Nicron #51 06 сентября 1997

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Results - Heofitsialnye preliminary results Enlight'97.

        And again - RESULTS


(C) WLODEK BLACK


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 ZX.SPECTRUM (2:5020 / 689.100)
 Msg: 4 of 65
 From: Alex Mikhailov 2:5030 / 529.25 Mon 1 September 1997 10:03
 To: Peter Sobolev Thursday September 4, 1997 00:17
 Subj: E'97 results


    Greetings to you, my dear Peter!


Thu Aug 28 1997, at 04:16, Peter Sobolev wrote to All:

 VB>> Unofficial preliminary results

 PS> officially announce that in connection with the 
cancellation of the second day  PS> ENLiGHT'97 NO

 PS> the outcome of the organizing committee not to let 
ENLiGHT'97  PS> and NO voting data

 PS> Nobody passed.

Wow.

 PS> Any "results" have already been published or
 PS> will be published can not continue to have a relationship
 PS> to ENLiGHT'97
 PS> regardless of their veracity.

But! right in front of the entrance were collected by 
questionnaire spektrumistov and now they are Vova Larkova that

is representative of the organizing committee of the ZX'a.
IMHO, the results of which will be calculated on the basis of
these forms - and there were credible official results sabzh.
it is so, in theory?

    C Regards, Arno from Omega group.
------------------------------------ Hello, Alex!

Mon 01-Sep-1997 10:03, Alex Mikhailov (2:5030 / 529.25) wrote 
(a) letter to Peter Sobolev:


 PS>> Any "results" have already been published or
 PS>> will be published can not continue to have a relationship
 PS>> to ENLiGHT'97
 PS>> regardless of their veracity.

 AM> but! right in front of the entrance were collected by 
questionnaire spektrumistov  AM>, and now they are Vova Larkova,


It's not only as a dream? I did not have them or not.

 AM> IMHO, the results of which will be calculated on the basis 
of  AM> of these forms - and there were credible official 
results sabzh.  AM> it is so, in theory?


Absolutely not. For many reasons.


       With best wishes, Vladimir.

 ZX.SPECTRUM (2:5020 / 689.100) ZX.SPECTRUM
 Msg: 7 of 7
 From: Alex Mikhailov 2:5030 / 529.25 Wednesday Sept. 3, 1997 
23:54  To: Vladimir Larkov Fri September 5, 1997 23:20

 Subj: E'97 results


    Best regards to you, dear Vladimir!


Tue Sep February 1997, at 03:01, Vladimir Larkov wrote
by Alex Mikhailov:

 PS>>> Any "results" have already been published or
 PS>>> will be published can not continue to have a relationship
 PS>>> to ENLiGHT'97nezavisimo of their reliability.

 AM>> but! right in front of the entrance were collected by 
questionnaire spektrumistov  AM>> and now they are Vova Larkova,


 VL> It's not only as a dream? I did not have them or not.

it was planned that they will have you before
I sat down to write this letter ... I do not blame
that you could not meet and exchange
"Parts" of the results?

 AM>> IMHO, the results of which will be calculated on the 
basis of  AM>> of these forms - and there were credible 
official results sabzh.  AM>> it is so, in theory?


 VL> Absolutely not. For many reasons.

not, how ... the results of something you ought to take ...


           C Regards, Arno from Omega group.
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  ... And yet here they are, the outcome of a contest of the 
Festival. Once again I want to sincerely thank TiM'a Maxx'a and 
for all that they have done to save the results of 
competitions. If these Two guys have not appeared, it is 
difficult to guess to see if anyone else is the same, able to 
assume the enormous proportion of moral responsibility are 
concentrated in those hours to lie in my hands a pack of paper 
sheets that contain information that now allow the world to 
know their heroes. I stay in a "proud" alone with this precious 
cargo, I would took him to Moscow and _voshel_ _by_ _v_ 
_istoriyu_, leaving no chance samootrekshimsya organizers. And 
Muscovites would not host the festival, now would be thrown 
into the echo ZX.SPECTRUM same figures. But I did not, and, as 
they say, God is my judge. And the guys from SpbZxNet, Andrei 
and Maxim, TiM, and Maxx, taking the baton to save the results 
and the data is processed, and to Co-Organizer'a knock, and 
even rigged a hand grabbed! And now, Soon, the echo and on the 
web-page ENLIGHT'a, as I understand, there will be the final 
results of the Festival, which will be given official status. 
Like I understand that Mr stalls reshiltaki not removed from 
the case. If I am wrong - sorry. Concerned about the lack of 
long letters with numbers results (after the world awaits the 
second ENLIGHT-ovsky NICRON!), I called Peter on phone. In an 
interview with Maxx-om, we agreed that lasts absolutely nobody 
mess with clear mutual transfer forms and protocols contests 
(see, by the way, again above quote from Ehi!), and it is not 
clear how long it will last, I will publish in NICRON-s final 
figures, but without names and surnames, which are listed in 
the minutes of the contest schedules ZX-Spectrum, but which is 
still for some reason does not emerge into the light of day. 
The names of the same name work on the ZX-Demo-Compo known, and 
they were published in the 49-m room. Only seem to be having 
some confusion with the number of works - whether 15, whether 
16. As is known, one deme in the show did not want to work. 
However, I well remember that Leading papers call rates, and 
miss a number I do not could. In a telephone conversation with 
Maxx-om I specified data demam and I can say that the numbers 
of all prize money and a little bit acclaimed works have been 
listed correctly. Or some part of the audience lost count 
during the contest, which also not surprising, since DeMouy not 
"poshedshuyu" in its "legitimate" time, then tried to show in 
the interval between subsequent papers. 

  Now, the question of why this was done, I mean rescue
questionnaires, informal summing up, the publication of voting 
data. Are heard shouting as the illegality and the futility of 
the work. Of misconduct: The organizing committee resigned. All 
the point! On the uselessness: talk about it spectators, but 
not members! Let the average audience will try to put yourself 
in the place of the author of any work, let him come into the 
role of spat on, "throw", nobody needs - let's see what he had 
to say. Fortunately, most of the attendees did not think so, 
and collected 161 form - proof of that. I think that the 161 - 
it's not a quarter of the total. This much more. In my opinion, 
nor 1200, nor the 800 people in the hall. This is totally 
unrealistic figure. And the numbers up - both for himself the 
fact of their appearance, I have heard a considerable amount of 
"thank you". Of course, rightly I share all of this with my 
friends Petrograd!