Deja Vu #05
31 мая 1998

Topic - Project recovery and development stage.

<b>Topic</b> - Project recovery and development stage.
SoundTrack: COMPOSED BY DJ.DARKMAN / SERIOUS
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(C) Viator of AVALON
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    Draft recovery and development stage.

            (Continued. ..)



         1. HOW IT ALL STARTED ...



   For those who do not remember or never heard of
what is at stake, I will give brief information
about the project and its basic idea:

   I am not in any way claim to the right
usurping any merit in
SPECCY development and general scene in the CIS. All
what is said here and in the first part - is intended only to 
give impetus to this development ... 

   So ...

   Everything started about a year ago, approximately in 
February-March 1997. Driven by a desire to help the scene and 
merge all of its residents, I wrote an article that described

"Save Our Speccy". Its general meaning is reduced
to the fact that if we want to preserve the scene
it is necessary to unite all the "writing"
people in a single association that would address global 
distribyutsiey their work. 

   The text was a part of our synopsy
"OPERA ...", which began to distribute
at the turn of 1997 and 1998.

   Paper is only a sketch, a total
idea and its main purpose was - to attract
attention to the scene to this problem. Which later was 
achieved. 

   I was pleased and even a bit surprised
so that the ideas expressed therein, have been actively 
supported by the "residents" of the scene. Has been received 
many letters and reviews for the cooperation. In addition, FIDO 
and ZX-networks intensified arguments on

this topic.

   In parallel, there was an organization of association
Amazing Soft Making. Which is also planned as one of the ways 
the project ... 

   Now (end of February 1998) I decided to collect and collate 
the information received and to tell everyone about their views 
on the development of the project. That is what all the 
following text. 

   Whether you're a man or stsenovoy advanced user, I recommend 
that you carefully and thoughtfully read everything, because 
all what is written here applies to a person

You. Perhaps these ideas are very beneficial
affect the whole computer scene and to
You personally ...

   So ... Good luck!


      2. CURRENT SITUATION ON STAGE



   Constantly there is a set of new and
strong teams who are willing to write a good soft in unlimited 
quantities. Or not? :-)


   The overall level of programs is growing steadily. This 
applies not only to the trial stage, but to all the emerging 
soft-ware. Or everything else? :-)


   The main motivation is still the art for the sake of art and 
excitement of competition. Or am I wrong again? :-) 

   Is a very positive association and
cooperation between different platforms. Replaced bylomu 
confrontation comes confluence of different platforms. Groups 
are not moving to more powerful machines, and work together on 
them. Just look on what is now the scene SPECCY and AMMY is 
almost of the same bands! I totally agree with vyskazanym on

magazine "DEJA VU # 02" AA Strelnikov: "... we do not AMIGA, PC 
or SPECTRUM - and the computer." After all "residents" of all 
these platforms are practically identical, and the challenges 
and problems. Therefore, the association and a similar project 
of relevance to all soon. In Therefore, it would be logical to 
change the name of the project on the Save Our Scene. 

   Again, you do not agree with me? :-)

   And now for some of the negative stsenovyh features:

   Fragmentation of all producers and
users. Lack of regular information about the current situation 
at the scene. Even not all have access to networks

(And the vast majority of it has
in general) are not provided with timely information about 
existing groups and their activities. Having tens and even 
hundreds of electronic journals and newspapers, the scene could 
not give the user an overall picture of cases. Most of the 
demos, short stories for new games, etc. never catches the eye 
of all user'am. None who are not able to find and read

this mountain of information. Much more comfortable
would, apart from all other publications have one,
entirely devoted to the projects created
edition.

   Well, with this you surely agree! :-)



     3. What does a do it yourself

              "Residents" SCENE



   In general, the received letters and phone calls
(All a huge thanks!), Was to
support the idea. All interested in what
they can do for the project.
All consider it necessary to create
distribution network and community, as
software vendors and users alike. Everybody wants to write new 
programs and receive for their well-deserved reward. And all 
interested in questions like "How to join the Association? and 
"What exactly FROM ASSUME IT WILL REPRESENT? ".


   Here is an excerpt from a letter ALOS'a junior'a
of a group of SPARK (I think many people know them
demo version of the game "Town"):
"We need to create an organization, the cause of
that we are in the same hole, like many
people doing something for SPECTRUM'a! Now, for example, over 
the "Town" work goes on, because there is no incentive. Just 
because no one wants to do, not BRAINMAN, no FOX, no A-GraPh, 
as well as I do. But, if you knew that to earn something, then 
the game would have already done at a high level.. "Similar 
feedback set. Virtually every group stepped up its activities 
by paying their labor. 

   Unfortunately, I do not have the opportunity to participate 
in the discussion draft on the network, but with the help of 
friends from the scene, in particular SQUIZER'a of X-PROJECT, I 
got fairly complete picture of the coming

there discussions.

   With some of the views expressed can not agree on everything 
100%, but I understand that all who take part in discussion, 
seek only to help SPECCY, under discussion will be to elect

the most ideal option.

   Thus, the most concrete proposals
put forward Andrei Savchenko and Sergey Novikov.

   Generally, they offer redistribute
soft through computer networks, when
each user sends a fixed
amount to the firm, and regularly receives
All new arrivals. All programs are sent to him via the network. 
The money divided among all the authors, the works

which distribyutiruyutsya Association. Piracy and lack of 
participation in the association (indifference to the fate of 
the stage) is proposed to eliminate threatened that all these 
"comrades" will be denied the right to publish in el.izdaniyah, 
participate in contests and ignored the scene. 

   Not to mention, and the activities of
ASM, which can be directed to the benefit of the project:

   Association Amazing Software Making, one of the organizers 
and I am, has a similar project orientation. But, so far

that it lacks the global reach and proactive
activities. In addition, it focuses
more help in the creation of programs than
on their distribution. (Assistance is to coordinate joint 
projects, many groups and participants, and in supplying the 
missing program material). I believe that

it can enter into the overall development project
scene as one of coordinating the activities of groups of 
centers, helping to launch new program that's just and will 
distribyutirovatsya obschestsenovoy Association. 


    4. MY COMMENTS ON THIS DRAFT



   I agree with the majority expressed by
towards the project, words. I am very grateful
all those who embrace it. And here are some
things I'd like to clarify and discuss with you ...

   Soft'a spread the word on the network - very
conveniently, economically and quickly, but you need to take 
into account the factor that is very Many users do not have 
access to the network. This is especially true spektrumatorov. 
So I think that would be appropriate to spread the word 
parallel programs, such as through electronic networks, as well 
as by mail, in the latter case, the amount of contribution 
would be somewhat above, because of the cost of postage and 
floppy disks. 

   Try as prisecheniya illegal proliferation of programs, 
restrict the rights of the offender at the scene - useful but 
we must acknowledge that the perpetrators and usually do not 
seek to participate in contests and publish their thoughts in 
the electronic media. Overwhelming majority illegal users who 
have never participated in an active stage of life. Therefore, 
the main incentive to participate in the project, to purchase 
his programs - should be obvious benefits given by the project. 
Thus, All groups should be involved in the natural ability to 
work and earn their work a decent fee, and respected

users - the ability to quickly and regularly receive all the 
best programs "First hand" and feel that their money

are the author's name.

   I liked the suggestions above Sergey Novikov and Andrei 
Savicheva on how to avoid distribyutirovat programs 
individually, and distribute the monthly collections for the 
fixed contributions. Indeed, it is easier and faster to send

all the standard collections of software than
breed confusion with the orders, and various
cost and stuff. Thus, any
people will be able to simultaneously receive all
stsenovoe "nove" for the month. The only
division, which I recommend to enter -
This division of soft'a into three categories:
games, systems, demos. Naturally, each
on its own price. So you can avoid the frustration of users over
the fact that they slip completely unnecessary things. Who 
wants to - will be signed once on all three headings, someone 
chooses only what interests him. I think that

even the heading "demos" will have plenty of fans. :-)

   Authors will receive compensation from
general fund. In this case, the payment amount depends on the 
extent and quality product. And, of course, though, on how many

Participants will have the project.

   About the fact that you will receive
collections, even without knowing exactly the content,
in some way to buy a pig in a poke "
You can say this - in any case -
this will be the best thing that comes to
stage. Also, you will always have an idea about the program 
content of the advertising media project. And in general, - 
creators soft'a not masochists, and do not intend to cut branch 
on which sit - they are the first all interested in 
establishing just quality work and in the shortest possible 
time. :-) 

   Nobody wants to write endless
databases and spreadsheets, to write more interesting toys, 
videos, demos :-) :-) :-)!


   Has not yet been made specific proposals about who exactly 
will take over responsibility for organizing and coordinating 
the project. Of course, one person with it can not cope. And 
indeed, all in your own hands! On support Did you this idea and 
the success of venture and even, in many ways the fate of the 
scene in the CIS! 

   So. The first concrete proposals:



         5. SPECIFIC PROPOSALS



   One way or another, but someone needs to take
everything in his hands. To be honest, I do not burn
particular desire to do it, but, fearing that no one will dare 
to take on such responsibilities, I agree to coordinate at this 
stage, the base association in support of the scene. 

   Do not you agree? You want and can all
do better? - In that case I will gladly agree to the coordinator
SOS was just you! After all, I an artist, an encoder and a bit 
of writer :-) and not prodyuser and manager. But someone must 
take the first step, not stagnate, expressing controversial 
opinions, but nothing without taking.


   So. I propose to participate in the writing of the 
constitution and in discussing all the nuances. In First of 
all, I beg you, yes, it is YOU! Send me (if you thought that

$ 10, you me with someone confused :-) simple application that 
you or your group willing to participate in SOS. Can send

free-form, and can in the form of the questionnaire:

1. First / Last Name / Alias ​​/ GROUP:
2. Accurate and detailed ADDRESS + PHONE:
3. UP ON STAGE:
4. NEED A project like SOS?
5. What do you want by participating in missile defense
   EKTE (new programs and / or DISTRIBYUTSIYU

   Own projects):
6. YOUR OBJECTIVE OPINION ON ADMISSIBILITY

   PRICE FOR MONTHLY COLLECTION PROGRAMS

   Each category (GAMES, SYSTEMS, DE
   MOS). Please specify the amount, which
   RUYU READY TO PAY JUST YOU AND BE IN

   THIS judiciously. Amounts are

   IN DOLLARS:
7. PROGRAMME what platforms you want at
   Has gained / create:
8. IF YOU ARE GOING TO THEIR DISTRIBYUTIROVAT

   Work through associations, Gara
   Commutes YOU THEIR HIGH QUALITY AND SC
   KIE APPROXIMATE AMOUNT OF YOUR WORK (PE
   List the) you want to receive:
9. What do you wish AND OFFER

   DRAFT Save Our Scene:
10.VERITE YOU IN REALITY PROJECT (YES /

   NO): I - YES!



   This will be the best way to determine
all aspects of the development proekta.I, most importantly, 
give an accurate representation of the current situation. This 
is not an official registration. It can be done only when will 
be ready to discuss charter and all the nuances. This is only a 
first step toward the goal! 

   Of course, I can not guarantee that
will satisfy the needs of all written, but your opinion will 
definitely be taken into account and affect the final results.


   Also, I can not promise that the answer
All letters, it is physically impossible. Therefore, if you 
send the answer on the discs, I does not guarantee that they 
will return back to you! Apologize in advance! 

   Please send your answers in any comfortable
format you require, you can respond to the questionnaire did not
Briefly, on the contrary, the most detailed and
fully (on both sides of a sheet or
double-sided discs :-)).


       Now we have ability to make some nuances:

   I believe that it is appropriate to attach
the project and ASM, as I have suggested. In addition to 
distribution and to help authors to create their own projects. 
Preliminary articles of association ASM I enclose to the text. 
Interested in your opinion, and on this occasion. By the way, 
some of the items of the Charter of beta ASM, can be used as a 
baseline for SOS. 


   Important and controversial aspects of that
need to discuss are: harmonization of the laws of the 
association acting in the CIS, a way to enumerate money from 
users to producers and from producers to the authors, the best 
way to send programs by mail and through electronic networks, 
the selection criteria soft'a and estimate of the amount paid 
by the authors that his own work will receive prodyussery 
associations and much more ... 


   One way or another, but the project is to advertise and to 
acquaint them with the users. Even our DeMouy "HALLUCINATIONS 
IN OPERA", can be considered as advertising the product. After

thanks to her, many interested in the project and encouraged me 
to continue this idea, instilled in me optimistic! THANKS!


   Therefore, it is desirable to be all your actions on the 
development of the project - from writing advertising dem up a 
simple conversation on this topic with friends. Take action

now! The fact that we live in countries with slow-witted by the 
Government and the dismal economic situation does not mean that 
we can not do everything to make our favorite thing flourish! 
:-) 


   And more ... If you are ready to engage directly the 
activities of the association, if you appreciate the scene and 
want to act on the benefit of her and himself by becoming 
prodyuserom project - contact with mnoy.Ya give you the results 
of the survey, the draft charter and other material "because 
I'm only willing to collect the material at the initial stage. 
Must know everyone what they can do

now.

Please, if discussions would be conducted
project in the network and electronic media - for
possible, inform me about them.

                 Please!



          How to contact me:


             250005 Ukraine

               Chernigov,

               Kievskaya Str,

               dom.6, kv.34

        Onishchenko, Viktor / VIATOR

           tel. (04622) 5-36-08

   (Please - call on holidays or

            weekend :-).


     Contact the producer of ASM:


          335040, Crimea, Ukraine

              Sevastopol

               ul.Hryukina,

                d.3, kv.44

       Kosychenko Anatolia / MIGHTY

           tel. (0692) 57-57-80



   Now, I am pleased to convey greetings
and thanks to those who have already expressed interest in the 
project! : 


               MIGHTY / SMASH

               GRUNGE / SMASH

            SOI / CRYSTAL DREAM

            SQUIZER / X-PROJECT

            ALOS JUNIOR / SPARK

        Sergei Novikov (SPIRIT / DR)

              ANDREW SAVIC

             ALEXANDER HOFMAN

            ETERNITY INDUSTRY

                 BEERMANS

                 OUTLAND

                  BYTEX

                  ENTIRE

                  FL VBI

              SILICON BRAINS


Of course, all RUSH 'ASM, and all others!


   This text is designed for mass
proliferation and use. Welcome its publication in the email. 
magazines! 


   See you on the platform A / BOX!!! Joke!
Though in every joke there is some ... hope. :-)



       Take action now!

               GOOD LUCK!

February 25, 1998




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