Scene - cannibalism on the scene: "Camp Spectrum is divided into two hangouts: Western, European scene and the Russian ..."

<b>Scene</b> - cannibalism on the scene:

| Cannibalism on stage
| Cannibal / / TL, comments Raver / / PHT / / DCS



                          Hi, sceners!


    In his opus, I wish to draw public attention to
fact split scenes and even some elements of discrimination
respect to the ex.USSR (hereafter simply Russian) sceners. The 
fact that Camp Spectrum is divided into two hangouts: Western, 
European scene, and Russian, which includes scenery from all 
over the former Union, wrote in sng Famously raver. Only 
article of his was riddled with pro-Western propaganda stage 
and in every way criticized by our own, not even a scene, 
according to raver'a, and the local hangouts. I am certainly 
not an "elite" scener, as it, I have no experience on the 
platform of c-64 and I am not professional journalist, but also 
the latest in a Spectrum I do not. So I want podiskussirovat on 
this topic and try to look at this issue from another angle. 


                     AboUt Spectrum SceNe


    Oh, well is not easy to describe the situation, but I will
try ... Strictly speaking, raver supported scenergy
team and some other people set the standard: the western scene
it rulez, east, ie, ours - a parody of theirs and straight, not
truthfully speaking, suxx!? Russian accused of ignorance,
ignorance of the English language, rules and other missteps 
scene. But! Despite the true indication of some raver'a

oversight of our scene, no you, Mr. from Latvia, not
authorize to establish standards! You just expressed his
opinion, nothing more. Now try to explain why. You write
that publication, as on all other platforms, should be
English speaking only, because english - language scene. Yes it 
is. But should not be discounted that the former Soviet people

(Affected by the regime more than others), simple fans and 
lovers, made an enormous reservoir of masterpieces warez'a 
spectrum'a. This computer came to us (and to you, in the Baltic 
countries) in very difficult conditions, but in all known 
details I I will not go, but I just want to remind you that we 
are not having practically nothing (no documentation, branded 
programs) created by its system of virtually the entire system 
and applied Software, unlike their Western colleagues as having 
a "legacy" of former Manufacturer drivers software firms. We 
did our own Spectrum, such how we can be and would not want to 
see him, but so ... special! And we have the right to write 
bend under him, and if Europeans so eager juzat cream of our 
software, let them teach Russian and acquire complex with 
tr-dos. No, you do me wrong get - well, no one is capable of 
learning English to such a level to be able to print without 
fear of error, and shine illiteracy is not very desirable. 
Ideally, of course, to produce two versions of publications - 
tr-dos version in Russian, and English for all,. tap format. 
Yes! But here's where to find such a a man who could take on 
huge volume translation text, because 100-150 kbps - at least 
for our masters the pen? 


   And if so to understand, who are the most western sceners? In
most cases, it is our Slavic brothers: Czechs and Slovaks.
Our languages are similar, therefore, is not it easier to 
encourage them to learn Russian? K Also, many of these sceners 
know Russian quite yet nice! In addition to the Slavs, there 
are a few gay guys from England. And, perhaps, everything. 
Others just shoot the breeze on. Irc, but really practically do 
nothing. And whether or not the Russian stage because of 
handful virtualschikov-emulyatorschiov, "remembers" past " time 
to shift and break well-established standards? Again let me 
remind about the split scenes. Somehow considered that the 
western scene is international, and our no therefore, they have 
more rights to carry the baton main. As Quite the contrary! You 
have not forgotten that the USSR was the power international, 
including a large number of nationalities and countries. 
Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, Mordovia, Tatarstan - All these 
countries have their own language, but are oriented at 
pro-Russian stage and for them the Russian language standard of 
communication between themselves, as English to Western 
colleagues. Or our rights, you evroeytsy already no respect? 
(Incidentally, the country ex.USSR and Russia, with its tough 
mentality, too, not the East, its foreign to us, culture), or 
am I wrong? :) But honestly speaking, even on quality 
indicators, we come;). 


    I see the following output: available any stsenovoe
published in Russian, someone from our maps with sin
half the contents of publications in English at least a level
so that we can understand the English themselves. Then, clumsy 
English translation is sent to England to children from Raww 
Arse, knowledgeable native language, I hope fine. They are 
correct and the rule language text. Then, a revised English 
translation sent back authors. Those cram this thing into the 
shell and make. Tap version for all. Well, as an idea?



    Now about the disk systems. I think it's time
stop this reshuffle, guys! . Tap version does not exit. I
it seems that now must write warez, having universal
loader, which will plow on different disk systems.
Western counterparts! Give, give us information about your disk
systems so that we can write soft for you. Say,
it will look like this: the first block (. tap format) allows
make a choice driver disk system and further prog already
will juzat correct driver. Father-in-all this business will 
have a emulator on a PC or Amiga. Say, how do you Burial Gfx 
Editor a + D, Is-Dos, Directory Opus, or that there is more of 
disk systems? Old Systems can be published on the page

scream ...


    In general, sensitivity to me that I did not vyshenapisannym
will change and everyone will remain in my opinion. In 
conclusion, this topics I want to say that I for a 
rapprochement with the West, but for the normal approximation, 
not a mutual pouring each other with mud. Let's find a common 
point of view! But the fact that European sceners, their income 
allows them to have other modern car, do not throw the good old 
Spectrum, worthy of great respect! Keep it up, ZX rulez 4evEr! 


                     Discrimination on Scene


    Now I want to draw your attention to the fact that an unfair
relations, and even discrimination against Russian-speaking 
stage. Namely: no secret that some work exhibited on the 
European party have virtually no right to exist because of the 
very low quality. For example, in the zx party someone put the 
work written in BASIC and displaying the inscription 'fuck 
off'. And yet! How, how can expose IT? Well, if the author does 
not hesitate to expose, how can you be taken ... I remind you 
that pati precisely arranged in order to compete

among themselves to raise the level of qualification, etc. And 
what is in his work described above? In the West, along with 
the masterpieces design skills, some colleagues are doing are 
doing demos worse, but when have we, in Russia, someone will do 
the job similar quality, then it immediately poured mud tub -

do not do so, it is lame, learn to encode and then climb to
party, etc. Here it is this fact that I want to draw your
attention, dear readers: why? Why they can, but we
IMPOSSIBLE? I mean, here I am talking about our relationship 
with you: why countrymen the FAQ, but to properly treat the 
gentlemen? Should be treated the same for all. In the west, 
making demos with excellent design, a few of our does. We

high code. The situation is this: in Europe used to be very 
steep encoders and command, (MQM Team, Exodus, Pentagram) that 
is written their names in the history of our eternal with you 
computer, leave scene in the confluence of certain 
circumstances. There were people, have not yet learned to do as 
you did before, "grandfathers." Please note that we will soon 
so it will be: more and often to hear that someone left the 
Spectrum. As a result, get the following: steep leave, and 
those that remain will not below the level for "grandfather." 
Or? 


    In conclusion, I just want to wish a speedy convergence of 
our scene to the west, to keep everyone together and enhance 
each spektrumistu their professional qualifications.


comments from Raver / / PHT / / DCS:

kanibaals, PEACE LOVE UNITY RESPECT! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU ALL!
muahahha
looks like noone really got what i tried to say .. my fault too,
ofcourse. if i can't speak russian, i won't. if you can't
understand english, you better don't try to comment my english
articles, mmkay??
now, the only few things to point out are:
1) most of russian speccy scene is a cheap imitation of western
one, yes
2) there are russian groups and sceners which are doing great
job .. in the western scene ... western?? WORLD SCENE YOU 
WANKERS! 3) if you are satisfied with the current state of 
speccy scene ... wtf are you reading my stupid articles at all?


see ya