Open Letters #04
21 октября 2000 |
|
Nemo open letters № 4.2
630107 11.05.2000 Nemo, Hello! It should be probably introduce: BURST IFLASH. I will try to briefly and clearly state the most important thing. The purpose of this writings: I suggest you do together card for SPECCY. The reasons that I call it to you: 1. I love SPECCY and hope that you also not indifferent to SPECCY. 2. You are a professional versed in electronics. 3. This is too serious a job for one person, but among my friends Nobody dared. 4. I do not agree with the fact that iron SPECCY not supported by the software. a) Basis of determining SPECCY, (with your words) - it's personnel or scan resolution of 256 * 192, 16 colors, ie, it's TV. But squeezed out of the TV away not all. b) The people need bread and circuses. Ability to comfortably work on SPECCY. A You do not have enough speed or CPU, or memory (128 Kb) depending on the tasks. Ask Mednonogova how difficult it squeezes out the last of the old SPECCY. And this extra useless waste of time and effort (iron poshustree and work easier). c) operating system - it is certainly good, but any OS slows Applied softiny => see item b). ... 5. Why not listen to the MDE SPECCY?! Yes easily - stuck a chip and listen you like. 6. These reasons, the weight, but most importantly, if the issue SPECCY directly with twists and reserve for the future freaks, then as you wrote, you get a MONSTER. But there is another option: why not make other CPU work in parallel Z80 and do all the grunt work. Establish the ability to upgrade cards, the people at SPECCY not rich. And while much can and move the OS to SPECCY. Why do the dirty work when the OS is working in card. Software for OS easier to write clearly. Now the main thing. Possible structure of the card. [Here is given by the scheme] SPECCY - SPECTRUM with any bus KAY, DMA - channel DMA, The microprocessor will provide decryption SPECCY, and there is flexibility adjust the reaction to the ports and states. (For example, PIC). Shadow RAM - any SRAM ROM replaces SPECCY (PY10). ADC - analog-digital converter desirable stereo 16 bit, frequency 47 kHz. ROM - works off the BIOS reset, then do not need (p ^ 2). IDE - any hard drive. DAC - how can a GS, but the best 2 channel to 16 bit. SIMM - either up to 16 Mb. VIDEO-card - full support TV-image, better than SECAM. CD-ROM - whatever. CMOS - ordinary watch. MDE - chip to play SSE (now I do not remember). CPU - preferably a fast and compatible with Z80 to facilitate writing software (Z380). The microprocessor will emulate the majority of the stock to SPECCY and program their ports. The card will replace the GS, rock VIDEO in SPECCY, emulate mat. coprocessor, emulate TR-DOS on the screw, digitize, and much emulated SOUNDRIVE another, as the software it is pumped. Well, here's a brief all. I, in turn, I'll write Download universal decoder and Software emulation of GS. You - to realize the iron cards. To demonstrate the seriousness of the intentions undertake to carry out small TK. On the conditions of performance - on a voluntary basis. The minimum configuration of cards: CPU, universal decoder, DMA, and logic. The rest should be no problem (PLUG AND PLAY) or stick to the panels, or slots, after work. Gladly listen to your options on the card, so choose the best option (best is the enemy of the good). P.S. I look forward to productive cooperation. P.S.S. Such a card would have to be done much earlier. P.S.S.S. Sorry for the ugly Russian. I await your reply. N. I have found something important to say. In addition to open architecture card must take the opportunity to program in it, ie, one program will work on SPECCY, and another to load and will work in the card. Since the card is designed from scratch (No standards), the iron will be quite compact and optimal. All in card quite easily implemented for Except VIDEO-card), I do not know how it is optimal to implement, and it is not optimal, too, may be worthwhile to do VIDEO-memory). MA, in principle, is also not as too difficult to implement. In my opinion, this is a real prospect Development SPECCY, not limited to a compatibility problem with SPECTRUM'om. Moreover, If well thought out internal standards, we can over time produce a different motherboard and cards, or ... Open architecture will allow hassle-free to make iron and all other under the card. Although priority will be for You (the developers), the microcontroller does not is copied. N. 19.05.2000 Dear N! 1.Veroyatno, I am a person interested in the development of Spectrum'a, - but This is why it sickens me masochism Type what you set out for more. 2. I am professionally engaged in (to work) in Spectrum'e qualified and versed in electronics. The notion of professionalism means (including as a necessary condition but not sufficient!) qualification. Ie REAL qualified person is a professional. Professionalism implies a broader view of things, rather than qualification. Professional EARNS MONEY in their professional interests. This implies that it does something useful for others, for that may be paid the money - that is, is someone has to, and therefore, it is worth money. A curious exception is the a professional crook who is also a qualified engineer. In this case, the benefits do not need the result is a crowd (skotobaza), requiring bread and circuses. The only trouble is that This process quickly leads to a dead end, and a regular, serious production impossible - that is, it is a single METHOD grab the money, rather than production. Production involves investments in the years forward, the regularity and continuity - otherwise it is impossible. 3. This is not a serious work, regardless the number of people. 4. I do not agree with what you are "... not agree that iron Speccy not supported by the software. "Let us all expand on the shelves. Software - a product not code and not the program. Indeed, CLASSIC SPECTRUM (Spectrum-48 and features of Spectrum-128 (Amstrad 3 +)) is well supported by software. Ie created mass programs that are useful to someone, let They even play (including). Created As the product they are in the West (including Poland and Hungary - although there has already begun Durkee associated with Coding, and not with the creation of software products - these are different things - pay attention!) - and only partially, with substantial reservations, in Russia. How many were created PRODUCTS under expansion (compared with Spectrum-128) architecture? They can be counted on his fingers (one of these programs - ISDOS). At the same time to create a whole trends Coding, not related to SOFTWARE! Example - demomeyking. Kindly tell me, well, who needs These demos except the demomeykerov? Does anyone even pay a penny for these COOL creation? No - because as a good Zero. Therefore, the demo is not commercial software, not a product - it is no more sophisticated than the RCD. Now system software - seems to be there progress. Indeed, "progress" more than enough - but why do we need systemic program if, ultimately, they do not create software? Ie Commercial software? Ie software to TRUE Make sense? Is it reasonable to produce steel just to produce steel? Does it make sense to make machines that will do just machines? This is absurd. Moreover, there are no adequate criteria for assessing the quality of system software, if it does not lead to create the ultimate, commercial, consumer SOFTWARE PRODUCTS. Ie This is again a code, not software. We can assume that Coding, ie code generation for code (himself), and CONSUMER companies are filling. But a progressive idiocy that leads to countless chimeras which has no relation to reality. Oriented production under such a consumer it is impossible - it is inadequate. His behavior unpredictable, random preferences and chaotic - the situation is not computed, ie production is impossible. Even assuming For technical reasons - not to mention already on the moral. What do trainers for idiot, it's better to go to wipers. Ie to drain the excess water and extinguish lights. Then right Zonov, - Spectrum must be destroyed so as not to multiply the number of mentally defective people, and not Durkee produce - and the most hard-nosed transplant on a PC (good for the consequences of responsible Americans - Zonov only performer their will). By the way, actual development of hardware / Architecture Spectrum'a confirms the above said. Settled down and were in demand, only those innovations in architecture, that improve consumer content companies through more efficient use of already created under the Spectrum-128 SOFT (ie, soft in the right sense - namely, the product, not code). Do you think 256 Kb in Scorpion'e was done in order to CODER nalepili there CODE? 128 Kb additional memory - a springboard for attacks on the SOFTWARE AVAILABLE - by Shadow monitor. Ie fitting for "harrowing" (adaptation) AVAILABLE IN WEST Soft. Only then, when the flow of program from the West dried up, the shadow monitor was used (along with 128 Kb of RAM) for Coding - ie, for an idle pastime. The same applies to the turbo mode - it increases consumer content companies by increasing Quality of functioning of an existing software. This was not done in order to Encoders sculptured komandochki 2 times faster. The same applies to 1024 Kb of RAM - it KVAZIDISKOVOD, not a space for idly by encoding the public - that is, architectural innovation for more convenient yuzaniya ALREADY AVAILABLE SOFTWARE. The tire is no exception. Thus, under AVAILABLE SOFT managed to extend essentially architecture - well, where the support? Machine BEFORE YET ERP work on the old software and sell they can only reason that managed to improve the functioning of already AVAILABLE SOFTWARE, as well as reduce operating costs. Recently released new program under 256 Kb Megatetris created BRIGADE programmers FOUR YEAR. This monstrous, titanic work, - Where you still find these zealots? I personally think that if they knew that they will, then do not come from behind to work. And now think how many man-years required to create the SOFTWARE PRODUCT volume 1024 Kb? I am particularly stress: not NAKODIT, and create a product. Imagine what would have rabies coders when they read it - but nothing good pat on the square the head and say here that it still square, not round. They have a believe that they pupy land - but the apparatchiks inhibits the development of Spectrum'a, - in your letter is not stated, but implied. Therefore, based on the foregoing, let me stay at former stance - iron Spectrum'a not supported by software in the part that has evolved. It makes no sense further fuss - not to rely on - no software. Finally make a curtsy in the direction of coders - that really was not brutalized. Shocking in the coding can only be meaningfully in that case, if someone PROFESSIONAL USING THE HOURS coders in the Software Products. If not, then the occupation loses its meaning. Similarly, with demomeykingom, but about it below. Here is an example. In Moscow is one Jason, that will accelerate OS'i work several times. (This is to ensure that "... every OS slows Applied softiny.") I do not think that it somehow especially peretrudilis, and even more spent on it for 4 years - this is not important. In this case the result is important - it really increase the effectiveness of OS'i in hundreds (maybe over time, and thousands) users. Ie people knew that he was doing, and most importantly - why. He found the weak point of the system - namely, the hard disk driver, and rewrote them. The effect of classroom coding multiplied by consumer benefits REAL SOFTWARE. Demomeyking can also be viewed as a resource / test site for producing efficient code snippets. But even an indirect effect through the use of SOFTWARE PRODUCT is problematic. Demo entirely rely the specificity of the specific video processors clones. But the specifics of video processors generally speaking - is degree of deviation FROM STANDARD TV. Ie the public relies on the curvature of their machines. It is clear that Each praises his bog, hill my flower bed and pulls the blanket over himself. Ie this is a very good support for clones (and rather, their curvature) Spectrum'a and very poor support Spectrum'a as a kind of whole, ie platform. So in conclusion try schematically recursively by inclusion of sets (no more than speculation, does not claim to some sort of final and absolute truth - that is, should seen as something that claims, primarily on the clarity) show how to understand the relations between the concepts CODE / PROGRAM / PRODUCT. Something like dolls. CODE is included in the program and the program, in turn, the SOFTWARE PRODUCT. If you analyze the activities of any Spectrum-firms (not just software, and hardware - you'll find all of the above components. (Table 1). CRITERIA-LEVEL WEIGHT requirements EVALUATION of qualitative (% Ba SOS TA BE PRO AQL TA) - Return level of the program - handling Nogo PRODUCT - Sustainability - Availability of promising structures - Utility / on: demand - the spread of Product - Supply - Advertising-in forms. Support - The creation of prop idents software - Maintenance The presence of a person firms we have: 85 - Concepts - Ideology - Strategy Availability of business reputation and ade vatnosti - Experience (Background) on market - Predictability and stability - Mandatory - Continuity The presence of intrinsic but programs - The adequacy of the level of the program Problem - Conceptual - presales but-ideological test Consistency - the presence of well - the software of the interface with compatibility (such as user about the equipment, so (data and non-executable software medium) FILES: help'y with - easy inter-putstvuyuschie Base 12 Faith of data, examples - The number of non-work Diagnostic errors caught in commercial communications) version - adapted tools adaptation to specific software and apparatus inverse medium - Dokumentirova of (hard to Pia) - Your own code - Code density, the level of code Expandability (Quality of coded - actually holds isvaniya code - Neat package (com - files) 3 (Nedok. team work with the ports) - Structuring, reliability, transferability 5. "Ask Mednonogova, how difficult it squeezes out the last of the old SPECCY ". And do not ask, I know. Issue a not the case. The question is whether "... It does not have enough speed or CPU, or memory (128 Kb )..." To to judge things like "what missing / what is lacking, one should at least To do something yourself, fuck the REAL SUBMISSION about it. Ie UNDERSTAND / KNOW what the real limitations - until You also "know" their own chimeras - on the principle - well there, where we have not. Memory - now a Mb, a CPU works almost 2 times faster. But where The result? Where soft, I wonder? His no. How to write a thank Spectrum 128, and writes. You think less labor require traditional way to write software? Under SP-48 on the west software created about a year. Under 256 Kb program has already created MT2000 FOUR YEARS! Asked how much need time to create a product under 1 Mb? Answer: 16 years. But this is absurd. As they say - the road spoon for dinner - and dad Mom probably will not feed you Sixteen years - that is, A professional approach is needed. And it's the impossible WITHOUT OS'i. How much will it cost softina, which requires for its creation in 1916 years? Program of Fame Mednonogova under 128th Spectrum is created, on average, 2 years and costs approximately (for dealers) 60 rub. Multiply by 8 (1024:128 = 8) and receive about 500 rubles. Well? It is not only a failure to comply with copyright law (although this is important). There and deeper, more general considerations. Spectrum is ideally suited to classes of problems that it solved. And for their solutions SPECIFICATIONS SUFFICIENT. By the way, something no one could hear Mednonogova of Fame, that he lacks hardware capacity - is not the case. Therefore, the question right the engagement of additional hardware resources (in excess of architecture of SP-128) - is the question NEW Statements of problems. Do they exist, and if so, what is the problem? Presumably this is primarily OS'evye PURPOSE. Under OS'evymi problem is understood the problem, can not be resolved on the architecture of SP-128. Cursory list: - The OS itself (without the screw, 128 Kb to OS'i too little. Attempts to use OS'i lead to statements like: "... every OS slows down the application softiny "- correctly, they do not have enough space ...) - BBS. (Requires File operations, availability BASE files, etc. etc.) - Tekstonositeli (shell) (require low complexity (technological) a) desired hypertext, mobile files, interoperability of files - ie again file operation. - Programmer 27HHH (where XXX> 512) (Similar operations are required on the file - one BASE firmware tentatively can reach several megabytes - ie necessary and Winchester, and (preferably but not necessarily) 1Mb RAM). Imagine this idiocy on diskettes, medium TRDOS'a. Well, for example, a comparison two firmware (verification ROM) type 27080 - this is the file operation. Ie ONLY OS'. I'll note that if the screw RAM loses its meaning. In KAY'e it involved under KVAZIDISKOVOD, ie Docking OS'i with TRDOS'ovskim SOFTWARE. 6. Let us return to the statement "... every OS slows down the application softiny. "What true is true. But what this conclusion? Do you think 1024 Kb of code you can created without control program that, in fact, will serve as the OS'i? If you think this is so, then it impassable stupidity, bordering on madness. Stupidity punishable, - 16 years of start to finish. Can proceed directly Now to the walls of their own proshibaniyu forehead. Parallel work - ie, organize a parallel work of several programmers - will not work because traditional software system, designed under TRDOS'om, it does not fit. Ie You can, of course, to cure tonsils through the ass, but whether or not bother? Those same 16 years from start to finish. Now, suppose that you realize that required osepodobnaya control program. But the very creation of such a program ... again the same 16 years. And then, from the confidence that the established osepodobnaya program will be effective (productive) OS'i? Ie the same brake from which we started ... You can, of course, compared with the full package ISDOS'a trim function - but then the package itself ISDOS'a can cut up to blitz version - strictly by the task, and nothing more. (As This is done in tekstonositele "Op. let. ") Please note that we do not even talking about reliability of your osepodobnoy program - although it is a separate problem - qualifications are not important - important professional approach. And then, finally, what will your VERSATILITY osepodobnoy program? If it is not universal, then inevitably at its creation will have to apply OS'. And since junction with OS'yu is not obvious, ie hidden in the making, then you will be guaranteed a shoal matyugov from users - program-it would be incompatible with anything but itself. Can so much more to say but I think, and this enough. Admit that there is something to think about. 7. "... Squeezed from TV is not everything." Again, true. You can squeeze out yet, but is it necessary? Television, in principle, can give a somewhat higher resolution - not many times, and the interest (~ 20% of the number of pixels - 30% maximum - the curb will not, and part of the image to "eat" or disfigure scan). What do you think, why did 256 pixels per line, and not 257? Or 300? All that over 256 pixels will be used IMPOSSIBLE - plummet processor in image processing, plummet code density. Ie get worse. Architecture lose integrity and harmony. Architecture Spectrum'a Ideal for TV, - ie any change in UHUDSHAET TOTAL / performance company. Therefore, Spectrum and lasts, no matter how playful pen or mutilated architecture. A similar argument can be made for resolution in color. 8. I do not know what MDE - presumably because the subject is not commercial, ie, Unprofessional - at least on Spectrum'e. "... Easily thrust ...", chip - that's Stick, just like that, "... simply stuck" ... and all. 9. The concept of "MONSTER", - as you write, - This is not a technical one, in fact, the concept. This chimera, apparently masked technical terminology. Speaking of technical terms does not eliminate the chimeras, but on the contrary, their fruit. When a person articulates the technical terms without understanding their essence and meaning of life (in scientific language is sounds like the ontological aspect), is a division of sound and meaning - the words is without meaning - it just sounds hot air, generating chimeras, ie, MONSTR'ov. Your project-mongering is not exception. This is also MONSTR. Ontological essence of a monster - it is eaten passionate man BLANK IDEA, which as a result of stupidity and ignorance acquires flesh and technical terminology, ie, words. As the saying goes, The Sleep of Reason produces monsters. Of chimeras exist the only way to get rid - try it in practice to implement them. When They usually burst like soap bubbles with a touch of cotton, leaving a scratch. Itself as speaking - is ritual of the demigod PROGRESS creates a sweet sensation in humans ownership of this very demigod. So say, the sense of a common mass psychosis. Networks are havens of psychosis, as There's no PROFESSIONALS - ie, people who have experience praxis, "know how", - and are able to distinguish the essence of a real object (even having absolutely abstract status - status of Plato - for example, the architecture of Spectrum) of the chimera. So I do not even want to go into details so as not to fuel the chimera. The only thing that I notice that only one DESCRIPTION / USER'S GUIDE TO SUCH unit will weigh more kilogram. Moreover, it is not even on the Price replication / distribution. Where You'll find an idiot, that's read everything? And where you'll find an idiot who write it all? "... You - to realize the hardware card ..." - Ie You want to get rid of Chimera for my own account (or rather, at the expense of my users) - interesting bending thought, agree. "To demonstrate the seriousness of intent ..." - Or rather, the sincerity of confusion, the public is usually wrote: "I have it ready buy. "These words in your letter was found. Coupled with the" bread and circuses "that leads to the sad reflections. If you want to communicate with me (so to speak separately) to negotiate and throw public on a regular shit, this is not to me. There is accordingly proven firm specializing in products made from papier-mache (dummy). You did not even have to write - loud enough to scream about the merits and specifications - for example, in the same network (as Denis Parinov). The firm, which specializes on models (and the actually sells pisyukami) will be strongly support you in your madness - the main thing that you do not forget to mention her logo (advertising, after all). "... Small TK. We return to the table 1. What do you want me to provide? CODE, program or product? Product you will not be able to create, as are not firm. About the program is great doubts: - help'y spelling errors ... Well, the RCD (3% of labor - I and he can write - is simple enough - Shiryaev). But even if you are able to write a simple program (which is by no means obvious, that it must still prove) then on you would need technical Proposal (TP). And as TK wrote the customer. In this case, I will act towards you as an employer (85% of need to learn to me). In addition, probably, I will provide you with supplies, equipment (model) to provide (and pay), communication / coordination. Moreover, I have also teach you to work. Now imagine the situation. I call: "Well, written? "And you reply:" Yes, that's ... Yes here ... Yes I am ... My mother sent Lessons do (in Russian). "Where do we find I invested the money? That's right, there where they have invested - ie, under the cat tail. Or discuss it with parents? We return to the TA. Your letter can be viewed as such - more specifically - the inability / lack of understanding or my interests, nor the feasibility, meaningfulness of any (reasonable). Missing even a sense of measures. Why not drawn square "Cache"? Usually in such chimeras it is always present. All other attributes are chimeras there. "... On a voluntary basis." - Ie I should voluntarily invest you money? Under what safeguards? Under the "voluntary" from your side? Generally speaking, there are ways RANDOM CONTRACT WITH PARTY. The man makes me TA and IF IT suits me, he / she TOR (from my side!). Then he buys iron, and I GIVE PROMISE (liability) pay (reimburse the cost of iron) money on implementation. In this case, I was spared from running for "programmer" Learning from his work, etc. In for a penny, in for a pound. If you undertake to work for, it means that he is able to execute it (in the agreed framework) without outside assistance. Help - it costs money. So, to You are not overly excited, to say that from dozens of people offered their services, could really do the job only two - three (the third case controversial). Others, in fact, just bought iron. "With pleasure is ready to listen ... etc. "On this occasion, to tell the bike. Y I have a distant acquaintance who works for the LGU matmehe. He was on faculty "Youngest" so he held several menial work and patching holes. One of the orders of senior members were replies to letters of workers over the known solutions of Fermat's theorem. Elder friends admonished him as follows: "The main thing is not fixed and not pointed out deficiencies (holes in the proof) - not to get a cart, that month is not rashlebaesh. "Situation something spicy - LSU - a statesman. institution, and it is obliged to respond to letters. It is clear that soap operas are not help in the work ... - and polite government official to be obliged. I have, thank God, the situation is simpler: - I - a merchant, in fact, I write what I think - without rassharkivany on diplomatic parquet. "... A productive collaboration." - This mountain epistolary genre. "... Such a card would have to be done much earlier. "So this is already done - albeit in more modest scale. Is experience GMX and Sprinter'a nobody taught anything? Think if add steepness (specifications / settings / modes / units) would be better? This is the root STUPIDITY - the notion that the development of technical specifications automatically leads to an increase in the consumer properties com. Not so simple. Technically, serviceable and operable things can (and often the case) CLOSED FOR LIFE (Ie, ontologically - by Pelevin "ontological" means "STE - logical." Joke is that the West is ontological and understand). In relation to Spectrum'u as a holistic concept (eidos), we can say that almost all the extensions are destroying that same integrity, the organic, the harmony - that is, REALLY UHUDSHAYUT ARCHITECTURE. Some of the same "extension" type suggested you do not have anything to do with Spectrum'u. It may be that such architectures potentially possible in practice - but they have nothing to do with Spectrum'u. "Best is the enemy of the good"; "... designed from scratch (NO STANDARDS )..." - You, on the indeed, indicate that you offer architecture has no relation to the Spectrum'u. "... A compact and optimal." - Do not all that is compact and optimal technical, functional in real life. You can create a device - but you create a platform not can - regardless of my help. "... In my opinion, this is a real prospect of SPECCY, not limited to a compatibility problem with Spectrum'om. You themselves, you realize that said here? Think at your leisure. Thank you for "priority". Hopefully, it was not very offensive and very helpful. (C) Nemo. P.S. As an application of "Op. Let." fragment of the interview Lozinski. Dmitry Lozinski, perpetual fighter against virus writers, creator of the popular Russian anti-virus programs do not believes hackers people, worthy of discussion. In his view, they are regrettable, but not hot interest. - Soil for hacking, - he said in conversation with a reporter, "CG" - is Teens 12 - 14 years who received its disposal a computer and learned write computer programs that, in Basically, it is very difficult. Some of They enthusiastically engaged in this, 2 then quit, but on some it works like a drug. Here they are self-fulfilling, here met their self-esteem, here in this virtual world, they "Can do everything." In fact, they can not anything - because the ability to write programs similar ability to translate from one language to another. Fully immersed in your computer world, they are deprived of the opportunity to learn a lot of "unnecessary" things they deprive themselves of knowledge that could really make them highly skilled. Deprived of these outsiders, "Useless" knowledge, they can just translate, they can not create a new idea or come up with an algorithm for its implementation - and is 99% of cases. Such specialists are very few people need them a dime a dozen. And then, unrecognized, useless, they are hackers. After that, nobody would ever in any computer firm will not accept - is that by mistake. Who needs people with unstable mentality, capable of revenge and enclose in a system of "depth charge" that will work in a year - or two? And get rid of a passion for hacking is hardly lighter than for drug addiction or alcoholism. - But perhaps I am somewhat naive - adds Lozinski. - Initially, the ninetieth I coarsely disgraced. Speaking in one of television programs, I said that hacking in 2 years will come to naught. I do not could imagine that writing the same type "virus" or burglary with the same master key can be practiced longer than 2 years - in the end, it just bored! Hackers, of course, for such attacks respond with rage. However, in their texts no need to look serious arguments. The first - "we are not thieves, we are just people who are interested in computer device, we have the right to the pursuit of knowledge. " (In other words, if someone in my absence, break the door of my apartment, and with interest begins to dig into my closets and desks, then it should not me irritating, even if not stolen anything.) The second type of argument several guards: "You are trying to hang a label on the" hacker "- wrote their supporters one of the internet magazines. - Why not hang a label on the "policeman" or "policy"? I know almost as much cases of police corruption, and how many cases of hacking other people's servers. Why do you do not exclaim that all the police - it is pus, thieves and murderers? " Mikhail Izmailov Vladimir Pokrovsky.
Other articles:
Similar articles:
В этот день... 21 November