Unbel! Ever - an interview with Unbel! Ever / Extreme (MMA) on the Spectrum and the demoscene.

<b>Unbel! Ever</b> - an interview with Unbel! Ever / Extreme (MMA) on the Spectrum and the demoscene.

__intervyu with Unbel! ever / Extreme
__kq \ skrju, Unbel! ever / Extreme, ob.dec.zooz


<kq\skrju> I'll start with the most interesting question: the 
party. You were on many, but there was no report. Why? I am 
sure you had something to say. 

<mma^x7m> After two phenomenal performance report with the E97
FT98, and I just could not write anything like that on the
other events. All other records are more critical notes or a 
simple listing of facts. Since in life we must strive for 
continuous self-improvement, I do not write a ticky-tacky 
report - just so good can not be obtained - let There will be 
no. 

Published - of all the party except ascii 2002i cafe 2002.

<kq\skrju> Well, in this case, at least for now you can tell us 
everything. The latest batch, which you have been, it is cafe 
2002, your impressions of the organization? On the work later. 

<mma^x7m> impressions about the organization simply does not. 
This is not a topic for interviews - rather, the subject for a 
monograph. Organization was not. Was ground for the party. We 
dug all of this soil time since Wednesday morning. By Friday on 
this basis there what it shoots ... On Saturday the party 
miraculously started on Sunday the same miracle continues ...


<kq\skrju> Works? As in your vote-sheet had been placed demo?

<mma^x7m> work was interesting, especially in those demokompo. 
Well, it is pointed out in my opinion, all those present. I had 
no worksheet. I For several years in a row does not vote on 
demoparty.Po at least, do not vote where involved in the 
organization. This is not a principle and not true - just do 
not have time to vote (this time), and do not want to vote, 
when you realize that by this number of sheets increase by 1 
(they also must be considered later), it's two. 

<kq\skrju> LOL

<kq\skrju> at the party attended by many people, surely you
communicated with, say, Placebo: what do you think, Sairoos at 
the really tired and walked away from the scene? skrymaah said 
that he noticed cooling of the former fervor.


<mma^x7m> Unfortunately, ogranizatsiya party is time consuming 
and poobschatsya really can not. Sairoos not tired of 
programming - he was tired of the lack of technical 
competition. We accordingly must be tired of the same type of 
work Placebo.Nadeyus on two things: that Placebo will write a 
new job, and that she is not the same as the previous ones.


<kq\skrju> In his article, "Run, Scene, Run!" I'm talking about
that at this moment, the Spectrum is a real prospect to get 
zx-section multi-platform teams, say, haujobb, etc ..


<mma^x7m> Oh for heaven's sake - let's. But it will not add us
skills - these guys write something for fun-whether it is
a masterpiece - that is the question ....

<kq\skrju> Do you think you need to do? I mean
this integration, the fresh blood.

<mma^x7m> Well, nothing it does not need. These fans themselves
come to develop new platforms - they are platforms like
trophies to his record in the history of the group. Another 
thing is that Actually none of us will not come: now the good 
old 8bit Programming is much more important for devices 
handheld, from gaming machines (GBA), and mobile phones. No 
will not develop a car with a 20 year history, if want to 
ponastolgirovat - much more fun and more useful to write a 
something soft for your same cell phone:) 

<kq\skrju> While you another perspective: speccy compos on
Partee level m's? This addition, which will help promote the 
platform, also gives impetus to the creation of new demo! More 
precisely, demo new level. 

<mma^x7m> No - hardly so sharply you can change something. Our
inheritance - the union. The world will soon lose its disparate 
8bit scene, and get a such 8bit USSR, a community of fighters

old school, single stage, where people are enthusiastic about 
the releases on any of the old platforms, largely because that 
they themselves would all look at the emulator. :) So Speccy 
you just move all the components combined - as it Gasman did on 
the Assembly this year. 

<kq\skrju> That is ideal - Common c64/zx compos, as
say, on the phat?

<mma^x7m> No, the ideal - dedicated 8bit party type Forever
or a combination of tenders for major demopati.

<kq\skrju> You probably know that Pheel / PHT, apparently,
ceases to draw for Spectrum, and after him and pROF/4D;
Paracels / PCBvse more keen amiga / pc pixel-scene. How do you
you think, does not die if pikseling on the Spectrum?

<mma^x7m> people to draw their full right to Mona Lizuimeyut
forget how to put the pixels. RST # 7c blame that he did 
nothing after EA2 not. If you think you have achieved 
everything and you have nothing else - you have the right stop. 
I do not know whether these people you chose to leave

Spectrum, but I know that they have done enough to get away 
with legends. 

<kq\skrju> What do you think about the press today? SE lost its
coder Phoenix'a not know how it will affect the future of the 
magazine; Buzz and Adventurerdostatochno active ... However, 
the reason will you ^ _ ^ 

<mma^x7m> What happened to Phoenix'om?

<kq\skrju> I do not quite know, but from reliable sources that 
he resigned from Spectrum. 

<mma^x7m> interesting to look at your reliable sources:)

<kq\skrju> Raver / PHT / DCS

<mma^x7m> In any case, I can not judge what will happen to
electronic publications on this computer. I, unfortunately, not
read most of what happened the last time. Not read
purely on technical grounds, but these publications you - well,
it's just such iconic enough things that just come out 
periodically. All used to it and everybody likes it. Talk about 
some progress here meaningless - publications reached a certain 
level - the main thing is not to slide down. 

<kq\skrju> Roughly speaking, today you are not commonplace in
course of affairs at a news scene? [You have not lost anything, 
tell you a secret ^ _ ^] 

<mma^x7m> No, why - sometimes skim, look over ...
Phenomenon-Lamergy, Psychoz, Generation Z. .. I can still 
something recall - early to bury me something.


<kq\skrju> If we compare the time when he left and borndead
today's time, what has changed? In the platform, people in you?

<mma^x7m> in me changing kolosalny what has changed in the 
other I I just can not judge, but speaking about the platform - 
we just have more cohesive, empty spores replaced us the truth, 
and truth - it is a study in the search for roots, in their 
study. I'm looking for roots, and happily they are learning. 
It's a pity that it comes without any work - all of this 
knowledge remain in me. So Brazo a precedent Selfishness.


<kq\skrju> You do not have the impression that the general 
level of education of people in terms demoscene noticeably 
dropped? [Newcomers] 

<mma^x7m> And you see the newcomers?:) or consider themselves 
educated in the demoscene? Or think I'm educated? Or do you 
think that can be learned ?????? ETOmozhno only co-create 
yourself, and learn how ETOdelali to you. 

<kq\skrju> I totally agree, but now people do not want to know
even as it was before them, they just say "scene" with an acidic
mine on the face and smugly say to all the pc only
make that play Quake!!! Before that, they wanted something
know, watched the work of other teams and acknowledge them, 
learn!, now they all dismiss and deny the demoscene! This if for

newcomers, and those who do not wipe out, not newcomers.

<mma^x7m> How many words ... Still easier as dirt. Computers
Year after year, changing their status. Tomorrow will be the 
same comp conventional devices in every home like a 
refrigerator or television set - and then the magic is over. 
Now compare the appearance of demoscene and the penetration of 
computers into our lives. Then all was ... Novo. Then the 
complex was magic. Now this box Search abstracts on the 
Internet, in between shopping in online shops. 

No demoscene .....

<kq\skrju> Maxim, do you mean: Global Death demoscene?

<mma^x7m> demoscene is not dead, it simply no longer
updated. Here's a simple example: the day you turn on the radio 
and did not even think about it, and in the 20-ies the last 
century - the radio was the same demoscene. Agree? 

<kq\skrju> Not really. Demoscene - creativity. It can change
shape, but the essence remains the same - self-expression and 
competition. These things, in my opinion, will not die until 
the last man to die. 

<mma^x7m> die will not die - but modified. For us, this means 
that the demoscene disappears and a new form of COMPETITIONS 
and expression. 

<kq\skrju> Maxim, we go to a high of matter ^ _ ^

<mma^x7m> No - states. Realizing this, we can get rid of 
unnecessary debate. 

<kq\skrju> Let's not look at such a distant future,
say about it we're sure to talk in the summer of 2003.

<mma^x7m> Okay, let's sensation. Declare openly and honestly:

I - Belarusian!

<kq\skrju> You - Belarusians?

<mma^x7m> found out recently.

<kq\skrju> Under what circumstances?

<mma^x7m> that is proved Zanussi, checked up with vodka:)

<kq\skrju> and looked to the state, putting a stamp of 
"Russian" in the the column "nationality"?


<mma^x7m> State was in the dark - it turns out, all these
years, as in the classic Mexican television series, my parents
concealed their history and my roots! So I get
Belarusian with small home somewhere near Brest.

<kq\skrju> Tell me honestly, how many cars vodka Paul Pavlov 
promised you for this recognition? 

<mma^x7m> This recognition will become an old man as quite a 
shock. Waiting Invitation to Psycho teamsrazu after kriik # 3.


<kq\skrju> Maxim, if you can now openly admit
that action at the Spectrum on you can no longer expect?

<mma^x7m> No, not mogu.U me ideas for a bunch of projects. 
Opportunities for much less. 

<kq\skrju> Do you think it really is today releasing to the 
e-mag English? Surely, when he was editor in chief of your 
Borndeadu you had such thoughts. 

<mma^x7m> This can and should do. That is the unity of all
remaining 8bit platforms is only possible if
we speak the same language. Why not choose
English? Maybe not in its pure form, may be what is
simplified surrogate, but the general and common to all. Such a 
publication is easy to produce on a regular basis, as quickly 
enough You can receive articles from the active western 
scenery. I think not place and reprints from sources not 
previously available spektrumistam. Examples of such sources of 
mass. I'm such a huge interest to read the electronic version 
paperzin'a Illegal propagating in the 80 years in the narrow 
circles of the elite crackerz scene at c64. Now there is a 
massive company in the World Of Spectrum Accommodation scanned 
versions of famous Spectrum printing publications. There is a 
mass of interesting information and I think not a sin to borrow 
something equipping their comments with hindsight. 

In short, make a good edition now available! English or
in Russian - is not important. However, the desire to English
variant I personally endorse. One need only note that I am a
edition, not to fixate on the demoscene. You just need to 
sharpen attention to the fact that we have in mind 8bit - 
demoscene, games, new hardware design, history - that's a good 
topic for today's electronic edition. 

<kq\skrju> Tell me more about the status of the Extreme?

<mma^x7m> I'll skip this question because it does not consider 
itself competent to make any statements. 

<kq\skrju> Do you know anything about the main party2003? Where
is that it will be, will there be you?

<mma^x7m> While I know nothing. If something is global - I
sure there'll be there. I just want to note that after the 
events Moscow hostage-taking, mass actions in the format

demoparty will be extremely complicated - at least in big 
cities. 

<kq\skrju> Desire something for us all, and sorry for such a 
small, taken in a hurry the interview. In any case, I think it 
will be interesting for the stories: Unbel! everobraztsa 
December 2002. 

<mma^x7m> Wish can be only one - not relaxed! Take a look at 
the progress the way, remember how it all began, living again 
every moment of his life stsenovoy. I think you do not just 
already thought of the impermanence of all this? Me too ..... 
However ... every time I watch the weather forecast on TV, for 
me it is infinitely more than just temperature and humidity. 
Speaker calls the city, and I remember my friends who live 
there. And each city gives his memories, his feelings ..... We 
badly rich! We have a whole new world and a lot of friends! 
Hardly anyone else in such yunnom age may be STOLKOdruzey! AND 
All of these friends gave us a common cause - our demoscene. 

In times of BornDead'aya liked to use the epigraphs of rehashed 
texts of popular songs. I want to finish it interviews the same 
format in a postscript: 



                            And after the party I shall find 
peace, 

                            I'll give soul to the devil for a 
second day! 


                                             Quasimodo Kazan