Deja Vu #07
31 декабря 1997 |
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Hall of Fame - Crime - a hit by Triumph: the history of the Spectrum in Chelyabinsk.
AY-Track: XOKKEU HA TPABE ... __________________________________________ (C) Vader / Triumph __________________________________________ By P & M I N A L A Brief Introduction: This article is a 'cognitive information' and the desire with respect to its prochita [whether all, because 6 th Deja l [Vu was very brash in [Rides for Triumph (can D [say in Chelyabinsk, because [Triumph - is essentially a de [La is the Chelyabinsk). Priya [than write something it lamer from lamer, which is not respects than one victor. We long for him tolerated, but after this ... A little help: a better understanding and brevity, here under the 'rovers' means: Ice'Di Griz (he it is RoverSoft) and Blade (who long ago retired from RoverSoft'a). How it all began ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ It all began with what we (Wocen, Twister and I - Vader) met Ironman'om and part of the Omega Hackers Club. I write it's all for everyone to REALLY and independently, without outside "help" to assess the situation. So, after dating, we were overjoyed, Mr. as well acquainted with the legends of our cities, which have only heard and admired their work. All could not believe that Now our work will otsenevatsya such 'monsters' Speccy! We were invited to party, which brought together almost all of Omega. Of active debate, I realized that chtoto in this once great and powerful team not the same. Solved the main question: how do so that Omega once again ran at full capacity. But, unfortunately, nothing specific and did not dare. We safely passed the 'exam' (we are gently asked to write one protsedurku, which, ostensibly, they there was no time to write). But after some time Omega has collapsed completely and the It remained only groups and individuals: NSDF, ROVERSOFT, PUNGENCY, BLADE, CLEVERS, TNT2 ... Next were the events that to this issue, in my opinion, not irrelevant. First meeting ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ Time passed quietly, Chelyabinsk programmers more or less wrote the program, the artists painted the musicians wrote music until one "perfect" day does not appear Something (you, dear edition DEJA VU, it is called someone, and we have - something). Were we are on our radio market, our trading point, as always, almost all relating to Speccy, and discuss current issues, such as as protsedurku rewritten to make it work faster, etc. Approached it is something weight at least 160-170 pounds, so same amount, and after a short introduction, Type 'hello', the beginning of a big run over everything is already deeply established morality. First there was Kinuta phrase, such as: "STS v N. N. - SUX 'MUST DIE ", in the style of" I'm very smart. "We are on such a statement a little dumb not lost. STS has long been recognized, as the most BEST'ovy monitor debugger and usability and features. And then there is statement! The question: "What do you think of RULEZ ???", SOMETHING proudly replied:" SHADOW MONITOR !!!". In addition to wild laughter and compassion (for some), this statement does not caused. But back up a rotten market was nothing. What he is stitched into the ROM - this is its only advantage to the STS. But More - more. Was the latest attack: "All Your Profi together are not worth one my Scorp'a !!!". Again, we have long seen in practice that it is more convenient and steeper Opportunity than Profi 3 +, there is the Spectrum. As we crept in doubt about the mental health of this something, because he is rich or paranoid, or one of the two, because a normal person will not have doubts about the choice, although the prices (it was June 97 th): 1.600.000 - How much he spent on his Scorpion in full armor (at a time when no was still GMX) against 300.000 - cost Profi 3 + and about 200.000 Pentagon cost 128! I am not in any way want to offend the owners Scorpion'ov, it just the personal opinions of our spektrumistov (and users in particular) that Profi - rulez. After all this, it was stated that until the end August (3 months) he will write a play type 'Star Heritage', and the program and graphics will be only his! In this fact that we somehow did not believe her, and, incidentally, not in vain. As it turned out, something just began to learn assembler and idolized Basic, and the only program of its was a file wrapper (of course, on BASIC), which handles a few minutes drive (the bigger files, the more minutes). Well? That's "cool", where much to us, lamer to him? He then went to Rover's note - for straight from the tin software (by which I shall return), but once again had a row, apparently he did not like his high discrepancy Rovers moral status, and he left empty- slurp. A few months later (of course, "Star Legacy # 2" we have not waited for this), something has requested that his accepted into any group, really Believing that such a thing is possible after his behavior, which are expressed in one sentence: "I - steep, but you all - lamer and assholes ", she and Pearl from it. Lord (X-Rayzor) and Ironman (There were other, but they less well known) it, to put it mildly, was sent away and not finding a place to, SOMETHING again obos .. Lo all and happily vanished from the horizon Speccy. But as it turned out it was just the beginning. About It has become all forget about how bad dream, when rumors spread that he amassed his group (of two persons including it) and makes the third in Chelyabinsk Computer Magazine! This fact is alerted. Is on Basic'e?? As it turned out half of the codes (of course, a plate under IM2 is not created and for some reason end of the text was not determined), and, with the arrivals of type: "what the fuck, you lamer, put 20 LDI instead of one LDIR'a ???", hakerstvovat apparently learned during his absence from the radio market. Finally, he completed the his child, came to the market, handed out a copy, and, envelopes under the discs were signed - one in particular that copy relies, God forbid, hot! Distributed he was on Saturday, promising the next day come for the reviews, but did not come, and between others did the right thing. I do not know what he shoved the rest of (someone else copy that he asked me to convey, was kept intact - in fact a stranger! and an inner voice prompting - and suddenly there yet worse?), but judging from the reviews around, too, that to me, but I'm on this day at all to your computer and could not come up about half an hour after watching sat in shock, still could not believe that such a thing can be done! How fortunate that this 'masterpiece' is not dispersed throughout the country, otherwise it would be shame nemeryannom the entire city, after which People would say: "And this igruha from where was made that magazine?, then it's understandable. No, no, I do not need to show it, I'm so imagine ... "I did not embellish and not "savor," but if you are in the city will be like our SOMETHING, then you will understand what it is. I think it's time to remove the mask. SOMETHING, He also Mazyrko Boris, he's ram Saboteur, he Same ... Well it's a little later. After the 'release' his 'masterpiece' he called me in the middle of the week and said that afraid to come to market, they say, blame me Comrades, I'm sorry, forgive me, I do so I will not corrected and, if not before end, at least going to a much smaller something that was. I am not an evil person and trusting, I do almost everything, and pecked at the the bait. Thought, they say, wants a guy mend, asks for advice on how to live in the city, where according to him, no one respects and does not take seriously. Conversation Our lasted more than an hour, councils have been set, and ways of overcoming the current crisis was discussed further, and I in good conscience began to believe that he will good. Even began to convince all that he now at the stage of correction, do not interfere with a person, it will be good. He even came and urged all in the same, put all beer and wanted to sound all good and corrected, though it has long been known fact that the hunchback will fix only the grave. But no one I could not believe it either, and I once understood, that should be corrected me, and to fight in his character credulity. After a few months more something (something else:) reappeared on the market. Now he wants to rob the same sacred: the AMIGO! Walked in and shouted at each angle that pC - RULEZ, and AMMY - can only move the mouse. As, Boris, to know their words, eh? While you're once again going to shrug, and say that this never happened, and someone tries to thee 'discredit'. Then, after a collision, he again disappears for a while and appears in a new guise, therefore, meet: ALLEN! new ideas and trying to forget the old. Although I still have a personal grievance has not passed (by saying that the guitar is played only fools, but he is not going to get those), but my trust again manifested itself, and this time I hid it all deeper. Walking, picking on me (which I told him so 'pleased'?), they say, tell me please, what in your opinion, should have features a graphical editor, and with the print (of course, Scorpion'ovsky printer port) Image size, limited only by the size of the printer. Y-yes, I think that kid has grown up (in fact became even more), the more that I once cherished the same idea, but did not dealing with it, having concluded for themselves that the Speccy needs more new games rather than sistemki, but he laid all his ideas on this subject. He is delighted, once again disappears. Later certain time, it appears to drive in their hands and gave it to me. The question: "What it ???", first broke, but then replied, that this is his new development (probably tired of the old design) - Multi-tasking on the Speccy! I smiled, but took the 'check out'. Now for me it works produced a completely different effect: when I saw this, they almost fell off the chair from laughter. Imagine: every INT processor busy with different things: first, playing music, then draws an arrow, and then (in that order) prints text. I was absolutely convinced that music playback through two Inta and transactions with arrow, again after two Inta, coolness program by no means add, and I This convinced even more. Because printed arrow first and then on top of her text, in addition to flashing effects, there were many glitches in the motion direction. After various amount of time it hangs and was discharged, apparently, my computer, too, could not it is easy to carry. At all other our This produced approximately the same effect, but he persisted, arguing that it only the beginning (eg, yes, imagine what will be further, although not so impossible to imagine ...), and it's even like someone! It at first quietly, then more insistently asked 'disappear' at least from the face radio market and do not spoil the whole mood and not waste anyone nervous, but he did not succumbed to these blandishments, and vice versa, was regular visits to our market. He then disappeared again, and as it turned out, went to the ART COMP in Barrow, where, I see very well brainwashed Kurgantsy about TRIUMPH vs ALLEN (RAM SABOTEUR), although all denied claiming that they're talking only on the Speccy, and even Profi not touched. And now And then it began our extensive and INTER problems because of it. For example, he started a rumor that Flash heavily on us all offended and no longer wants to lead us perepisku.Estestvenno, This was another run ... All this was written to you understand who wrote this article. Revenge ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ ∙ We now consider on the shelves of his' cry soul '. Guess why he asked not be named? Yes, because no one wanted his 'Glory', which is attributed to us and to me personally. More ... <'... all that is written here is the full truth and no way glossed emotions ...'.> There are no words ... see below. <'A Tale of (exactly) Evil Vader-traders'.> Firstly, thank you wrote me capitalized. Now, regarding the evil. Not evil, but straight. This is my problem - to say everything 'in the eyes' and come clean. All that I think on some subject under discussion, I will fully, without beautiful. Therefore, it is me (and another one someone, because of the similarity of thinking) are all its new developments, so I can make constructive criticism for further improvements and bug fixes. You, Bob, did just as well (pouring their software garbage to me). So, you see, used to having you lick your friends Well .. have a wide and adjusts to you. And then, suddenly, you get so cruel resistance, and, above all from me. You it is strongly disliked, am I right? And swore we're on-the-very often. And after all that you can write 'is not glossed over emotions'? It is the habitual of resentment that you have taken the entire country! Now, regarding the 'naikruteyshego Don Carleone '. Why do you really respect him so? Yes, because Vasya very subtle psychologist and a good politician who has never fully favors. This is his chief characteristic - all be good, joke, discuss something, so none of his acquaintance, for only close friends can not tell how it applies to anyone - all equally well. That is what you in it and liked it. A hangouts in our market - it already very long tradition. <'... But the money he has amassed, and opened shop where sidyukami and parts _pTs_ trading began. "> First, the question on filling: what Carleone money saved up suddenly, and even at his own firm, I do not trade with a Spectrum disks?? Secondly, what is you suddenly radically changed its position on about the 'PC', eh?? This is your favorite car! Of course, if you write in a journal like DEJA VU, it is necessary to maintain the universal (almost) felt otherwise suddenly zaneuvazhayut! Chameleon wretch! <'... and his work, he gave little-known man Vader'u ...'> While such a person was just you, not me. Vasya - a businessman with 15 years of age and 'unfamiliar' man never did do not trust. All the details you could not know, because that is their one and you will not open! <'... but he was Zhader MAZAFAKEROM ...'> W> Boris, if you want your claims were taken seriously, then you worth at least learn how to choose an expression for appeals to people who never allowed themselves to such phrases, the more the whole country. <'... skorefanilsya he rovers troesvappnymi, nove broken supplying ...'> V> How can you argue that the entire soft break when you do not know of whom he comes in and in what form. <'... and software that has been thrice broken line four twisted ...'> By the way, if you do not come to four twisted "license" DEJA VU # 5?? <'... and only the ring and have to do something ... so breaks it all Wocen ... Hacker he the greatest of the encoder and three steep, breaking and prihvalival myself, yes intruhi pasted.> W> Firstly, who are you to scribbled their opinions about somebody. To start it would not hurt a bit adolescent, but not zavidyvat when someone compliments me. About the intro ... What, so many of my intro saw that they had time to get bored, or you very weakly nakodit it? Second: I did not break in order to break down. A Third, you're right, remove the set glitches of the authors themselves and learn new methods of protection and not for the inscription 'Cracked by ', what do you, Bob, will never understand. V> If the author was asked not to sell them prog, but check out, it never and not sold, at least I did not sell. If you remember, I installed a dictatorship WORK on Speccy in our city, which is based on the fact that nobody will get any software, until present your work: either the picture or program-general who can. Here there and blocked the route of exposure for you novya, which greatly angered you, and I for You just then became Zhaderom. <'... and he was selling, but the money itself rowed ...'> Let's look at the profits. I do not know how things are with that in other cities, but we have a place in the radio market worth 55.50 rubles for one day of trading (If you use a network 220, which we use to interact with the computer directly the market). Discs are from 5 to 10 rubles. On average, a good day, it turns 60-70 rubles, of which 55.50 goes to pay for their seats. You're right, just enough for a cigarette. I'm not saying that there are no days obtained when 100 rubles, and then more and even then only because it comes to any seller of Chrysostom, for example, gaining direct large quantities for resale. And by the way, it does not say that he is buying for resale. But often happens that you get 30-40 rubles day, and yet must still pay for the place! A who is for me to make new envelopes to disks, would get a blank disc, which we A huge deficit, and buy a new tape to printer, which quickly ends? Good uncle, or you, Bob? But it's all also costs money. Several years ago, when it was engaged Carleone and Speccy was virtually everyone, the money came nemeryannom, all did not end until the the market closes. Go ahead. <'... and learned about SOMETHING, sorry Someone who ... and he began to offer half fold, but License to Software to buy.> Something with your memory was, Boris. Popolo You never offered to throw off. Your only suggestion was to buy a license for 50 rubles at DEJA VU # 5 (After another scandal arranged by you again), and in good conscience sell it. You do not remember what I said then? And what magazines we buy in the city only 3 people. This is what I sell 1 magazine for 16.06 rubles? And you think that someone will buy it? That's what were talking, and I said that if this I was not at a loss, I'd have a legitimate distributor, even if I did not get to with this penny would be paid for only costs. This is what I always say. I always supported the idea of editorial DEJA VU about a single point where anyone can order a licensed program from This all was only better and to me that including - to not waste your nerves and not the frost would half-ass on the street at -25 ° C, but about that you somehow forgot to mention. <'... but Zhader trizazhravshiysya posted with the greatest of arrogance that software to Rover trizhdylomanny comes faster than releasing it into the official distribution. '> If anyone of us and snickering, it is not Do you, Bob? You got me quite an idiot accept? I'm still not completely crazy that such a claim! Even children understand that the official product appears immediately after the release, and a broken too can not get ahead of the official! While it sounds like to hakkerskim hands already many people will get, if they wish, official! Once again I repeat that I am all hands for licensed software, but either out of the hands the author, as did Mednonogov or from Official Distributor of "Inforkom'a. And the outlets in each city in this scenario, only raise the cost of programs. But these are my comments 'accidentally' flew out of your head. <'... and he shouted that we can not fly software, and then everything on the Amiga, but on the PC will go, and stop writing ...'> Here is a phrase so what! Honestly, no matter how hard I tried, and failed remember how I IS 'shouted'! Even with deep hangover, I could not blurt out such. And I just said to myself that I not only can, but do not want to buy the Amiga, because on the Speccy I do not write anything good. It would not shouting that "They say, when I buy myself pC, or Amiga, I necessarily going to draw, kodit, write music on Speccy ", I will never believe it, because of the serious product with the man never fails, just look has to be 'little' with high: then, suddenly, the memory was not enough for effect, or the rate of frail, then 4 -bit sound suddenly began to play poorly, etc. etc. That's what I really yelled, and called All remain on the Speccy! You, Bob, memory failure, but with serious enough! <'... And he ordered the magazine troenaikruteyshy (subservience not feel?), DEJA VU # 5, and came to him that the magazine ... without any protection and without problems, and the license, and working on wheelbarrows any ...'> Remember, remember ... With no working partition 'schA tell. " We even sinful deed thought there was something about your tricks, Bob, and you hacked it and zapoganil the whole article. This is licensed software! Bravo! What do you yell that all license - fully working, why do not follow the same capacity for work HIS product? Oh, and about efficiency. Why DEJA VU 1-3 do not work in Profi - mode and does not respect the TURBO?! Sorry, but if you get the money for it, or want to be, then, first of all, MUST done qualitatively, not only would have worked, and even an emulator! I imagine that this has been written SOMETHING, parked behind the scenes in the text, and I am sure ohaen that it's not just me. Here, this SOMETHING submitted a hero and you are not wondering whether he has licensed software? I would say that apart from DEJA VU, and Black Raven'a nothing else he did not have a license. And tell me, trezhadnomu where to get a license, for example, by DIZZY 1-5, eh? To go abroad? Hesitated? That's it. Talking about the license must be reasonable and not raking it all in one pile. Thank you, Ze Pagan, for a memorial prayer, but what way you decided to take care of my career, because I like Bob, forget that I was once Vader'om, come up with something new and live quietly. But this I will not do. And if you want to come here, I will only too happy to discuss with you all in real-time conversation, and I'm sure you largely agree with me. Once again I repeat that I do not want to trade on the market, the more without a license. But where will nick get new programs, no single address, given that the information new revenue is completely absent. Moreover, may arrange another any office a la 'overfile'. And they will be get it in stores, only this time pCshnyh. I do not have to be such a monster, the more that I will soon touch the problem of the spread of the game, which I have quite a direct bearing on ... I believe that the subject is not closed and requires a good discussion and competent decisions, not those fakes like that 'cry from the heart', after which, incidentally, I have greatly undermined confidence in the veracity of the informations that you bring in magazine. This text I do not seek to justify, simply bring the real facts about the stalemate with the author rights to the Speccy, which must be necessarily correct. I, in turn, that of I will depend, I'll try to do because it is necessary not only to shout 'give copyright compliance-off hackers' but also to take concrete actions to implement immediately. Otherwise, can not see us luck! And while such action will not be sold, nor in Chelyabinsk, nor somewhere else - nothing changes! Waiting for an answer either on the pages of your magazine, or our own, but always forward. Write to all who are interested in this problem. Sincerely: Vader 'all others of Triumph. The text is written Vader'om, edited all Triumph'a. DATE: 24.11.98 At least, all stuff of Triumph: ------------------------------. X-Raizor as main organizer, fixer; . Vader as co-organizer, koder; . Ice'Di Griz as main swapper, graphist, supplier; . Blade as designer, swapper, graphist, some koder; . Wocen as koder; . Loki as koder, designer; . Bytic as graphist; . Voodoo as Amiga Render-Ray Trace supplier 'Graphist; . Cooler as hardwarer, mailer, simple very cool man; . Jam as musician; . Smoke as koder; . Edison as looker; . Wizard as graphist; . Jim as koder, protecter; . Mr.Di as graphist, koder.
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