Our answer - Scropion VS Profi: which Spectrum is cooler?

Axiom is the first and only.     
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The owner of Scorpio will never become power
businessman Pro. The opposite is true.            
                                    A.B.K.
                                          
                                          
(c) Noman.                                
                                          
 More precisely, my answer will be. Reply to the question
calling  CHUNG SOFTWARE to the owners
computersSCORPION ZS 256.              
 Recently, Mr. Gromov has become
make rather boorish attacks on yourself, which
for reasons unknown to me they are published
respected metropolitan publicationsON-LINE and
SPECTROFON. In his articles, Kirill Gromov
affects not only compatibility issues
these computers PROFI and SCORPIONfrom the original
nal Spectrum 128, but also generally conducts
the most  real anti-advertising to Zonovsky
creation (what it is like is the second question), and
also greatly overestimates the capabilities of Con-
Dorsk typewriter. It's amazing how it is
in the 18th issueSPECTROFONand didn’t “cut out” that one
part of the group's letter STARS OF KELADAN from
Samara (who are they, why don’t I know?), in
which touches upon the issues discussed
by me in this publication. But more on that a little
later. And I will have to push off from the words
Mr. Gromov, how he once repelled
from Scorpov advertising.                       
 Too often I remember OS CP/M on
Pro. So Chung Software talks about it
holding your breath:                           
                                          
 "... not every computer can
boast of a professional OS, plus languages
high level kami TP, C, ADA, etc. ta-
those  knownfirms,  as  Borland,
Microsoft, Aztec ...                      
 For example, you need to write to a student
course work in Pascal or C and his
PROFI available. Do you think he will
load ... Hisoft Pascal or compiler
Hisoft C ?                                
 ... in addition, it is possible to work
on... Fortran, Lisp, Kobol, PL/1 ...".   
 Let's start from the beginning. Yes, indeed CPU/M
on  SCORPIONe  - the biggest ugliness
by MOA, but it also has the ability to work
thief in the same programs pulled together with
ROBOTRONa,the same companies. Just what
Will the student do this? I think
that any PROFIssional will say the same thing. 
  I'll try to remember my past. Onper-
In the course they actually study Pascal
and C, that's justOBJECT-ORIENTED,
i.e. Borland Pascal and Borland C++, and besides
also under Windows (in the second semester),
and coursework in the first year of study
we did not have any information.                      
Inthe second year the first six months are taught
programming in C++ under Windows'95, and
second six months - Delphi (who doesn’t know
I will say that this is the most powerful object-orientation
environment for visual programming
development both for WinDOS and for creating
nia CRT Applications).                    
 Third course  - databases. And not just
DB, and again visual programming in
Delphi (some suffer in stupid MS
ACCESS).                                 
Fourth course - JAVA under OS/2. This
In general, a topic for a separate conversation.  I'll tell you
only that JAVA is an equally powerful environment,
than Delphi, but focused on working with
networks.                                   
                                          
 For the junior command staff, I will inform you that  DELPHI is a descendant of Object Pascal, and    
     JAVA   is a descendant of C++.                
 Currently I am a 4th year student at SamSTU. Yes
where does this advise me to write my “kur-
sachi" CHUNG SOFTWARE?                     
 YES !!!  Now I remember that I have
we have one subject called IS Systems
artificial Intelligence.  As is known,
the purpose of a student visiting any Temple of Science is
ki - not to bring the matter to the exam. It was
said: "Write a program to prove-
of any of the theorems of the Mathematical
Logic using 12 rules, semi-
read the exam "automatically".                
 Some "great mind" did this (a
passed the entire stream). I note that in the 60s
years  such a program was considered the most
great achievement of man in the field
programming and the author, if not mistaken -
Yes, I received the Nobel Prize. It worked then
this creation within a few days or
even weeks (depending on the theorem).
On our crummy 5x86 it's a miraclesmelled from
half an hour to an hour. Originally this "mind"
I was going to write programs in Prolog, but in
For some reason I wrote it in C++. This
OOP represents 12 rules of Math-
tic logic, which recursively calls
meet each other.                          
 Well, now let’s imagine that I’m a student, and
I have PROFI in stock. Yes... But this is
not a "course student"!!!                           
 As for such specific languages,
codes like Fortran, Cobol, PL/1, LISP, etc.
whose popularity occurred at the end of the 60s
years, then there is no comment. Application
these languages are ineffective on Spectrum-co-
movable cars.                         
 And now the fun part!!! Most
the number of militant Users of Profs (at-
example Chertkov, Glushkov, etc.) yell at
all corners that it’s time for everyone to move to
Pros and programming using
"the most popular versions of the most popular languages
ADA, LISP, COBOL, PL/1, PL/M". I bet
that even Mr. Gromov cannot imagine
what are these languages and what are they intended for?
chens.  LISP, for example, is exclusively
assigned to NON-DIGITAL PROCESSING tasks
DATA andused for programming
in the  area of  ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
ADA is a language for real-time systems and
The Spectrum is definitely not the place for it.             
PL is a language that does not provide
ren no dialogue with the user, very
cumbersome and complex, because absorbed
characteristics of Cobol, Fortran and Algol
at the same time.                             
 So, gentlemen, it would be good to not first
learn a lot about programming before
start teaching it to everyone.      
 "... ceremonial closing of the Skor-
peony from users..."                
 You, gentlemen of Condor, when in general
last seen Scorpio? I feel
that year in 93, at least in 94. Not
quickly news from St. Petersburg reaches Moscow
you, and Zonov too, is hanging noodles on everyone’s ears.
 "Let's   be honest, Scorpio
inflated."                                 
Inflated,inflated.  Here it must be said
that  ZS-256 was conceived and developed
looking at SPECTRUM+3 (port #1ffd and much more
different, but in PROFI this address was taken "from
bullshit"). I wonder what video effects
will bring our #FDems to SPECTRUM+3. And in
the rest Scorp - 99% compatible with
Spectrum 128.                            
 By the way, through the “cropped” Pentonagon-
#FD port on Skorpa you can contact
any   of the ports (coprocessor, #7FFD,
#1FFD). Only the two elders play a role here
bits of the byte being transmitted.                 
 Example:   LD A,#10   :D7,D6=0 - #1FFD 
  OUT (#FD),A                  
             LD A,#50   :D7=0,D6=1-#7FFD 
  OUT (#FD),A                  
 For the coprocessor, D7 must be installed
new to unit. Older versions use
also called the categoryD4.                  
 And on the Pros, this is where the problems begin.
Moreover, Zilog decided to put
big pig, and programs using
undocumented command OUT (C),0, you-
give the coolest video effect. At leastOLDMAN
and says that to fix such a program -
Let's face it, it's still not very pleasant. And
this is another fact against the fact that Pro
99% compatible with branded Spectru-
mm 128.                                  
 About the button that is “relevant” for
owners of Scorp and which they are so proud of
Condorites, I agree with Zonov: "We, like
manufacturers, we cannot afford you-
launching such semi-handicraft products." To whom
I needed a “button” on the ZS, we did it ourselves.
 Here are the owners of Scorpion turbo+ from the original
By using the #FD port (for con- trol), everything is in order
raban, and with modification by V. Larkov shadow-
howl service monitor becomes so
"shady" that programs that are not allowed
it was earlier to see the protections that
it was "problematic" to remove, but now everything is the same
on the palm.  By the way, the word “problematic” is taken from
quotes, because for a real hacker
With Scorpio, the word “no” does not exist.
Suffice it to recall the alternative conservation
Transferring memory to disk with or without compression
such, i.e. you can upload everything to disk
256K with saving the values of all registers
and processor operating modes by pressing one
keys (naturally with subsequent restoration
update).  This can be convenient when removing
such  volumetric protections as BYTEMARE'95
BYTEMARE'96, where with a huge number
for so long you can just get to glitches, to
which are usually achieved by programming
research in BASIC (Microsoft of coz) under CPU/m.
And all these stories about STS? Seen, seen
Delhi Owners of SSM with an analyzer based on
The fort systems will only smile. While I'm still
I haven't met a defense that I couldn't
remove it in SSM, and remove it very quickly. A
in STS the resident alone is worth what and
hotkey management. What about glitches?
The sore spot of all modern programs:
STS, TASM, MASM and even archivers (with this
I encountered it when the second issue was being prepared
Oberona, the only archiver without glitches
- TRUSH). STS is, of course, a cool monitor,
and nothing for the owners of Pentagons and Pros
there's nothing left exceptuse it. No
alternatives.  And this STS is worthless
iS-DOS and CP/M systems. Although STS also has
its advantages: Save/Load sectors, on-
example,  faster pro-tracing
gram, etc. But Scorpio owners have
one big advantage. SSM to genius
It's easy to improve!!!  And having a version
without Save/load sectors, I wrote this app-
lobe, and it is called via a hotkey
from any SSM location and at any time. Except
moreover, sits in the memory of the resident and her
it is enough to download once at the beginning of work
you. You can do this with anything.  Before
idiotic is easy, for example, to intercept
command RST#8, NMI, RESET.                
 "Scorpio's RAM capacity is 256K, Profi - 1M,
seems four times larger..."          
 Well, firstly, what we sell in
Samara - two times less than Ckopnuo-
on. And only the Condor company is to blame for this,
which has neither dealers nor distributors.
But with Scorps everything is simpler. Yes, pirate
versions appear on those cars that are popular
among the people, but this “people” is not the same
what a fool they are trying to make him out to be
Condor company.                             
 Secondly, I would likeat least see
one PROGRAM (not the RAMDISKa driver),
using more than 256K. There is, of course, on
256K, but also those for Scorpio.              
 "The software business has moved from a dead point and
now among the sea of software products
You can get lost..."                    
 Just be careful not to drown in this sea
and don’t choke on some water, otherwise who will
there will be another thirty years and three years of new versions
rivet these synchronizers.             
 Something about this sea is not visible, "not here
no hay, desert around...". Except
"Strana mifow" for Profi,ATM,SCORPIONand
a couple of crappy programs by Dr. Lamer, no
I remember nothing. ... although something is wrong
we saw the mottled one on the superscreen, and
they didn’t forget about TETRIS at Pro.            
                                          
 "In Scorpio, the #FF port is executed incorrectly,
one of the incorrect methods described in
Spectrophone #14. He conflicts with external
devices, in particular with a modem. B
Profi provides for installation of port #FF and
at the buyer's request, company specialists
Condor will install it.  By the way, the most
correct diagramthis port I was the first
I initially performed it on Profi."         
 The #FF port in Scorpio is done correctly. Yes,
it conflicts with CDOSom, which itself
itself one complete glitch. Fortunately, Zonov already
I resolved all the issues with HAYES modems, which
some, unfortunately, also leave much to be desired
the best.  But regarding the “correct scheme-
we", which was discussed in detail in
Oberon #1 ALKom,I won't say anything at all. Glitches,
you know... It really works like in
Rodionov's book, it reads like hell
along with attributes.                      
                                          
 "The hard drive on Profi already functions with
September..."                       
 Is it true?!! Surely not in TR-DOSe?!! 
                                          
 "VG turbocharging was performed by one of the non-
correct methods described in..."         
 Another mistake, Mr. Gromov. Everything is working
melts for months and there is not a single spoilage
precious disk!!! "In addition to the most complete compatibility,
characterized (naturally with the latter
version of the synchronizer) ideal operation
the ability of proprietary programs to preserve
lack of video effects..."                  
 Tell me this is  you  everything  for the sake of Venom &
MonteCarlo suffered?  Because everything is os-
tal in this country is designed for non-
White computer Pentiumgon? Actually on
I haven't met one Scorpa yet (not #FD)
program that fundamentally did not want
work, but here is a list of them for the Pros
only for the last year:                  
                                          
       1) ZX-FORMAT 1                     
       2) ZX-FORMAT 2                     
       3) newspaper X-RAY - awesome twitch -
  Scroll.       
       ......                     
 I don’t want to upset you, but the list remains
open... and it's not about the FD port...
  Here back in the twentieth SPECTROFONe some
Lamer was published.  Oh smart, oh smart...
He reads a lot of scientific books ("IBM PC for
single-celled User", written by everyone from
vetny Uzer Figurnov). I'm so crazy
haven't heard for a long time. Defended with foam at the mouth
your conglomerate. Recommended to me (read-
Tel) familiarize yourself with the programs on the CPU/M
L80, M80, LIB80 or something like that. Well
I specially got hold of this miracle. That's what I
I'll say:                                    



 If we are talking about programs like LINK80,
ver  3.43,  Created  by  Microsoft on
18-Sep-81, then I am absolutely sincerely sorry
owners of the Profya company. Gentlemen, FORGET
its CP/M, it pulls your cars in the past
loe. It's 1997!!! Use the same
belt most powerful software tools
roving,written a month or two ago,
such as XAS by MAX PETROV (Thank you
so much), TASMCh.0 (who has a good
neck vision, nerves of steel and abilities
do not run into glitches), etc.           
 To be honest, I don’t have Help for M80 at 500K
I read it, but I’ve been working with pro-
TASM and TLINK grams on PC, written by
(according to Profi fans) by the same companies
mami. Have these companies forgotten how cool it is?
put programs under CP/M and "drove this
I'm purging" for MS-DOS, or am I so fast
accustomed to good things, but to give up ser-
For example, I’m not going to hang XASa.  I'm
I understand, of course, how cool this is: download
editor, load assembler text, from-
edit it, save, exit
daktor, assemble the text, link
write object code, run executable
file and if the entire CPU/M after this run
does not hang, then the owner of the Pro will jump
out of joy and kisses Gromov nowhere
be, but to a specific place. Here I am still
I said nothing about assembly speed.
The owner of the Pentagon or another company
just   will use   normal MASM,
TASM (in your name), XAS, ZXASM, etc. Owned by
Scorpio's face will press Magic when hanging and,
having fixed all the bugs,will return to assembler,
forgetting about what happened within two seconds,
and he won’t yell like Glushkov (LA-AMER),
that I forgot to put EI before HALT.        
                                        
 Now about iS-DOS. Any person who has
many years of experience working on PCs under Windows
catfish, MS-DOS and no less in the iS-DOS system
will tell you, gentlemen, owners of Profei, that
IskraSoft system is one of the most
successful development of DOS, and if you install
it is on a par with MS-DOS, CP/M, DR-DOS, TR-
DOS (sorry for the rudeness), then it will take
Among them, an honorable first place. iS-DOS -
a system where everything is thought out to the smallest detail and
naturally she will not be able to satisfy
requirements   of some   lamers that
believe that CONFIG.SYS contains names
drivers.  The entire  DOS structure is pre-
looks at everything that allows you to do
upgrade without any global changes
ny one.  In order not to seem unfounded,
I’ll give a specific example - a file descriptor
la in iS-DOS, MS-DOS, CP/M systems fromco-
which, paradoxically, follows that
what a thing, like stupid FAT MS-DOS, bit-
disk map in iS-DOS, and... nothing in CP/M!
There is such a thing as a remote file.
That's what we're going to talk about now.         
 In MS-DOS, a file (directory) is considered deleted
log), whose first byte of the descriptor is
holding a symbol with the code OE5h (Russian "x").
It's funny, isn't it?  That is, a file named
“ferret” seems like it shouldn’t exist.
But in reality it will exist,
only the unerase program will think
that the file has been deleted and the clusters are foreign. When
deleting a file, among other things,
resets FAT and restores file length
more than one cluster with 100% probability
not possible!!!Next
the lamer will blurt out: “... I’m like, what me-
pulled out a gigabyte file...". And the explanation is
it's simple. Thank God, mICROSOFT you-
ran  program  MIRROR.EXE or COM
up to MS-DOS 5.0, about the purpose of which
neither Glushkov nor
Chertkov.  And she did the following: hung
resident and saved in a special file
information about N deleted files. Parameter
N was set when the program started. That isif N=100, and delete 200 files long
more than one cluster, then restore
only the last 100 are possible.  And starting from
the next version of DOS... became even more fun.
                                          
In iS-DOS there is also a Status Register
A file that contains a bit responsible for
"remoteness". In addition, IS-DOS has
concepts of continuous and segmented
files that are completely absent from MS-DOS.
Thus, each segmented file
has its own little "FAT", and continuous
files don't need it at all!!! And restored
You can upload any number of files to IS-DOS
any size.                           
 I don’t have much good to say about the CPU/M.
what.  This is the only system in which
there are no standards at all,
defining the location of the directory on disk.
And an example of this is SP-DOS, CP/M v.2.2, SCP, etc.
d. The file attribute is placed (also not in
Russian) in the high bits of the name. And so on
everything. I can, of course, give the structure
file descriptor, but is it necessary to do this?  
                                          
 The only thing left for me to say is
so this is that if only everything was concludedwas in the descriptor, then I would not suffer
give over the keyboard. Everything lies much deeper.
And Is-DOS is a system that is an order of magnitude
higher than other DOS in EVERYTHING!!!               
                                          
                                          
                                          
      EVERYTHING!!! Draw your own conclusions!!!      
                                          
 In conclusion, in fairness, about co-
capacity, Kirill...                    
 I note that neither Pro nor Scorp is deprived
we have glitches.  In Profi, for example, a CMOS clock,
hanging on the Kempston mouse ports are worth a hundred
yat, and in Scorpio the Kempston joystick provided
It turns out (!) it is not implemented at all
NOCTbYU", and is tightly tied to te-er-dos.
By the way, I can tell you why it was introduced -
but in Scorpio the initial testing is
second versions of SSM (you will laugh
th).                                      
 As one little-known program answered
mist from the city on the Neva ( MY BEST REGARDS,
GLORY :-)) to an even less famous magazine
SPECTROFON, "... praise your own, but not someone else's
scold."  On this I agree with him, although
This article is not clear.                    
 I myself, and all the best programmers of Sa-
Mary (isn't that modest?) has long been
program creation is machine-oriented
Scorpion, ATM, Pentagon 512, Profi with their
resources.                                
 So, Kirill, “I’m one smart thing for you
I’ll tell you, just don’t be offended.” It's good that
you don’t live in St. Petersburg, otherwise it would be hard for you
I had to. In general, call, come, there is about
something to chat about.  We have great things in Samara
beer and the most beautiful girls.            
                                          
P.S.  Yes, the editors of Oberon  have their own
fidoshny address (see title text), then-
where we will definitely chat (if you, of course,
not very touchy and vindictive).        
                                          
P.P.S.  I already feel like the next one is coming
rock picks up the editor and begins to trample
Claudia answer me, they say a list of hangings on
Skorpe more, the CDOS modem itself is brilliant
on his own, Zonov is a fool, Condor rulezzz....
Understand, young man, it was just an answerone person to another.                  
                                          
                  Sincerely yours, NOUMEN.