Deja Vu #07
31 декабря 1997

Hall of Fame - Crime - a hit by Triumph: the history of the Spectrum in Chelyabinsk.

<b>Hall of Fame</b> - Crime - a hit by Triumph: the history of the Spectrum in Chelyabinsk.
AY-Track: XOKKEU HA TPABE ...
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(C) Vader / Triumph
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             By P & M I N A L



   A Brief Introduction: This article is a 'cognitive 
information' and the desire                  with respect to 
its prochita [whether all, because 6 th Deja l [Vu was very 
brash in   [Rides for Triumph (can

D [say in Chelyabinsk, because

  [Triumph - is essentially a de
  [La is the Chelyabinsk). Priya [than write something it lamer

                 from lamer, which is not
respects than one victor. We long for him
tolerated, but after this ...


   A little help: a better understanding and brevity, here 
under the 'rovers' means: Ice'Di Griz (he it is RoverSoft) and 
Blade (who long ago retired from RoverSoft'a). 


            How it all began

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   It all began with what we (Wocen,
Twister and I - Vader) met Ironman'om and part of the Omega 
Hackers Club. I write it's all for everyone to REALLY

and independently, without outside "help" to assess the 
situation. So, after dating, we were overjoyed, Mr.

as well acquainted with the legends of our
cities, which have only heard and admired their work. All could 
not believe that Now our work will otsenevatsya such 'monsters' 
Speccy! We were invited to party, which brought together almost 
all of Omega. Of active debate, I realized that chtoto in this 
once great and powerful team not the same. Solved the main 
question: how do so that Omega once again ran at full capacity. 
But, unfortunately, nothing specific and did not dare. We safely

passed the 'exam' (we are gently asked to write one 
protsedurku, which, ostensibly, they there was no time to 
write). But after some time Omega has collapsed completely and 
the It remained only groups and individuals: NSDF, ROVERSOFT, 
PUNGENCY, BLADE, CLEVERS, TNT2 ... Next were the events that to 
this issue, in my opinion, not irrelevant.



            First meeting

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   Time passed quietly, Chelyabinsk programmers more or less 
wrote the program, the artists painted the musicians wrote 
music until one "perfect" day does not appear

Something (you, dear edition DEJA VU, it is
called someone, and we have - something). Were
we are on our radio market, our trading
point, as always, almost all relating to
Speccy, and discuss current issues, such as
as protsedurku rewritten to make it work faster, etc. 
Approached it is something weight at least 160-170 pounds, so

same amount, and after a short introduction,
Type 'hello', the beginning of a big run over
everything is already deeply established morality.
First there was Kinuta phrase, such as: "STS v N.
N. - SUX 'MUST DIE ", in the style of" I'm very smart. "We are 
on such a statement a little dumb not lost. STS has long been 
recognized, as the most BEST'ovy monitor debugger and

usability and features. And then there is
statement! The question: "What do you think of RULEZ ???", 
SOMETHING proudly replied:" SHADOW MONITOR !!!". In addition to 
wild laughter and compassion (for some), this statement does 
not caused. But back up a rotten market was

nothing. What he is stitched into the ROM - this is its only 
advantage to the STS. But More - more. Was the latest attack: 
"All Your Profi together are not worth one

my Scorp'a !!!". Again, we have long
seen in practice that it is more convenient and steeper
Opportunity than Profi 3 +, there is the Spectrum. As we crept 
in doubt about the mental health of this something, because he 
is rich or paranoid, or one of the two, because a normal person 
will not have doubts about the choice, although the prices (it 
was June 97 th): 1.600.000 - How much he spent on his Scorpion 
in full armor (at a time when no

was still GMX) against 300.000 - cost
Profi 3 + and about 200.000 Pentagon cost 128! I am not in any 
way want to offend the owners Scorpion'ov, it just the personal 
opinions of our spektrumistov (and users in particular) that 
Profi - rulez. After all this, it was stated that until the end 
August (3 months) he will write a play type 'Star Heritage', 
and the program and graphics will be only his! In this

fact that we somehow did not believe her, and, incidentally,
not in vain. As it turned out, something just
began to learn assembler and idolized Basic, and the only 
program of its was a file wrapper (of course, on

BASIC), which handles a few minutes drive (the bigger files, 
the more minutes). Well? That's "cool", where much to us, lamer 
to him? He then went to Rover's note - for straight from the 
tin software (by which I shall return), but once again had a 
row, apparently he did not like his high discrepancy Rovers 
moral status, and he left empty- slurp. A few months later (of 
course, "Star Legacy # 2" we have not waited for this), 
something has requested that his accepted into any group, really

Believing that such a thing is possible after
his behavior, which are expressed in one sentence: "I - steep, 
but you all - lamer and assholes ", she and Pearl from it. Lord

(X-Rayzor) and Ironman (There were other, but they
less well known) it, to put it mildly, was sent away and not 
finding a place to, SOMETHING again obos .. Lo all and happily 
vanished from the horizon Speccy. But as it turned out it was 
just the beginning. About It has become all forget about how 
bad dream, when rumors spread that he amassed his group (of two 
persons including it) and makes the third in Chelyabinsk

Computer Magazine! This fact is alerted.
Is on Basic'e?? As it turned out half of the codes (of course, 
a plate under IM2 is not created and for some reason end of the 
text was not determined), and, with the arrivals of type: "what 
the fuck, you lamer, put 20 LDI instead of one LDIR'a ???", 
hakerstvovat apparently learned during his absence from the 
radio market. Finally, he completed the his child, came to the 
market, handed out a copy, and, envelopes under the discs were 
signed - one in particular that copy relies, God forbid, hot! 
Distributed he was on Saturday, promising the next day

come for the reviews, but did not come, and between
others did the right thing. I do not know what he
shoved the rest of (someone else copy that
he asked me to convey, was kept intact - in fact a stranger! 
and an inner voice prompting - and suddenly there yet worse?), 
but judging from the reviews around, too, that to me, but I'm 
on this day at all to your computer and could not come up about 
half an hour after watching sat in shock, still could not

believe that such a thing can be done! How fortunate that this 
'masterpiece' is not dispersed throughout the country, 
otherwise it would be shame nemeryannom the entire city, after 
which People would say: "And this igruha from where

was made that magazine?, then it's understandable.
No, no, I do not need to show it, I'm so
imagine ... "I did not embellish and
not "savor," but if you are in the city will be like our 
SOMETHING, then you will understand what it is.


   I think it's time to remove the mask. SOMETHING,
He also Mazyrko Boris, he's ram Saboteur, he
Same ... Well it's a little later.

   After the 'release' his 'masterpiece' he
called me in the middle of the week and said that
afraid to come to market, they say, blame me
Comrades, I'm sorry, forgive me, I do so I will not corrected 
and, if not before end, at least going to a much smaller

something that was. I am not an evil person and trusting, I do 
almost everything, and pecked at the the bait. Thought, they 
say, wants a guy mend, asks for advice on how to live

in the city, where according to him, no one
respects and does not take seriously. Conversation
Our lasted more than an hour, councils have been set, and ways 
of overcoming the current crisis was discussed further, and I 
in good conscience began to believe that he will good. Even 
began to convince all that he now at the stage of correction, 
do not interfere with a person, it will be good. He even came 
and urged all in the same, put all beer and wanted to sound all 
good and corrected, though it has long been known

fact that the hunchback will fix only the grave.
But no one I could not believe it either, and I
once understood, that should be corrected
me, and to fight in his character credulity. After a few months 
more something (something else:) reappeared on the market. Now 
he wants to rob the same sacred: the AMIGO! Walked in and 
shouted at each angle that pC - RULEZ, and AMMY - can only move 
the mouse. As, Boris, to know their words, eh? While you're 
once again going to shrug, and say that this never happened, 
and someone tries to thee 'discredit'. 

   Then, after a collision, he again
disappears for a while and appears in a new guise, therefore, 
meet: ALLEN! new ideas and trying to forget the old. Although

I still have a personal grievance has not passed (by saying 
that the guitar is played only fools, but he is not going to 
get those), but my trust again manifested itself, and this time 
I hid it all deeper. Walking, picking on me (which I told him

so 'pleased'?), they say, tell me please, what in your opinion, 
should have features a graphical editor, and with the print (of 
course, Scorpion'ovsky printer port) Image size, limited only 
by the size of the printer. Y-yes, I think that kid has grown 
up (in fact became even more), the more that I once cherished 
the same idea, but did not dealing with it, having concluded 
for themselves that the Speccy needs more new games rather than 
sistemki, but he laid all his ideas on this subject.

He is delighted, once again disappears. Later
certain time, it appears to drive
in their hands and gave it to me. The question: "What
it ???", first broke, but then replied,
that this is his new development (probably
tired of the old design) - Multi-tasking on the Speccy! I 
smiled, but took the 'check out'. Now for me it works produced 
a completely different effect: when I saw this, they almost 
fell off the chair from laughter. Imagine: every INT processor

busy with different things: first, playing music, then draws an 
arrow, and then (in that order) prints text. I was absolutely 
convinced that music playback through two Inta and transactions 
with arrow, again after two Inta, coolness program by no means 
add, and I This convinced even more. Because printed arrow 
first and then on top of her text, in addition to flashing 
effects, there were many glitches in the motion direction. 
After various amount of time it hangs and was discharged, 
apparently, my computer, too, could not it is easy to carry. At 
all other our This produced approximately the same effect, but 
he persisted, arguing that it only the beginning (eg, yes, 
imagine what will be further, although not so impossible to 
imagine ...), and it's even like someone! 

   It at first quietly, then more insistently asked 'disappear' 
at least from the face radio market and do not spoil the whole 
mood and not waste anyone nervous, but he did not

succumbed to these blandishments, and vice versa, was
regular visits to our market. He then
disappeared again, and as it turned out, went to the ART
COMP in Barrow, where, I see very well
brainwashed Kurgantsy about TRIUMPH
vs ALLEN (RAM SABOTEUR), although all denied
claiming that they're talking only
on the Speccy, and even Profi not touched. And now
And then it began our extensive and INTER problems because of 
it. 

   For example, he started a rumor that Flash
heavily on us all offended and no longer
wants to lead us perepisku.Estestvenno,
This was another run ...

   All this was written to you
understand who wrote this article.


                  Revenge

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   We now consider on the shelves of his' cry
soul '.

   Guess why he asked not be named? Yes, because no one wanted 
his 'Glory', which is attributed to us and to me personally. 
More ... 

   <'... all that is written here is
the full truth and no way glossed emotions ...'.>

   There are no words ... see below.

   <'A Tale of (exactly) Evil Vader-traders'.>

   Firstly, thank you wrote me
capitalized. Now, regarding the evil.
Not evil, but straight. This is my
problem - to say everything 'in the eyes' and come clean. All 
that I think on some subject under discussion, I will fully, 
without beautiful. Therefore, it is me (and another one

someone, because of the similarity of thinking) are
all its new developments, so I can make constructive criticism 
for further improvements and bug fixes. You, Bob, did just as 
well (pouring their software garbage to me). So, you see, used 
to having you lick your friends Well .. have a wide and adjusts 
to you. And then, suddenly, you get so cruel

resistance, and, above all from me. You
it is strongly disliked, am I right? And swore we're 
on-the-very often. And after all that you can write 'is not 
glossed over emotions'? It is the habitual of resentment that 
you have taken the entire country! 

   Now, regarding the 'naikruteyshego Don
Carleone '. Why do you really respect him so?
Yes, because Vasya very subtle psychologist
and a good politician who has never fully favors. This is his 
chief characteristic - all be good, joke, discuss

something, so none of his acquaintance, for
only close friends can not tell how it applies to anyone - all
equally well. That is what you in it and
liked it. A hangouts in our market - it
already very long tradition.

   <'... But the money he has amassed, and opened
shop where sidyukami and parts _pTs_
trading began. ">

   First, the question on filling: what
Carleone money saved up suddenly, and even at his own firm, I 
do not trade with a Spectrum disks?? Secondly, what is you 
suddenly radically changed its position on about the 'PC', eh?? 
This is your favorite car! Of course, if you write in a journal 
like DEJA VU, it is necessary to maintain the universal 
(almost) felt otherwise suddenly zaneuvazhayut! Chameleon 
wretch! 

   <'... and his work, he gave little-known man Vader'u ...'>

   While such a person was just
you, not me. Vasya - a businessman with 15 years of age
and 'unfamiliar' man never did
do not trust. All the details you could not
know, because that is their one and you
will not open!

   <'... but he was Zhader MAZAFAKEROM ...'>

   W> Boris, if you want your claims were taken seriously, then 
you worth at least learn how to choose an expression for 
appeals to people who never allowed themselves to such phrases, 
the more the whole country.


   <'... skorefanilsya he rovers troesvappnymi, nove broken 
supplying ...'> 

   V> How can you argue that the entire
soft break when you do not know of
whom he comes in and in what form.

   <'... and software that has been thrice broken line
four twisted ...'>

   By the way, if you do not come to four twisted "license" 
DEJA VU # 5?? 

   <'... and only the ring and have to do something ... so
breaks it all Wocen ... Hacker he the greatest of the encoder 
and three steep, breaking and prihvalival myself, yes intruhi 
pasted.> 

   W> Firstly, who are you to scribbled their opinions about 
somebody. To start it would not hurt a bit adolescent, but not 
zavidyvat when someone compliments me. About the intro ... 
What, so many of my intro saw that they had time to get bored, 
or you very weakly nakodit it? Second: I did not break in order 
to break down. A Third, you're right, remove the set

glitches of the authors themselves and learn new
methods of protection and not for the inscription 'Cracked
by ', what do you, Bob, will never understand.

   V> If the author was asked not to sell them
prog, but check out, it never
and not sold, at least
I did not sell. If you remember, I installed a dictatorship 
WORK on Speccy in our city, which is based on the fact that 
nobody will get any software, until present your work: either 
the picture or program-general who can. Here there and blocked 
the route of exposure for you novya, which greatly angered you, 
and I for You just then became Zhaderom.


   <'... and he was selling, but the money itself
rowed ...'>

   Let's look at the profits.
I do not know how things are with that in other cities, but we 
have a place in the radio market worth 55.50 rubles for one day 
of trading (If you use a network 220, which we

use to interact with the computer directly
the market). Discs are from 5 to 10 rubles.
On average, a good day, it turns 60-70 rubles, of which 55.50 
goes to pay for their seats. You're right, just enough for a 
cigarette. I'm not saying that there are no days obtained when 
100 rubles, and then more and even then only because it comes 
to any seller of Chrysostom, for example, gaining direct large 
quantities for resale. And by the way, it does not say that he 
is buying for resale. But often happens that you get 30-40 
rubles day, and yet must still pay for the place! A

who is for me to make new envelopes to disks, would get a blank 
disc, which we A huge deficit, and buy a new tape to

printer, which quickly ends?
Good uncle, or you, Bob? But it's all
also costs money. Several years ago, when it was engaged 
Carleone and Speccy was virtually everyone, the money came 
nemeryannom, all did not end until the the market closes.


   Go ahead.

   <'... and learned about SOMETHING, sorry
Someone who ... and he began to offer half
fold, but License to Software to buy.>

   Something with your memory was, Boris. Popolo You never 
offered to throw off. Your only suggestion was to buy a license 
for 50 rubles at DEJA VU # 5 (After another scandal arranged by 
you again), and in good conscience sell it. You do not remember 
what I said then? And what magazines we buy in the city only 3 
people. This is what I sell 1 magazine for 16.06 rubles? And 
you think that someone will buy it? That's what were talking, 
and I said that if this I was not at a loss, I'd have a 
legitimate distributor, even if I did not get to with this 
penny would be paid for only costs. This is what I always say. I

always supported the idea of ​​editorial DEJA VU
about a single point where anyone can
order a licensed program from
This all was only better and to me that
including - to not waste your nerves and not the frost would
half-ass on the street at -25 ° C, but about
that you somehow forgot to mention.

   <'... but Zhader trizazhravshiysya posted
with the greatest of arrogance that software to Rover
trizhdylomanny comes faster than releasing it into the official 
distribution. '> 

   If anyone of us and snickering, it is not
Do you, Bob? You got me quite an idiot
accept? I'm still not completely crazy that such a claim! Even 
children understand that the official product appears 
immediately after the release, and a broken too can not get 
ahead of the official! While it sounds like to hakkerskim hands 
already many people will get, if they wish, official! Once 
again I repeat that I am all hands for licensed software, but 
either out of the hands the author, as did Mednonogov or from

Official Distributor of "Inforkom'a. And the outlets in each 
city in this scenario, only raise the cost of

programs. But these are my comments 'accidentally' flew out of 
your head. 

   <'... and he shouted that we can not fly
software, and then everything on the Amiga, but on the PC will 
go, and stop writing ...'>


   Here is a phrase so what! Honestly, no matter how hard I 
tried, and failed remember how I IS 'shouted'! Even with deep 
hangover, I could not blurt out such. And I just said to myself 
that I not only can, but do not want to buy the Amiga, because 
on the Speccy I do not write anything good. It would not 
shouting that "They say, when I buy myself pC, or Amiga, I

necessarily going to draw, kodit, write
music on Speccy ", I will never believe it, because of the 
serious product with the man never fails, just look has to be 
'little' with high: then, suddenly, the memory was not enough 
for effect, or the rate of frail, then 4 -bit sound suddenly 
began to play poorly, etc. etc. That's what I really yelled, 
and called All remain on the Speccy! You, Bob,

memory failure, but with serious enough!

   <'... And he ordered the magazine troenaikruteyshy 
(subservience not feel?), DEJA VU # 5, and came to him that the 
magazine ... without any protection and without problems, and 
the license, and working on wheelbarrows any ...'>


   Remember, remember ... With no working partition 'schA tell. 
" We even sinful deed thought there was something about your 
tricks, Bob, and you hacked it and zapoganil the whole article. 
This is licensed software! Bravo! What do you yell that all 
license - fully working, why do not follow the same capacity 
for work HIS product? Oh, and about efficiency.

Why DEJA VU 1-3 do not work in Profi -
mode and does not respect the TURBO?! Sorry, but
if you get the money for it, or want to be, then, first of all, 
MUST done qualitatively, not only would have worked,

and even an emulator!

   I imagine that this has been written SOMETHING,
parked behind the scenes in the text, and I am sure
ohaen that it's not just me.

   Here, this SOMETHING submitted a hero and
you are not wondering whether he has
licensed software? I would say that apart from DEJA
VU, and Black Raven'a nothing else he did not have a license. 
And tell me, trezhadnomu where to get a license, for example,

by DIZZY 1-5, eh? To go abroad? Hesitated? That's it. Talking 
about the license must be reasonable and not raking it all in 
one pile. 

   Thank you, Ze Pagan, for a memorial
prayer, but what way you decided to take care of my career, 
because I like Bob, forget that I was once Vader'om, come up 
with something new and live quietly. But this I will not do. 
And if you want to come here, I will only too happy to discuss 
with you all in real-time conversation, and I'm sure you 
largely agree with me. Once again I repeat that I do not want 
to trade on the market, the more without a license. But where 
will nick get new programs, no single address, given that the 
information new revenue is completely absent.

Moreover, may arrange another any office a la 'overfile'. And 
they will be get it in stores, only this time pCshnyh. I do not 
have to be such a monster, the more that I will soon touch the 
problem of the spread of the game, which I have quite a direct 
bearing on ... 

   I believe that the subject is not closed and requires a good 
discussion and competent decisions, not those fakes like that 
'cry from the heart', after which, incidentally, I have greatly 
undermined confidence in the veracity of the informations that 
you bring in magazine.


   This text I do not seek to justify, simply bring the real 
facts about the stalemate with the author rights to the Speccy, 
which must be necessarily correct. I, in turn, that of I will 
depend, I'll try to do because it is necessary not only to 
shout 'give copyright compliance-off hackers'

but also to take concrete actions to implement immediately. 
Otherwise, can not see us luck! And while such action

will not be sold, nor in Chelyabinsk, nor
somewhere else - nothing changes!

   Waiting for an answer either on the pages of your
magazine, or our own, but always forward.
Write to all who are interested in this problem.


                              Sincerely:

      Vader 'all others of Triumph.

The text is written Vader'om, edited all Triumph'a. DATE: 
24.11.98 


At least, all stuff of Triumph:
------------------------------. X-Raizor as main organizer, 
fixer; . Vader as co-organizer, koder;

. Ice'Di Griz as main swapper, graphist,
 supplier;
. Blade as designer, swapper, graphist,
 some koder;
. Wocen as koder;
. Loki as koder, designer;
. Bytic as graphist;
. Voodoo as Amiga Render-Ray Trace supplier
 'Graphist;
. Cooler as hardwarer, mailer, simple very
 cool man;
. Jam as musician;
. Smoke as koder;
. Edison as looker;
. Wizard as graphist;
. Jim as koder, protecter;
. Mr.Di as graphist, koder.




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