Scream #01 31 мая 2001

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Demoparty - the truth: the truth about SS'2001 - recognition Random'a.

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(C) kristoph.sc.ctl (questions)
(C) Random.cc (FAQ)

[?] Hello.

[!] Good afternoon. I am very glad that at least some people 
still think my head and decided to check the information first

hands. Thank you for that.

[?] In fact, just want to clarify some points
tsts0 past, because statements Unbeliever'a in Borndead # 11
suggest the bad thoughts. I would like to know the whole truth
first-hand, but because - here are a few questions. The first 
and main: what's the story behind the movie? Unbeliever wrote 
that you, in collaboration with the Frunze tsts0 spent on the 
script. Sounds just shocking, is that true, or Unbeliever lied?


[!] Much of what I read in the Adventurer # 12/BornDead # 11
was for me no less a shock than for anyone else. Topics
more that I did not expect such a distorted form held on
events from people close to the organization. Most likely, this
due to the fact that I did not have enough vremyani explain
all that really happens. I was constantly isolated from
appropriate cases, which I have described in their report. I 
take the assume full responsibility for all the punctures, and 
gaps in the conduct of Party in the past year. Yes, I realize 
that it was all in my hands and I could fix things in some 
cases. What happened? I surrendered. The situation of neglected 
and diplomas tickets and votelistami and Incidentally I have 
just killed, I gave up the slack and give up what is happening 
chaos. I myself can not imagine still forgive, why not expect 
anyone else to be more lenient to me. Drove narubleno was too 
much. Returning to the theme of the script TSTS000. There was 
no script of the party. a film script, part of which was the 
official program TSTS000. Frunze _not_ byl_ TSTS000 organizer, 
he made a film. Since he had limited resources, he turned to 
me. At first I did not saw no problem in the filming. Money 
was, time was all progressed well. Fatal mistake was that I

entrusted Frunze and Hunter some questions for the most
party. Not because I wanted to remove a film, and
simply because I did not have more people who could
physically do these things. For example, Hunter was engaged in 
sound and lighting, with which he handled very adequately. Him 
in this also helped Frunze. Yes, a little overdone rebqyata 
with flashing lights, wires, gates. But I just was not anyone 
else Who can be trusted with such cases. Merlin and Mandor (my 
friends from kindergarten), who have been helped during were

available at the party. about it, I just learned the day before
party. That's why the choice fell on the children, which I did 
not seriously tested, had no chance. It was a risk, but more 
opportunities I just was not there. Now many may say that I 
would what would do it. The question is only one thing - where 
you were and why I could entrust the case to you and not to 
those whom I trust. Ask You understand that the wine in TSTS000 
problems does not lie entirely on the shoulders of someone. It 
is the fault of the organizers, most of my wine. Everything had 
to be done in advance and check all the time. In This was the 
all my mistakes. There are many, but I learned enough a serious 
lesson from all this. This is already included in the plan 
TSTS1 organization. Responsibilities of people will be very 
clear distributed, people will not work by themselves, but 
always have a deputy in case. The most annoying that all this

could have been prevented if there was an exchange of 
information between various organized every other party. 
Organizers TSTS1 now are people who have experience and 
tempering at organization of other activities.


So, I'm outta topic, but it was necessary to explain this, many
People just do not know what's going on and believe stories of 
people who have which this knowledge is even less.


Briefly summarizing the response. _tsts000_ not been on our to
Frunze scenario. I will not accuse anyone of lying. With all my
heart I hope that simply have been misinterpreted somebody
words. If anyone still doubts, I want to ask them
such a thing. Do _ya_ could not imagine a more interesting
scenario? If the movie was my goal, then why was arranged itself
Party? If I do not care about the scene, then why am I doing 
this for for so many years and have put all their efforts in 
holding that for me not to have any significance? Really I 
could not find another application of our nerves? Now the main 
question. If the movie was the cause of TSTS000, where is this 
movie now? 

If you have answers to these questions, please write to me
very interesting.

[?] What is your relationship with the Frunze? Shared 
experiences? 

[!] Now no dealings with him, as far as I know, he is now
works on the channel NBN, a film about the SS000 has no
Force / time / money. Relationship I have with him now, too:
connection with it either. The last time I heard about it from 
my brother, whom I have entrusted money showdown with Sergei. 
Money for the most part have been returned, contact was lost. 
Yes, and the meaning Now just do not see. I have my own 
business, he has his own. If a question implies, would make a 
film about TSTS1, I just do not know. I have no relation to the 
shooting did not have and distracted by it this year just can 
not. Conscience allows. Yes and no desire. In general, in the 
past year desire was not there. Simply, the whole history of a 
forgotten print product mix all cards. Knocked down the entire 
schedule. 

[?] What will happen to the CC1: speccy day? In rulezah I read 
that virtually all will be mixed? In my opinion, it is better to

Pure Spectrum day, without a mixture of PCs and the other haters
old man.

[!] Yeah construction, which was planned in a drunken delirium 
from / IC division into two parts, although it has many 
advantages, simply unprofitable and impossible under the 
current scenario. Since TSTS1 this is the last game of global 
proportions, which we organize, it is necessary to most 
appropriately way to do TSTS1 sample of such events.

Again, always very easy to divide things in different
grounds. But the real power in the union. Destroying enmity
between platforms, we can lift the scene to the next level.
Naturally, this is not done at one time, but I think that
just need someone to start a business in our country. / IC has
that year to do things that other parties can not or will not
want to do. This is the last step. The final stage of 
development and union scene.


[?] Ok, Random, are you convinced me that the mixture of 
platforms - only benefit. But he promised me that in all of 
this synthesis is not is lost or somehow infringed Spectrum 
that spektrumisty will be able to get a real decent party, and 
that the resources (in particular, iron) will be directed 
equally at the HRC, and at the Spectrum. Promise me that tsts1 
Spectrum will not just a "small narostkom", as it turned out to 
Millennium'e and Paradox'e, and full-fledged part (a major), 
the global party.


[!] I want to stress again the next and thereby remove
all doubts about the innovations on CC1. Demoscene is 
inseparable thing - it can not be cut into parts platform. Each 
system in the which employs sceners, important and necessary - 
everyone brings on the scene something different. I confidently 
declare that CC1 each platform will be given a decent time. 
Whether it's the master old school in Eastern Europe - Spectrum 
or any other system. It is for this rule and have been 
corrected. Many long all we were told that we should focus only 
on PCs, but because by doing so we automatically put an end to 
the past. Can not forget those systems that are the progenitors 
of the whole scene, especially in our country. Disown your 
family? Send their ancestors? No, CC1 will not do.


[?] Who will be the organizer of the Spectrum of the day?

[!] Most likely, it will deal with Vladimir stalls and
team. The man is a proven, legendary, so I do not see
no problems in this direction.

[?] Will you give the opportunity to help in the organization 
who want it do people? (CTL - in the front row)


[!] It should be noted that in fact the party to be a need for 
volunteers. That is, people will be needed to perform those or 
other problems (of course, is not affiliated with "high" 
organization, it will all be long before the Party will do). 
For example, the maintenance of order (not security, but simply 
to monitor the behavior people in the audience), an explanation 
of the rules, help with the collection of sheets for voting and 
other such things. The fact that this seemingly small things, 
but in fact this is what distinguishes a good lot of excellent.


[?] What can you say about MMA? His "answer" to all of vprosy
tsts0?

[!] Hard to say right now that I think about it "response" as
I have not followed them. If we are talking about publications 
in ADV12/BD11, I view his already stated. I hope that this

it was just a mistake in the interpretation of events. 
Otherwise I do not imagine further cooperation with someone 
who, at the in all seriousness, I think that this happened 
exactly as described in ADVENTURER # 12/BORNDEAD # 11. I 
repeat, if it is a mistake in interpretations, all I ask - is 
this recognition and publication of an explanatory article in 
the compartment with my report, and perhaps this interview.


[?] On tsts000 was idiotic preselkt in music, someone beat me 
to the tsts1?


[!] Beat nobody should be on tsts1 preselekt will be 
implemented in Friday, the day before a party, during the final 
general rehearsals. That this additional means is that the work

likely will not be accepted at all after this point
(After preselekta and approval of the grid competitions).

[?] Who will be in the preselkt-committee? (Preferably
in concrete)

[!] Unfortunately, the composition preselekt-Committee, I can 
not say. But say a few words still should - be preselekt

by the people approached to orgazatsii in the number of
about ten people. All work will be heard, none of
preselekta will not single-handedly decide the fate of a
work.

[?] What to do with ptsshnikami, which are specified or 
questions "what to do these spektrumistami? "


[!] Same thing as with people speaking "what to do with these
Platform fans xxx "- ignore. It is time to finish
discrimination, basing on the platform. All sceners do
good job and work in the same direction. The earlier
most will understand, the better.

[?] In this case, I think you need to write some
Articles in ptsshnye Esme, which explains why the Spectrum
sceners - same sceners as ptsshnye. You need to explain
that spektrumisty - not drunk, as normal people, among
which caught some people turned to alcohol, and these
"Rotated" no more than ptsshnoy scene. Just as I
I can judge the opinion of the pc sceners spektrumistah, then 
we simply do not believe in people. Throughout the HRC stage 
there is a perception that spektrumisty - just a computer 
necrophilia, but not to the same alcoholics very real.


You - should explain to them that all is not so. If you do
do not do - tsts1 fail, will not be the unity of the scenes of
you speak.

In turn, I try to explain spektrumistam that
ptsshniki - not so terrible as all of them imagine, and that
they too are normal people and patriotic sceners.

[!] I will do everything possible myself, but frankly I do not 
know how much I will have time for this. Now all of the free

time in my busy correspondence with the organizers, dopolneniemi
Master Plan for and other things. Would have been better 
renounce support what some PC-shnyh group. Try to connect with

Throb, Proxium, Extreme, Excess, Accept - They're all from the 
cake started. Behind them stretch and rest.


[?] Will provided lodging for party place for non-resident?

[!] The Party will take place without interruption. Indicative 
timetable as follows: start 18th of August, Saturday, at 12 
o'clock (opening door), top competitions in the 14 end of the 
contest 10:00 Sunday morning. Awards ceremony at noon. 
Officially ends TSTS1 at 17, the doors close at 18. Continue 
after the party. If someone wants to sleep and miss contests - 
not in our power to stop them.


[?] It's cool, I'm such an approach is similar. But what to do 
with people who come for the day, two, three to the party?

Will you help them (in particular, we are =)) to organize the 
place accommodation? At least, to find out the whole situation 
in a low-cost housing City (dorm COX) and give advice.


[!] For my part I will try to find people who can help
nonresident individuals with a temporary residence. The point 
now is it depends on the venue. That is, if the party passes

in the area A, a dormitory on the outskirts of other cities in 
the region I, then there will be more hassle than good. 
Nevertheless, the people connected to this direction.


[?] What will happen to the music compo? Play 20 Mouzon just
unrealistic, limiting the amount of work does not exit.

[!] Preselekt is as follows: on Friday, during the General
rehearsals, the group will watch the work in
as close as possible the party and evaluate them. Upon 
completion, results will be tallied, the required number of 
best works will be skipped in the net competition. Thus, only 
the best Work will preselekt.


[?] So I reported this and say - you have the whole hall will 
escape during the Spectrum music compo, even the musicians 
themselves will flee! Whether you have some of the original 
solution? For example, conduct any contests or anything 
incidental restriction Module one minute?


[!] Do not forget that purely Spectrum (purely pisishnogo,
Pure Amiga and so on) the music / graphics / demo component
never will. Separation is done not on the platforms, but on
styles and schools. Thus, the problem ceases to exist.

[?] What rulezy will zx gfx compo? Will this tech compo
or copy / nocopy?

[!] Separation is not. Not in the music, not in the schedule. 
Work will have to be original.


[?] Here, I can tell you exactly that in matters of originality
work you have to completely rely on the authors because exactly
determine whether the original work is simply impossible.
Do you want to restrict, for example, simply defining
handmade and a ban on conversions?

[!] Not in our power to provide 100 percent control of 
originality. Naturally, it all depends on the author. If 
conscience can put someone else's work as his own - we can not 
stop here. The scene then herself with such people will 
understand. 

[?] Have you read a report about Bhead'a Mindresource1? As I 
understand it, organization there was just super. Have you 
ruled out of the report important issues for the organization 
tsts1? 

[!] Hehe, not many people know this, so it should be
interesting. Many things that were on the MRS, will be on CC1. 
Before how we will be accused of plagiarism (which in itself is 
irrelevant, because all organizers are fighting for one thing), 
we must recognize that the next day after TSTS000 organizers 
got together and start a discussion and analysis of errors. 
Were made by numerous vyody, some of which are - the counting 
of votes after each call to simplify the voting record of work 
on Video carrier to avoid compatibility problems and 
glyuchnosti, the need for more rooms at the party (which was 
partially Implemented in TSTS000, with rooms where people could 
sit and talk). Short answer - nothing new from an organization

MRS we have not learned. All was said and discussed long before
of MRS, in hot pursuit. The organizers and the people
CC1 got interested in the organization about his plan
conduct. We do not lock up our experience, we fully understand 
that all the organizers of such events should

learn from others' mistakes. By the way, now the situation and 
context organizers of each other improve and CC1 planned

negotiate with representatives of the organizers of the other 
parties on Later, closer cooperation.


[?] According to the experience mrs1, the counting of votes 
after each component has not given the results you want - 
except delays between competitions. 

[!] Results will not be announced until the end of the party. 
Votes will be considered specifically for this set people (using

program). How might this affect the delay between the 
competition? 

[?] ... One thing I do not understand: Why do you need a limo?

[!] I was not absolutely necessary. It was not my idea. It was 
invented for the shootings, in which I was involved. 
Personally, I hate showing off in this regard. Look what I 
wore, I think all the questions then disappear by themselves. 

[?] Somehow proagitiruy scenery on tsts1, to make us believe
in you, believe in tsts1.

[!] Well, campaigning hard, I can not say that the CC1 is
better than anyone else, I never did not examine this. I can 
only ensure a much more serious organization, not losing,

however, that the "correct" the spirit of unity and cohesion,
spirit itself a party, demoscene spirit. One thing I can say 
with certainty, the exhibition of TSTS1 we do not intend to. 
Will a party, there will be many interesting new rules, new and 
interesting contests with fewer restrictions creativity.

Instead of freezing the old rules, we are always trying to
push the stage for something new. And CC1 will be the last
completing a loop at the end of which you can look back
and say - the time was not wasted.

[?] Thank you for taking your time.

[!] But not for that, I'm always happy to answer any questions
about the SS and the organization thereof. I'm sure all of us 
all succeed.


I wish you all good luck, see you at the CC1.


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(C) random.cc


From correspondence with weIrd.cc.psycho: "people are just 
trying to put themselves as best parties at the expense of 
watering and other razdalbyvaniya party. that is, instead of 
support from colleagues, they receive blows to the forehead and 
groin. which in itself is idiotic, because who-who and the 
organizers should understand what it is ungrateful. I do not 
understand these people do not understand ... " 

"I see myself CC1 - another bunch of good friends, where
You can look and work more and talk with friends. then
there is emphasis on communication. work are also important
factor, but this is just an excuse. opportunity to meet with
sebepodobnymi, feel the spirit of the scene, be part of it. "

From correspondence with zmej'em / / slash: "just on an 
individual basis need to work to approach. good work should be 
seen people. you know what I mean? Rules are good for 
performance mandatory program, which is less and mene free.

what is the meaning to come for a lot of work to look at the 
exact time and go learn the winners? If all this happens in 
exactly scheduled time, you are no interesting adventures. 
because you can to put the video and just scroll through the 
cassette at the right time. where from this interesting? people 
sitting in a room that costs very expensive, looking at 
proektor which costs the same to demos and intros and sounds 
that are more and more on each other similar. people really 
need to postpone, feel the closeness sebepodobnyh, enjoy all 
those the time they arrived, many miles, money and

nerves to spend. Is it us to go into a rigid
Grid competitions and hopeless routine? Is it us
drive the creative-minded people in the camera rigid framework 
and restrictions? that, no matter how complete creative 
freedom, can push these potentially talented individuals in the 
first step in toward the beginning of his creative career? we 
just have to inspire and interest many people as possible, 
otherwise the meaning of such a party no. what path you think 
is better: you can leave aside hard competitions, fixing the 
schedule of art galleries and approach, or do so at any time 
during the game man felt appropriate part of the current and 
expected the next moment with a sense of interest and 
anticipation of something out of the way? it is natural that 
the feelings will be enough mixed, but one thing is certain. 
sorry about spent vremyani, power and money, visitors will not, 
but would rather look to the future with hope that more will be 
able to visit such a event. this was almost achieved in ss999 
and ss000, but This year we can actually reach that peak, when 
you can really skontsentirovatsya to conduct _interesnogo_

party, where competitions are one important part of
demoparti. this is our main goal this year and I am sure that
our hands are all tools that can be us
need to build this _parti_ "