Spectrofon #20
11 октября 1996

Enlight'96 - one of the most intepesnyh pazgovopov "The Scorpion and its future," taught by Sergei Zonova, Maxim Romanov, Andreev Isaeva and Max Iwamoto.

<b>Enlight'96</b> - one of the most intepesnyh pazgovopov
   One of the most interesting conversations
can be called a conversation about "Scorpio" and
its future. In an interview participated
Sergei Zonov (developer "Scorpion")
hackers and programmers (Maxim Romanov
Andrei Isayev, Max Iwamoto and others). Presenter - Michael 
Ivan (studio Logros). By technical reasons we can not lead

conversation entirely, and perhaps more
details will be covered in the electronic
Journal "ZX-FORMAT # 5."



Akimov: Lots of questions about the compatibility is not 
programs that come from Ukraine, from Novgorod, with a computer

"Scorpio". Question to the developer - as
to resolve this issue?

ZONAL: Well, how to solve? If we are talking about
Scorpio - the options are many. You can put the mute button. 
Scheme published. Therefore, whoever wants to can modify your 
computer. We can not put a button for yourself. We, as 
producers can not afford the production of such semi-handicraft 
products. In the future, maybe we'll do is shut down. But to 
say exactly when it will be - I can not. 

Isaev: And what you have revised? There
Do you have such that the Scorpion was bezwait'ovym to work 
properly digitization to AY worked as a DAC? On

the first "Scorpion" or "tool", nor
"Sampler", ie St. Petersburg development company did not work 
... Why did this happen? 



ZONAL: Because these programs are addressed to ports having 
16-bit addresses to a shortened at # FD. Only

so ...

Isaev: This is not a modest question. And why
You come up with its 256 KB on port 1FFD? I
understand that you have with this port
Firm 3?

ZONAL: Yeah, definitely ...

Isaev: Do you know of any addresses where start page?

ZONAL: I know ...

Isaev: Since when?

ZONAL: Pages of what?

Isaev: Well, just the page address. After all, there
not with the C000, you have done ... After all, there is 
another addressing. 

ZONAL: Yes, there addressing other ...

Iwamoto: Just "Scorpio" has turned out some brand machine, part 
- not firm. So maybe it should definitely take away from the 
original machine? Make no wait'a? Ceychas standard, even on 
ENLIGHT'e recognized the Pentagon. Just this the most common 
machine. And all programs are designed for maximum number of 
cycles ... 

Isaev: And without wait'a ...

Iwamoto: ... but they are few in Scorpio.

ZONAL: Well then the question arises. What
machine is most common? Do you think - that the Pentagon ...

Isaev: We do not believe ... You are not targeting those who 
write software. Comrade Mednonogov wrote their software to the 
Pentagon, Max Iwamoto - the Pentagon, I - Pentagon


IMP, KSA ... I will tell you all the Spectrum's elite - she 
works at the Pentagon. Why do you go by the users, which your 
monitor can be used somehow do not know how? More precisely 
MOAshnym ... Why do not you insert a back monitor Stalker? 

Iwamoto: In Ukraine, the Scorpions are very few ... Basically, 
the Pentagon and local version ...


ISAEV (c annoyed): Such a machine with such capabilities as 
much as Pipe! .. Any The Pentagon has expanded to 512 KB. Just 
8.7 bit. A full 512 KB. Even your St. Pete Kowalewski in 1992 
already came up with this chic design without any additional 
ports ... Why do I need be copied outdated ports that

came up with, roughly speaking, Clive Sinclair in
some there, and his followers ...
If you work for the Soviet people -
it is other people, they have a different mindset.


And now the 96th year and you all go, like IBM PC ... stuck 
with the 86-th year, as well as you. It was necessary to have 
long to make the "Scorpion" became a cult car. You have all the 
cards were on hand. Do you has excellent production. And I 
think that you cold attitude to the people who write software. 
Just have not heard their views. And so now

St. Pete so many suffer. Again and
LOGROS and SOFTLAND say that our things are not working on 
"Scorpio", and then Hacks and krekerskie version does not work 
... AND claims to the "Scorpion" was so ... I hear everywhere 
... In addition to the monitor MOAshnogo - Nothing ... And why 
can not agree with stalkers to custom could

flashed his monitor debugger?

Iwamoto: MOAshny monitor all good, but
its outdated design. A monitor Stalker - takes into account the 
views of almost all Soviet Union. All of them enjoy ...



ZONAL (ironically): Very cool! Today
our company is compared with the IBM PC, yesterday
compared with Apple. All - fun ...

Isaev: Macintosh - a very worthy comparison ...

ZONAL: Well, it's not my words - these words
same Stalker ...

Isaev: Well, Stalker, I believe. Stalker -
the credibility of our world ...

ZONAL: As the shadow screen, he
really developed very long time.
And he worked under the 16 KB ROM, which is
Available ...

Isaev: A stalker that takes longer?

ZONAL: ... Shadow monitor is there
a very small part. There are many places
occupy and service functions, which many are needed.

Isaev: This is a controversial issue ...

ZONAL: Well, the issue ... So ...

Isaev: Well, well, so we ...

ZONAL: Wait, let me tell you, and then further
continue ... Why do we have these ports?
Well, take such and all ... Change 7FFD, 1FFD
We basically will not. Here it clean -
Keep it clean, agree - do not settle ... All done and changed 
fundamentally nothing will happen. Only if it works for us, but 
it does not depend only on our desires, there are many 
different factors - we will do so to be able to disconnect at 
any time of the computer all the additional

ports. How it's done - no matter.
The main thing that all of the additional ports
turned off and the computer becomes an ordinary 128 KB Spectrum 
... 



Isaev: I can name the configuration of the machine,
which is now the most popular in our
country. And you call your majeure configuration that no one 
has ever seen. And we immediately identify the differences and 
find out who more important than your configuration and ours. 
Most majeure configuration: Pentagon 512K, AY-Mouse, modem, 
C-DOS ... This is the minimum Moscow configuration ... Maximum

equipment - this turbo SH, and ROM Titova, bug fixes TR-DOS'a 
... This configuration of 1996. What is your

"Scorpion"?

ZONAL: First, again - controversial
question, what's popular, or as you say "major" in our country. 
Based on the Why? In spite of what a start ...


Isaev: From the convenience of such
softoproizvoditelya car ...



ZONAL: Yes, if from this point of view, probably, cool ... And 
our company is a start on how economically profitable to 
produce a particular design machines and how ...


Isaev: Save on buildings ...

ZONAL: What does the body, it's not
buildings ... And how much such a machine would be the end 
users ... Not software vendors - for their fingers can be 
counted ... and they always any car can do for themselves, so

that it was easier ...

Isaev: RST 7 can not write on the "Scorpion" ... If it 
everywhere OUT # FD, A. .. Maybe for some system applications, 
such as IS-DOS, it can be ... That is to approach

it and agree ... And programmers who write it is not for sale, 
and for simplicity of his heart - you will not decree. I'm 
sorry if this offends you. You can not lead 

them and say that they did on
"Scorpion" ...

ZONAL: I have nothing to anyone not going to specify.

Isaev: You say that you actually transplanted RST on the 
"Scorpion" ... 

ZONAL: I never said anything like that.

Akimov: I propose a compromise between the producers and 
programmers. Maybe it makes sense to find a compromise? You 
write a program under the "Scorpio", and you ... 

Isaev: We will not ever write under
"Scorpio". And we can sign this petition. If the Scorpion does 
not take into account our views ... At least one "mikrik" 
switch to the "Scorpion" becomes "NeSkorpion. To all the 
"skorpionovskoe" died ...


ZONAL: schemes of complete ...

ROMANOV: This should be done as standard ...

Isaev: This should be done by the manufacturer.

Akimov: Make it as a supplement to the basic mode of operation 
... 

Iwamoto: Just - disable additional ports.

Isaev: But wait, what wait?

ZONAL: And if we do not make any sense ...
Because it will vary from brand name computers, if we compare 
... 

Isaev: Branded new programs - at
handful ...



ZONAL: But wait. Programs ... It is not a
programs. If we rely on some
Canons of compatibility with the corporate computer ... For 
example, port # FF, which, in Basically, no one wants ...


Isaev: Nobody wants.

ZONAL: But it is, any program under
he has. But then again a controversial issue.
Someone said that he needed someone thinks that is not needed. 
Here is possible to argue infinity. We are, in principle, no 
reason to remake something in your computer, if any program 
without loss of quality can be adapt, "Scorpio".


Isaev: Yes?? Let's find out ...

ZONAL: What's wrong? For example? I do not know.

Isaev: demos! EXTASY, INSULT, SATISFACTION.



ZONAL: Yes, they have long been adapted!
All they have and work on "Scorpio".

Isaev: Why? What right have they
be adapted if the authors have not thought of them under the 
"Scorpions"? 

ZONAL: What does it mean - "not conceived?

Iwamoto (to Isaev): This is not about
that we are here talking about what can be
adapt ...

Isaev: And the authors - is not important? And if those
who wrote the program - will be offended? We
The authors are flawed, resent, as it
without their knowledge got into the program ...

ZONAL: The question is translated in the plane, we
wrote it badly - it only works
at the Pentagon ...

Iwamoto (to Isaev): This is not your
Care to talk about it, this is my concern.

ZONAL: So this argument is pointless ...

Iwamoto: What interested me in
"Scorpio" - a fully branded machine. We agree. The only
that it is not corporate - it's port # FD. In
original machine worked through this port
normal. If you do, the "Scorpion"
will be branded machine and more, in principle, does not need 
anything. 

ZONAL: You can also just as with
Addressing just FD on all ports handled correctly. As far as I 
know, no problems there.


Isaev: If your original Spectrum is working, and the "Scorpio" 
- does not work? About what the correct treatment can be said?


ZONAL: You're talking about a simple 128th
Spectrum ...

Isaev: This +2 and 2 A and 3 ...

ZONAL: There is no work there, no
program if it does not work on
Scorpio.

Isaev: You have two? Let us now
podedem, compare ...

ZONAL: Yes No I have now two ...

Isaev: And what if you so calm about
this mean?

ZONAL: Because I know the scheme, the architecture of the 
computer. 

Isaev: You are a developer, I understand. You must know about 
it. But there must be a You have a prototype to this lamer

As we show, and "rub": here's how it
on "Scorpio" works, here is how to
original car ...

ZONAL: Well, there is no such ...


Akimov: I can give you an example. While in
Chechnya is a war, while the military fight -
killing innocent civilians. So we have - in this
same situation are users. I
would like to see you took seriously the
that the user does not suffer. Then
is buying a program, he saw her working. I propose to support 
programmers Computer "Scorpio", while you, Sergey, to make the 
new model "Scorpion" some changes ... 

ZONAL: Absolutely ...


                *





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