Adventurer #14
30 июня 2003

Scene - an interview with the Power Of Sound taken on CAFe'2002.

<b>Scene</b> - an interview with the Power Of Sound taken on CAFe'2002.
Interview with POS
elph / CPU

Came from the Izhevsk
a lot of people, but to collect them
All turned out to be almost unreal. I decided to talk at least
with some people who have
relevant to their demo.

Elf> I've looked in Izhevsk and
your field in general burst of activity is observed. Do you 
think what it is connected and what general plans for your 
teams to future of those present here, what can you say?


Himik's ZxZ> of us specifically
present here, well, I am
mind from Izhevsk, say so:
Group PoS-WT, which structure
includes several additional
teams, in particular, this RGI, which were now in the demo
compo, as well as the present author
newspaper "Izhnews", the last
rates which began to receive high ratings ...

Elf> But for some reason it is very long
was not.

Himik's ZxZ> Yes, its a very long time
was not. Just a person is
drastically changed attitude to life. Ie people have not scored 
at Spectrum, he was not opposed. We told him

put a new PC entirely,
collected everything done an excellent
Comp. Just had finally appeared in the life of a fracture. He 
has a girlfriend, job, ie earlier it was the usual, shall we 
say apprentice, who was sitting behind

Speck, and now he's just been
grown. These 2 people - KIM
and MS from the group of RGI, they all nakodili DeMouy that 
today was presented by us here. With what

related burst of activity? Well,
say this: today was the deme,
which was released in conjunction
teams of X-Team and HOAX, but I
I want to note that HOAX - it
group in general from one person, such tusovka one person at 
all. A X-Team, it you know, like people who are strange, they 
have it today, 2, Tomorrow 5, then 4, then 6, well

Generally, a virtual club ...

Elf> Some of them are today?

Himik's ZxZ> They do exist, but they left today for the station 
to get tickets, I think. Hence, the main goal from a random 
conversation ... They said: "We would like to compete with 
RGI". So it says about anything? while some people write what 
for them has not been achieved once they next compo, the next 
party they want to pass the ways through which we have. Ie they 
try to compete with us already. And this, accordingly, is 
trying to raise those people, they begin to work. They

exactly the same 2 nights no sleep kodili all this DeMouy. But 
with only one goal-to become better, become

steeper, try to take some
position. I think they got it because it works, which were 2 
years ago from them, are very different from what we saw today. 
But now it was There are 6 demos, I

I think that the team X-Team is among them, perhaps one
of the top places. Not least because
that they are novices. Learner is in
party demo compo. Their first attempt - it was in ASCII
Of 2001, but, unfortunately, not
just had to write it. She was out of compo, but it could be
compete fairly well,
here. And that, say, officially their first job, just in party, 
it was unfinished today, so to speak, behind the scenes

here. My opinion is that they do
worthy of the boys, though they certainly were young (ambitions
very much) for something of yourself out there
trying to put more than
they really are. All through
this pass.

Elf> Tell me specifically about the
PoS-WT, what are your plans, you have
going once myself demo
stage show?

Himik's ZxZ> Here, recent developments, which were, as if they
knocked us out of a rut ...

Elf> You mean like "Totoro",
I understood.

Himik's ZxZ> Not only
"Totoro". Say "Totoro" was
just the last straw. The last straw was the fact that
it is, well, just hypocrisy. Here they are
argued that the publicity. I
I understand that the publicity - is when I say to someone and 
say, what I did. When I say

that did it, or rather talking about
someone bad, but does not say who
did it guys are publicity, it's just a blizzard and drove
all, say so. Ie man
have an opinion, but he does not sign who he is. Since I am the 
holder of this site, goes through me, most software, which all 
laid out there, I have it all look. 80% of the information, it 
is unworthy to see those people are normal, so to speak,

ordinary users who
see themselves as normal people. I mean, when you run a 
newspaper, and it begins with a mat, with insults with insults, 
not only you as a reader with abuse of these same authors,

which lowered themselves by saying that we are scum, we are 
goats, we are scum. I think that scene

spectrum'ovskaya, she lives in the stereotype of youth thinking.

Elf> Well, it is in principle present. Young people have.

Himik's ZxZ> Yes, that's it, it
simply show the view of young people. If young people do not
respects herself, she has no respect for standing next to 
anyone. Well, just that it would ruin everything.


Elf> You know, I think people
themselves will understand that they are interested
what is right, what does not. And yet
I believe that young people will focus on the work of people 
who have a proven track record somehow. And the same "Totoro" 
and "Lamergy", as they proved themselves? -Nothing!


Himik's ZxZ> Well, "Lamergy" proved to be the only
the fact that it's still a great disguise, and as statistics 
showed a lot of writers who are beginning to mow, that is, 
there was someone's idea is to create, prove so nameless edition

without any of the authors. Many picked up
this idea. Someone has to bear it
positive energy, someone
negative. Unfortunately, as
always, in any, even fairy tales
Russian folk, the advantage
goes over evil. But in the end
good wins. I think that
probably, PoS will not close
for some time. First, he will probably still put up an action
protest. About cleaning
spectrum'ovskoy scenes from dirt,
which is in the press, even in
games, we now run, for example, Dizzy out there, I do not 
remember specifically part: "I went and sat on the

Asshole, "and so on and so forth. I'm
in the game, and maybe I have a child playing - it makes no 
difference at what competent to play him that the pope gave at-

how he plays. Nevertheless, he
learns about it, he had them
sees, and two years in kindergarten
or comes to school and starts
all put out, it is morally and
another 10 years, he has just sit down for the first time, it 
is thorough sit.


Elf> Well, as I understand, the best
confrontation - do their
releas'y some quality?
It is with this and was your deme
connected?

Himik's ZxZ> Yes, our deme was
associated with catastrophic protest against abuse, it is 
impossible even. Izhevsk, like, not such a big city, I'm sorry, 
but you come - at each entrance strewn syringes. We have a 
transit city, through its 80% of the drug in

Russia falls.

Elf> Whose was the basic idea to make such DeMouy?

Himik's ZxZ> KIM'a main
idea.

Elf> He is here today?

MS> Yes, here he is, walked away.

Himik's ZxZ> The fact that this
DeMouy, in truth, is embedded
soul of a man who was able to
All transfer, this is not done unfounded, it is not made of 
fantasy, from books, this is the human body, soul and brain-all 
moved on myself. We do not say, who exactly, but the fact that

deme is built on real, so to speak, on real facts
off rights on their own just by drinking
drugs. Accordingly, a person in a few years begins
he fight against it. Although, occasionally, by a youth hit.

Elf> Clearly, it is always good
when everything goes crazy.

Himik's ZxZ> It's great when a person is himself able,
moreover, have chosen, but also
is, say, all possible combat this scourge. We have won a man 
walking home at 12 at night, on the head ogreli club, pulled 
from his pocket a purse of 60 rubles. This did not someone 
other than the scumbags who can not afford some dose. Because 
it was done in the area of ​​freaky, 2-3 point in the same 
house, in a stairwell. 

Elf> At the same time thugs who represent themselves from the 
police, robbed M00hA 2000 rubles yesterday to the 
detoxification center. 

MS> Yes, he has no one any money
did not pick up, it before ...

Elf> No! We have had 600 or
800 rubles, while he was still hidden in 2000.

MS> Ah-ah-ah!

Elf> We have something they were not found, but they
found it!

Himik's ZxZ> comments?
Comment on this can be completely different. Starting from the 
social status of an employee, but nevertheless, when a person 
is not gives a reason - to him nothing happens.


MS> When a man goon - he
redneck ...

Himik's ZxZ> Choi sang: "Follow
yourself, be careful! ". That is in
all mistakes, all the problems
that occurred specifically with
me, with Muhom with anyone,
specifically to blame yourself. If
I was standing in the doorway, and drink immediately, already 
being none, are sucked into a last there, two bottles

beer, and I still blows, then
I'm still waiting for something. If
would it not have cops here, well
fuck knows well, he drank
that money would have lost anyway
someone had stuffed his face. Yes
He is no! Or, yes, he is in the best
the case would take, bombanulsya, smashed his head and all.

Elf> Well, okay. And you can say: the real Spectrum'e some of 
you still waiting for the next release? Ie recently a pair of 
dem byla. 

MS> Most likely this is the last
our release in general.

Elf> Why is that?

MS> This is due to the fact that we are moving towards a 
platform PC ... 

Himik's ZxZ> We are trying to pass. In parallel, we want to
climb just theirs scene, you know? Us, shall we say, more than 
20 years, in the end, and we need to know the other world, 
because Spectrum'u that for 20 years, we

gave him a few years of our
age, we can not say that it is
bad computer, there are bad
people, but at any stage will
They both are. We're just trying myself
develop further. In the end
people need to actually make.
At Spectrum'e make impossible. Spectrum fascinated by simply
our soul. We put him in just his hobby. We
here come not only to
to perform, we are even willing to
were removed from our demonstration
compo, to speak outside the compo, just to show the theme.
We do not care what it takes
place, we do not care how it will
there ... someone, maybe it will fachit, someone will bless
it does not matter. It is important that people understand its 
internal structure, her idea, which it carries. Unfortunately, 
our people 90% of the assessed visually. This is the bad. 
Because we already cease to think. We already live an ordinary 
task. We look, we have deme, we have five dem, we do

must, roughly speaking, to compare.

Elf> No, well, like ... comprehension of all
still comes later. Here, on the party
all designed for visual effect, drive - few are able to 
understand the idea the first time, especially if it does not 
lie on the surface. 

Himik's ZxZ> And we can not so.
We just sit at home when we do not
see how it will be visually
look, we think that we
into it. This is natural, but
I think it looks good,
realtime morphing labels even with
Paint the inside.

Elf> Well, podzatyanuto a little bit ...

Himik's ZxZ> Excuse me, this is
Still realtime, and if realtime, then still have time
to miscalculations. In one INT does not climb,
then consider a 5, 6, 7, the
Still it is all just
by the processor that there
worth it. In this case, it certainly was AMD, Athlon'chik.
Heh heh ... Well, yes, Spectrum in our
this case sucked away. Sucked away in the
the sense that we are still running it all on an emulator, 
which sucked away and the sound ... 

Elf> This is very bad at ...

Himik's ZxZ> And the video sucked well
simple. First, the MMA enabled
Hardware gigascreen ie mixing of the two screens, there is no 
flicker. 

Elf> How different? Then another
not done.

Himik's ZxZ> The projector will not pull. Understandably. But 
still Still, what can I do. It is a pity that no

came Comrade Hacker Kay-Mr.
Cyril from Moscow, because
they would, I believe, brought the original release of his Z80 
stealth, it's our guys from Team Power of Sound. They would run 
the emulator here, he would have no way sucked away because 
They made it a special video mode, it pulls everything. He 
fully emulates the Pentagon, he has excellent sound, simple and

time was not enough. Specifically on the
party, to eternal party arises
question. Party in my opinion is quite normal, ie
normal in the sense that
Still, it is that here
came to many people, despite
the fact that Kazan is not a city
where many people want to merge, I think that Peter would come 
to more people, but Kazan rocks.


Elf> Yes, but, of course, technical
software upsets.

Himik's ZxZ> Technical support, it is frustrating. There
problems, but you know, I was not on
other get-togethers.

Elf> I have been there. I believe that
here is the worst sound of all
party, where I was.

Himik's ZxZ> Cafe - mark old
I do not remember what year, 99-second or
Of 2000, but there were quite
others, there was only
mark. These people took the first
times. Pasha was, I do not know what to get-togethers, he was, 
he was on SS, but still present and

organize - are two different things.
I organized the ASCII 2-nd. I
nearly opupel, simply. A
night, I just vomit, naturally. Although I did not drink. I 
vomit because I was tired of straining such. That KIM. KIM, say,

something.

Elf> I want to ask you first, what are your plans further, the 
Spectrum'e, in the future? 

KIM> On Spectrum'e? Plans are,
have an idea to write some
geymovy serious project, but
the only thing that kills me,
this is who needs it, who to me
is the answer.

Elf> Well, you see, if it is not necessary
you mean it does not need anyone.
Most importantly, as you write.

KIM> I would like to write a good game. At Spectrum'e will 
work, I will. We have completed a good PZU'ha for 
Specrtum'a-128, now, rather only to end one of the logic games, 
such an old, simple game, which will be written in a month.


Elf> Why logical?

KIM> I just like coder, love
a very logical game, and therefore
I consider it necessary to release this game, and it will 
probably a maximum of six months, she was like would be ready 
by 80%. 

MS> It may come only
If we find the artist's normal to draw level.

KIM> But work on Spectrum'e
will be accurate.

Elf> You are here to party not tried to approach different 
people, teams, what about artists? 

MS> We have i-net is a chemist, so we are more or less in
aware of all the things that happen on stage.

KIM> Well, what can I say? Cafe rulezz. Cafe 03 if I
there will be exactly. And our group there
will be there.

MS> is possible to make DeMouy
pc.

KIM> MS do not know, but most likely it will be there still 
under Spectrum, because the Spectrum,

it is for the soul from me. Therefore,
Spectrum will always be.

Elf> No, well hang on, on the PC you intend to engage in purely 
commercial activities? Or Still demomaking'om?


MS> We are still trying to put myself pisyuki and conduct 
multi-faceted life. Firstly, demomaking - it's more for the 
body, soul and brains. Most master process - is to exert

brains to make them think.
And something else for some
commercial purposes. In the end, the same pisyuk, it requires 
money, the same I-net, it requires money, nobody from the sky 
is not yields. We must get by combining business with pleasure.


Elf> But do not you think, for example,
demomaking'om engage in
Spectrum'e, and earn money on the PC?

Himik's ZxZ>> a moot point.
Generally, we planned to say
so do quiet work in the
Spectrum'e for themselves. Ie I was sitting,
come up with any thing, yes, and
I write. I pre-configure itself,
I do not care about the opinions of others.
I write it just myself. I have it I can
someone send ...

Elf> In this bad, I feel nothing.

Himik's ZxZ>> I do not think that
this is something bad, I'm just going to
know in advance that I will not be any of
anyone expect anything good, and not
get from anybody no wrong.

MS> Just obtained some interesting chips when you write
something, say, for myself, one
out of 1000 asks you to:
"Listen, this is the same thing, it's me
necessary, I'll juzat her. "You give
it to public use, and you here for this one man thanks,
and 250 people - fuck! It is for this
thing: "You're a freak, you do not know how to write an 
interface, you do a goat!" 

Elf> No, normally do not say is usually constructive
criticism of people say, and those who
just say fuck - own nothing
can not do, that's all.

Himik's ZxZ> You know, there are
people who have constructive
criticism related to his personal
fantasies. For example, there
Comrade, I will not call it
name, which has a fantasy
almost about intelligent interface, another interface for it, 
shit. Until he write an interface that the right brain. This is 
his obsession and all. It will fachit all up until he sees

what he wants.

Elf> Well, basically, you have something really
situation is perceived, and therefore left all sorts of things 
are eliminated. 

Himik's ZxZ> You know, sometimes it
not so easy. Even the one who says: "Yes I spit on it
some opinion that it
fachit !!!", when I say bad, it's
its just a little, but will touch. A
if you say 20 times is bad, then
I will be 20 times worse. When you write 10 more letters that 
say: "You're a goat! Nafig you shoving on stage, if you do not 
write know how? "- all after just want to go, and this vzebat

Spectrum ...

Elf> No, actually, I think
that should want to improve
their level.

Himik's ZxZ> This may not want to because it's all the same 
person. We now live in a difficult time, there is emotional 
stress, the disruption occurs. The man is drunk, or, or

may be with him whatever happened.
Anyone who writes a letter not to
constructive criticism, but simply
so: "Yes, you're just the box, you
shit, and all you freaks! "- here
After these phrases people can forgive me, sit on a needle, a 
whore, get drunk with them, can anything happen. His hit by a 
car, he fall from a ladder, whatever. He

break this Spectrum, it will be taken away and otpizdyat cops, 
he put Fingal vykolyut eyes that Anything can happen. It

from the relationship.

MS> "reluctance to engage in, and everything"
say. - "Why am I doing this?
I strained myself, why do I have to? If I am apart from moral
meet nothing
get it? "One person I
asked me all the rest
simply omitted, roughly speaking.

Himik's ZxZ> Here I was pleased to know what? So when I 
released the next release PUSHER'a, I received several letters 
from constructive criticism - there

there is a glitch, there is a glitch, there is no
works-so, but still would like to
that was so-and-so. This is
nice.

Elf> No, but about what you send any fuck'i?

Himik's ZxZ> They sent me a letter, for example, such a plan:
"Dude, you've got this one not PUSHER
is fucking neither the one nor that. Poebat I could I did wrong
set up, I fuck. If I was him
poorly tuned, so lousy
program lousy advanced interface. That is, hence, a whore, in 
general all suck, all the lousy, so I will, damn, juzat, fuck, 
some Stealth monitor, Best Viewer, and, damn, your prog

sucks, and the better the fuck, do not continue. "Specifically, 
this is a letter, I lie.


Elf> Oh you just hammer on
such letters, and all.

Himik's ZxZ> to score a necessary, but
You can score a few
days when you still think and comprehend. But first something
damn, some emotions trigger. After this, excuse me,
damn, I do not want to do.
Here, a simple example - we once
time, unfortunately this program does not
came out, we wrote intro to Satisfaction. We made a selection 
of parts, we wrote, but drank vodka at the same time.

It so happens that I kodil and
I waited for a shot of vodka. And I do not
could escape and, eventually,
Alexei Titov said: "Damn,
Chemist, drink, or break Speck
fuck! ". I believed them. I have that disk, on which Alexei 
Titov drew all the graphics and wrote all the music I've 
written code that I give to him:" Ha, that you want to do "- he 
takes a lighter and sets fire to drive, damn, and throws it 
into the box. All fucked up, I was only in

Zeus'e source, but after that I
psihanul I left, I went to bed, I
drank some vodka and went to sleep. Through
a few hours we wake up,
Lech and did not sleep all night, he drew all over again, all 
again wrote the music. Ie He lost his temper, but then he felt 
sorry about it. But you you know, not always the case that a 
person did something, for example, get over it fuck, realized 
that it was all the shit that we should not pay

attention that we should live.
It happens that people go to the downloads.

Elf> There is sometimes impulsive
actions, of course.

MS> I had the momentum of a Chemist
times.

Himik's ZxZ> I felt bad
then.

MS> Almost the entire archive of your
spectrum'sky not pobanil on
screw.

Himik's ZxZ> I deleted it.

Elf> Removed!

Himik's ZxZ> Well, yeah, removed, but he
I have stayed in the basket. When
we did DeMouy to ASCII, 2002,
we have drawn animations, chicks here
these, four-something he had not happened, I
I do not remember, and four-then he hastily: "Yes
All went to hell! "(And all graphics
was a RAM disk) power is off, and went on the balcony to smoke.
Then everything myself from scratch painted only after much 
time on it gone. In the morning when we left in

Kazan, we wrote tekstovichok to
This Deme, wrote, wrote, I say
Listen, it would be good to add
RGI and PoS - "Fuck you AT ALL
PRICK! "- Reset pressed, and left.

Elf> This is something very extreme.

Himik's ZxZ> We generally extremals. If you only knew how we 
got there. 

MS> How to I train for running.

Elf> Yes, I know, I know, I heard.

Himik's ZxZ> They have a double 11
rubles in his pocket, train
goes, we go up to
platform, train departs so
quietly. The last train conductor sits and smokes.

MS> KIM him shouting: "Yes bremsstrahlung
you! ", he sits and smokes on.

Himik's ZxZ> I am, I held the door
as he could in the end they
either become more powerful, but I flatten. And here is a 
conductor. I say: "Hey, man, stop the engine, I have stayed 
there dudes." - "I can not do anything, I know nothing" - and 
in its sebalsya komorku ...


Elf> Well, how braked?

Himik's ZxZ> I paid it
cormorants 200 rubles. 100 for
stop-cock, and 100 because they do not
managed. Because I figured
breed them to useless
station, we will remove the cops on this one,
even worse. It is better to give 2
hundreds and not to contact by shit.
Cops - shit. All practice. AND
amongst 100% of elements is 2% of normal peace officers, but
they are not in Kazan and Izhevsk.

Elf> Yes, in Rybinsk them too something
no.

Himik's ZxZ> No, they are, but they
flown on a spacecraft
on the moon.

MS> seconded.

KIM> They are on a mission to Mars
departed.

Himik's ZxZ> They are out there dudes divorce.






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