Adventurer #11
31 июля 2000
  ZX vs PC  

Interface - letters from readers: "SPECTRUM - a computer who develops, who is keen on them" ...

<b>Interface</b> - letters from readers:
     Welcome to Interface 'e.
Here we present for all to see
that post, which came (well, that
generally comes to the Elf here is a
time is not corresponded to objective
reasons) and try to answer some questions of the audience ... 
ugh ... listeners ... Shoot ... readers. Let's go. The first 
against the wall - Midnight Shadow from Minsk: 


     MS> HEYAAA, ADVENTURER! Hi da CPU!
Well then do not write! I saw 10th
number, so nearly on the # Uel. Well you fucking
give! This intro sbahali, sho pi ... y,
nafig. Your magazine Samui steep in nature.


     ADV> Well, I do not know, you really just ...


     MS> I am most pins
Category OTTYAG. That's the thing, so the thing!
The only magazine that can not
only read, but cool drag.
TERMINATOR 3 - all fly away, most "higher" that I have ever 
seen, while the 8 th issue of Winnie the Pooh 2 - rulezz 4ever! 
Will whether the continuation of these things?



     ADV> At the expense of the Terminator did not
known, likely, will not. Vovan
in the course of his writing, and so pressed (ie
Do get drunk - fuck it parses), and with the current way of 
life at all became impossible. But Winnie - please read.



     MS> And now a few words about the magazine:
Firstly, the articles are interesting,
especially pinned interview with SS'999.


     ADV> This year is likely to be the same, unless, of 
course, someone will take their stuff (and who else of course I 
am. - Ed.). 

     MS> Also, graphics not bad. And what muzonyto coolnye! 
Especially Davos'-native. I think that most rulez - is when rave

and pop 50x50%. Secondly, the text output,
wanted, that was quick.


     ADV> Yes, we've been working on this problem and have 
achieved certain results. 


     MS> I think you should not include
Annex old adventyury because
our times in which no one rulitsya.


     ADV> It's the hurt that everyone had forgotten where it 
all began. Maybe no one speak English? Fuck knows. There

same and just collectors who look: 'Oops, but I have a igruhi
no, and they will be high. Rather,
as far as finding a decent game, we will
incorporate them into your application - do not be offended.


     MS> I want to ask one more question:
When finally released the full version
FULL SHIT? We have such a boom in Belarus
rose from the demo version. This is the most ruleznaya igruha I 
just saw on the Speccy! Even if released Black Crow

2, all the same people will only chopped
in FULL SHIT. Yes, I am ready 10 bucks
pay for the full version. If this igruha
come, it will be superhit platform!


     ADV> Some are already tired of responding
to this question, and not just us (in the sense edition), and 
how many Demon 'y, since All these questions automatically from 
the editorial go for it. He says that everything will be done, 
but that's something nothing is done. From this a hundred times 
Vaniac graphics redraw (probably no longer forces Demon 'and 
strain) - imagine what must be (more accurately - is) graphics, 
repainted a hundred times? Yes, color! In short, Demon simply 
breaks off people, and It's zapadlo!



     MS> I think this is all. And finally
I wish everyone success in the composition of the CPU
your very hard work!


     ADV> And thanks for that. Bye!



     Well. About this content
most of the letters, so will continue to be
are other interesting aspects of our
correspondence. L. Peter writes to us (full name, 
unfortunately, does not have): 


     corr.> Hello, editors ADVENTURER. Wrote you a user and the 
city Perm. Recently read an 8-th number of your

magazine ...


     ADV> ...???...


     corr.> ... and I came koekakie thought. Now look at young 
people - all trudge from iBM 'and, as they say, it now except 
that the toilet is not sell. New generation of Spectrum 
probably not even heard of. From stores Spectrum has long 
disappeared, but the Dandy still selling and other consoles.

Spectrum - a dinosaur whose traces
survived to the present. Works only what was left from the past.
Production stalled. In the 8 th issue correctly stated that a 
computer young but the young generation ago, and the current 
generation always chooses PEPSI, ie iBM.



     ADV> Yes, this is so (for
Letter otvechaet Miguel). But if
think we had even had some choice
what to take (the year so in 1993), since all
were about equally inhibitory. And now a new generation of 
already "horrible, pure, to Grandma. "They already can not 
afford imagine that there are still some

components in addition to pisyuka. For example, my
cousin, kotomu now 17, long
kerf could not just what is at the
on my desk, and even without a monitor (in its
usual for neSpekovskogo world sense). For most young have all
decided - a beautiful picture, good sound,
quickness - that still need to Third
Old Age ... good play.

     When I recently asked one
friend (not spektrumist, although the year to 95 th
was so), what I have now a computer, I was surprised its 
smallness. Firstly, what began as standard: "PENTAGON

128 ... "He looked at me as a fool ... Secondly, the fact that 
I'm calm continued: "Two 3, 5 'drive, a mouse ..."

His facial expression changed dramatically ...
Thirdly, I mentioned that I'm going to put the meter memory and 
the screw, as well as a modem. Then he stopped altogether. He 
certainly wanted to look at this miracle of technology (He 
somehow has not got a floppy drive). But the only thing he 
really interested in this game, its something I have a little 
Disc - 10. Well, I showed him the Black Crow, so even small 
then. Then he a question that type of schedule-how

was not very good, and has remained (as compared to petse - 
generally crap) does not hurt sound, too, so why do you want 
it, they say, everything you want? What, like, it can be done? 
This is not pisyuk (more precisely, the Such people do not even 
know and express something this - "pisyuk, it's just 
boguhulstvo respect to the IBM PC and their language to God 
Gatesu). In response, he got my question they say, and you 
somehow something to pisyuke done? He replied that it is 
possible though print cool, something else there to do, and 
play with. I tried it rub the creative side of things, like,

zyr, we here have already done 10 issues of the journal and 
still something that has long been dispersed throughout the 
CIS, but in addition, that asked how much we in this

earned nothing on it is not answered.

     So I came to the conclusion (of course not
It was after this) that all of the computer you need only to 
play, make money and draw something, someone a. True, in recent 
years actively promote the Internet, which, in my opinion,

only helps small population
Spec - the world unite.

     Yes, Estimate, there was such an interesting number, 
somewhere in the spring. I've got friend, whose older brother - 
the owner of the recently opened in our town shop "Wonderful 
world of computers" (Although it sold some reason only pisyuki).

Besides the fact that I long to be pinned
by the fact that whether they have the right to post these 
fucking window with screen saver vINDOVZ in his own sign or 
not, was Another very big funny (for us -

spektrumistov). Duck here. Since XN0ByS
Recently, sitting on pisyuke under the emulsion, I had to watch 
it works from the boot company. He

Th something all the time then runs wind, then
restarts in dos (in the sense, not in emulation mode dos' and, 
as in real), and (something I did not know - not in the habit) 
all the time to get into dos, at boot press F8 and worked. Well

What do you think? Once, once home to
this very familiar, I watched it
pisyuk, there seems to have all applications
for the wind, which could only be
(At least, the entire desktop was
busy), although used, probably
10 percent of this amount (why
so much to be an ordinary teacher of English - it is not 
clear). Okay, God with him. He's asked me to him

brought what some trackers, as it
about their existence did not suspect and
trying something to do in Cakewalk 'e (a
a MIDI music. editor). I brought him
FAST TRACKER and said that he works in
dos' s for sure, and asked whether there
him apart WIND dos, ordinary, which is not emulation, and real. 
He told me (that's funny!) said, like, why did it to me?

And then he said (here it is the goal of all
the story) that ONE COMPUTER
CAN NOT be both DOS and windows! And this after I saw
like this turns Yurets! I did not
argue, has said that he had learned better this
question. He also promised to find out about it from
his older brother (like, an expert pisyukov). I come to Jura 
and tell the story to him, and even bone, demon

(Who also pisyuk), and what do we do? We rzhem 15 minutes and 
then decide that after the Jura I presented in detail what and 
how and when to push, to run DOS, I will go and bet a case of 
beer with this person I'm on his comp I run dos. On and

decided. The most interesting thing about this
even written, in my opinion, a textbook windows, and there it 
is called "Emergency" something there, or run, or out in the

dos not remember. Duck Now, I'm calling a person
all such rejoicing that will win a box
Beer, find out whether he knew anything about
dos from your superbrata. And OH MY GOD! He
I mean it, I'm now a party
go round shop of his brother and try not to
communicate with this person on the computer
theme. Type of brother he said that such
(Dos + windows) is possible only in specially equipped 
computers with two screws - one for DOS, the other under the 
windows, and that he will not buy a second screw only to work 
with dos on his computer. Honestly, I came to

some confusion, accompanied by
nervous convulsions, gradually turning into a fit (a good thing 
that we talked to phone, and he did not see the expression on my

face - more precisely, mugs, face - as you want, but at that 
moment it was exactly it), after which, of course, tried to

argue with him, but to no avail, so
he was absolutely convinced that
knows what he says, and especially its
brother - superpisyuchist - is also absolutely
knows. That's what ARGUMENTS Stupidity
HUMAN! I can not stand these people.
Correctly and do what they are buying petse,
where they belong.

     Of course, I do not know if we have the city not too big, 
but the density of stupidity (ie, the stupidity / person), we 
seem to be very high, just sell computers, such people and yes 
even their prices are wring that most can not and to think 
something about the nove and buys all the used or racing in 
Moscow. Probably from this (Imagine a) there are people willing 
to buy even kopeck piece, and if they podsunesh three rubles 
for the insane by today's money, then they have you in my arms 
will be wear.


     There was recently a man, ready to
buy three rubles for 100 (sto!!) dollars. He
was about 19. And that's exactly what
speech, he did not know anything about computers, and he all he 
wanted was to play. I asked why he does not take the console 
out there some. It turned out he already has, and type games 
out there all tired (as if he would ever play on the brake 
three rubles, and he does not get bored). He, of course, the 
question arose What is my comp. To which I said how

usually: "PENTAGON 128 ..." He listened to me with an 
intelligent species, but again, we asked only that much if I 
had igruh. And when I said that I almost did not play, he was 
very surprised, like, and Th can be More to do on your 
computer. Recently, I began to walk away from the answers to 
such questions (Can, of course, this is bad, we must reverse 
all the explaining and advocating for Speck, the more so 
because it is cheaper, but such people are usually reluctant to 
spend big money on the wonders of technology) and said, like,

that lot of what he really thought. Of course, now becomes
harder to find a working Speck (as has been said, the 
production is stopped), at least in our town. It is possible, 
because something Prestressing do not know, ordered from Zonova

(But as the experience of a fighter - Steel
Rat 'as well, are doomed to a life factor
with this office) or something else to get used, but now almost 
all the components decent wear.


     For example, you live somewhere in Uryupinsk in which nick 
something - yes you the one guy. Flies in your PC, and Che are 
you doing? If you know how to keep the soldering iron in hand, 
go ahead, but if not? Buying (and since you have little money), 
some three-ruble note. 

     I still do not know, as we have in
the city has emerged guys who can do something (that's me on 
the RAINBOW DREAMS) - still a wonder, though

They already have a reputation with RFE - the first and
successful project. And the work goes on
place, they are all four-it work, here sklyapali BRUJERIA.

     Probably the case in some special
mentality that does not allow the young to sit and stare 
blankly at the TV or chopped to 101-th time in the same 
cartridge. Yes, that young! But, unfortunately, apparently 
these people began to appear less. I do this, for example, 
write to account of Armageddon Gatesa. Here it is something

well with his mIRCOSOFT tried, to the glory that nobody about 
nothing thought. That's, like, we create all

that you may only need, do not, do not worry about that as 
anything something to do with their hands. ALL

WELL YOU CAN ONLY SHIT! HAHA-HA! We have already put into your 
brain (or would have said NEVER and other fans to which I, 
fortunately, I do not belong - The Matrix Has You). And a 
terrible uterine roar! 

     No, we will not surrender to the fact we cyberpunk. Will 
chew on it from the inside, like the plague stomach, so they 
then shit BLOOD! Ha-ha!


     That's what I wanted to say (uuufff).


     corr.> SPECTRUM - the computer people
who develops, who is keen on them. But
Development also has a limit. Who quickly
develops, it becomes a master, assom,
and he became closely within Spekruma. Well, someone has to 
catch the buzz continues from finding new reserves Spectrum.

Someone writes a program for the soul, for joy to yourself and 
others, and someone for to make money or become famous.



     ADV> I think that people trying to earn enough money to 
Speke as to So far nifiga not understand. If you write

prog, as they say, for the soul, something about which the 
money can there be? If you do not want - do not do it, nobody 
forces you. But if you still want to get chtoto response - 
write as much as possible quality, and you know will be with 
you fotkatsya to the party. Is not this an incentive?




   corr.> There was a time when many wanted to become famous, 
and then bred countless crawls.

Glory be different - there are miserable, and there
real. Mesons, it seems, we have the
education gland. Do not understand this
Multi-year romp around the periphery: the mouse
XT keyboard, clock, hard disk.


     ADV> In my opinion, that this is an example of how not to 
treat people. They also try to earn money. Clearly,

that for just anybody to do anything not
will be (although it is still a controversial issue). There
is another point of view of the same
Unbeliever 'a - the enemy of all kinds
upgrades.


     corr.> Well, I say to intelligent people
what is lacking Spectrum - Graphics and
sound. All efforts have been directed to
creation of graphics, sound so much
were busy, well, something is, and where the video card? There 
was no and no. Although it is said, 90% all information 
received through the eyes, and everything else is through 
hearing, smell, etc. d. Why Sprinter concocted? Had better

have a video card, so early to
can be connected to any computer, and
not to throw everything in the trash and run to buy Sprinter. 
We have many smart people, but this inability to see a major 
leads to no headway. 

     While on the other hand, if you build
Issue Sprinter 's, then perhaps someone else and would buy 
them. But it kills lack of software for

them.

     In general, the features of his leg break in the whole
this philosophy.

     We have, incidentally, the hard drive connected
to PROFI TR DOS emulator without vsyahih
ProfPZU Zonova.

     Here at this and all the while!



     Yes, such things at one time loved
write Sanya cats, but four-then no longer
see his scathing articles arrivals
at all (at least to us about no longer
gives such pleasure - the publication of his article), perhaps, 
squeeze, subsided. Matrix was already fucked!


     We also offer you, like, a
subheading in which we put
any such useful ideas related to
anything with what you face when working, for example, to do 
something that was not that something. Well, like, share 
experiences, but also on general topics. At this moment we put 
the following: 


     (C) Deadie / HS / CPU


     One idea! Now, when Ivan Roshchin released a new (2. 9) 
version of its rulezneyshego universal viewer, the

We have the opportunity to refuse
ZXZIP in part zapachennyh storing pictures, music and lyrics 
(Hrust ' LaserCompact forever! S), including source code in 
assembler format, as in the BV is a "parser file contents and

discs "(CS / A, CS / D) and decompression to disk
(SS / ENTER). Hopefully, no need to explain
now you can drive to score, "the eyeballs" zapachennymi the 
above files and unpack them when want fast and convenient, but 
in order to climb higher 128 pieces just need to glue them in

blocks (> = 255 sectors, ofkoz) with
any linker. The only restrictions will be imposed by the BV (see
document). So, BestView, unambiguously, from
TxE BEST!!! Give MONUMENT ROSCHIN! DOMESTIC SUPPORT 
SOFTOPROIZVODITELYA! :)




     You also supports domestic
softoproizvoditelya, ie us, heh, heh, and
write, ask questions, make suggestions,
Well, actually, actively participate in creating a common 
information space. 

     And one more thing:


     (C) Dr. Laser


             SPECTRUM CLIPART


     When I had the idea to write your game, then immediately 
there was a problem: where to get the schedule? I myself am not 
draw I can, and find someone who knows how it turned out

very difficult. And, judging from the letters in
e-journals, this problem arises
practically in front of everyone to write their game.

     And once, when I underground
way he worked on office computers,
trying to make the picture of several pieces of pictures COREL 
CLIPART, I thought: "Why not do something like this on SPECTRUM 
'e?" I'm not familiar in detail with the work of artists, but I 
it seems that when they draw pictures / sprites for the party / 
demos / games, in the case is only half or even less. So

why all artists do not throw their
unsold work on one drive to want to write your game could
to use their parts for its clearance.

     It is beneficial to artists, since all
the results of their work will be needed,
Benefits softmeykeram, since it does not have to score on 
interesting projects because of places without graphics or tear 
of the sprites other games (like SOLDIER OF THE FUTURE

or the land of myths), it is beneficial to both users who 
receive a lot of interesting GAMES.



     Yes, it's interesting. But I (Miguel)
as an artist in some sense can not imagine how it can be 
implemented. With sprite is clear - it is possible. And with 
pieces of full-screen images is unclear. Especially now, when 
all the stick one style, or rather, one technique at

which is unrealistic for something somewhere and cut without 
any problems to a paste. Is that entirely and insert. Duck and 
for this you can safely write someone a so ordered. 

     Continuing the conversation, we must mention
of bugs found in some prog:


     (C) Deadie / HS / CPU


     In Universal Player 's (1. 1) contrary to
According to the author normally played modules PT3. 4f with 
frequency tables ASM or PSC and REAL SOUND. It is only 
necessary when that after such Mouzon not "cool" modules with 
tables PT and ST and other modules Editors (PT2, ST) - bugs 
provided. You can simply divide such Mouzon from each other, 
however, after ST/PT2/PT3 (ST, PT) modules ASM / PSC and REAL

SOUND play normally.


     Damn! Until recently considered RC
coolest Commander. And now in version
1. 9 for us, ie me, flew glitches. Maybe when one flopovertom
it is not noticeable, but I like the evil zakonnektil second 5 
dyuymovku. So: 

     1) When you start the RC on the current drive,
from which the start, works fine, but when switching to 
another, apparently, there are positioning errors, since no 
dick is not read (except 0 Tracks) and the head drive is often 
not there wherever it should, but sometimes it is with

grinding trying to read something with a 160
'More tracks. Something similar happens
and the doctor (when writing a sector or track the message 
"Operation aborted"); 

     2) When you copy to another drive, if the disk is the 
destination files the same name, after sorting them rewrite / 
Do not copy a message is "Operation aborted!" Although no

BREAK 'and not pressed, and esesenno all
suspended? I hope Real Software to fix these bug 'and, as it 
broke on the drive to keep the two versions (1. 9 and 1. 8). In 
RC 1. 8 can not move the file (s) on the same

disk (feature "9" + "*") (flies
to ... (C) 1982 Sinclair Resirch Ltd).

     Oh, anything above wrote about RC1. 9
a burst of anger:) does not apply to
RC1. 9f, because it has no such glitches.
In general, the search for this revised version
(I think this version with the prefix 'f'
transferred to none other than - "Real
Commander 1. 9 forever! ":)))


     In the 10-m Adventurer 's seen glitches
(Non-fatal) in the viewer with a shift to
different font size (42 and 32, 32> 42 spl)
text that should be printed as
42-character prints as a 32-character.


     Well, the last it was possible and to remain silent (on 
the other hand, it could and cut).


     Well, it's time to leave.
Like, nothing new was not here, but
Still interested to know who is thinking about
at the end of the 20 th century. Here Chasm wanted to write an 
article in OTTYAG - 30 years Spectrum or something of that 
sort, but broken off. It seems that he does not believe in the 
future Speck! Funny, of course. May write to the next number. 
Okay, so far. 







Other articles:

Authors - The authors of the magazine.

Authors - from the authors: the contents of rooms.

Authors - help: a description of the shell.

Presentation - KooLeGGz: conversion of electronic toys, "Well, wait!"

Presentation - Brujeria v1.0: software for viewing and converting graphic file format PCX.

Presentation - FLN Package v1.0: utility for PC graphics.

Presentation - Perspective Commander 1.0: file wrapper.

Interface - letters from readers: "SPECTRUM - a computer who develops, who is keen on them" ...

Interface - "Why do you PeTse?" (All former spektrumistam dedicated).

Interface - "What are the program designers (for the envelopes to see the text).

Review - Gamez Review: Wolf 2-3, Aliens, Japanese Contrast, Captain, Cannibals, Tower Pod, Clickmania, Adventurer, Bloody Paws, Smagly 1-3.

Review - Review of game demos: Jackals Demo v0.0, Top Gear (Crazy Cars 3), Darkwing Duck, Project X.

Promotion - Dragons of Flame: A Dragonlance Action Game.

Promotion - Adventurer: Graphic adventyura view "of the eye."

Promotion - the coolest soccer simulator: Emlyn Hughes International.

Exchange of experience - Game Making 2: The various methods for deriving sprites (based on the game Full Shit).

Exchange of experience - Pro ASCII / astsii graphics (Dedicated to those who can not draw, no letters, no points ...)

Iron - ALTERA: Programmable Logic ICs (free materialchik).

Iron - a description of the connection Kempston MOUSE (simple and small circuit).

Ottyag - 10 ways to fuck like a conductor on the money (or at least some of the money). The main fault of women. Quiz: "And can you Cyberpunk?". Test "Paint House".

Ottyag - Winnie the Pooh and all, all, (continued).

Ottyag - EXKlyuZivnye GonY from IronmAN'a.

Advertising - listing of spektrumistov.


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