such people ... R7> C MAXom I met in the smoking room. When was podkursah in HAI. RS> When was this? R7> Well, it was a ... I was in the final year student ... Obtained 89-90 academic year ... Somewhere like that. A conversation about MSXov. MAX: I'm not here to Pedu have ... (Pedagogical Institute). Then, respectively, and I got there. Style company in Of course, we selected a wonderful. :) And with KLAVom I met ... MAX, then on beam Spectrum WARESom traded, well and KLAV too ... And on the beam, of course, all familiar with each other. Well, in one person, so it's 100%! RS> with you, I also met there .. :))) A Jura Home'soft is later joined to you? R7> Yes, somewhere so ... I do not remember. RS> How and why did you have an idea to organize CODEBUSTERS? Why, incidentally, she called? R7> Team organized a general-how MSXovskaya. RS>!!? R7> That is even before we started hard pedal on the Spectrum. Why is it so is called ...? Damn, I swear, I've already I do not remember! .. :))) RS> I understand this was due either to CODE MASTERS, either GHOST BUSTERS. Mixture? R7> And here it is ... All this was so long ago that nobody and do not remember. While it may IWAMOTO still remembers ... RS> As I understand it, do you prefer more more to be a programmer than a hacker? R7> In principle, yes. Although in general, say Honestly, no shame in that I do not see. I at the time nadizassembliroval lot of programs. And this is a stock of experience has given not only on programming techniques and a By hacking that ... RS> After the wave megadem LYRA II and SHOCK you decided to write my DEMO, and I think you succeeded. That was what? R7> It was a SATISFACTION. God forbid memory we finished it in spring 1994. RS> Note that immediately after this went huge wave megadem, and shovels. R7> Yes ... RS> began to organize the group ... R7> Before all hard ... Everyone on yourself! RS> But what megademo? Need GFX, MusicMaker needed, etc. In other words, need a group. Everyone started to join in group and say: "What we're worse than we can write a demo?". And threw the main power writing a dem ... R7> Well, we leave the issue without comment: "Worse still, or not?" :)) RS> OK! After you got your second megadema - INSULT ... R7> Spring 95 ... RS> Frankly, so far for me this is the best demo. Although I somehow fool them sr. I do not know how you can be EYEACNE something stronger ... Feels kind of nostalgia, just ... R7> Just ponazhimat a space. :)) RS> Yes! :)) R7> Or, accordingly, not ponazhimat. :))) RS> I'm surprised that even then KLAV wrote good music. It is a pity that he has, as I understand, it does not. I want to say in your group ... R7> Although he is a wheelbarrow, though not Spectrum. What is the difference, MOD, you can write on anything would be an editor. RS> What effects you most attracted to muzykalkah? Such as 3D-graphics, to show a bunch of floating shit'a ... R7> You know, Vovik what was going on. I think we should make a good design. This important. Can not be cool coder, and make a good DeMouy only because the its cool design ... RS> I see. I know you had a gap in the Spectrum of activity, when you're on time left with him. When you came AMIGA. R7> Yes. RS> Besides, you worked at IBM? R7> worked and had to work. RS> In addition to these machines you are on something realties worked? For example, at the Commodore. Or you only heard about it? R7> C64? Well, no. RS> played, maybe ... R7> Yes, the game. But I am so very into toys I do not play ... RS> Well, it's known, what you do. More serious cases. R7> No, well, what? Purely on-jokes can be If a cool toy. RS> It goes ... R7> But not so that days and nights sitting a wheelbarrow batsat ... You can collect four and a vodka in the Duma members to practice each other ... RS> Why do you still continue to write on the Spectrum? Machine is something at the moment not the most ... cool. There AMIGA, which you love so much ... R7> Yes, simply by-jokes! Pure Jigsaws, purely in-jokes.:) The more you understand your computer, which consists of 50 buildings shallow logic ... Itself cool ... RS> But it is still worth something and now $ 100. But AMIGA 600 can be for the same money to buy. So the cost of these machine equal. What is the meaning to write Spectrum, if there AMIGA? R7> Spectrum now so that they, perhaps more than pisyukov. RS> I agree. R7> It's even taking into account the fact that pisyukov just Nemer. Counting is not be, but I think the Spectrum still more. :) RS> Yeah, sure. More so recently as it became popular in the scoop ... R7> last time - it's about 10 years. :)) Say so. RS> I think that was the moment when all thought - is about to die Spectrum. R7> Yes, definitely! RS> Do you think he died in the same Poland, England, America? In my opinion, is long time! Now he is very popular here in scoop. But it is my opinion. Now write Toys foreign firms? R7> How do you say? Guys, British, that there is a computer magazine release, English ... How is it called? RS> ENIGMA? R7> Oh no! There's slipped some phrase about the fact that someone out there from companies More pedal. :)) RS> But in fact the West has decayed ... Spectrum TAM has outlived his own, and it makes no sense to continue to his writing, when the same AMIGi and became cheap pisyuki ... Thee happy Spectrum as a car? Its new features, graphics. I do not really, for example, like usability of the screen in terms of breakdown on the third ... In short, that you are not satisfied and suits in the Spectrum. R7> satisfied with my wild simplicity! All brilliant - easy! Another thing is that Spectrum is famous for the most powerful 8-bit processor and a very small screen size. That is, the ratio of CPU to fit the screen very good. RS> What is your opinion about performance? R7> do you mean? RS> I mean the clock ... R7> Yes, the normal performance! It is clear that we must be able to write well. On any processor, even if he supernavorocheny, with furious clock frequency if written by .. ny through .. ny and succeed. Here is a good example - vindoza! Inhibits just wild! RS> What is missing in the Spectrum? Or you all satisfied? R7> me, in principle, all suits. I so used to it, that ... What there is not enough ... I was at a very MSXe very pleased that there mepper made - The page can be included to any address. If on the Spectrum with only # C000, then the MSXe, there are 4 ports on the switch 16Kbayt. That, of course, is much more convenient! But was accustomed to do without it ... RS> What are your predictions, long live More Spectrum? I mean a scoop. 2 years, 5 years? Maybe, as long as people do not have the money and all currently able to buy any IBMki? R7> The process is long, long time coming, and this question comes up every year. How much Spectrum would live? Every year, someone says: "Yes, in a year zagnetsya!". Such for the past five years there. But somehow still alive, so that any build any predictions about this to me hard. RS> Now on Spectrum hang a bunch of iron, what do you think about this? R7> I take it positively and himself not a single alteration hereunto set my hand. :) Most importantly, these alterations are not made lightly. In the classic version is not just a rework, and heaped all sorts of components such as ATM, Profi. That is a lot hardware bloat, which as a result nobody wants. More precisely, no one does not support. Another thing is that if any additional hardware freaks should be for something. Again, a beautiful thing - Finalization of 512 pixels horizontally. The same is the case, for example, for a terminal program, so if someone picked up and editor wrote ... But in principle, not what is written - that there is a long time that same ZX-Word remake? This is also useful for such things amazing. Accordingly, revision should be not just an end in itself, that: "I have here the devil knows that hung !"... RS> And what about the controversy with Peter, with Moscow, etc. What some want to hang modem on one port for each other. Yes, and the ports of memory expansion is always had incompatibility problems of software ... AND everyone defends their car, whether it is ATM, Profi, Scorpion or the Pentagon. R7> Yes, there is a struggle, I myself in this fight involved a lot of time and a lot of about this vehemently. Here's the deal: if it is correct to this approach, then .... it so, switching pages though the dials, but if you write some program that requires a lot of brains, do some external driver to switch pages and all. To a man whose absolutely non-standard scheme - something his thought, took the driver is altered, and all. Exactly the same thing with the modem. Standard internal modem is taken? So do the external driver, which deals with the fact that he has the procedure: register number of the modem to read, write. Everything! You have connected to other ports? Rewrite this external driver. Approach just need the right ... RS> The only thing that is now not just happen inside Hayes modems, which connect us. There are those that I find it hard to describe them ... R7> Yes, there CPSovskie modems. You see, this is too much his own. It is with their software est.Ya watched of course it is a miracle in Moscow. (T.e.CPSovsky modem) Yes, bleak, darkly ... This is an invention that no one on Figures do not need ... RS> not worth powder and shot ... R7> Yes. RS> Especially since Hayesy became cheap and available modems. R7> Yes, of course, but that there was no such wild differences, makes external drayverki. Incidentally, the same applies to file access. It would be nice to accept this as granted. Due to a very simple, let's screw ... RS> Speaking of screws. Some people who want to Spectrum not only to play and write demos, and more creative work, want to hang such as iron screw. As I understand it, your wiring diagram coincides with ATMovskoy ... R7> The situation is what? What is there scheme connection to the devil? There, a pancake, 4 buffer. Everything! More there's nothing there. Port numbers it's like God put per capita - can make any, if only there was no conflict. Another issue in the operating system ... Then there is a file system on the screw, what about it? In this regard, the most disgusting, that it was possible bungled because it's the controller screws on Scorpion'e ... Only the TR-DOS, and all! And then, since via .. ny! RS> You have a format? R7> Yes. RS> 0N supports TR-DOSnye disc ... I mean: TR-DOSnye files without any problems. R7> Yes! I have done, in contrast to Scorpion, its PZUshkoy. At the level of emulation VGshki, but it does not matter. RS> I very often see in muzykalkah label type: "Composed by Rst7". You really are still writing music? You still in funny writing in Protracker'e? R7> In principle, yes. Sometimes it is necessary. :) RS> What kind of games you like on the Spectrum? Your favorite, or that you even think is good? R7> On the Spectrum? Of the coolest toys that, in principle, all the latest toys which boiled 128-e ... With two screens, with pages ... It is not that just the memory load and everything, and it boiled 128-e. There all sorts of TOTAL RECALL, second and third ROBOCOP, EXTERMINATOR ... Well, here it is all because of the latter. Can be long remembered. They're actually all very cool. That is, they made the mother, with good approach. And what a way for a separate ... I also do not particularly play. RS> What is your favorite game? R7> general? RS> Yes. Although you do not play ... :) R7> You know, it pozhaluy STARTRACK. RS>:))) I wonder ... R7> But just the same ... Text that is on the IBM 360, 370. As you can batsat with punch ... :))) RS>:))) What is your opinion about the system software? R7> Hmm, everyone, for example, considers its Debt write ... RS> His assembler! ... R7> Yes. :) RS> :)))) felling ... R7> I'm talking about TASM. :))) This, of course, the rudder was such that .. RS> So is the whole saga! R7> Yes, this epic years and years ... RS> Since the first version ... R7> He was the first, and it was also an assembler. RS> After ZEUSa it was the best assembly. But tell me, the first TASM you wrote on ZEUSe? I know that many people back then wrote it in it. R7> In GENSe ... RS> In GENSe? ... ! R7> Yes, he wrote, was exactly in GENSe, although inside the assembler from ZEUS. ;) RS>:))) R7> I picked up and disassemble these 4 kilobytes! Well, in the mold I had to write an assembler, well, I tore ... But I have it figured out. I know how it works ... RS> 4 versions you have already written her completely? R7> No, the assembler where the same ... RS> And what about hash? R7> So this same procedure work with the table Tag! More there ... No, but of course there touched every optimization. Assembler there are enough speed. What else of the software programs? Perhaps, STS. RS> He is still considered the best ... R7> (offended) What is considered !!!?.. He is the best! You can call any other debugger? RS> No ... : ( R7> which allows you to do the same as that STS. I can think of something, let Scorpion'ovsky shadow monitor ... Well this is ... Sucks rare color! :))))))) RS> :)))))))) R7> Natural! :))) That is, in general, superklassnaya idea, but ... just disgraced themselves. Although I must say that I've seen yet debugger friend Sendetskogo ... (Sound of pouring beer) Sendetsky it to anyone not gave, because he's still with the hardware lotion works ... RS>!!! R7> There's even a debugger - a miracle! That is to It can do anything you want to do. For example, tracing where the hardware ... RS>!!! R7> Breakpoints are placed in hardware. That is, it does not affect memory in general! RS>!!! COOOOOL! ... R7> You do realize that this is enough. Anything you can do ... But Sendetsky not give it to anyone. At its two was a TR-DOS 5.01, when we SATISFACTION allowed, this debugger set a breakpoint on # 3D2F, and when she went toe to port # FF to write ... Notch! :))), The address must be substituted. :))) RS>:))) Cool! ... I have this here interesting question ... Now all started en masse connect the modem ... R7> I welcome this business! Long overdue! ... RS> In Moscow, as far as I know, it's a long time have already done. And the appropriate software written ... R7> Well, in Moscow, where all specific. They long fuck this CDOSovskim modem ... I, frankly, dumb about it remember. Understand how ... Of course FIDOrastizm - is a disease! ;))) On it and FIDOrast. :)) RS> Now there are many BBS, and general support ZXNet Spectrum directions. For example, we have in Kharkov X-PROJECT BBS. R7> Everything is cool, but! At one time I was very upset with the guys from FANTASY, when they are on your server ZXNet'ovsky posted fourth TASM ... Which was sold, was agreement with INFORCOMom, which I have it was bought ... They also have the same money back ... Well INFORCOM - this is also the one more company.:)) I had seen the price of 25 per tyrov ROM TASMom ... I almost lusnul! 25 tyrov - a 5 presidents ... Well, I think not is the secret of the fact that for TASM I got twice for $ 50 ... RS>:))) R7> Once in the third and once in the fourth. Stalker'u This was good more, he regularly receives $ 50. It produces versions of most ... RS> :))))) True, they do not always and not all work ... I have so far, starting with Version 5 is not everything works as expected, sometimes reset ... R7> He is always some bugs ... RS> Perhaps the most normal of all the versions I have is 4.4 and the older 3.3. R7> Yeah, like I use to STS3.2 to using the cache to do anything. Because the fourth - there balalaika when PZUshka off ... He has a keyboard procedures there climbs. :)) You have to use third STSom. What is the difference, nothing special as there is not added besides ... RS> Do you even seen the ZX-POWER? R7> Generally seen ... RS> Well, what is your opinion? R7> You see ... On the one hand, any DiskMagazine - a good thing, but there are too many to hell not need to "blizzard". RS> Which plan do you think? R7> In terms of, you know ... RS> Jokes? R7> Well, no, this is normal! Would have been even jokes are not the bearded ... RS> :)))) R7> Who ... :))) Which we have each other in kindergarten told. :)) No, I Of course, exaggerate, but the situation is. If a specific example, the question arises here in the fig in the ZX-FORMATe write about AMIGu? This is also the same as that start vindozu describe. RS>:)) R7> We are actually the same as a little idea attended bungled the newspaper ... RS> Specifically CODEBUSTERS? R7> Yes. She even had the name ... RS> What is it? R7> Well? MAJORWARES! There's even all of it is written, the entire span of hypertext, text formatter ... And I do magazines about I can say such a thing. Here at AMIGe, for example, such DiskMagazin'ov, live, so say, on stage now, there is probably about a hundred (!!!) pieces. RS> !!!/// R7> And about the same on the Commodore C64, which ... But Commodore C64 - it is generally a separate conversation. :) The elite wheelbarrow. By the way, if you read them, then we can a lot of things of value from there to subtract. RS>:))) You said in the newspapers a lot too much bullshit. What, in your opinion, should write about? .. For someone to write? For users or programmers and hackers? R7> Vovik, you know, what's wrong ... Any universal - it is, in general, fraught with consequences. If you, for example, begin to make a magazine that it was interesting read and full Lameroo and let me, I'm afraid it will not work. RS> You mean that you support the direction of ... R7> Well, yes, somehow have to keep the direction. Get at least ZX-Format, though SPECTROFON, though the same ZX-POWER, and a bunch there any ... (!) In principle, the same thing! Everywhere ... I think we should still try to differentiate, that is to choose a direction. RS> I understand. I like that like in these papers? Of course, no jokes and no public / private BBS, and information such as about iron ... Excellent article were about ZILOG and Z380 ... True, I do not remember what newspaper I read of it. Whether in ZXNews, whether in the ONLINE ... R7> By the way, ONLINE - a rare cool example of a good NYUSOVOY newspaper! So there HOTNEWS most IT! That's it! Fully understand the sections of the open / closed BBSki, about fresh WARES. Y She and style of presentation is as nyusovaya newspaper. In this regard, great! Since then, By the way, we all dragged ourselves with Andryusha Isaev ... At one time published in ONLINE Service & Support. And a man wrote this & Support is ... Not that we write in a newspaper, overview videos, namely rulno. Actors, film budget, on which nominations, almost not even those who translated the ... RULES! It may seem, what relation Service & Support has to Spectrum Newsome? :)) I also can say that next to Newsome Releases Toy kraknutyh ... And so on. Videovarez straight from the tin, too, because cool! :)) Also our people! :)) By the way, good movies I love to watch. RS> Obviously not soap operas. :)) We return to Demo ... What is the demo you would single out especially? R7> Pretty much from 97 ENLIGHT a I see from PROGRESSovskoy demushki. This is the one that SHIT FOR BRAINS. This is it! Guys, of course ... Guys, of course, chase the devil! They do not think that stairway to heaven can be a ladder to hell. :) Narkomanstvo yet to no good arguments. But deal! .. Me as doping is enough vodka dine. :) RS>:))) I see ... R7> No, well done guys do. There are, true, too ... RS> Which group do you think more keep afloat? Are doing something Real ... R7> The guys from PROGRESSa, they are in general, especially do not do anything. Of these commands very, very matter - it's DIGITAL REALITY. They're really much to do. And Well done guys, although, frankly, not everything they do .. But try! RS> Should I write a demo? Or at ENLIGHTe may be something to show more serious? Sistemki etc. R7> I mean, demomeykerskie PARTY held worldwide on different computers and etc. That must be the guys to come ... Beer, yes to vodka drink. There's also the people involved ... Take me. I do demomeykerstvom ... If you start to list what I do, then we must shut up in the toilet for two weeks ... And the list. And systems programming, and iron I do, and lots and lots of things and not just on Spectrum ... RS> I know that your skate not only programming. You're still a very good understanding of micro-and just in electronics. R7> I personally think is not particularly computer programmer, rather zhelezyachnikom. RS> What is most interesting, I too think so. :))) R7> I mean, programming - a collection of two dozen of some truths, which combining with each other, can be obtained here rezultat.A electronics - it is very serious thing, even though it's pretty much interconnected. RS> One other helps. R7> Absolutely! RS> In your work is also increasing knowledge? .. R7> Well, yes! RS> A few words say about ENLIGHT'96 and 97. R7> I personally at 96 was not present, so that ... RS> You mean it can just say something? You saw that people wrote ... R7> Yes, I saw a video with 96 ENLIGHT a. Well! 96 ENLIGHT general rulno leak! As I understand it ... 97 ENLIGHT ... people can not drink! RS>!!! R7> All drunk as a pig ... Yes, and the I actively participated! Stairway to heaven organized. Cannot scored ... RS>:))) R7> In general, as a party "to drink beer" all failed! Well, as organizational issues are addressed, I really did not like. RS> What do you think about 98 ENLIGHT a? R7> What do I think? RS> Are you going there? .. R7> I think: in general, would you?! .. RS> Yeah, it's understandable! ;) R7> Sobolev said: "Fuck you want? I This will not do. "All of his and sent three letters, what, in general, correctly did so. RS> On which machine you are working, on Pentagon'e? R7> Yes. RS> About TASMa we said ... That still there will be realized? There were long-awaited macros ... R7> Vovik do not know! If something is there and will finish, then ... TASM 4.12 - this latest version of the TR-DOSovskaya. There is a later version ... Now, not yet done, but will be made the object files, so to speak poluskompilirovannye. Libraries, etc. It is necessary to ... I sling ink quietly Turbo C. C compiler ... RS>!!! R7> Naturally, the linking of needs, the library etc. That is ... RS> Need support ... R7> Well, yes! In general, he has changed for the assembler will not. RS> Maybe some trivia ... R7> Yes, if something changes, so it some cosmetic finishing touch in the shell. RS> This version, I mean the fourth, already looks much steeper than the previous ones. Not mention of the possibilities ... Well done help, which is called an overlay ... R7> By the way, about helpa, Hussein did not made ... I asked him, well, Shura Kick documents on the Z80. His slip of hypertext helpu - nothing to do. There was also a wily, cunning plan. Do you make OTIR, mouse E / H. It is you on! Flags, all garbage! Which, incidentally, is very convenient. No, of course I know all team, and if desired, can no assembly programmirovat.No sometimes have to climb in the handbook, which flags to watch ... Until I still can not remember the type of LDI. As he where PO, PE, BC = 0 processes. I can not remember! :) In general, and FIG is not necessary, You can always look in the directory. But wanted it to be culturally ... RS> You have made a TASMe bit operations? R7> No he would not! Vovik, we need you debeshki as bits - write a macro! RS>:))) R7> Who will parse this a bit line. There are already some things are not going to take a matter of principle. In Specifically, work with bats. It's time for I think, damn binary, decimal, hexadecimal system ... RS> (resentfully) Well, it is clear, understandable ... R7> For example, I can manually RADIX50 transfer. :))))) RS> (Again offended) I got it! Simply write your plate ... R7> O Lord! 16 steps to learn! Is it's so hard! RS> Let's digress from the iron and bytes. Delve into your personal life ... Your hobby? Cutting fret? .. :)))) R7> Hobbies ... Hobbies ... RS> Drinking vodka? :))) R7> No, this is a way of life. Alcoholism - a profession. :) RS> As BG said, my life - a hobby. R7> Yes, I think something like that. RS> What kind of music do you prefer to listen to? Your favorite style ... Or direction. R7> Music should be good! .. Rock'n'Roll, Heavy, Doom, Death ... That is music, not gorlopanstvo! RS> Which is your favorite band? .. Metallica? R7> I think, still BEATLES. RS> And a few group is called. R7> BEATLES, Dirizhopli, Stones, Metallica to the same hits, DOOMovskie guys - My Dying Bride, Paradisy ... Yes, a lot of things. In all have some kicks! From shovels, so is, perhaps, different people ... Sasha Chernetsky - the same wheel! RS> Not to mention the Crematoria ... R7> Absolutely! RS> Dima, you love to drink besides water? :) R7> Ahh .. Beer, vodka, wine each ... Alcohol polyublyaem - corkscrew run. :) RS> You're not married? R7> No, not married. :))) RS> no plan and is not expected? R7> Yes, overboard! RS> You do not want to repeat my fate, and fate will soon befall MAXa IWAMOTO? R7> This case is ... It's still early to talk about ... Drink vodka necessary, vodka! :)) Razdolbaystvom do! RS> Where are you working on? R7> AAA ... It does not matter! RS> What would you like to see your work? .. Lying on the couch and drink vodka? ;) R7> Yes! :))) RS> :)))) R7> To razdolbaystvom could do with a clear conscience. Well, even so desirable, and the money to pay. :)) RS> I understand. :))) In TASMovskih commercial projects, you still earn money programming? R7> Sometimes the guys on the order of some I write software. This is mainly on pisyuke done. This is not money, so that the pocket a little bit dripped ... RS> Standard question! What are your plans for the future? .. Get plenty of beer? :))) R7> As in the song: "Another thirty years, and then ... " RS> That's right! :))))) R7> And in general: "We live in order to die tomorrow! ". But what are your plans?" There is not know that the evening will be! And some plans for the near future ... RS> OK! What suggestions would you like to give hackers and programmers on the Spectrum? R7> wish it alone - do not be a lamer! That's enough! :)) RS> It depends in whose eyes be lamer ... R7> Vovik, lamer even in Africa Lamer! The only thing that lamerizm - an incurable disease. Or maybe not, unfortunately. :)) RS> GOOD! I have exhausted all of their questions. Hopefully, people will be interested in this ... . . . Epilogue. "... Ten minutes later, the Soviet Beach came a strange man without a hat and in one boot. To anyone without contacting it said aloud: - No need to applause! Count of Monte Cristo I did not. Have to retrain in the superintendent. " I hope that this interview anyone would need and my "titanic labor "not in vain. I just want to add suggestions ZX-POWER, that if they all love it, I'm ready to become, in general, I want to become a freelance correspondent for them magazine. With best wishes and gratitude to readers Rst7 for the interview. (R) soft. Ed.: Correspondents, though regular, though freelance, we are pleased zavsegda ... ;) __________________________________________Интервью With KGS Inc. (C) X-Project Association _________________________________________ FROM THE EDITOR: In one hilarious vesenniyden in our town there were two nichemosobo not remarkable personality, poured-in seanmcsean large flow of visitors, turis-Tov and the Western invaders. :)) It seems that there is up to them to anyone no matter, chtotak they leave, after wandering for some vremyapo dusty and noisy streets, public transport and potolkavshisv poglazev nadostoprimechatelnosti Kharkov ... But etobylo not. They waited, not workers' ki customs, not employees of the criminal ro-zyska not ferocious controllers, and we waited - X-Project Association, in kachestvepochetnyh guests. Who were these visitors? Their names can be anything you will not tell you - this is not some venerable "Celebrity", not "monsters of the world ZX", (Yet), but who knows what they will tomorrow? ;)) And because the interlocutors they were interesting and fun, the editors magazine found it possible to provide Samples of these "talks" to the readers ... So, is - in front of us Evgeny Malkov (Tim Kelly) and Eugene Safronov (CrazyMan), representatives of the Donetsk Group KGS Inc. ZXP: Maybe we should start with a more detailed sentation, so to speak, introduc'inga your team ... Tim: Probably introduced. I, Tim Kelly, (E. Malkov) - organizer, manager, critic, idea generator, a screenwriter (not confused with the "scenery":) CrM: Eugene Safronov (CrazyMan) - basic Noah programmer group, generator and implementer of the ideas for the Protection of programs ... ZXP: That is to say, a central defender. :) Tim: At home, we left the other members of our Team: TashKey (Svetashev Vitaly) - critic musician, computer programmer, is the respect for isplay people in the group. Fester (Mikhalchenkov Andrew) - artist nickname of the programmer. Highlander (Didenko Dmitry) - program Mist, artist. Brother Highlander (Didenko Sergey) - prog rammist, like his brother. The overall age composition - 151 year average average age - 27 years. ZXP: Wow, 151 a year! Just think! This confirms the fact that the Spectrum all ages "...:)) But you Still fairly young team Platform ZX, when you "started"? Tim: Our group was formed in autumn-winter 1996 from the core group of Golden Studio and who joined us a few programmers. ZXP: KGS somehow stands for? Or is it secret? Tim: Why the secret? Title Search held long and hard for this reread all available Fantasy cally literature. Was selected as a author and invited eleven wa invariants of group names, of which joint effort was selected graduate flax version of "The Knights of Ghosts and Shadows Inc. ", in other words KGS Inc. ZXP: Sounds somewhat "afterlife", but I pa zocharovan - I had thought that this KGS - an analogue of the KGB or MVD ... :))) CrM: Then we would talk to you in elsewhere and at other times. :) ZXP::-o But I had not thought ... :) But now, I think it's time to acquaint the readers with your figure completely. Tim: Ready joint project of the Art Work Cre ative Group and KGS Trading Department - The game "Mirror" reported with battle alloy vast experience Spectrum electric adventyurostroeniya and their own ideas. Although "joint project" - is loudly said, we still take in him a small part. Was written for a bunch of small utilities, including those on the PC. Especially for those who does not have access to a computer Network fidonet we prepare ezhene individual newspaper "The Mirror Fido", which Heaven is nothing but as correspondence in conferences REAL.SPECCY and ZX.SPECTRUM, prepared lennuyu and executed properly to be read without any hindered tions relating to architecture Speck ki. Getting ready for the following products: ZX-Windows (this is only a working title) - an operating system similar to the Windows 95. This is an analogue to Spectrum'e (Proemulirovany even its glitches and brakes ;). But seriously, this system is written in order to make it more convenient user interaction with the computer. "A story on senses" - Interface text adventyura with a fantastic story. "The Throne of the Emperor" - the game RPG-style contains in itself more than two thousand of locations, many operating independently of Player objects, sea charts. For distribution of copyright products has been created KGS Trading Department - department dealing with management, trading, market research programs for the ZX-Spectrum and support "Vitchiznyanogo virobnika" (for not knowing Ukrainian language - a domestic manufacturer.) Established commercial contacts with XL-Design, Copper Feet, Famous Faces Factory, X-Project Association, and many others. ZXP: By the way, the demo version of "The Mirror" I form cases, even more than that - I took it. It is quite exciting, and if the full version at the same level playing "With our vdovolstviem" ... CrM: Full version and more refined quality superior to the demo. ZXP: Well, it pleases, but the theme demo ver sions, we'll come back, but for now let's talk about things more global and I would even say, philosophical. Than for you to do is Spectrum, CA something in your life it takes? Tim: Although I represent here all my command, but the "sign" for all I will not, myself I can tell, that for me the Spectrum - more than a computer is my hobby, kind of Creativity, part of the soul ... CrM: About myself I can say the same thing, I Speccy dedicate all my spare time. ZXP: But in parallel you are doing and races propagation of software ensure of how do I know? Tim: We also get more software sales made precisely these reasons - the desire to "Stretch Th Spectrum of "nothingness" does not give him to "die". It's no secret that the "pirates" and some hackers efforts slowly violate copyrights, otbi curve from the authors any desire to work further. We only deal with Lega lnym distribution of programs, hundreds of rudnichaya directly with authors and urge to do the same and others. ZXP: Yes, today it is very, a very urgent problem, I think many had to deal with "Piracy" in many parts of this is considered quite normal. K Unfortunately, and Kharkiv is not used exception - here you will not find a practical virtually any authoring version except, perhaps, local. Causes here are many: it nenalazhennaya Us with authors, and the presence of some soft to say, moral monster, spitting copyright, and neprosveschen sequence "of the majority of users from with respect to legal and "pirate" Disc ... But I think your examples results and we will try to fix there sponding situation. CrM: Well, always glad to help. ZXP: What about your "taste" in the ocean? What programs do you expect read? CrM: I like to play. Tim: I, too, mostly sticking igro curve themes ... ZXP: So you think that the important thing is that keeps Spectrum afloat - is game? Tim: Yeah, we all decided to start a series of u rovyh projects since the last too little appears game NIS, particularly interesting. All poche Therefore, something stuck on the logical and "Dizzeobraznyh" games, and yet there there exists a lot of other, less developed genres. ZXP: Your opinion on the development prospects game programs? Tim: I think that in creating the basic game role is still not a financial factor torus, and enthusiasm. So the prospects rather optimistic. :) ZXP: What do you think about the demo ver sions games? It often happens that goes Demo, it all starts briskly smack one's lips in anticipation of a new su per-game and full version and does not goes ... CrM: Yes, some of them already believe that the de model version does not need, they say, the law Chita first, and then release the de model version. But we still follow Xia different point of view: demo needed. Firstly, it is information for software vendors, and secondly, the user can assess the level of the program and have an idea about its quality. In addition, the demo version are also role of the news - it's nice to know that Life on the Spectrum seething vengeance that people are doing something. ZXP: Have you ever tried to do demomaking'om? Tim: No, we believe it is a waste time. Of course, this is a matter of taste, so if someone likes similar Noe pastime, it is their right, but our group had such an air Creativity was not engaged and not planning induces in the future. CrM: For me as a programmer, the only but interesting are the ways implementation of these effects in megadem'ah ... ZXP: What do you consider ENLIGHT, FUNTOP? Tim: As a way of communicating with spektrumistov the CIS. ZXP: Finally a question: your relations of the electronic journals? Tim: Until such time as we did not have "Exit" in the FIDO and INTERNET, magazines were our only source of information. Now, however, our relative solution to computer magazines remain elk same, perhaps only in a somewhat different perspective, after all, journalists ly a change, from a news source they are transformed into a special kind of art properties. So it is very necessary and Our highly acclaimed. CrM: At one time we ourselves would like vypus tit magazine, even the name priduma Do - WONDERLAND, but for some with ranks, he never came out ... ZXP: Well, on behalf of the magazine and our readers carriers would like to wish your group success in his difficult work. Tim: Thank you, same to you, I hope not Last time we meet ... ZXP: Maybe, who knows? ;)) __________________________________________
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