On-Line #74
23 февраля 1997
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Mosaic - The debate on the journal "Oberon."

<b>Mosaic</b> - The debate on the journal
                 MOSAIC


(C) OLDMAN


   Frankly, I'm at a loss ... My review of the journal Oberon
(Remember that this edition is a light band Stars of
Keladan, a letter which you can see in the previous issue of 
the newspaper), published under the heading "Presentation" in 
the ON-LINE # 64, not was negative - it was critical! Despite 
the fact that I allowed myself to argue with some of the 
statements the authors, vyshesheupomyanutom review there were 
many complimentary words about the magazine, moreover, Oberon 
was named # 2 competitive electronic journals spectrophone and 
ZX-Format, and it's not all - ended with a note board must buy 
this edition. 


   The authors are the same, (and despite the fact that he 
wrote a letter to just one them, Eugene Miloon, he spoke on 
behalf of the entire group), seen in review only "attacks" on 
himself ... and sent a reply ... God would them - well, did not 
understand and do not understand their problems, everyone 
understands Because of its corruption ... Only disagreed with 
my point of view, they escorted me to the incompetence 
allegations that I was still able to swallow, given the 
previously expressed my doubts about their own solvency, but 
that I can not let questioned the validity of written me

ever reviews (arguing that I describe the software, not even 
bothering to look at it). Moreover, addressed to me came, and 
has not been substantiated, the charges of falsification of the 
facts and writing my material "dictation" the other persons. 
Questioned my e-newspapers and ON-LINE independence. According 
to the group SoK, being members of the editorial board the 
electronic journal spectrophone, I am unable to think for 
themselves, therefore, printed in the ON-LINE information is 
not may cause confidence. Perhaps I exaggerate the drama of the 
situation, perhaps, Eugene Miloon sees nothing wrong with that, 
judging by his letter, he believes such actions normal practice:


"Yes, in those days, we have not seen Spectrofon'20 (Review, 
where he mentioned, was written "rainy day", and the magazine 
from Moscow brought the one who brought back Oberon )..."


 - That is, as you can see, writing "rainy day" - a common 
thing for the electronic journal Oberon, but who gave them the 
right to judge other on its own? Another quote:


"It seems you do not obideshsya much if I say that Oberon # 2
you have not read (and probably did not even see) and wrote his 
article dictation Stepa ... "


 - I _silno_ offended by the above ...


   So the first thing I want to tell, though, perhaps, in this
already and do not need that, before writing a review of 
Oberon, I read it carefully and that the initiative at all to 
mention the publication in the newspaper was based solely on me 
and realized there was only me, without any involvement from 
outside in the editorial of the ON-LINE people.



   And, of course, I have carefully read available then I have 
in stock the second number of Oberon. Though, in something the 
authors are right, I made a miscalculation - to advertise the 
magazine, judging only by one - 2-nd number, do not read (and 
even without seeing) the 1 st number this edition ...



  Everything. Official statement I made, after that I allow 
myself some liberties, and even somewhere excessive 
emotionality. I hope readers will understand me. Although the 
original plan was the other - after that I was going to analyze 
in detail the letter Samara group to show where they made a 
mistake, but where just sporoli nonsense gently chide for 
arrogance and praise for the recognition of some of their 
mistakes, teach diskovizirovat 48 th game and write stars on a 
black background so that they are not shaking ... in general, 
to fill another 15 kilobytes of text - because the editors 
received a letter from numerous questions and offers some 
interesting discussion, in my opinion, the topics ... But life 
has introduced some changes. I just realized that it was not 
necessary. Trying to prove something Author Oberon is 
practically impossible, too, they are angry. And the readers 
themselves to understand why a previously unknown group has 
developed such a violent activity, and what are all of their 
statements. 


   Before writing this article, I decided to inquire about the 
effectiveness of advertising in the ON-LINE, and specifically, 
the popularity of the Samara magazine.



   Imagine my surprise when we found out that
Oberon has no demand in Moscow! "How?" - Thought
I, - "because the magazine is not so bad ..." When I decided to 
find out why, they told me something like: "You, old man, 
something Hilbert, obshibsya ... All satisfied the first number 
of this "remarkable" magazine ... The second lies on a pair of 
bibiesok, nobody wanted ... "I I think all figured out that I 
wanted to see very well, "the first swallow, "the group SoK And 
now - a desire fulfilled ... 


   Oh God, what a disappointment I experienced! How could I 
have pierced that succumbed to the external validity of 
incorrect, in fact, claims of numerous works by authors of 
Oberon and more accurately representing their Eugene Miloon! 
And I have recommended to readers ON-LINE to draw attention to 
this issue, nothing in better, not different from a family of 
local magazine, writing, in my deep conviction that the members 
author's family, but they, at least, not crowded with so many 
of malice and envy, which is just oozing out of Oberon. Well, 
that is, taking out the floppy and all its contents from its 
computer, I tried to gently keep her at a corner, as could not 
help feeling that because it is something dripping ... sticky 
this ... thick ... 


   Well, actually, all I can say about it as I would not want 
more ... Oh yeah! We look waiting for the promised letter from 
the Samara group Speed ​​Co., very interesting to listen to 
their point of view on so another vital today topic as hacking 
and distribution of national copyright programs with ads of his 
hack in periodicals - happy to publish their arguments and 
bring their ... 


   Last quote from a letter to the ON-LINE # 64:

"... Let's think about how quickly to distribute your paper in 
Samara." 

 - A very strange proposal to think of a person having
access to an electronic network of Fido, a ehokonferentsiyu 
ZX.SPECTRUM which regularly send new issues of the newspaper. 

                        Dmitry (OLDMAN)
                      FidoNet: 2:5020 / 689.31
                        ZXNet: 095/100.1






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