Inferno #05
30 апреля 2004 |
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Iron - Once again, the protection circuits KR1818VG93.
Once again, the protection of KR1818VG93 Once again, the protection of KR1818VG93. KSA-7G Recently in our town died three floppy drive controller podryad.Pervy - through an electromagnetic pulse, and the rest themselves. Probably were already podpalennye. Personally, I do not burn, though long ago, when I picked her, not then, my PC at STEVE, the controller died. Like, from DAVE I heard that there is a fire-proof mikruhi, and seems to have such DAVE. Even at the Pentagon schemes 128 + written about the connection of output power 12 In the main terminal, in case the power supply through one of nih.Eto was done to the controller was applied immediately and 5, and 12V. Then I learned that the disappearance of 12B in the presence of +5 V mikruhu burns. Sad but true! Then he heard about some protection, but did not know what. And since I did not have documentation, I especially did not think about it, bought a spare mikruhi, propayal and obkonderil complex, and no problems bylo.Ya decided that the electronic key to the +5 V on VGshku, which turns off the power during the failure +12 V, is comparable in complexity and the fact reliability is normally collected by comp. Ie easier propayat or well to collect a block nutrition and self Speccy, than the city makeweights. As a result, reliability depends on the quality of used parts, and the risk of burning the controller part is proportional to their number. From the stories my Speccy. Prisvisnuty PSU (partnerovsky) does not always correctly included, but it worked, whistling horosho.Pozdnee dosvistelsya, I found a bad place and propayannoe zatknul it ... But once he ceased to be included, and I decided to buy a good PC-shny block supply. At 230 W power. And since they are sometimes explode (overvoltage does not stand varistor), bought a surge protector Pilot-GL, no regrets, as he removed picture noise from the fan PSU. Thinking about the possible failure stress on the network decided to put makeup literally seconds to ten (the batteries were old, but the food a while, I thought, pull). Collected charging scheme, but there was a problem ... You should have two voltages. I thought at the time of disabling the main support logic - as if the drive does not prescribe, we can survive even when a voltage is applied to seti.Takim, I decided to feed the 5V battery companies, and 12 do not feed. But the disk controller must nurture and because it is short, I decided use the capacity of 4700 uF. Of course, to eat only the controller, and Conder not discharged to the drive, put the diode. To reduce the losses - germanium, such as D9, anode at 12, the cathode to the controller and Conder plus (minus to minus Conder companies, of course). And an electronic switch with the relay to 12V, which is fed from another Conder large capacity. The idea is that when power failure an electronic switch was to connect the batteries to +5 V companies, with the controller and relays fed by Conder. By reducing the supply (if network and not included) relays logged in batteries - PC switched off. This has happened before sinking power controller, and therefore he could not burn. All would be nothing, but I have broken off with akkumulyatorami.Oni not not want to work, see, were already worn out - once I them given as unnecessary. In the end, I soldered scheme and threw batteries, but Conder recharge the controller and a diode ostavil.Ne were needed and not interfere with the scheme. Then I bought bespereboynik POWERCOM. AND time: started disruptions in the network, it is not just I vyruchil.Ni never fully discharged - the maximum switched off for 15 minutes. The passion to protect. When there were three unexpected combustion KR1818VG93, I thought it would be good somehow protect mikruhu. One friend said that it is done by two diodes, but I do not represented as possible, then he said that during the failure of the +12 V remain 5, and mikruha, though not working with this reduced, but not burnt. Then all became clear. This again feature the chip. After There mikruhi not tolerate even a small decline, but there are those who do not allow some logical options control signals (general insanity!) - some old PZUshki. Few of the most mikruhe KR1818VG93. According to data from some books Speccy, this chip, as an analogue of a imported or manufactured by the n-MOS technology. T.e.ispolzuyutsya transistors of one Type: field, n-channel MOS. This is the one hand, is easier to do, but the scheme within mikruhi more cumbersome. I suggest that to improve the reliability and performance using an additional supply voltage: +12 V. Main - +5 V. Additional uses for the same bias control voltage and current switching keys. In some cases, it is unlocked in the other (with inversion) zapirayuschee.Otsutstvie it may disrupt the logic mikruhi and cause a large pass-through current through its unbiased cascades. As a result, logic is overheating, and an unrecoverable thermal breakdown. It seems to be (long ago it was ... I do not remember), y faulty mikruhi increased temperatura.Normalny chip - just warm and dead - Tolerates hot. (Ed.: it depends.) If remember that power is not gobbling VGshkoy more than 0.5W, and the surface area is much more than an equally powerful resistor It will be really warm (not long to resistor kosneshsya) in good sostoyanii.Otsenka complicated by the fact that in a closed body temperature is much higher. But not be afraid, for adequate nutrition, even in the heat, the temperature is far from critical. For technical data, mikruha consumes less than 20mA of supply voltage +12 V. It can be assumed (quite logically) that at lower voltage consumption to +12 V current is also reduced, again, I will not argue, do not meryal.Zamechu that the decrease core logic supply may lead to increase current consumption due to violations of key modes, and possible self-excitation of individual kaskadov.No it refers to a complex scheme for single mikruhi unlikely. In any case, while reducing power within acceptable limits, and even slightly over the limit, there is a direct correlation - the current also decreases, while reducing the unacceptably strong - can dramatically increase. Favorable condition is the scheme without Conder in the food chain, it can fail for any reason. Usually in the literature on the application of the a series of chips indicate nominal capacitor and the number of chips for which you want to put Conder. Usually 1 Conder on 10 chips. Under these and load (output) conditions bessboynaya guaranteed work schemes of any complexity for any voltage in the permissible range (eg, TTL 4.75Ў5.25). If the voltage of +12 V will fall, but will not disappear entirely, the work KR1818VG93 violated - I can not imagine that it would create. But a small offset voltage will not allow a complete violation of modes and unlocking / electronic locking klyuchey.Tok consumption will grow to a certain limit, depending on the remaining voltage on the leg 40. Mikruha will bask and sboit.Pri further reduce the voltage of +12 V unregulated tokopotreblenie will increase and lead to overheating. Conclusion: do not allow the complete disappearance of the auxiliary voltage. Due to the nature mikruhi it allows you to dispel the increased power and does not overheat, if the stress on the leg 40 had not fallen below 4V. End of story. By opening your computer, I remembered the old English (supposedly) saying: "do not break - Do not touch "(or similar), confirmed by a couple of years ago: put the scheme 384X304, and the system passed out for a week due to imperceptible crumb of solder, it is unknown how did the ill-fated place. Well, since I decided to ... Withdrew flopogryz and fee (AY, Kempston Joy., Z80, amp.) unsolder barrel Conder (4700/16), which hung over kontrollerom.Odin diode already have - from the previous experiments, it remains to solder a diode from +5 V to the controller, and high-frequency, tradition, Conder 0.1mkF. Instinctively, I take tester and check the soldered diode - it is closed! Maybe I'll put a jumper somewhere ... But what for? Something I do not remember ... Unsolder diode checked - he's trying! Why would it? Certainly not to 20mA, which eats the controller! Maybe a marriage? However, remembering all the features I have connected circuitry, I understood why it happened. As is known, the rate of increase of supply voltage at the pulse blocks more than the transformer. The latter rectified voltage drops to the required, output, and because of the low (100Hz) frequency power using large containers that are not immediately charged, and, consequently, gradually increases the output voltage bloka.Poskolku frequency conversion of pulsed power supply is high, on their way out are Conder small capacity, and power supply very quickly established after inclusion. Of course, Conder's nutrition VGshki (I 4700mkF) requires a large current for fast charge, as its capacity is more than kodensatorov in switching power power, he is charged under the same conditions medlenney.A given more power power supply, ready to give more current to charge point germanium diode such current could not resist, here are his and struck - overheated, melted and locked inside ... I soldered a diode according to two new schemes protection, Conder 0.1mkF, and could turn off electrolyte (for me and so good food) but more interesting to solve the problem than to abandon it. The problem is that when you turn flows high current charge and must be abated. Of course, ideally put in series with Conder choke (inductor), but its value must be very large, and hence, inconvenient size. Can put a resistor, but such that the loss on it at a food VGshki from Conder were minimal. So I did ... Soldered in series with Conder rezyuk 10 Om.Mgnovenny charge current when you turn on will not exceed 1A, and will fall. Overloading will last no longer than a second, and germanium diodes (and transistors) allow great multiplicity of overload for a short period of time. With regard to the capacitor 0.1mkF, which is directly soldered to the diode without resistor, its charge time (due to low capacity) is much lower than rise voltage pulse, even the block. For several months I have hundreds of time includes the system, but diodes are not struck, so that the scheme is quite reliable. Scheme # 1. +12 | Diodes - almost all (thin) | ---+--- DalekOoo not the full list: | / | / KD521, KD522, KD503, KD510, D220 | / KD105, D106, KD509, KD102, KD103 ---+--- D223, D226, D7, D310, D311, D312 | (All with any letter index) | *------> The 40 th leg KR1818VG93 | / | Absolutely not be ISPO ---+--- Lzovat power and vysokovolt / | Nye diodes. Best germanium / | Curves (Ge) diodes. Namely: / | ---+--- D9B, D9G, D9D, D9E, D9I, D9K, D9M | | On the other letter is not used! +5 V The very minimum that is probably used by other companies and ORIONah 80-90 godov.Verhny diode - basic and nourishes mikruhu in normal mode (the presence of +12 V) and the lower operating in emergency mode (no +12). T.e.diody like change places for eating disorders. The implementation of the scheme # 1. Comfortable doing it on the back side board. But the track (+12 V power connector from to pin 40) may be from the other side. Look for the track and cut ee.Obychno everything can be checked visually. But not rely on A-EIGHTH, in doubt - check the tester. VGshka usually in the sockets, remove it, cut the track, can enable 5V power supply and check on the derivation of 21 and 0V at pin 40. At Pentagonah output diodes enough solder them to the back of the card directly from the XP3 connector pins B20, B21 to D90 stem 40, a diode from the 5V attached to a neighboring mikruhe D52 (LL1) leg 14. On other systems may have to extend the findings of the diodes. Better wire MGTF. Isolate conclusions can cambric suitable diameter, duct tape or duct tape. You can use the spray (TSAPONLAK) - it dries quickly and seals of (times 3 apply). But the main thing - it's soldered, good, accurate, she will keep diodes. Attention! If your card is just lying around in a plastic case, beneath the it at least a newspaper, not to split the diodes, especially germanium! Or collect the protection of the installation, my Speccy so is. Finally, check all visual, no polenites.Mozhete zvyaknut device shemu.Ot positive probe, with +5 V and +12 V to the negative probe of stem 40 readings should be much less (for resistance) than vice versa (from 40 feet to plus food com). Turn on PC without VGshki and trying voltage sockets (minus a leg at 20, plus on the leg 21 - must be 5V, and plus on foot 40 - should not be less than 11V). If the power is there, you can turn off the computer, insert (PRAVILNO!) VGshku and not be afraid for its fate. Otherwise, look for the cause of breakup, from the power supply and fault ending sverhprozhorlivym device, which you measured with a voltage. By the way, continuity scheme readings can vary smoothly due to overcharging of capacitors in circuits of power companies, so we have to wait when the rate of change in testimony did not reach the junior level in the second. Scheme # 2. +12 | I set it to all the Speccy | (Which serve at home) ---+--- Since 2003. | / | / Diodes are the same. | / ---+--- Conder makes life easier on failure. | | *-----------*----> The 40-th leg | | / KR1818VG93 | | ---+--- | / | ----- Capacitor at any / | ----- 0.1mkF. But it is more convenient / | | Date, is maximal ---+--- | FIR sizes. | | | ------ +5 V (minus common) Characterized by the presence of the capacitor, shunting the RF interference 12V. Need for it no, because with good nutrition constant component is much larger than Level pomeh.V normal work it does not affect, except that an insignificant (Percent) reduction in noise from the very VGshki. Another matter emergency power supply, t.e.ponizhennoe stress. If +12 V simply disappear, and 5V will be normal, Conder is not needed. Actually, this is the most likely emergency situatsiya.No may feed will be confused - interference may further overheating VGshku. Capacitor excludes the option of t.k.snizhaet oscillation amplitude to an acceptable level when Key performance mikruhi enough to respond to changing supply. On the one hand, it is absurd, t.k.pitanie contains a large electrolytic Conder containers that do not allow dangerous interference (but should be more simple nonpolar Conder, parallel polar optimalnoe ratio Cnepol = Cpol / (1e3Ў1e4)), with On the other hand, this is my konderny caprice I do not feel sorry for Conder for pure power. A How is your system? Maybe everyone already worn, posohlo ... The implementation of the scheme # 2. All similar to the first circuit, the capacitor also conveniently placed on the reverse side board. However, his body can rest on board and more stable to hold onto rations. Connect to negative on Pentagon'ah You can have D52 legs 7, the other systems, see for yourself. In one Tower'e fee Pentagon'a hung on the racks, I soldered Conder and a diode from the 5V with the reverse side, and a diode with 12V directly to the power cord and a wire connected to MGTF with the board (board was without connectors), himself a diode placed in kembrik.V finally cut a track on the board was not necessary. Of course, flopogryz ate a separate wire. Scheme # 3. +12 | How to serving my Speccy. | ---+-- | / Diodes were used and non-polar | / Conder - the same (see above). | / ---+--- Good scheme for a weak +12 V | | To the 40-kovoy *-----------*-------*-----> Leg | | / KR1818VG93 | | ---+--- | 10 Ohm / | ----- 0.125Vt / | ----- + / | | 4700mkF ---+--- | 16B | | +5 V (minus common) Differs from the previous presence RCtsepochki: polar capacitor rezistora.Eta scheme really makes sense for lousy food. Lousy, in the sense of understated - somewhere in derevne.Konechno if you have a switching power supply, can not worry, but if the transformer, and voltage on the verge of decline, it is better to put a zaschitu.Osobenno if the light is often prigasaet (vibrations noticeable to the eye). However, if you have a +12 V is obtained from the 18B above, we can not bespokoitsya.A if the 15V, and by Krenke (integral stabilizer with three legs), and flopohrust old type with an electromagnetic lock head ... In Overall, there may be problems ... Popular integral stabilizers eaten by at least 2 V difference between the input and napryazheniem.I weekends if you need to 12V Serve at least 14, or no stability budet.I not aware that under load the voltage drop at the entrance, and must supply at least 1.5V. Drive guzzles energy pulse, and lack of tension pulls the current, causing further decline in the +12 V, with VGshka this may fail. Remember, there were a writing files with errors? discs do not deteriorate in the evenings? Evening meal reduced, the people sitting at home watching all advertising and pop music ... This scheme saves from short-term voltage drops (literally 1-2 seconds). Energy is stored in a capacitor. Resistor is needed to limit the charging current (at inclusion). Without the resistor can punch diod.Rezistor can be removed if we use average power diode (D7), but it's same way. Enhance the capacity of the impractical it is dangerous for the upper diode and increase the resistance - increasing the loss of emergency power. In the diagram, 10 ohms, the loss of all 0.2V, but raise them nezhelatelno.Pri emergency power supply voltage has already reached 11B instead of 12 will decrease. Reduce the capacity impractical due to the reduction of time the emergency power, then it is better block normal power supply. The implementation of the scheme # 3. First, you can put diodes and nonpolar Conder, and then dopayat RC-chain. These parts are (at least, Conder) under the card is not relevant. We'll have to hang sverhu.Minus Conder to minus some mikruhi, the hole in the track power. Himself Conder mikruhi can be put on top, but if it is old - in an aluminum housing, it is better to wrap his tape to see if touched on other Conder, not locked power. Plus Conder solder to the resistor with long enough legs to reach the sockets VGshki. However, solder conclusion of the assembly to the leg sockets almost impossible, so the output resistor extension wire and slid under the plateau where and solder. Rezyuk insulating tape, adhesive tape or varnish. Fortunately, my Pentagon'e track Power of VGshki top, and I did not have pull the wire down. I cut the track and brought the whole scheme of the sockets, solder postings MGTF intersected by the track. True, Conder rests with VGshke, and without Desoldering mikruhu it is not replaced. Maybe someday throw this RC-chain, yet power supply current. Parts used in the schemes. If you find these components in the diagram, you can proceed to implementation, and If not found, then maybe you can help the following information. And also, if you are unsure about their knowledge and components ... Do not rely on the off chance! Selection of the diodes. In general, you can use more than 68% diodes, the old sample and 96% new. But because many of the old diodes are inconvenient in size, and new ones are not always well common, and I have a little background material on the diodes, I selected the most Popular diodes last century, checked their identities and indicated on the diagram of the series. Except in special cases can be used Diodes with any letter index (letter, written after the series). But germanium diodes is relatively weak, and so use is permitted only with letters. Generally, data on the diodes in the different references may be slightly different, and I chose the letters, which according to various sources will do. Diodes are selected by two parameters: the maximum (nominal) Average (over time) rectified current Ipr = 20mA (better if larger, then the loss of the diode is less than) the maximum reverse voltage Uobr not less than 7V. I do not remember the diodes are not suitable for voltage, but these are - a rare case (in particular, transitions transistors, so they better not as diodes use). More are diodes that are critical dc. You can vlepit two diodes in parallel, but we must remember that this is not resistors, and characteristics of the diodes must be equal, ie need to pick up the diodes with the same direct fall at the same temperature (to hold together a bit in one hand, and then compete separately). You can vlepit two diodes D9 with any letter in parallel instead of one, if consistent with each will rezyuk 10 Ohm any power and accuracy. To select diodes You do not need. The lowest voltage drop is expected (I have not tested), when used instead of two germanium diodes, transistors (base of collectors to join to form the cathode, and anode emitter will - for the pnp type). But selection is small, from small fit a GT115, the remaining few Ueb. However, I have data for all transistors. And the best just to buy diodes taste of suggested above. Cost no more than two rubles. Features selection of diodes. Why you should not use force and high voltage diodes? Well, power can be but they are great - uncomfortable and slightly increases current consumption at 12V (for leakage at 5 V) is, of course, to anything, but unlikely to cause crashes - unless the 12V frankly parshivoe.A here high voltage diodes can not be used! They have increased voltage drop and, consequently, reduced power to VGshku.Krome, some diodes actually consist of several (Volt poles, and therefore can withstand a large reverse voltage). Placing such diodes, can cause a paradoxical situation: to put protection to VGshka not burned, and she podohla from a lack of tension. Actually, why I prefer to use germanium diodes? They fall smaller than silicon, and fewer losses Power kontrollera.Konechno will work and with silicon - the difference is only a fraction volts. But someone has power and has worse reduced. Can I guarantee bessboynuyu work at an even greater decline? After not for nothing that food is 12V with a tolerance of 5%, and no 10-11B, it is critical to primeru.Osobenno with emergency power (lower LED on 5V) here is a question not a failure, and subsequent repair VGshki. If you have a good, well-regulated power supply, can not think of the type of diodes. If run down, it's better to put germanium. But warn once, germanium (D9) is usually in a more brittle-metal housing and require more careful handling than silicon (KD521). And if you are inexperienced in this case, place the silicon. There are still microcomponents, and diodes, too, They are inexpensive, and their parameters are probably should be fine, but I would not use them because of inconvenient miniature montazha.Nadezhnost can be reached kompaktnosti.No below if you are developing his scheme to the disk controller, it is You can use minikomponenty - take place on board specifically for nih.Pravda, they are made from silicon, germanium pro I have not heard anything. Selection of capacitors. All prosto.Rabochee voltage is not less 12B (previously issued such electrolytes) possible, but growing dimensions. It is better to buy a modern - small yellowish on 0.1mkF, because the old green pellets typically 63V and above - are inconvenient in size, and small flat green tantalum - a long time for all posdavali money. Modern cost in a matter of Dollars. But be careful with the solder away from housing, some badly assembled, easy come unsoldered. Electrolyte 4700mkF better imported, t.k.nashi dry. Modern, a voltage 16B - convenient small size and isolated case. At higher voltage should not be taken due to the increased size and prices. Will cost RUR 10. Well, rezyuk. Nominal value of 10 ohms each (up to 20%, old there were also 30%), precision and power. Better 0.125Vt power - it's small. More power is inconvenient to install and very expensive rezyuk. Little is worth 50 cents. Change denominations rezyuka and electrolyte I consider it inappropriate, it is better to give of Option 3, and gathered a good power supply, use Option 1 or 2. If you decide to put less Conder capacity (10-100mkF), the resistor must be at least 4.7 ohms. For larger capacity - 10 ohms, to a lesser can not put a resistor. (C) KSA-7G -------> Read the rest ...
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