Buzz #17 10 апреля 1999

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Parties?! - FunTop'99 vs Chaos Construction'99: Point of view.

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(C) Paracels ^ EI


               FunTop'99 vs Chaos Constructions'99

                         view


   For the umpteenth time, hello, dear readers!

   Only the blind could fail to notice that recently on the 
Spectrum scene is a kind of escalation of the problem with 
summer demoparty Designs Haosa'99. Numerous info files (or 
so-called "rulezy") is flashed in front of our eyes, and an 
interview with the coordinator CC'99 Vsevolod Potapov (Aka 
Random / Concern Chaos) even forced a lot to think about. My 
thoughts about all this I want to share with you today. 


   To prevent any misinterpretation of my words,
just say: I am not a supporter of CC'99. If you would
like, you can call me an opponent of the party (which will not
quite true, because, as a fan of Speccy, I can not be against 
what is happening for the benefit of this platform). Actually, 
my relation to the event and caused the writing of this

analytical and informational articles.

   At this point it's safe to say that in most
shortly scene split into two camps: supporters
CC'99 and supporters FT'99. Personally, I consider myself the 
second category of people and here's why ... 

   As shown by the year 1998, the project was conducting 
FunTop'98 very successful, and its organizers have not given up 
their ideas even in the wake of a crisis. Despite all the 
difficulties with electricity party was held. All Russia and 
the countries CIS now know that the organizers FT'98 - serious 
and experienced (already) people. 

   Now let's talk about the party organization in St. 
Petersburg. In Unlike Moscow, St. Petersburg has some notoriety 
in terms of for such events. Honestly: the city on the Neva

I like much more than Moscow as a cultural and scientific 
center of Russia, besides Peter incomparably beautiful city. 
But! As a venue for demoparty St. Petersburg me (and not only 
me) are not satisfied. Everyone knows what the outcome 
Enlight'97. And no one even suggests what may end designs of 
Chaos. Agree, some risk that CC can comprehend the fate E'97 
still there. 

   So why should we go to the mythical (as said MMA)
party at Peter, If do know that FT'99 can be no
worse?? Organizers of the FT all Russia knows in person - 
Wlodeck Black, Alex Research, Antares, etc. Sorry, but who has 
ever seen Random'a? I understand, Vsevolod, is trying for the 
benefit of the Spectrum, but it started to do it from far away 
Australia's "slightly" more difficult than from Moscow. In his 
article in # Z80-5 Random writes that "Directions" by (Peter - 
Pls) is not possible. " Pass something, maybe not, but did not 
reach - is quite real. It's no secret that going to Moscow, for 
many it is cheaper and more convenient than Peter. As written 
by Random, he spends on a trip to Russia $ 3000. And the 
hard-earned. And it is truly heroic act. But where are we, with 
our crisis and standing plants, with such a sum of money? 
Apparently, Vsevolod simply forgot that even if you work in 
Russia, it does not mean that you earn! And even with all its 
desire "not rough granny "many are simply not physically able 
to attend CC'99 due to lack of money. Ideally I'd like to go to 
Peter, but where do I find this facility? Nor should forget 
that Random gets his salary as a programmer Australian (or any 
other foreign) firms in dollars rather than in rubles! And the 
course of each of them well known to us. 

   Now, about the cost of tickets for CC'99. $ 5 - now it's
5 * 25 = 125 rubles. At that kind of money I can easily whip on
bus from Kovrova to Moscow and back. I understand, this is the 
maximum price, but that and $ 2 and $ 3 for others it may be 
too expensive. I do not understand why the cost of tickets to 
bind This notorious dollar, because we live in Russia, as in 
any way. 

   Sorry, but personally I have the impression that
This party just want to make money. However, perhaps I did not
rights. Although, here's an example. At the same FT'98 Exploder 
received fairly good money for winning the two compo. And cash 
prizes infah stipulated in the FT from the start. Where it's at 
infah about CC? So far I've only read about the badges and 
certificates. Is our with your $ 5 will be enough only for a 
small ware products? 


   Gentlemen spektrumisty currently undergoing Speccy is not 
the best of times, and we all, more than ever, need one Big, 
solid annual party, such as FunTop. Why FunTop? Not least 
because it all closer. Contrary to this, in my view, common 
opinion of many groups and people are going to conduct their 
own party, such as Chaos Constructions, ArtComp, Complex Compo, 
etc. Heard that even in Kazan will be something like. But 
excuse me, why all this? Not better for us to unite their 
efforts to create one, but really powerful party. Let it be the 
most multi-platform and very popular, the funniest and most 
generally the most. Then that would be useful to us and $ 3000 
Vsevolod Potapov. We use the experience of FT'98. After all, 
people who are unhappy with this party is almost no, can not be 
said about Enlight'97. We - Eternity Industry - call all of 
you, dear readers, and you, dear, coders, musicians and artists 
who support this decision and share MMA, announced in the 6 th 
issue of the newspaper BORN DEAD. We have already done! 

   Spectrum needs unity of us all. No need to tear it
on many summer party, when to hold one, but really cool - the 
best option. Let it be: 


                          FunTop'99!


                     Give FT'99 in MOSCOW!



                               With respect to all the 
organizers 

                  Chaos and structures throughout the Spectrum 
scene 

         Alexander Kalinin aka Paracels / ETERNITY INDUSTRY / 
KOVROV 

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(C) Spy ^ EI

Intro:

   Originally this article with a rather shabby title
(?? Vs??) Was conceived as profantopovskaya and / or 
anti'KH'shnaya. No good ...

Action:

   Two parties.

   Just a half hour ago, the answer to the question: "What?" 
for me was unambiguous - Funtop, Moscow. Until the appearance 
of # Z80-05 interviews with Random'om. Until I read is one of 
the "enemies" - although it was not going to "beat its head" 
Randy, but was AGAINST CC'99 uniquely FOR FT'99. Say that after 
reading My views have changed to the opposite - say it is almost

truth - too little time has passed, and was too hard
My position on this issue. But something has shaken my 
confidence that Moscow - a perfect city for such party

(At least this year): geographically closer to most
people than Peter (confidence estimates MMA in this area)
it significantly reduces the cost of the road. Random Tips
vzlohmachivaniya about grandmothers and drowning Mumu, in my 
opinion, are somewhat flawed: most people money as well

not accrue for free, and even a trip to Moscow - not two bytes
forward. Granted, if you put pressure, to find a job, money
trip to St. Petersburg for many may be sufficient, but other 
than that in my life there is something else: some planned 
expenditures, which sometimes are a higher priority than 
tusovka spektrumistov (On the Amiga / PC I will not speak - 
that's another topic). After all, Speccy, anyway, there will be 
only a hobby, and life on it especially did not earn 
(understand, not very patriotic, but strongly smacks of the 
truth). 

   So, the main (and perhaps only) to trump Moscow
Private spektrumista about to go to the party - the smaller
costs. At the same time, it seems all the benefits of capital 
and end: just as the city, Peter bypasses white-stone -

night between compo'vskimi days more pleasant to walk in the 
first, than in the second and, despite much worse organization

E'97 compared with FT'98, many, nevertheless, said that
atmosphere, the general condition of the people on enlighte was 
better, than in Moscow.


   Pleasantly surprised me in absolute seriousness and 
commitment in the organization of Random CC'999. People with 
this approach is unlikely Do be thrown as a 97-m.


   Cross-platform party, in addition to lower costs
holding get-togethers on each platform separately, has yet
one advantage: the people, the majority will be more
advanced (not by me will be said) in terms of demo - at least
If looking like dude falls from the roof down, they will not 
accept is this Kulnev fx and will not yell at each corner, that 
as much ofigeli.


   There is a second option: to accept the holding of the CC 
and arrange FT in Moscow. However, the most likely consequences 
of this can be expressed as follows: one party will bring 
together all the molecules, all stsenovuyu elite, and the 
second - you know that. So, I think One of the reasons for the 
reluctance of organizers FT'98 Organiser FT'99 is precisely the 
understanding vyshenapisannogo. And if earlier I was hoped that 
the CC, may not be, it is now [Hope] is dead, and I come to the 
conclusion that, in the case of FT'99, his fate - the same fate 
as Artcomp'98. 

   And the last. It is sad, but if Concern Chaos will
continue to carry out party in St. Petersburg, then Moscow, 
like, ca-a-avsem nothing shines in this area, and FT'98, sadly,

remains the only large-scale Spectrum tusney on
I've visited :-(

   As you can see, this article is - not the enemies Fantopa, 
and I myself I am not their zaslantsem the ranks of Eternity.



                     With respect to the organizers FT'98 
'CC'999, 

                                                sad Spy / EI.