Articles - talk about the stage, c-jeff VS elfh: "in the 2000's every week there are new releases, a press, and now some floss ..."

<b>Articles</b> - talk about the stage, c-jeff VS elfh:

scene talks
by c-jeff/bw and elfh / cpu

...

c-jeff: phuck. I sit here now and I remember 2001-2002. then
well almost every week / two out any new
releases. the press was in the end. and now some stupid blunder
everywhere.

elfh: I confess, to me this is not seen. general
sad state of affairs certainly, but I once more think about
future, ideas, and accomplishments. and even that the press 
that came out a couple of years ago - in most cases even more 
depressed their content. I'm still hoping to return to the life 
of someone from old people. many began to give less time 
spectrum only because of social disorder manifested too

strongly. over the years, it's normal.

c-jeff: I do not quite agree with you. press of the time though
least in part, but was devoted to so-called. stage, she lit up 
any events published report on the party, the latest a couple

months ... what is it now? scene is not enough people who
we could do that or just on it nothing happens?

elfh: You know all the answers. events, though small,
but they are all still there. to make a good magazine, to live 
all this. would not otherwise be obtained. and live illusory 
things when bursts of activity around you come around once a 
year very difficult. requires a strong internal motivation,

fueled, however, from the outside. vicious circle. plus the
continuously wound around the ball of the obligations
attachments, laziness in the end. All this slows down
the circulation of energy in the world, we call spekka scene.

c-jeff: it is! you can cite as an example the actual
rot gfx-scene at Spectrum. nowdays because there were only
unit who can actually draw something without some
Zapara! other famous-artists relizyatsya only to the party, yes
and often at the top only. Although it is quite possible that 
this is only seasonal display, but I think it is this

"Seasonality" and undermines all that vitality of our scenes 
with you. yes and, in general, as can be here to speak, even if 
participation in Festival / vote-filling forms organizers 
should kick all and whole? because it is so precisely because 
of this that's very lazy, or simply unwilling to do 
elementranye things we have 6 works gfx-compo, biased results, 
and so on ... 

elfh: but you never wondered why speccy, c64,
possibly on other platforms, I follow started
I confess, not so long ago, very well developed up? and not only
in the msx and gfx, but in demah at all? I was reminded of this 
theme, because the other day moran discussed it with me.


c-jeff: I think just the scene on these machines
themselves quite simply outdated. No, not dead but it is 
outdated. is a simple "exhaustion of the finger." and I believe 
that with our you need to stage a new breath, it needs a dope

drugs, glue, pills ... anything! just that she should
live.

elfh: all the basic concepts were formed long before the advent 
of computers in general, and what we do, because it shows his 
vision of the world, interweaving these strands on which rests 
universe, giving rise to something unknown. and the doping, I 
think not last long. that is necessary for each of us is

look inward and try to recreate exactly what
will open as a result of these searches.

c-jeff: so then where is all this? however, do not regard this
phrase as a question. people must walk to everything himself, 
or simply impossible. but generally, if the back in 2000-2001 
there was some competition, for example, in the same demo 
compo, but now, I think work on the most part, made only for 
otmaza, and only in rare cases otherwise. just understand, I 
want to see good and the saturated component at least once a 
year. Tell me what you can say about the work of the main 
party, the 2000-2003? 

elfh: I do not think that much of the work being done to otmaza,
or maybe I just do not notice that I do not like. this with
happening to me quite often. and about the work of the major 
party I say only one thing - our scene evolves. This process

Not everyone will be able to survive, and not for all the scene 
was integral part of life to continue your search and

creation here. reality pulls us back. however, these themes
addressed in adv # 15, we all care about similar things that 
are not surprising.


c-jeff: and all the same crystal was right about what our
stage requires multi-platform team, what are the
on c64/amiga/pc / ... But here's the question - why do not they
attached to us and how it can be done? in fact, IMHO, one of
real way out of our stupor stsenovogo! possible that
even one step could pave the way for many others! In addition, I
I think that we need to promote the Spectrum scene on the main
demopati world (assembly, breakpoint, the party, ..) into
various oldschool-nomination. because then the world stage
see that we have our own culture. swill
placebo would make a good demo for one of these festivals,
but apparently did not work out ...

elfh: Yes, of course need to promote the scene, but think a 
little over time, from what our culture has evolved - when I 
could view demos on C64, ammy, pc, then to his deepest

Unfortunately realized that most of the ideas (at least
regarding the effects of) borrowed from other platforms. to
Fortunately, this is now rarely seen. well, and multiplatform
command does not arise for one simple reason - lack of
communication. and here, even e-mail can not always solve the 
problem. have themselves to chase the foreign party and relive 
all the occurring together. available is not much, but I think 
with time the situation will change, at least the Finns are to 
us ride. well and still, the lack of opportunities to go abroad

consequently leads to the fact that our demos out there do not 
appear. exhibit work at the event where you did not 
prisutstvuesh, less fun than getting an immense energy

charge at the demoparty, when your rushing things on the big 
screen. 

c-jeff: but then, for example, hooy-program for two years in a 
row exhibited demo oldschool compo at assembly, and personally 
to the party they were not present (?). It just creates such a 
strange Impression: seems to be a scene, and at the same time 
not. we one half, called "russian scene", and all other

another, the world.

elfh: gasman / h-prg present at the assembly in recent years. 
even despite the fact that over time, geographical barriers are 
gone, Russian scene will still be allocated to its native.

pay attention to literature, film, music, culture
whole. our eternal longing, searching, faith manifested 
everywhere. but I understand what you mean, speaking of the 
division. we volemsya place gradually, with the adoption of the 
English language, with emergence of opportunities to travel 
freely around the world. soon I will be 27 years, I've already 
got a job close to ideal, but it means that just a couple of 
years we meet with setok'om on altparty, without waiting for us 
to be all of 60 years, and he organizes this event to oldschool

pensioners. and once all this is happening to me, means and
someone else, domestic social issues are resolved favorably.
Although life is constantly opening presents is not always the 
ones that you want to see.


c-jeff: similar question was raised in vsemiizvestnym raver'om
se # 3, then went to all these dirty showdown with cannibal'om 
... But on the one hand Raver was right. but our people were to

all this as hitting and interpreted in their own way ... sorry, 
of course. 

elfh: Unfortunately, I do not remember what was the article, but
I think the reason as always in the same - we do not know how 
or explain nor perceive the interlocutor, as he wishes. I hope I

this has to teach, and all the others too. but in general, all
develops pretty good, and our isolation from world
You can find the positive aspects - identity development. 
already now it is bearing fruit. I think, will continue to be 
interesting. shall soon see.