IzhNews #0C
31 июля 2001
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Netmail - readers' letters: Glushchenko Cyril (Kristoph), Oleg Nikitin (NIK-O), Garkushin Alex (GAS-13), Yuri Engelhardt (X-MAN), Sergey Kolesnikov (SKL- KEEPER), Chichkanov Constantine (ERASER), Tokarchuk Denis (DWT), Dmitry Klenin (RamTop).

<b>Netmail</b> - readers' letters: Glushchenko Cyril (Kristoph), Oleg Nikitin (NIK-O), Garkushin Alex (GAS-13), Yuri Engelhardt (X-MAN), Sergey Kolesnikov (SKL- KEEPER), Chichkanov Constantine (ERASER), Tokarchuk Denis (DWT), Dmitry Klenin (RamTop).
(C) NoViSeT / BrC Izhevsk
(C) People



    Well then, finally we have re-emerged
section devoted to readers' letters
perhaps to a greater extent by
to them, these are some reviews to the
our editorial board, and left this number. AND
let, perhaps, not all of them are impregnated
praise, but absolutely in each fraction is
support and sympathy. Ironically,
almost all reviews were received just after 11 brutal numbers 
that Yeshe proves indifferent to spektrumistov a harsh word, 
and creates the impression that Russian man is passive as long 
as leave it alone ...


  Despite everything, we were pleased to read absolutely every 
letter, thank you to all those who supported us. All letters 
that came to us, we give in this article with my comments, read 
and rejoice with us ... 


        Glushchenko Cyril (Kristoph)


  This letter I write is literally 30
minutes after reading IZHNEWS # 0B, and
Naturally, my feelings oburevayut
so different ... Here you write - life
shit, you fag. I agree, but not
agree! Of the reasons that no one
writes really can not call the lack of
brutal'ov inetovskogo box. Would he have
you - my letter you would get a 2
months earlier! Just, you know, sometimes
is very broke to pack a parcel, go to
to the post ... It is much easier to throw the soap,
and the works!

  But it's not about that. IZHNEWS - Newspaper
strange, ambiguous and not always
correct and interesting. T.e. you do not
think I'll sing you the ode:) Although
your labor is necessary and helpful - no doubt about it. But I 
have a few critical comments: uninteresting / unknown people in

room of torture, lack of news, under the heading "svezhak" 
written quite zaparnym language for vezzhaniya in which you 
want sit and think that the author wanted to say that a phrase. 
Although, I do not deny - an original and fun, but what was 
originally the first time, the second is not so pret! Another 
confusing moment for me remains 2bitplana use a menu! It is not 
clear why we need it? But it's certainly not the main thing! 
Importantly, that the texts, though not always the global

nature, fun and interesting. The Principal has
and the fact that the authors - literate people, and 
grammatichekie errors - a rarity in our time is also a rarity:)


  In general, the paper is necessary and useful,
but there is much to be done. (For example,
called the 2 newspapers that I think are examples of Esme on 
the Spectrum: born dead and insanity ...


NoViSeT:

  Well, the interesting point of view, and it
like no other, has the right to life,
because most of the above nedochotov had the place to be. But I 
would like to clarify and for all put everything in its place. 
Until now, the day the newspaper, perhaps because of

their inexperience or the desire as much as possible
pay more attention to local spektrumistam, only slightly 
affects more than global, mass issues, questions scenes and 
obetateley. And given up because preference for someone 
unknown, and for someone respected people of our city,

whose names are, in principle, most stayed behind the scenes 
stsenovyh events, but as known, the life of every spektrumista 
- is a kind of cautionary tale, to know

which may not necessarily, but interesting in terms of 
obtaining valuable experience. As is known, it is better to 
learn the mistakes of others than on their own.


  No news ... The reason is the same as before
especially since today's newspaper did not touch the issues of 
the whole scene, making special new in her life she could not 
tell, and those scraps of news that happened on

relatively small Izhevsk ZX scene
setting out in full, but I think it was not particularly 
interesting to most readers. 

  As for "Svezhaka", and then, perhaps, sin otmazyvatsya really 
a couple times the column was written, perhaps, a new and 
incomprehensible to many styles of presentation, it is not 
acceptable for such articles. But what to do, do not you

boring at times lean reviews of new software,
where the whole story boils down to that
as closely as possible to tell the author
HELP. I do not know, but personally, I think, though
RTD and folded, but written in a style only he, but it was the 
strength of the two rooms ... 

   And yet. Now we have our own inet'ovsky box, so everyone 
without special Labour can give their opinion. Look for

address in the introductory article.

   Thanks again for a second opinion, we always
glad to constructive criticism ...


           Oleg Nikitin (NIK-O)


  Intro appeared unexpectedly + I
Knocked Up Turbo and 'zvuchek' does not cast a spell ==>
rebooted, the man was clearly unhappy with something, and 
looked him in profile, I took care of that delicate modulations

Women's voices were heard and their neighbors,
shorter column dusherazdirayusche yelled at
me, and feel about the whole head, I smiled maliciously - the 
clock was a quarter 12, and a cat sleeping next to the columns 
until the morning somewhere lost ... :) The very newspaper I

also pinned, even though I was tired to stupor,
but read it inside and out. General impression
left, I think, for people who have read
its the first time, some of the articles were simply not
needed, but these people are irrelevant to
we do not have! Including I read everything.

  The rest. Graphics cool, can not
so full of color transitions in style
Fil'a and Gas 13, but, in general, I liked it, and the intro - 
there are no words - some emotions. Music: First Mouzon I have 
a lot of often heard in some magazines and the release

Games by EI, X-Man fellow, and the second I heard only once, in 
a sort of magazine, and it seems this Kenotron, because 
execution This composition prodigy, I except him, nor from

Who has not heard, well, except that on my own ...

NoViSeT:

  Very nice tip! Honestly,
After such words, even tears welling
and it seems that our work still anyone needs ... A realistic 
assessment of the real work nothing more I can add can not. 
Great Thank you for saying we should all be

very nice to read them.


        Garkushin Alex (GAS-13)


  From room to room grow. While not entirely consistent with 
HiTech trebovniyam, but already is even nothing. Personally, I 
do not have enough meaningful information. Ie you hang out 
there - this is certainly good, but interested in, usually just 
your friends and acquaintances. I do not want to teach you and 
say: "it's necessary, so do not need - and just trying to show 
the view from the outside does not know you well enough rights. 
If you know the person, even if it just write about the stars 
in the sky, you might be interested. After all, you'll 
understand it feeling, mood, etc. In addition

(Coming down)), because it may very well
be that in these thoughts, he mentions you,
but it is so nice:)


  On the banal level: if the article says
Your Kent, then why should it you it does not
welcome ... :)


  I checked - all first thing in looking at
press mention about yourself:) The potential
is an interesting article, if:

a) was written by your friends;
b) it was written for your case (for you

  certainly be interesting article about

  newspapers);
c) written about the components on which you are participating
  Vova or party where you were ...


  Of course the list is not complete, but it reveals the 
meaning of good article;) 

NoViSeT:

  Interesting opinion! Frankly, we
not against the fact that our readers
We will specify the deficiencies, we will
teach, we are even to some extent for it.
Because, in my opinion, really interesting newsletter can be 
done only if you are interested in its potential and, most 
importantly, real readers, if they in any way express their 
interests, according to an opinion and wishes of the publisher. 
And, of course, neither of some resentment on our part of 
speech does not go Maybe we ourselves are interested in your 
opinion whether it is even not the best. Therefore, we

We are pleased not only laudable speeches, but
and frank, brutal criticism, although criticism glad little 
less:). 


         Yuri Engelhardt (X-MAN)


  Thank you for your ID, really like me 11 number, glitch, 
which I wrote you successfully "Faltered" ;-), now all ok, 
although I usually Claudia - spekovskaya. 

NoViSeT:

   Well, we're glad that you enjoyed it,
hope to continue such a trend
continue, and we will please you do not already widely regarded 
as one interesting number. We hope that you,

turn, will inform us about our
blunders and shortcomings, which nevertheless still
happen, but with your support they will
much less ...


          Danil Davidov (Merlin)


  You have a good newspaper, even though there are, of course, 
its glitches. The first number was impossible to read: errors 
than regular words in the fourth issue of gnarled

font, all the time the letter 't' take over 'm',
moreover, in the menu, where the font 8 * 8, she was
'M', and of many others.

  Technical errors were smaller, but also
were. One of the rooms at the exit from
paper on 'E' is left on the second
screen. Yes, and buttons in the first listalkah were, to put it 
mildly, are located outside the box. 

  But it's all in the past, you are glitches, I think have 
found themselves and zakilili in the past rooms, like, all the 
way through. 

  Not only like Screen Saver. Attribute the fire is not really 
a look. Yes Muzychka be in each article, and then one Mouzon 
bothers to listen, especially if it is still sUX (that was 
present in some editions). 

  And the equalizer in the form of very snumumbrika
even nothing, but even under such a muzak
percussionists, from which the eyes of the orbits climbs this 
geezer. 

  Who are you out there writing about some "lumps"
in "Svezhak? Guys, do not have
"Pornography", you will review the program
writing, not fantasy.

  I'm all perematerilsya when I read this
sHIT, if all that stuff away, then useful information on soft'u 
remain at 3-4 stitch! Do not hammer, please, not their own,

nor, especially, our head and this time
rubbish about some "lumps" and another
trash.

NoViSeT:

   That's good, this is our way! Real, slightly bitter 
criticism, though absolutely true. In general, the second time 
will not be repeated, the error message about "block" we 
realize future try not to "confuse" genres. With regards to the 
same screen saver'a, then we think, but do not be surprised if

it will really saver'om, ie
black screen and no encroachments.
Errors in the text, though there are, but now
Forces of our corrector somnevatsya not necessary, five on the 
grammar of a Certificate of no all worth it. Well, other bugs 
and we really as far as possible once nailed, except that they 
do not immediately appear, but Currently the shell and operable

obezglyuchena almost 100%, but if you
something zameteli, which is not zameteli us,
just tell, this is very important to us!


      Kolesnikov (SKL-KEEPER)


   Intro is excellent, with humor, music, too
very pleased, as bolshinstvo articles. It is right you have 
written in their article "grieved"! And why the majority of

spektrumistov are passive? Well, if
love SPECCY, at least some part
Accept the support of the platform, though the letter
write to the guys who are not sitting idly by, and all his free 
time giving favorite passion! No, they sit like sheep, 
accustomed only to the grub, which is shoved right in mouth! .. 
I do fully support and endorse every word of this article! It's 
a pity only that because of this article, they not catch all 
will remain the same: (. 

   And here include a newspaper such an abundance of
foul language is not worth it! Honest
word, it's a fly in the ointment! After
could well be without them ...
Even when you hear such expressions verbally,
not pay attention, but when written - well, truth hurts your 
eyes! 

NoViSeT:

   Thank you! Of course, the article "grieved" in
segodnyaschnego light of the day - one of the most
timely and relevant, we again
subscribe to her every word and even
would have added more, but, unfortunately, "Brutal" number left 
behind, and now shouting loudly about suxx'ovosti life we ​​have

will not, especially since everything is already know this.
But, of course, we should not dismiss the possibility of ever 
new "brutal" numbers, it is quite possible, if our soul wants 
to brutally vyrugatsya vovseuslyshanie. 

   Abundance netsenzurschiny fully justified,
because where you scroll swearing without it,
even if this abuse of the soul. Especially,
just so you can dostuchatsya to the people,
the only way to get him to understand that
he had his act or omission destroys what was built more than 
one day and not one of dozens of people, and the conclusion let 
everyone makes for himself ... 


       Chichkanov Constantine (ERASER)


  A newspaper, your, as usual, at the proper
level. And last (brutal) the number I strongly pinned.

NoViSeT:

   Thank you very much, although feedback and not big, but very 
enjoyable. We're glad that you happy and more we do not need 
anything! 


          Tokarchuk Dennis (D-W-T)


  On your newspaper. In general, it is framed
she perfectly well, a good viewer interface - for the good of 
the city newspaper. As you can see, she came right up to the 
distant Ukrainians I am confident that reaches or has reached no

only to us but also dispersed throughout the immensity of the 
CIS. Hence, what follows? Materials must be more and more 
interesting, it is necessary expand their horizons to the global

(Vsespektrumovskih) problems. That would be
You only wish, as in
the rest expressed a deep professionalism - it is clear that 
you do not care how looks like your newspaper and what it says.

GOOD FELLOWS!

NoViSeT:

     Very nice to hear that ...
We hope that this number will still be
more interesting for the broad masses of people, as the 
newspaper is gradually coming to level of the stage, though, as 
it is received still unknown, but if we can - surely you, our 
readers, just let us know This let us know and we will try to 
even higher raise the bar set by us ...



         Klenin Dmitry (RamTop)


  Wrote to you, Dmitry aka RamTop. Quite recently learned of 
the existence of your wonderful newspaper! Well done! Thanks 
SKL-KEEPER'u I could read the numbers # 08, # 09, # 0A. Not to 
say that I liked the whole thing, but in any case, you just

Well done, and virtually all the material interesting enough!

   And I have decided to write here on what
subject: recently received a letter from the SKL-KEEPER'a, and 
he told me about the article "grieved" that the passive current 
spektrumisty and that your editing gets little feedback on 
their articles. And it's true, bolshisntvo spektrumistov very 
passive and there is nothing to be done ... : ( 

   But I will try to approach this problem with
On the other hand ...

   I am familiar with Spectrum More from 1993. In the 95th 
bought a 48 with TAPE. And off we go:). How many times I broke 
down This homemade ZX, I do not remember. How many

I had to go through ... When at the beginning
97th went into the army, the complex was again broken. On 
arrival I was with my friend were able to resuscitate him, and 
I continued Spectrum. (My story in more detail

described in DejaVu # 0A in the Mail). K
By the time I was practically the only spektrumistom in the 
city ... : ( 

   But, interestingly enough, I then went on to
to sit at this beautiful car, not knowing
no one just outside the city, but
in the city! And that in 1999-2000,
with only 48k + TAPE + TOSHIBA TV (color)! And you know, I'm 
quite happy with it all! I continued to play their favorite 
toys and all sorts of slander bend, knowing that they are not 
wanted ... And you would be so could? His friends jokingly call 
me Spektrumnym maniac:) But I'm not offended because it is! :) 

  And only a year ago, my old
school friend, a student in Krasnodar, brought me a 128 with a 
floppy drive and a pack of CDs! So, I got the ZX-FORMAT # 7 and 
DejaVu # 09. 

   And you know, I was very surprised when
learned that Spectrum continues to live on
throughout Russia, and, apparently, live More
very long time! People write game system
program, TRACKMO etc. And you say -
Spectrum dies. Yes nifiga, it's just
another surge pofigizma and nothing more!

  And you know how much More on Russia of the same, what was I? 
That's just it! How many More people in the outback hurts tape 
recorders and not even aware that there is Deja Vu,

IZH-NEWS, Best View, Burial GFX,
ProTracker and finally, the Black Crow!

   And on account of passivity can I say
this:

  Firstly, we are in themselves as a nation
are large nihilists;

  and secondly, everything just got used to that
SPECTRUM is the most khalyavnykh machine
(In software)!

   For example, when I was Yeshe 48, at
I have 25 pieces of tape with the games there, and from
They are only 2! purchased, and everything else
nahalyavu just copied it! And this
The situation was not just me. Same
analogy can also lead to discs, but not
I have ...

   Well, I went to indulge in demagoguery, and I just wanted to 
support you and Spectrum ... 

NoViSeT:

  Quite interesting point of view, and I would
even say, the most faithful. Add
something to the above, I just do not
I can, because I think to myself that way and
totally agree with RamTop'om though, I
it seems that it should not be and must be
to change something before it's too
late ...


   Once again many thanks to all those who
supported us, we can only add
only one dear to the phrase:

          Speccy Rulez Forever!

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Other articles:

Entry - Persistence - the best way to respect tradition.

Scene news - the completion of a Power of Sound Web Team. Unbeliever not leave the Spectrum. News from Optical Brothers and Delirium Tremens. Nemo wrote a book about the IS-Dos. Results ASCii. Broke up the group "Proxima Centauri". Triumph ROXX!

IzhNews - the history of ASCII 2001. Table of the Izhevsk spektrumistov the summer of 2001.

destroyer - an overview of fresh media: Body, MSF, Inferno, Psychoz, Insanity, Scream.

Report - The first national festival komyuternogo ASCII art in 2001: NoViSeT tells how it was.

Report - a secret report from Hidden part ASCII 2001.

Visitors - the guest list first Izhevsk demopati ASCII 2001.

Revelations - revelations of GAS 13 on konrversiyah on the Spectrum.

Grilling - Himik's ZxZ takes intvervyu by phone at ASC - Andrew Strikes Code.

Elite - Who is Kulnev sceners? Spektrumisty elite, who are they? Unbeliever and Arty?

Copyright - Spectrum is a non profit platform. Is there a copyright on the Spectrum?

Dialogue - Assholes Speak Russian: Raver covered with mud rucsko-speaking stage.

Millenium - the history of the newspaper "IZH NEWS".

Nonsense - the routine pointer with detailed explanations.

Commanders - Reflections of a perfect file Cmdr.

Cheats - some branded CHEAT'ov to play Raven Black.

Pokes - Abu Simbel Profanation, Alien Highway, A-10, Tb, Beach Vollei, Bear George, Chase HQ 2, Continental Circus, Dizzy A, Dragon Ninja, etc.

Results - The results of the survey of users of the Izhevsk BBS.

Netmail - readers' letters: Glushchenko Cyril (Kristoph), Oleg Nikitin (NIK-O), Garkushin Alex (GAS-13), Yuri Engelhardt (X-MAN), Sergey Kolesnikov (SKL- KEEPER), Chichkanov Constantine (ERASER), Tokarchuk Denis (DWT), Dmitry Klenin (RamTop).

Rulezniki - the continuation of the story.

Defikatsii - runs from sinn / dtr / fdm.

ENDets - postscript and reflections on how Pixel'a zarozhdalaks ZX scene.

Advertising - Free offers from Izhevsk.


Темы: Игры, Программное обеспечение, Пресса, Аппаратное обеспечение, Сеть, Демосцена, Люди, Программирование

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