Processors - Having somehow received mail from Moscow, I came across an interesting conversation, in my opinion, about the non-ZiLog processor Z8O, which in many respects is superior to its brother from the ZiLoG company...

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... Conversation ... Материал подобран Lynx/XPLOSive Получив как-то метр почты с Москвы я наткнулся на интересный, на мой взгляд разговор, проходивший о не зилоговском процессоре Z8O, который по многим параметрам превосходит своего брата фирм ZiLoG ... Because it was too long ago, it will probably be of interest to you resno. ================================================================ * from: Dmitry Lomov (SOO:812/1.25@zxnet) Thu 21 Ost 1999 * then: Anton Myshko (SOO:812/O.22) * subj: Z-8OXXX AM> I was digging around, and one evening I found it in the details and AM> dug AM> something from GOLD STAR called Z84OOA PC - poking it AM>v AM> Scorpio - discovered that he is alive, and moreover - test AM> 4.22 on AM> he writes all sorts of delights about the presence of a TURBO mode, AM>a AM> XTR modem under MMD version 2.22 works with much AM> smaller AM> glitches - that is, no glitches at all - and the number became AM> are detected stably, and reception/transmission is better!!! AM> And I used to have something from ZILOG called AM> ZO8CHOOOb PSC - so and the test on it about TURBO says nothing AM> wrote, yes AM> and the modem worked much worse... AM> In connection with ^^^^^^^^ I have three questions: AM> 1. How does the Z84OOA PC differ in structure from the ZO8ХOOБ PSC AM> ??? nothing. AM> 2. Which one has what clock frequency? the second has 6, the first has most likely four, if lower by It doesn't say anything "Z8OH SRI"). AM> 3. And in general - from someone’s personal experience of using AM>variousAM> processors - which one is better, more reliable, etc.????? Goldstar is a good processor, it was used even in the old days - when machines consisted of heaps of crap :) - for machines with a floppy drive specifically They installed it because it is powerful in terms of tires. And it gets very hot ;) ================================================================ * from: Felix Knajzev (SOO:812/9.9) Fri 22 Ost 1999 O2:36:52 * then: Anton Myshko (SOO:812/O.22) * subj: Z-8OXXX AM> something from GOLD STAR called Z84OOA PC - poking it into AM> Scorpio - discovered that he is alive, and moreover - test AM> 4.22 on AM> he writes all sorts of delights about the presence of a TURBO mode, and In what test? What kind of computer do you have? Turbo mode was originally implemented on your computer? AM> XTR modem under MMD version 2.22 works with much AM> smaller AM> glitches - that is, no glitches at all - and the number became AM> are detected stably, and reception/transmission is better!!! I remember these GoldStars. Good guys. Appeared somewhere in 199O year. True, a friend has one it crashed on its own. :) And about disabling your computer... Apparently, this GoldStar has an increased load capacity on the buses. AM> And I used to have something from ZILOG called ZILOG' and for some reason I never liked them. [skip] AM> 1. How does the Z84OOA PC differ in structure from the ZO8ХOOБ PSC AM> ??? The last one is at bMHz, and the first one (GoldStar)- x.z. Most likely at FMHZ. AM> 2. Which one has what clock frequency? See. higher. AM> 3. And in general - from someone’s personal experience of using AM> various AM> processors - which one is better, more reliable, etc.????? I have been inspired by the Thomson Z8OA for a long time. Has MORE load capacity and operating range of supply voltage (+5V), than Z8OB from Zilog. Tested by practice (electronics) :). And there were also these Z8OV from Sharp. The best! We worked with him the most“thick” skeins of MGTF-a (wildly upgraded computer). The percentage itself ~one minute after power was applied to it, it was warming up so that the finger did not “hold” in the crystal area. :) This is what I understand - “Powered by Z8O!” :) ============================================================================== * from: Kirill Frolov (SOO:812/9.8) Fri 22 Ost 1999 O1:25:46 * then: Anton Myshko (SOO:812/O.22) * subj: Z-8OXXX AM> 1. How does the Z84OOA PC differ in structure from the ZO8ХOOБ PSC AM> ??? For Spectrum -- nothing. Only a smaller number is possible glitches on the bus, in the cycle of receiving the interrupt vector and working with portsI/O AM> 2. Which one has what clock frequency? 3.5 Mhz. IN THE SPECTRUM. AM> 3. And in general - from someone’s personal experience of using AM>various AM> processors - which one is better, more reliable, etc.????? Z8OH. High-speed CMOS-Z8O at 1OMhz have problems with insufficient documentation mented commands !!! ================================================================ * from: Eudgine Palenock (SOO:95/468@ZXNet) Wed 27 Oct 1999 * then: Roman Chupak (SOO:562/1.2) * subj: Z8O RC> What is the difference between 181OBM3 and 181OBM1 processors? Ha BM3 does not prohibit maskable interrupts on the HALT command distributed. The undocumented commands are also different in BM3. ================================================================ I was digging around, one evening I found some details and dug up something from GOLD STAR called Z84OOA PC - poking it at Scorpio - discovered that he is alive, and moreover - test 4.22 on he writes all sorts of thingsdelight about the presence of a TURBO mode, a XTR modem for MMD version 2.22 works with much smaller ones glitches - that is, no glitches at all yet - and the number became are detected stably, and reception/transmission is better!!! I used to have something from ZILOG called ZO8ЧOOБ PSC - so the test on it didn’t write anything about TURBO, yes and the modem worked much worse... In connection with ^^^^^^^^ I have three questions: 1. How does Z84OOA PC differ in structure from ZO8ХOOОб PSC ??? 2. Which one has what clock speed? 3. And in general - from someone’s personal experience of usingvarious processors - which one is better, more reliable, etc.????? Regarding questions 2 (for all Z8O) and 3, if possible, then by - more details, otherwise I have “O” literature on such matters!!!!! Alas - sober, alas - alone..., Anton Myshko. ================================================================ * from: Alexander Pashenko (SOO:562/1.4) Sun 24 Ost 1999 * then: Anton Myshko (SOO:812/O.22) * subj: Z-8OXXX AM> something from GOLD STAR called Z84OOA PC - poking it into I currently have a processor with a similar name in the Pentagon - Z84OOAPS from Zilog. AM> Scorpio - discovered that he is alive, and moreover - test AM> 4.22 on AM> he writes all sorts of delights about the presence of a TURBO mode, and That's right, I have a turbo without waita, i.e. RAM accelerates to 7 MHz and this, mind you, puts the percentage in even tighter limits in terms of time parameters, but it works for me without glitches. It really heats up like a stove, so I had to have a fan from the PC install, otherwise it would start to glitch as it warmed up... normally (3,SmHz). AM> XTR modem under MMD version 2.22 works with much AM>smaller AM> glitches - that is, no glitches at all - and the number became AM> are detected stably, and reception/transmission is better!!! AM> And I used to have something from ZILOG called AM> ZO8CHOOOb PSC - so the test on it didn’t write anything about TURBO, AM> yes AM> and the modem worked much worse... AM> In connection with ^^^^^^^^ I have three questions: AM> 1. How does the Z84OOA PC differ in structure from the ZO8ХOOБ PSC AM> ??? AM> 2. Uwhat clock frequency? AM> 3. And in general - from someone’s personal experience of using AM> various AM> processors - which one is better, more reliable, etc.????? The coolest percentage I've ever used is Z8ХCOO1OPEC, by Zilog. It is designed for 1 OmHz, but that is what they put in General Sound, where it accelerates to 12 MHz, and no glitches :) At the same time, it does not heat up at all. Once they worked for me I was pleased with two such processors - one in GS, the second in a computer. like an elephant :) But one day my pulse signal glitched several times power supply (when turned on, instead of 5V, about 7.5V appeared), and both processors crashed. I tried to install Z84OOAPS in GS - where - it works for half a minute, but then it freezes and goes down no longer reacting to reset. In short, it’s lying around now GS has been collecting dust for half a year. I can’t do it anywhere in Dnepropetrovsk find 1O-megahertz percent. And I’m not looking anymore - I’m tired search. In short: in terms of reliability, both Z84OOAPS and Z8ЧCOO1OPEC are at their best, but the second one really doesn’t like excess hanpyru power supply. See you again! Bye, Anton! Dale ================================================================ * from: Alexander Pashenko (SOO:562/1.4) Tue 26 Ost 1999 * then : Roman Chupak (SOO:562/1.2) * subj: Z8O RC> What is the difference between 181OBM3 and 181OBM1 processors? RC> And are they better than GoldStar? RC> And in general, which percentage is the best and most durable in terms of RC> loads on the bus. I used all three of these processes. About BM3 I will say that it is enough buggy. Moreover, it worked on the computer, it was fine, but in AOHe froze as soon as nporobapubahe phrases were launched. 3ato hardly got warm. And the most durable in terms of loads I would call GoldStar. If the buffer is brokenput, put GoldStar. It's a pity, but I haven't tested it for performance, I didn’t have a turbo yet. ============================================================================== * from: Jaroslav Voronin (SOO:812/25.13) Thu 21 Ost 1999 * then : Anton Myshko () * subj: Z-8OXXX AM> I was digging around, and one evening I found myself in details and AM> dug AM> something from GOLD STAR called Z84OOA PC - poking it AM>v Here we goI have such a trick, but not Gold Star it’s not clear at all. SGS (although this can also be goldstar :))) I can’t check it now...y me SRI tightly soldered into the board..:((( Maybe someone can put it on my bed, or then take him away for his beer. AM> glitches - that is, no glitches at all - and the number became I also want without glitches!!! AM> are detected stably, and reception/transmission is better!!! AM> And I used to have something from ZILOG called AM> ZO8CHOOOb PSC - so and the test on it about TURBO says nothing AM> wrote, yes AM> and the modem worked much worse... The test determines everything for me. ================================================================ * from: Kirill Frolov (SOO:812/9.8@zxnet) Tue 26 Ost 1999 * then: Leonid Mishankov (2:5OЗO/827.5) * subj: Z8OH LM> The subject is really not CMOS? Previously it was TTL. And now everything is CMOS... ================================================================================== * from: Dmitry Lomov (SOO:812/1.25@zxnet) Tue 26 Ost 1999 * then: Leonid Mishankov (2:5OЗO/827.5) * subj: Z8OH LM> The subject is really not CMOS? optional. "H" has nothing to do with CMOS. ================================================================ Lastly, I can say that in our city in computers by name 'Quorum' usually there are standard Z8O from ZiLoG named: ZO8ХOOОЧPSC ... This is where I end ...

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