Sinclair Club #04 25 мая 2001

Интервью

SS'2000 - The last interview ETERNITY INDUSTRY.

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  The last interview ETERNITY INDUSTRY


K> First introduce yourself. Someone like
name, and who does what in the band?
D> D-Man - the organizer of the group.
S> SaiROOS - coder and part-time
musician.
Sp> Spy - coder.
K> Request to all. Tell us a little about
themselves. Here you have quite a long time
Occupation ZX-scene. The quality of your
work is striking in its fresh idea and,
Specifically, the quality of code, music or
graphics. That, unfortunately, rarely
can demonstrate the other groups.
Perhaps you have there some secret
the production of programs?
S> How bequeathed VI Lenin: Learning,
study and study again! And if
Seriously, no secret.
Pereroesh a bunch of books, here you will find there
something useful that others do not
noticed.
K> In this case, very briefly tell
history of the group?
D> History of the group? Oh-oh-oh ...
Sp> Group was ETERNITY INDUSTRY
organized October 11, 1997.
The initiator was now gone from us
Dimiurge ASH.
K> And why did he go?
Sp> It ask him.
K> But, unfortunately, is not present at
this party.
Sp> his departure, he explains very vague and
understand it is sometimes difficult.
K> And then what? Immediately ponabezhalo ten
man and united?
S> There are several independent
Groups: Anton, D-Man, PARACELS / X-FILES.
I, ASH, SENAT / SHEDOW and several
PC'eshnikov.
K> And how did this happen? Phoned and
decided to join?
D> No, I will call did not work, we have
no one has phones.
S> I remember when I ran strongly (much
drank vodka)
D> Well, meet, communicate. ASH
offered all that we should-be combined.
Then he thought for a long time and finally decided
unite.
S> Yes! Won another one! (Pointing to
walking distance PARACELS'a)
K> Who designed the logo of the group?
S> ASH ...
D> He came up with a logo, name, all
He ... Incidentally the name in terms of
English language was not written correctly.
K> And now you're happy with this name?
S> No!
D> Let's just say, not very satisfied.
S> We just do not come up until there is nothing
better.
K> I think generally renamed
stupid.
Sp> Do not even know ...
D> Well, che, a name we both like to eat.
S> You know, under the label has already been done
as kala! Something like "the Fifth
element.
K> So feces or something else?
D> From our point of view, yet it is
feces.
K> But will there be in the future something better
feces from your group?
D> Hard to say, SS'000 show ...
K> What do you bring to CC'000?
D> DEMO, music, graphics ...
S> On the PC, we ...
K> PC does not interest me! Who specifically
did DeMouy?
Sp> Here it kodil the most! (Shows
on SaiROOS'a)
K> Tell me something.
S> I-ya-ya-ya!
!> All laughed loudly.
K> Were there any problems when you write?
S> were problems with time and
computer.
K> Where did the idea or you woke up this morning and
all agreed and sat down at the computer and
written effect.
S> needed a demo, necessarily. We
was organized ETERNITY PARTY. Decided
meet and discuss upcoming projects.
D> So every year, almost the case.
S> Yes!
K> How often? Or just before
upcoming festival?
Sp> As a rule it does not depend on
Festivals.
S> Well, that's decided what to do demo.
Invented the story.
K> Who comes up with the most?
D> Basically the idea come from Paracels'a.
The end result, the story
has undergone great changes.
S> It did not fit the music composed
earlier.
D> And do need to be fast.
S> Just had a lot of things require a lot of
time.
Sp> routine ...
S> Everything was done really well, but we
rested on a truncated version. This
all were comfortable with no problems.
K> Are you satisfied with their result.
S> As a result, we are happy. We are dissatisfied with
what happened here.
K> What is your assessment of the festival CC'000?
S> In general, no organization,
Organizers disappeared no one knows where.
Gathered the people together and everything, more of them
the sound was not. Sometimes ran to the scene,
flogged some bodyagi. All party
rested on the shoulders of MMA and ACCEPT'ah and
everything! If not, they would not have Spectrum
place. Of course Rendom'u thanks for being
that this party is, it's good, but ...
D> And we have all the party so it goes.
K> Well, why that's the last festival
CC'99. I was there all well arranged.
D> Unfortunately we were not there.
S> This is because that the timing was
chosen unsuccessfully.
K> For you, the best time for
of what exactly?
S> The end of August.
K> PARADOX'2000 festival was arranged in
May. What do you think go there is
really?
S> This is just awful!
Sp> There is nothing serious to him not
prepare.
S> What can you do when you have
free time, two hours a day? Topics
over the end of May for students in the institute,
this time passing tests, etc.
K> If PARADOX held to a convenient
time, would you take part?
S> If PARADOX held at a convenient
time, came to many people and
would support this measure normal
group, then why not come.
S> And why do we even went to the
DI-HALT'99? We had the option to go to
Kazan on CAFe'99 and DI-HALT. To us
received a letter from the organizers that all
will rulez'no!
D> Then they told us
organizers come in a carpet and promised
We really cool party.
S> And in the end we got what we got
diplomas only CC'000!
D> That's literally just now, and they
now not produce any
impressions.
K> As they say, a spoon of the road for dinner.
D> Of course ...
S> more these diplomas so ridiculous we handed.
Not congratulated, not a solemn
quietly approached and asked: You need
diploma?
D> And yet ...
Sp> And the organization they have been on such a
low level. It appeared
that they did not know about the ongoing until
these festivals. Absolutely not take into account any
errors, all the problems were identical.
Computers and all equipment for
they brought with them for half an hour before the start.
S> The entire nation has long been gathered and waited
beginning, and they just announced.
Sp> In general, the standard errors
organizers.
K> And if for the conduct of DI-HALT
sponsored more than famous people? For example
The same MMA. You would have to join?
Sp> If CC'01 will, then we are on the DI-HALT
definitely not going anywhere. Just two party
pull very hard.
S> Yes, two of the festival to expose demo,
it is not realistic. Or they do
same with minor differences, but this
in my opinion is simply not serious.
Receive revelation sucks, something like
NAPALM'a.
K> ?!...
K> Your parting ZX-demoscene.
S> I guess the point is that
Spectrum'e no demoscene. People still
young ignoramus to understand what the demo.
D> Need more to watch demo on the C64,
Amiga, PC. Then all will be clear that
a demo scene really is.
S> They show some animation, and from
It will come once all the wild delight.
Animation demo, which is done in
During one evening in the studio
beats koderskoy demo which
was made two months away. In
result of strong job koderskaya
loses, frankly sucks. Need
learn to distinguish the work of freebies! That
With specific regard to Speccy, he told me
please. The only problem is insufficient
performance Z80. In other
no problems.
K> How do you feel about the presence on
party left the people who do not have
nothing to do with computers, let alone
more to the demo scene.
Sp> Perhaps the negative, they
vote for the animation.
S> The thing is that they simply do not see
What is the difference between animation and code.
So my attitude is uniquely
negative. The viewer comes to the wild
delighted with the cartoons. Demo is a demonstration of new
technologies in computer programming. This is not
means that it is a demonstration of cartoons.
I'm sure in two years will do
the same demo that we're doing now.
People will look at the demo stage PC and AMIGA.
Begin to truly understand that
it is. Education will increase,
will be on vskidku distinguish any effect from
any animation. This is evident not armed
eye when there multicolor pret 50
frames per second. This can be said
only one is naked animation! From this
come to the pig delight, I was
just angry.
Sp> I'm mildly puzzled reaction to
our work "DOGMA". Clapping only at the
pictures, I do not want to say that they
bad - they are wonderful. The effects are not
was not a reaction, they were in full
silence, as if in an empty room.
S> Simply they had not realized, no it is not
need!
Sp> Well, not that anyone is likely
minority.
K> Maybe your effects very carefully
looking, so no one clapped?
S> Those who really know,
came and spoke words of gratitude.
P> You tell me how, after ZX Demo compo to
you a man came up and told her
view our demo.
S> I do not remember anymore ...
Sp> Yes, one man came up and complimented
us. Having made a brief comment that
DOGMA too much animation. From such
words, we were shocked.
S> The question is cool effects
or are people so stupid?
K> Maybe people just believe that the ZX
You can do a lot of fast and good
effects can this is the reason?
S> Just need to think a head when
output of one frame takes up almost all
interrupt. And that it can be refined?
So think it's just silly, especially
a voxel, it is quite brake
effect.
D> Unfortunately, many people live in old
time, they only saw the point and
attribute of the plasma and all.
Sp> Perhaps this is somewhat selfish, but
We are looking forward to when people's opinions will
coincide with our opinions in the field
demoscene. On the other we are unlikely
agree.
K> Your attitude towards representatives of
PC and Amiga present at
Festival.
P> The biggest mistake is that they
compare the Amiga and ZX Spectrum as
equal computers. They can not be
compare! Spectrum is a Spectrum, Amiga and
is Amiga! And saying that the Amiga is
steeper than the ZX Spectrum, it's idiocy -
this is stupid! So can only speak
lamer! At Spectrum'e this effect
looks like the Spectrum'e, and the Amiga
looks like the Amiga! It is absolutely
different things ...
Sp> Here, for example, SaiROOS, he certainly
better than me understands the demo on the Amiga.
He said that many effects in this DOGMA
EFFECTS Amiga at the level of 99-2000 years.
S> Well, it's not entirely true, it does not mean
that they have the same quality as the Amiga.
There's certainly less polygons and colors
less, but basically right now in these
boxes do the same and will do.
Algorithms are exactly the same. Here
Paracels rightly said - people
really compare the ZX Spectrum c
Amiga, believe that it is equal
computers, it's just ridiculous.
K> Have you noticed the presence of people on the Left
this party?
S> There were of course.
D> It seems not.
S> were, they were.
K> What to do, how to fight it?
S> Nothing to do with this impossible. That he
black mark on his head set? He
man, he came, he wondered. He
really interesting, he has an interest
his own, came just hang out and everything.
K> It's the cost of any party?
S> Absolutely.
K> What projects are you really
work?
S> Games will not be at all, that's for sure, we
only demo meykerskaya team.
System software previously written, now
no longer write. At this point, we
publish a newspaper and write demo.
K> How do you feel about the constant
pressure from the other platforms on
Death Speccy???
D> It's all garbage.
S> He did not die one. Speccy alive until
there last coder writing
programs for this platform.
P> I hope that in the future Eternity
Industry will continue to work on
Spectrum'e and will ask more
new standards in the demo, and in
music, hope, and the schedule too, although it
unlikely ...

   I can not imagine how can
our team fall apart or disappear and
do more platform ZX. In my
look - leave the Spectrum is already a very
hard, I do not want to leave. I want to
draw, I want to surprise with new works,
and not only I can do that, we are all together
can a lot. It's no wonder we are all together
met such people rarely
occur. The fate of such means, though I
not particularly believe in fate, but so
formed. Would not have been at least one of
us and it would be not the same group, and such
demo just would not be ...


   Later known group of
Kovrova - Eternity Industry was
renamed and became the new name -
Placebo. Let's hope that the change
name does not reduce the quality of
created works, but rather the contrary
refresh and accelerate the evolution of the ideological 
solutions in demostroenii at Speccy.