Open Letters #04
21 октября 2000 |
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Nemo open letters № 4.9
Hello dear Nemo! It's been a lot of time with my previous letter. (It was written in January.) But not smart enough, that such pause in my correspondence with you / Vyacheslav, due to the fact that I was in despair, scored Spectrum, - not at all. But rather even quite the contrary ... If you remember, then my previous letter I graduated from the wish to revive a joint effort, Spectrum'a this year. Strictly speaking, all the time, anyway, in my local activities, more or less successfully, has been linked to this global task. And looking ahead to say that in I am currently a hundred times more optimistic about the future Spectrum'a, than a year ago. And this in no small degree contributed to your detailed answers my letters. Actually, all these months I You are constantly going to write, but while all sorts of different circumstances (for some issues and problems resolved themselves, but there were new, etc.) set aside the letter on the back burner. During this time, I have accumulated quite a lot like concrete ideas and suggestions, so a more detached, theoretical thinking. However, "everything in order. First, about my-old repeat the year, ordering the game, "FT-2" ... After reading your response (from 01.26.2000) to my previous letter in which you are offered a variety of options to resolve this situation, I decided all the same to leave your order in force, since the trust to B. Mednonogovu then I have not yet been exhausted. But Now, about a month ago, I contacted Medvoyaogovym via email to learn more about how to move this project. And received from him a short answer, that ou busy on their core work, and therefore has little free time. " No "-ob-. #. Answer on the timing yield "CHV2" (and that coming out this game at all) to me by the veto, to achieve and failed. Also, I had little hope of a way out "ZF # 9" (which you have promised as compensation for the delay in the order). But may you have lots of information about the status of "FT-2" and "ZF"? If you find that in the foreseeable future prospects of these projects not then I do still have to re-register your order. For example - on your e-books. But in general, as promoted Project e-books? I would like to know what is already out, so what would they order. Anticipating the next section of my letter, quote paraphrased a fragment of one anecdote: Pessimist: Selling Spectrum impossible - All sitting on the PC ... Optimist: Huge opportunities and a complete absence of competitors! In recent years, according to my personal observations, the people once again there is interest to Spectaim'y (pah-pah-pah so as not to jinx). Moreover, most of these people previously did not have anything to do with computers. And their interest in Basically, not specifically linked with Spectnim'om, and with computers in general. But the important role played by the simplicity and cost Use Spectnmi'om. (Although, I must say that if no effort for further development hard'a, then its present form, Spectrum soon become uncompetitive either on the first or the second indicator. For all other entries (quality and reliability Hardware, software development, technical and information support, etc.) s already long ago gave up not only PC, -. and some game consoles. But this lag not fatal, and some joint efforts the situation can be remedied.) There are truth and those who once prodat its then a 48-second tape machine, then switched to PC, and now sits in nostavgvruya emulator for the old days. And was surprised to learn that for these years, real-Speccy n 'only not disappeared, but even slowly, but growing, show for a desire to purchase Modern Spectrum. But people in this category, of course, very much. Naturally, the bulk of potential buyers Spectrum'ov, would have to be those who are currently spektrumistami, and sales of peripherals I programming that is so, but for various well-known reasons "as soon as they are unlikely will buy new computers in the collection, most still do not see any real sense the replacement of the computer. In general, from my communication and my observations I have made one important conclusion - those who still have not wanted to or not able to get away from the platform Spectrum, since it does not go away (!) all who wanted and could not leave - had already left, and Currently, the outflow of users virtually stopped. (This statement is less primennteyayao to those who are engaged in software development - they tend to sit on two platforms: PC and Spectrum, or Amiga and Spectrum.) So, if before So far the main campaign in Spectrum media (and "Open Letters" in particular) was conducted in order to keep users on platform, there are currently more we should start an advertising campaign to attract new users to the platform. And the focus should be on people who have never had a computer at home. Since then, on the basis of all written above, I have decided that *.,,%` f (%) at Spectrom'e, a reasonable approach, it is possible try to do. Besides, now we have in Glazov, except me No one is eager to promote the Speccy, but I do not let a large, unmet need in there. That is why I to know under what conditions you are working with dealers: the volume and regularity of procurement, size, discounts, information provision, issues of maintenance and etc. Will promote the Spectrum together! But move on to things more optimistic, and precisely to all the expected (hopefully) Festival Chaos Constructions - 2000 (CC'OOO)! Unless there is any force majeure, that is strong likelihood that this time it will be attended by representatives of Glazov in the face of our "Galaxy Plus, and perhaps in Izhevsk in the face the famous "Power of Sound" (at the moment this writing izhevchane not yet made a final decision about the trip). So to speak - National Team spektrumistov Udmurtia! True none of we had in St. Petersburg was not, but I think that not get lost - the main thing to get! And then now in the country, in connection with a period of general holidays / vacations, some strange crisis, with train tickets, and flights, alas, but we still can not afford. And since we are talking about CC'OOO, we would like to make this event useful not only for those who will be on it be present, but for the whole community spektrumistov as a whole. Why in the CC does not hold the conference (or any whether it is in this spirit) with the participation of developers and producers of software and hardware, distributors and other interested persons. And at these conferences to take a. # + a. "- k% solutions of common konnepshi standards, and develop strategy for the development platform for the future and deal with other pressing issues. Such conferences have been would be more constructive and would provide a greater positive effect for the platform, than any individual performances and statements in various newspapers, magazines and networks. (Besides, at present, every single Spectrum Media has a very limited audience.) After all, as is done throughout the civilized world! More or less unified position contributes to the successful development of any cases take at least the same platform PC, because there are regularly held conference to develop some standards. That is why the PC and thriving, and we, at Spectrum'e, all in one well-known Krylov's fables ... I certainly understand that, This initiative logical to turn to organizataram Chaos Constructions, that actually I've done before, to address these proposals by e-mail the chief organizer of the SS - Vsevolod Potapov (Random), but he has not made any comments about it. And far from it -Australia, and you're all the same directly in St. Petersburg, besides using a certain prestige in the environment spektrumistov and can support the conduct of such conferences. In the extreme If fail to agree with organizers, they can be held and outside the framework of the Festival - the main thing that people somehow have still to be assembled in St. Petersburg. Now, more concrete proposals. Currently, the Spectrom'e There are two main interconnected global challenges, it is - the collapse of the market software and the lack of Single, covering the maximum number of users of information publication. Of solutions to these problems' "(a (b further development of the platform, and even more so - is there at all, some or the future of Spectrum'a. And I think that alone, alone, no "h nyue existing structures Speetnim'e address these issues are not able to. (Unfortunately, "Inforkoma" and "FormaK" but no longer.) Therefore, I propose to discuss, at least two main topics: market recovery software by creating a central dystribyotorskogo center (like the aforementioned "Inforkoma"), and publication of Spectrum periodicals zhuraala. Maybe u was never any doubt relevance of these topics. On this for now. Although I initially intended, in this letter, yet podiskutirovat with you about some technical aspects of the development platform. (More or less detail, I read all the materials placed in the "Open Letters", as well as Other Your articles. What I poliostyu agree with you, what is it - in part, but some of your statements I have opinions lead me in utter bewilderment (although I and guess from what considerations you comes, is convinced he is right broad public). Yet I, too, is not the first year of doing Spectnim'om, and for these years I have formed a certain perception of the platform ...) But since inexorably approaching SS'000 time, and I I hope all still going to this event in particular (and in St. Petersburg at all), I think that we can communicate and personally. So, see you soon! Yours - N. (Spring - Summer, 2000) PS: If any circumstances allow me to come to Peter, then write letter. (Grades will find in the envelope:). 427629 09.08.2000 Dear N! Commenting on the text: 1. <: The wish to revive a joint effort, Spectrum'a this year>. I do not think that this kind of problem can be solved in a year. The fact that slow and long decay locally - is quickly rising. AND there and there is one and the same time constant. I do not think that this should be seen as sprint. 2. No ZX-F № 9, no FT-2 has not yet emerged. I do not have any more specific information about the timing of release, rather than you. 3. According to the project of electronic books so far nothing. I'll try to describe the situation. Well then, that money is tight - I think not explain necessary, and this is directly related to the implementation of any projects. The project is the electronic book does not promise quick results. In addition, is non-core activities. Therefore, he may be paid only to the unplanned moves - that is, snatches. Except Then there are the more specific obligations - For example, a programmer. Just means diverted to other areas that still have not themselves pay off. Ie I consider this project as a background, long-term task, which can not hurry - because will, in the first pores, flushing out. Do not look and on some super steep at first - that is, have to go through texts, rather than technical bells and whistles that obviously very upset lamer. Probably tekstonositel be the same as that and <Op.Let.>. There is also a problem as copyright. Of course, for Book Market Spectrum'ovskie shell that the elephant's grain, but it would have clean hands in this regard. So I do not I can name timeframes. If you decide to revoke the order, not in any way I was not encumbered, - I have enough funds to repay its obligations. Although I think we can and vysat: There Suvorov. There Pelevin . <Generation II>. + Criticism, General Discussion on networks over Pelevin. 4. <: If you do not make efforts to further development hard'a:> Understand development hard'a now Spectrum'e will act as doping - that is, first euphoria - apotom depresnyak. Those features that are offered at this moment, already excessive. They are poorly utilized and hardly used. And therefore there are no criteria for interpretation and further development hard'a. You can easily get an elementary bullshit. First let will learn what is offered, and then you can move on. And anyway, what do you mean by development hard'a? After all, the real objective limitations, the current platform level, is quite not a lack of, say, the latest models KAY'ev. The problem hard'a - an obsolete technology, which has developed its own resource, and gradually loses its reliability. AND this technique, in my opinion, 90%. In Spectrum'e no such resource, as in PC - namely, 2000% of the capitalization - and and therefore there is no possibility to maintain inefficient, non-business solutions - whether they are in the technical, organizational or ideological spheres. There is also no possibility of pretending that non-business solutions work - it requires enormous expenditures on advertising - wishful thinking is very a lot of money, because required to instigate reality. If your phrase to understand how "` (-b to popular stereotype, that specifications define level of development (Paul transducer, platforms, hardware) - I do it in the roots are not I AGREE. In fact, it's the same thing assume that capacity TECHNICAL HARAKTRISTIK leads to automatic CAPACITY OF CONSUMER NAPOLI equation KOMP'A. The reality is that the level of Development (user, platform, equipment) are now lagging behind the technical characteristics characteristics, which are offered in the same KAY'yah. <: On all other entries: He has long been conceded:>. It's actually not quite true. PC and Spectrum - a Different computers, IT IS DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. Mechanical correlation of parameters is empty. I'll try to illustrate. First, associative. Comparing maximum speed of tanks and helicopters, can be concluded that the tank is worse - and the thickness of armor - the opposite is better. But this the level of kindergarten. Next to the parameters: <Quality and reliability>. What concerns quality, it is difficult to comprehend something, because <On the tastes no>. But the relative reliability of the situation is quite different. THIS IS VERY concrete concept. There is safety in failure and the reliability of a failure. So, for example, the reliability of a failure is determined not ONLY QUALITY PRODUCTS. There still limitations associated with the program reliability and security of supply. In the same MS-tion to implement a resource for reliability of a failure is possible only if availability of uninterrupted power supply. Because the reliability of electricity supply Below, on the reliability of the RS-ka. But for some reason Spectrum'e to none '$ c, k "% bao, although the same KAY'i, for example, have a reliable hardware sequence, comparable to the reliability of electricity supply (ie, it is certainly lower, but only slightly, and only Only at times, but not by orders of magnitude). Hence, There are still some restrictions, which is more important rather than the reliability of electricity supply and reliability of the equipment (and they are comparable - both quantity same order). So, these constraints are reliability software (which Recently written exclusively lamer) and the reliability of (often again the same lamer). It's one thing if the PC to is in the bank and works for its intended purpose, ie, used in administrative and industrial purposes - shakes grandmother. It is clear that the failure will cost bank. Therefore, the uninterruptible power supply the doctor ordered. So, the bank Spectrum'u do nothing, because this is not a machine for business'a (IBM), a machine for home use (Home Computer). In home applications, such reliability is meaningless - as costs for maintenance and operation of the UPS exceeds the costs of the loss of information in result of the failure. Reliability - is the same the best technical parameters Capacity which is beyond the measure has no meaning. Note that in a conversation <Op.Let.> the reliability comes only in connection with the OS. To use the operating system reliability of the fleet (90% of cars) - is really not enough. <: Software development:> Again, this is the fruit of comparison with RSkom. In Spectrum'e ON OTHER. Some kinds of software in Spectrum'e not only /. b., c, that the absence of The corresponding problem - that is, there is no need in this software. This is primarily With regard to professional tasks / applications - as SPECTRUM - a HOME COMPUTER. <Technical and informational support> really leaves much to be desired. Once again, however, it is connected with a PC-com. There have adopted all at holyavu - ie, pays a third party (and ultimately State which, in turn, extracts money from the pockets of its citizens). This creates the corresponding stereotypes that complicate the work in this direction. I think that RSshniki weakly currently imagine how many are actually worth CONTENTS RSka. And it is immeasurably more than they pay. But soon holyava end. In Spectrum'e happened in early 90's, and on a given moment of the technical and information support is exactly in the Meta and the extent to disburse users. I wonder what will happen to the PC platform, when it will be in a similar situation. <For sale peripherals> necessary have the components to the bus, and more generally sense - with standard joints. 90% Park does not have them. Therefore, production periphery is associated with significant difficulties. <: Most do not yet see the real sense to replace my computer>. A users do little to actually see it. Me waiting for order, the situation is rather interesting. The cost of repairs is constantly growing and is not far behind (and can not keep up!) against inflation. Repairers in soaps - they are already Do not. Machines are worn out, exhausted their resources. And it will make progress - and on the rise. What is not slow ska zatsya as on price and on the timing and quality of repair. It is an objective process. <: The main campaign in Spectrum Media (And <Op.Let.> including) was conducted in order to keep users on the platform, there are currently more than we should start an advertising company in order to attract new users to the platform: never before had a computer at home>. Afford some considerations. 1. Spectrum media can perform advertising functions only within the platform, as they have no exit to the outside world (I-net is not external, and PC platforms, and where users are lost, and not acquired melt). 2. Implementing external to platform advertising requires about order of magnitude more resources (rather than internal). In the presence of those stereotypes that There are a Spectrum'e - namely, for support and software no need to pay - Money could not be returned. Ie it will be an act of charity, as the price of advertising in a single HARD'a NOT FOR SALE. 3. We must understand that new users actual users automatically Nor are - we must spend money, time and effort to their teach - that is, create some sort of idea of what they are dealing with, it is is why this is necessary, etc. Necessary literature and some sort of environment where they could get a resp. support. Ie very high risk (for Outdoor advertising) otovarit machines random people they do not need (which will not be able to use them. 4. Spectrum is still not a finished product, because difficult to connect to the TV. Therefore, selling Spectrum traditional methods is difficult - if at all possible. No standard junction in TV. Ideal in this respect Scurt, - but it is not all TV. 5. The idea that new users bring with them significant money, demand and any resources is untenable. On the contrary, Section 3 (see above) outweigh " their contribution. And certainly do not want to think E. that, under the attraction of new users means a regular pyramid construction (new users pay the money and contain old users - "grandfathers"). OL OFESSIONALAM PAY TO ALL. Otherwise, just do not will be - regardless of whether there will be new users or not, there would be some work on attracting new users or not. 6. What do you think you can attract new users to the platform? Other options, rather than "prokubrivanie brain - or, as you rightly pointed out, "promotion" simple and can not be. New user Tel means a person who buys a new PC. It is obvious that there can be my gain. But, basically, in my Responsibilities include only the sale of computer + technical - only! - K. Nsultatsii + software warranty / maintenance paid hard'a. In fact, what happens otherwise - I have to study support and maintenance in a broader sense. Ie perform `operates through a Global for which hard-company simply does not fit, - Ie efficiency of money is low. This is the same as plowing the garden at tank. Should be independent of education (structures k) firms engaged in support (soprovozhdeniem. So these No structures. Software companies do not. Network engaged porazitirovaniem, destroying existing structures. Members believe a "n rogrammistami and money do not pay. Moreover, they are sure that you only need to pay for hard, - everything else should be nothing. Therefore, there is no corresponding structures. Ie reason users' studios - but not me. But the problems continued into the platform - and how Consequently, I have. That's what I am, for example, new users can be interested in. in the acquisition of KAY-1024 Ishnoy? Technically it is - but not more than 90% of bus fleet has not, therefore, the production of periphery n `akticheski impossible. The fact that you can go to rukosuystve - It is folly lamer. And what sense is bus, if not the periphery. So what's the problem? In me - or those 90% of the lamer, who are waiting peref% peripheral devices, contact - and sidyuchi on their wheelbarrows, who had never wait for? Turbo mode? Technically, he Again, there is, but where is the program? And the reason is again the same - 90% of companies in which both 3.5 MHz works with Greek% Ham half, - plus non-copyright, aggravated networks. Winchester? Technically, he there, but where soft? And, more importantly, where it include? In the shed, which today or tomorrow, and the collapse itself (tsya? Therefore, the mainstream - replacing the existing fleet. In so far as possible NOT attract new users and those who once already have dealt with SPECTRUM'om. Postolkuposkolku in the sense that that the ten machines replaced a new one users of such a plan. It is more reasonable. And then, why did you decide that new users do not have? They are. If It was not the case, then the number of users is rapidly decreased to - or platform would be "grew old" - that too is not so . Another thing is that this is a teenager who for years 16-18. Spectrum also operates as a thoroughfare. First person gets on Soectrum, then into the net and then - for PC-to. And all this holyavu. Therefore, the basic direction - keeping users on the platform. And not through advocacy, - How do you write to - and making appropriate applications for companies 2225-year-olds. Those zheobolochki Terminated footnotes would have contributed to this. If the upper age limit increased by only Year, and it already gives rise to the platform 15-20% because 90% of users - is the age of 17-23 years. And nobody was going to RSYA FORCED TO KEEP THEM - not like - Good riddance. Let will find happiness in RS-kyo. Any negotiations for the sale of my machines I think, still a personal conversation - and if not met in person, at least to the phone. For the simple reason that there is no standard contract - yes, probably, and E-E may exist. The only thing I can say is that the dealer - Is primarily REGULAR sale. If you can afford to, then and conversation makes sense. It is also obvious, Thu . You must have (or have included) into a kind of structure, not necessarily formal or hierarchical, and have it a certain weight. Otherwise it is impossible to establish a regular sale. * That also noted that all the above with respect to new users have to you only tangentially related. Another thing is that you are 'll feel like my policy on the market, as my followers + Duration of Action. You can sell new computers users - if you think this is possible and justified. Everything depends on the situation, which is to misuse you. "... Hold Conference ..." - it's a good idea. Another thing, as it implement in practice. Personally, for myself, I I see this as follows: near exposed machinery (KAY'ev) will raspisanitse, on which will be indicated by the time I I will attend. If someone has any questions - please. What As for some more refined orgmeropriyaty (conferences) then-eponyatno: Who will organize? on any Principles? Who will be there to engage in discussion? What is there to discuss? These seemingly elementary questions, determine that the results obtained ath. A rally can happen - with zero benefit. Here's an example of what you speak at this conference? Your actual weight is unknown to me (judging by the letter, Do you regularly rinse the brains in the networks - but is rather a disadvantage than advantage), so that you can think of no more than a user. Real work experience and some practical results from a BAE nevernyaka there be can not - and therefore your views may have a weight at the level of "take note" - no more. As for the dealer's work - it's still wishful thinking - that of the floor. First comes out - is unknown. This is confirmed by further Text of letter: "... a concerted decision on the concept of uniform standards ...". In order to take concerted solutions, you must have either the authority (If this is a hierarchical system, which Spectrum is not), or weight - otherwise "Negotiated solution" would be no more than hot air. And the time will be wasted. Even on the basis of Western experience can be said that none of technical solution adopted in this way (democratically, collectively, to Conference) will NOT be viable. All the standards are. Bscheprinyatymi and working at the moment - were de facto, ie, first as Intercompany. And already then, when the internal standards proves to be viable and tselesoobraznos Tb, it becomes accepted. After that it gets final appearance in the form of technical standard with full its regulation (Ie de jure - on paper). On the contrary there is only "Russia - hence the problem. The law (and the technical standard - it in fact, the law) can not be made with to somehow change the situation - he will be not viable, and will be cut off - Ile (in other words, do not will be executed. Thus it turns out lawlessness. The law always fulfills Recognizing the role, ie made de facto, - on the basis of the situation. And it gives the first situation is the status of de jure. This is also a chimera - that can now well together and there is something FINALLY solve. Do not be surprised if it is cultivated in the networks. People who are present there, never dealt with the real deal - and because the relevant bugs. Conferences can play, and play only a coordinating, advisory role, - No more. Specific decisions on the conference x NOT ACCEPTED, they are taken people who attend these conferences (or might not), outside These conferences - but also having weight, impact. "... The whole civilized world!" - No be confused entourage and "myth" of real activities - see above. "Conference on the ... standards." Please note that the word GENERATION has some great sense of "Address", "to take concerted solutions, etc. - Be attentive s to the language. "Common position" is good when there is a clear goal. By the way, if there is a clear goal, then the most appropriate structure - hierarchical. Upon reaching the goals she samoraspuskaetsya. You can decree Th CLEARLY goal Spectrum'a? For example, I can not. So there must be a certain backlash, gap, the sector of search. Again, this is not should be interpreted as a call to anarchy, and every kind of obstruction having aya standards. "... The problem: ... the collapse of the software market ..." In my opinion the problem is the failure of copyright rights. And as the collapse of the software market - is a consequence. And, incidentally, not the least role in this $ Barely play online. "... By creating a central distribution center." This is a utopia. Explain why. Such a structure can not itself pay back, because problem not a lack of SOFT (although even there it is) - and NON-COMPLIANCE copyright (or otherwise of theft). Its the same fate, that "Inforkom", "Formak", "Logros and etc. I understand your point. Needed resource, which could at x olyavu use the network - because no matter how their databases (the software, customers programmers) nor the mechanisms for getting money from customers in the networks do not. Ie Let a good uncle to build day both - and we'll pass them later. In practice exactly what happens. Indistinguishable customer korporirovannogo in the network (and to sell him software must be N times more expensive than where N - number of users on the network) from isolated stimulated the user (unit price sales). Otherwise, it will be a mechanism of exploitation of isolated networks users. There are also more general considerations. "CENTRAL Distributorship Center "is dangerous because it is unique. The reliability of such a structural organization very small. One wrong strategic resheE-s, - and the consequences are fatal to the entire structure (in this If the platform). This type of structure "Star" - hit the center, and all flies in the trash. This is a degenerate tree (Wood / onimaetsya in the topological sense), ie again an element of hierarchical structure. By the way, the way it happened after the collapse of the "Inforkoma", "Formaka" and in part, "Logrosa. Members were from. Mulated - as between themselves and from professionals. Network, in part (not everywhere!), restored the connection between users, combining them into a kind of conglomerates, but there is NO PROFESSIONALS, - T hese structures flawed initially. Not be surprised if over time the number of users will fall so that the formation of conglomerates of this type of network (s) proved impossible - and then again will observe the copyrights (via mechanism of trafficking by mail) - that is, size of the platform will come into line with the moral and ethical qualities of its users. By Senka and hat. You can certainly try to capture the base Data Logrosa "(we talked to Akimov), but without exclusive rights. Ie desirable to have multiple firms heiresses Logros'a. Survive / no E "Yzhivut - that's their problem. "Publication of Spectrum PERIODIC Print magazine. "It's a good idea - but then again, how to implement? Cursory list the problems: - who will organize? - Where to take high-quality materials? - What is quality of materials? (Essentially a question: Who is the editor?) - How to organize a sale? Now in more detail. Well, for starters - the price. It depends the volume and complexity of implementing (Because the issue clearly can not be massive - like "Kaleidoscope"). Actually, printing costs fall with the volumes, but growing, "cheat" the sale (since the publication in a narrow range). Therefore, the minimum is reached, in my view, in the circulation of hundreds of copies and the price then of about 50 - 100 p. at 100 pages (brochure). The problem with marketing can be solved as follows. Who providing materials in advance disburse number of copies proportional to the number placed mateE `ialov (Ie% of area (print) =% of circulation). Of course, should be an editor. I, personally, have enough worries, except that at first will require financial support - that is, embedded (e money. The most that I can offer - this is my share point in the + Price-list + advertisement in the "Op.Let.". In Basically, it can and will be working. The problem is price - p. 50-100. for cat in the bag (Mon Achalov) - and this wholesale price. Ie on the ground will cheat. And how to collect money on a prepaid basis? Money use is dangerous, because it is likely that will not be able to sell copies, benefits intention% of left-wing people who for their words do not respond. I understand that we have Country councils (albeit a sign and change) and directions made by all and sundry and they are free. But some real resource, the real basis for practical deyatelnoEati they do not create. Similarly, with good wishes. Year, commercials in the 98-meter effort was such an attempt - but it ended in nothing. As for the firm (s) Nemo, I advise you to pay attention on the advertising package - he does not like you? Of course, difficult to discern in it, "the print magazine, but and advertising in the literal sense, it is also not very similar. You can call it a mutant rudimentary - but the mb. Pays off. Ie levels Yan edition corresponds to the clients. Their real Needs, opportunities and performance. Moreover, perceived to be a real fact, which does not depend on what They say, but is avisyaschy from What They are, as a statistical average. I tried to expand the advertising package - but MONEY DOES NOT WANT NOBODY invest. Programmki all love flipping, but to promote them something there are none - it is understandable - IS MONEY WORTH - and copyright is not respected. "... Podiskutirovat with you ..." - And why not? (C) Nemo P.S. Notice that now sending advertising package + "Op.Let." is 15 p. stamps.
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