IzhNews #0C
31 июля 2001

Dialogue - Assholes Speak Russian: Raver covered with mud rucsko-speaking stage.

<b>Dialogue</b> - Assholes Speak Russian: Raver covered with mud rucsko-speaking stage.
                        Dialogue is possible?

(C) RTD / BrC Izhevsk



    edavno wide range of Russian spektrumistov became available 
to the third issue of British electronic "stsenovogo" magazine 
"Subliminal Extacy", parted slightly curtain on a little-known 
Spectrum West, more precisely, the western zx-"Backstage" 
(including thematic focus of the magazine). That

there write? Well, firstly, the catches
in the eyes of the abundance of phrases "stupid Russians", 
"fucking russian" and the like. As an example, an article (with 
the reductions, there may be problems of translation) where the 
author argues quite vociferous on the topic of language 
"scene." At date of writing Article featured in 1999, but, once 
it published recently by the same author it appears in many 
articles of the third issue, therefore, its relevance is not 
lost. Translation data for those who difficult to read English 
texts as well as for those who do not read them out of 
principle. Curses (the worst), I did not translate from respect 
to the Russian language, in addition to the author the 
following article to swear more Like in English.


Assholes Speak Russian (c) Raver / Phantacy


                             <...>

  In short, today I help the head of the Russian bear for its
fascism. Assholes sreak Russian!

                             <...>

  Fascism - is when thousands of the creatures they write, 
speak and think only in their national language. What patriots! 
By doing this you can not show less concern for the stage, 
because you have a majority, and it makes you Lamer. I know 
that among these fascists, or as we call them, lamer, well 
known only to the word "amiga rulez "and" pc sux ". And then 
they cry out with foam on his lips:" Down Nazis! "which 
translates as" fuck nazis! ". So let me say that they - the 
biggest Nazi, which I have ever seen! Let me also clarify that 
the word "nazis" in Latvian means "knife", and together with my 
longtime friend, Hazard / Phantasy often laugh at the Nazis and 
all the shitheads, in the words that they should include in 
your email address. 

  I'm not saying that the Russian is bad compared with English. 
Just he is in any case can not be the language of the stage, 
because (thank you, Satan!) Spectrum scene is still 
international, because that the computer terms in English, 
because the scene associated with the matter, originated on the 
Commodore 64 and advanced to Amiga, still English, why fuck'tye 
group names and nicknames in English on this "communist" stage, 
if they do not know English, and fucking, because the English

the word "fuck", which is so fucking-sounds good. Indeed, for 
me it sounds like music, maybe because at Latvian has its own 
word for the same. This word "Pist", and it sounds different, 
does not it? Therefore, the "fuck" I do not I call rude. Hmmm, 
and the word "pist" - not too rough, because it merely 
describes the process. SO FUCKING PIST! 

  What can Russian offer instead "fuck"? "Jobanij v rot"?
"Bljad"? "Poshol nahuj", "zajebal", "ohujel"? Hey, it all sounds
so childish, and not that powerful Fuck, that the world is 
familiar to every Lameroo. 

  People with limited thinking, thinking that there is no need 
to Western scene, enough for them to have a lousy local scene.

A pity. Languages ​​are so easy to learn if your head is not 
mutilated. Geniuses such as I know, even three of them - native 
latvian, english, and yes, that fucking russian, so I always 
know what is happening here and there. Language should not be 
an obstacle the world stage, to combine the Crank-spektrumistov 
throughout this tiny territory.


  Almost nothing more to say ... Except for one very important 
thing that I almost forgot: the expression "jobanij v rot" 
refers to the March Cat / Condorsoft! This article is dedicated 
to you and your language! One last thing: you can not say I'm a 
fascist or a Nazi, because I'm a racist, Harlem - my Mecca, 
and, of course, all the white - the dregs. Yo brothaz!

 04.05.99


  Leaving aside all the nasty
swearing to the Russian language, if you do not pay attention 
to the insults the Russian-speaking "communist" Spectrum in the 
face of Western zx-public (in the term!), They say, we're lamer 
and fools (inglisha not know), it remains interesting idea: a 
universal "stsenovym" declare English language.


  This idea can be considered one of the options for addressing 
the critical issue for the western Spectrum: to establish a 
more active software and information exchange with "stupid

russians ". In fact, much of
under review, the magazine is devoted to the
this issue.

  And how could it be otherwise? East (let's
will call both the former Soviet Union,
namely, with regard to our beloved platform, respectively, in 
Europe this case the West) - it is indeed

tidbit for European spektrumistov. As they acknowledge, the 
number of active spektrumistov, and groups, among 
Russian-speaking order of magnitude higher. They complain that 
the vast number of "software" is not available to them: the 
press in Russian, "unreadable", many programs, demos, games are 
protected, which greatly complicates the conversion of the add 
on their disk systems (it turns out, TR-DOS in the West is held 
in high esteem, but there are a number of other operatsionok)

Again, the Russian language, there and everywhere ...

  What's left to do but to cry
struggling? Imperative that these "stupid russians", finally, 
noticed to the West. Shouting something, of course, to scream, 
but one must not forget the national

pride (national identity that
Do). Aggression breeds aggression (or
At least, a defensive response). True,
Many examples show that "the people"
(Spektrumisty) more likely to respond to chtolibo loud, sharp 
little ", or - solid pofigizm. Nevertheless, aggressive minded 
European articles provide a primarily a negative image of 
themselves Europeans discourage any desire to co-operation (my 
personal emotions in reading were often not pleasant). 
Expansion is not possible! At least for the reason that not 
everyone owns spektrumist good enough English (and I

including mean, I understand, but napryazhno read, maybe not 
used?) and, furthermore, not everyone can or wants to learn 
him. And no Nazis in it. Rather, the Nazis (and even 
discrimination?) Would attempt to force East use English as the 
main "computer", as well as an attempt to eradicate TR-DOS, 
which we have, in fact, is the standard (plus human

factor "- the habit, nostalgia).

  Speaking of aggression and nationalism. Not a bad article, 
which should be slightly lower published in all the same 
journal. Read, as usual, leaving the "aggression" of the author 
outside the brackets, or in addressing the relationship of East 
and West, we are not leave.



One more boring text from Yerzmyey (c) Yerzmyey / H-PRG ^ RA


  Yes, today I was again serious. I think that I must protest 
against nationalist texts on channel # z80 gdelibo or more, if 
it hurts me. I do not tolerate such stupid thinking and I hate 
these primitive, stupid bastards, as nationalists. This is an 
unacceptable situation in Speccy-stage or in any elsewhere (the 
group of people). 

  Not an excuse that these people are young and stupid. Their 
parents must kill them, so there was no more new generations 
hating bastards. 

  I love every nation, because each of them very interesting. 
In each country. And maniacs Spectrum - the last bunch people 
who can bite each other like animals. I write about this, 
because I see so much aggression, so bloodthirsty, mindless 
individuals at # z80, I do not believe my eyes. In them, more 
beast than man. Realizing that this is possible, I was 
completely shocked (especially on my favorite channel!). 

  I really despise these people. They are small, noisy,
a smelly, full of hatred and stupidity. Nationalists -
worst buttheads on our poor earth. I never thought that
among fans of the Spectrum is possible. It's unbelievable to me.
It does not fit in the head.

  So now I say: FUCK YOU, ALL NATIONALISTIC BASTARDS,
STUPID, SMALL, CREATURES, FUCK YOU AND YOUR
EMPTYBRAINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God bless you!

                       Yerzmyey / H-PRG ^ RA



  Is all lost, and valuable contacts impossible? It may well 
be. Dialogue between cultures (subcultures, if you will) of 
East and West is possible (I think) Only if they are equal 
rights. Mutual cooperation, mutual respect and NO AGGRESSION. 
And the first step to expand exchange and will certainly have to

be exactly Reconciliation, without which
impossible to build a full-fledged dialogue. Just a lack of 
proper relationship to other nations (and to some people, too) 
and, therefore, the manifestations aggression are today

Education is really the main obstacle to international 
Spectrum. This condition applies equally to both

West and the East. We must stop to see them as "bourgeois," it 
is necessary just stop thinking that the "russians" -

"Stupid", you must change ochchchen
much within himself and his views on
"Them" and "us." Almost impossible ... Almost.

  In the end, I somehow missed this
moment, we are in fact similar informatsionnokulturny exchange 
under the Spectrum too more than not. Moreover, except for 
personal (And the East as a whole) enrichment for us

there is another incentive - the unity of the Spectrum
(Look, live longer).

  What's next? And then our complex issue
complicated by several times, and, perhaps,
time will tell as we are [not] solve. A
really like?

  Assume the first phase is passed, we are trying to create the 
mutual disposition and thus produce a favorable environment for 
contacts to expand communication channel and the subsequent 
integration (This is an ideal - a truly common Spectrum without 
any barriers, including language). How is that? 

  I do not know.

  Let me explain just what am "integration of parts
Spectrum at each other. "In this state,
firstly established (whether chaotic
or not, if only to steadily working) path
Traffic "software" between East and West.
This also should include a problem-free
(Ie, feasible) conversion
programs from one disk system to another, ie lack of 
protection, basic-feeders (only for export versions). Further, 
spektrumisty at least understand one language of the 
neighboring camps. In addition, obviously requires the 
existence of groups or people and interpreters both on-site 
"Arrival" "Soft" and in the sending country (suddenly

who without translation send?) may themselves
creators of, say, create a foreign-language newspaper version 
of the product. Can not exclude cross-checked with the help of, 
for whom the language native, national. With such

scheme within the western or eastern camps will be able to 
exist and who owns ONLY their language, without feeling

much discomfort. All communism!

  But communism is still no built (ants, bees yes, do that) ... 
A hence, we are only "fly in

clouds "... Although, who knows? Maybe everything
formed over time?

  Finally after all I will say this. Let
"Sceners, if they want to communicate with Intermedia is on 
some universal" language scene, whether it be English, French,

Arabic (Come on, who is so cool?), I
this did not interfere. Only, please
for Russia - in Russian.

  Is English curses sound
more relish than ours? As anyone, of course,
but better to be absolutely nothing.

  Postscript: dreaming is not harmful, injurious
not to dream ...






Other articles:

Entry - Persistence - the best way to respect tradition.

Scene news - the completion of a Power of Sound Web Team. Unbeliever not leave the Spectrum. News from Optical Brothers and Delirium Tremens. Nemo wrote a book about the IS-Dos. Results ASCii. Broke up the group "Proxima Centauri". Triumph ROXX!

IzhNews - the history of ASCII 2001. Table of the Izhevsk spektrumistov the summer of 2001.

destroyer - an overview of fresh media: Body, MSF, Inferno, Psychoz, Insanity, Scream.

Report - The first national festival komyuternogo ASCII art in 2001: NoViSeT tells how it was.

Report - a secret report from Hidden part ASCII 2001.

Visitors - the guest list first Izhevsk demopati ASCII 2001.

Revelations - revelations of GAS 13 on konrversiyah on the Spectrum.

Grilling - Himik's ZxZ takes intvervyu by phone at ASC - Andrew Strikes Code.

Elite - Who is Kulnev sceners? Spektrumisty elite, who are they? Unbeliever and Arty?

Copyright - Spectrum is a non profit platform. Is there a copyright on the Spectrum?

Dialogue - Assholes Speak Russian: Raver covered with mud rucsko-speaking stage.

Millenium - the history of the newspaper "IZH NEWS".

Nonsense - the routine pointer with detailed explanations.

Commanders - Reflections of a perfect file Cmdr.

Cheats - some branded CHEAT'ov to play Raven Black.

Pokes - Abu Simbel Profanation, Alien Highway, A-10, Tb, Beach Vollei, Bear George, Chase HQ 2, Continental Circus, Dizzy A, Dragon Ninja, etc.

Results - The results of the survey of users of the Izhevsk BBS.

Netmail - readers' letters: Glushchenko Cyril (Kristoph), Oleg Nikitin (NIK-O), Garkushin Alex (GAS-13), Yuri Engelhardt (X-MAN), Sergey Kolesnikov (SKL- KEEPER), Chichkanov Constantine (ERASER), Tokarchuk Denis (DWT), Dmitry Klenin (RamTop).

Rulezniki - the continuation of the story.

Defikatsii - runs from sinn / dtr / fdm.

ENDets - postscript and reflections on how Pixel'a zarozhdalaks ZX scene.

Advertising - Free offers from Izhevsk.


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