Optron #06
09 января 1998 |
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So who's first? - When and how did the first Domestic Spectrum? ..
So, who's first? (C) Vladimir Klimus, Sergey Filimonov question for a long time tormented me. One day in conversation Sergei casually mentioned that the first Spectrum in the Soviet Union was, it turns out, was developed in Lvov, he knows people who participated directly in its creation, and that would be nice to meet these people. All work was done in the bureau of the Lviv Polytechnic Institute - a secret, modal enterprise at the time, now called the IECI ELVIT (Research Design Institute of computer measurement technology) State University Lviv Polytechnic. In organizing the meeting helped us department head Metrology Marchenko, Edward A. - Witness corporate reincarnation Spectrum in the home, the designer look of your computer case, a person have activated the first time to the TV Spectrum through the antenna input. And through nekotrye time we have meet and interview one of the authors of the first domestic Spectrum. Even on the road, when we went to a meeting with this developer, Edward A. uttered an original sentence: "If I saw Then, in the 85-m, that they "invent" Spectrum, I knew that somewhere in the 88-89-m with all enterprises of the Union completely lost RU5 memory chips, so much so that some government orders nearly it was impossible to perform, I would, of course, they do not give to do that! ". We are talking with Yuri Dmitrievich Dobush - A man who was the first in the Soviet Union produced more corporate Spektum: completely "shattered" and reworked to discrete elements of the domestic industry a top-secret chip ULA, in which, in fact, contained the entire computer, not counting the memory, processor and a pair of multiplexers. Also in development participated Evgeny Natopta and Oleg Starostenko. The work was done in 84-85 years. In the conversation also participates Edward A. Marchenko - witness the wonderful event. > Yuri Dmitrievich, first tell us what you do at the moment. UD> Today I arrive, we can say in two roles, firstly, I remain Scientist, Head of Laboratory IECI ELVIT State University "Lviv Polytechnic". The laboratory is engaged in computer technology, development electrical measuring instruments, as well as communication systems. Laboratory work continues, in my opinion, not bad. We have orders from Canada, from India: are instruments of power. Have a specific design: a devices for communication channels seal modems. Secondly, I am a member of the regional council, was the head of the Commission on to supporting the rule of law and war problems. June 23 led by the regional organization of Republican-Hrestianskoy party. Now I am a candidate for deputy Supreme Council, the tenth in the party list. > Let's actually go back in history. Let's talk about why we are here gathered. How did the idea to copy Spectrum, Spectrum and why? UD> The fact is that even then was in the air demand in the computer such class, especially, was the need to develop something with the graphics. > Home computer. UD> None. There were no such thing as a home computer. Just a computer, who would have had a good schedule. It is time. Incidentally, I have to date surprise and delight at how originally coined the screen (the screen memory / Auth. /) In the Spectrum! It was necessary to make this a computer with enough software, particularly games, and that they are available. This two. What was third? I guess that if IBM'koy began to engage in Kiev. And she was very cumbersome and expensive. Therefore, there was the question of how to do something compact, convenient, cheap and reliable at the same time. Then the drive was not normal. The only thing that has appeared - the machine SM 1800 with an 8-inch floppy drive, they constantly had to klatsat, and it was a pandora ... Using the same in the recorder was quite comfortable. Spectrum is not created as a home computer or a computer for gaming. It was created as a system design for development and debugging programs on the 580-m processor. > So you have a firm Spectrum ... UD> There was a Eugene, somewhere, he had contact. Someone from the foreign students brought Spectrum brand here in the bureau. This Eugene contact with Natoptoy Evgeny, who, seeing this computer asked Eugene to take him home to play ... We undertake to work 99-st oscilloscope, drag it back and just go through on all legs, sketching waveforms This ULA'shki. In addition, we had information on the structure of the software: just one leaf has been used up. We also considered information from the ROM of your computer. And start working. Eugene E. Natopta engaged in software, and I am still young, then a specialist - specifically iron. Own development. By ostsilogrammam restored scheme. > How? How long do you take? It is also difficult! UD> It was not long. Month maximum. > Right, all possible inputs and their corresponding options on the output and just over a month!? UD> Yes, yes, yes, a month! But we worked! We worked well: in the morning you come at nine, and to eleven, yet drove the guard and Saturday and Sunday. That was Work! Incidentally, an interesting if we had approach to the synthesis scheme: we did not draw scheme - we payali. And the whole scheme is always was in my head. Already, she has earned, so you are to her and did not return, most importantly, to work. It was hard this routine do - draw a diagram. > Actually the idea originated with Spectrum just because you had a Spectrum? Was to Atari, it would work on it? Or not? UD> We must remember, was it then Atari. Most likely not happen, or was unavailable in Lviv. Sinclair is also interesting that He was very compact and powerful enough for the time. By the way, rather amusing that the saddle program that earned on the Spectrum, was Jumping Jack (all laugh). > Classical program ... UD> It's so funny! Everything came looked, it was something! We watched it on such a small TV (shows size of the TV - a little more hands) which was on the computer, the computer - it was a board with soldered wires. Somewhere because she was gone. By the way, I did Spectrum did not have at home (laughs). EA> More interestingly, the history of the firm Sinclair did not begin with the computer. Sinclair became known that created the first pocket TV. Moreover, using tube with electrostatic deflection Beam company Telefunken, a special custom-made pipe. It was the 77 th year. Sinclair, as they say, to keep abreast of, and having accumulated a certain capital, turned to the development of computers. Developed the first its kopyutera - ZX80 (black and white version Spectrum 16K / auth. /), And he had the know-how due to the fact that the chip ULA, standing in it, never sold, it is nowhere was. And the problem was precisely to create analogue of this chip, and engaged in what Mr. Dobush. UD> It's only then you can have different excel, but we repeated the waveform one to one - they were afraid that the program can did not earn. We have had specific tie-in RAS'y and CAS'y. There was a whole system tricks that will allow all to do optimally. And we tried to withstand the maximum as it was in the original. It is only then people started to think: yes scheme and tried to do differently. In addition, we used the basic elements that we had in stock. For example, only six months on sale there were eight-registers IR22, IR23. Then they did not exist. Therefore, there are so many IR16. And that is typical, I tried to make a computer with the same consumption that and original. And it worked! > That's why the first Lviv Spectrum is like most, most close to the corporate 48-th Spectrum. UD> Yes. I remember there was a 176 series, for Dumb schema fragments task was to not only to implement but also to optimize. Nekotrye were with twisted! I remember doing a counter on 176IR2, so there it was so twisted that I sometimes wonder how I came up with the way everything done. > Another such question, Yuri D.. Still, the first real domestic Spectrum - Lviv option? This is definitely? UD> Sure. Together with us was only Kaunas. But Kaunas late with the development, although the first version had started to work. Natopta in contact with them and koekakie sketches were of them, there were also their achievements. It was a Parallel work, but they could not synthesize the whole scheme. We gave them our circuitry and then they were able to finish the job. > They later synthesized, but earlier ready-made car? UD> Yes. They were elaboration, somewhere pulled some pieces on the program structure, where some memory is available. I remember memory cards were imported from Kaunas. This enabled us to work faster. And then we brought them to their circuitry. Then came the Leningrad, Novosibirsk ... > Yes, you may be aware, as appeared in Leningrad option? Now a lot of talk about it. EA> Oleg had brought in Peter. > Too evil (laugh). UD> I remember that he was on PAL'ah for pT1-x. > This is the "Baltic." EA> on firmware. UD> on firmware. I was surprised, I thought, what a fool did. Raise this PAL, which is heated, it is not known that when there was no need for this: PAL though repeating the same thing, but cheaper does not succeed. > And if you take the "Leningrad" option it is, in principle, does not repeat the Lions. There is a combined field of memory, and in "Lviv" version RU5, RU6 - separate memory field, they work at different speeds, and there - just stand RU5. UD> Just when it became clear that their can be combined. We do not yet know whether do it. > That is, they have improved the scheme? EA> Yes, but already having a working computer on the local elements ... In addition, they also simplified and therefore reduced the price chart (Avt.) UD> Yes, because the former was only RU6-mi, and a place where you can deliver additionally RU5. > 16 kb? EA> Yes, 16 kilobytes. > And yet it is interesting that the Moscow version of the 48K, about which too much is mentioned in different literature, from the "Lviv option" _nu, no otlichaetsya_! UD> He went through for our customers. EA> It's taken away our customers' komandirovschiki. > The most annoying that the "Lviv variant" _nigde not upominaetsya_! Do not people know about it outside of Lviv! UD> Maybe it specific to our organization. Because we have done and gone further. EA> crossed and walked away. In addition, we have a secret enterprise, which in While it was impossible to "shine". UD> The next thing we did, and what nobody knows, too: we first made a "full" IBM'ku. I then immediately spread to her. Developers were the first people of Kiev. But, characteristically, we then completely proemulirovali hard drive on the SM-3. > Can you imagine what the speed was there. UD> It was not too fast. On all IBM also started with 16 kilobytes. She was More on CP / M 80, it is not even IBM'ka was. > Return all the same to the Spectrum. And how then was the case with software? Whence it was taken? How do I copy? >> < EA> copy directly from the tape-recorded. UD> Then copy the program have already appeared, in two years, someone started to write these programs. I personally this is not engaged. We then raised the question as make a device for copying. But there already was a question of belt speed. First copy of normal, then the second, third: all worse and worse. We are literally half a year this pampered and forget altogether, as it always the case. In addition, there were problems to work - we are for it, to put it mildly, not praised. > And, of course - the bosses! UD> Not directly to our bosses and bodies. > Even so? (Laughing) That can not be Then copy? UD> No, actually it was impossible then something do. EA> The main thing we were of regime organization. So, maybe, for us nothing never heard of. "A general program were taken from? Probably, they were very little? EA> mainly from Poland. UD> Very few programs have been. I remember them could still collect - two, three, four ... I remember, was about five or ten cartridges in two years. Ktati, as well as and IBM'ke once collected all applets, which only have been - all housed in one box, pyatidyuymovki, 360 kilobyte (laughs). EA> What's interesting, when they created this layout, immediately found enthusiastic, such Starostenko as Oleg, who worked in the same group. He took it all embody the "metal" - printed circuit boards and other, other. UD> First of all, his task was on these hanging and protruding from maketnitsy postings to reproduce the concept, divorce fees, etc. He has six months working on it (laughs). EA> When Oleg has made printed circuit board, it appeared to her appearance and the first computer. > In what year was it? EA> It was the 84-85 year. And the first version of this and he also has taken to Moscow for its customers. > He was then taken to Moscow and the scheme? EA> He had friends in Moscow and Leningrad, it is likely that he got there and pulled it. > I understand that Moscow is stupid "Sderli" scheme ... UD> Yes. > And in Leningrad is not stripped, and took just an idea? EA> It is important that already had a working computer, and it inspires confidence that all go. But when the chips were placed first, then they do not pass specifications. It was also a kind of risk. > Yes! They said that domestic RU5-e should not have been there to work. EA> Absolutely! UD> So they never worked. Well RU6-e then started to work, and RU5-e I remember that they work. > And what was the problem? UD> Well, seems to work, but fails. Fails. For the reason, Ms. SM1800-e poyastoyanno sboili constantly broke. Our chips can not do anything normal was, especially memory. It was a disaster. I still remember, we have such a thick power bus capacitors and put on top to hang - it's terrible. I'm somewhere else these boards are. What is characteristic of our "memory" of what was inside capacitors are, and during regeneration, while the fronts, due to their charge, it is very strongly consuming, and there are "ringing" were ... What we just did not: and multilayered, and interchange as soon as any set, even firms then recommend how to plant matrix, as conduits to let. The worst that our capacitors have a large inductance of the findings and they are not filtering were good. With this we have encountered already in IBM'ke when RU3-made to their memory. > Well, thank you for this interesting interview. UD> Thank you. Well, well, the interview really got a very interesting and informative. Now I think no one should have no doubt that the first domestic Spectrum was specifically "Lviv" option, rather than, say, "Moscow 1948" or any other machine separate field of memory, which "... the most complete copy of the original architecture and the ideology of the Spectrum ..." (ZX-Review, N1 for the year 1991, p. 15). Actually they are the most complete, and the same "Moscow 1948" just one to one, copy the "Lviv" option. Yes, what about machines with two rulers of memory, even if on the concept of "Pentagon" many chips have the same serial number as in similar chains "Lviv" option! It can not be mere coincidence. I believe that the key role the city of Lviv and "Lviv" option in the development of Spectrum movement in the Soviet Union proved once and for all. This material, we wanted to restore the historical justice with respect to "Lviv" variant of the elementary existence of which so long kept silent the whole Spectrum Press, and wanted to tell the true story of birth sinklerizma in the Soviet Union. Reprints of this material in other publications is welcome - ZX-country should know their history, as well as the names of people who did this story. In conclusion, we want to once again thank Edward A. for organizing this important meeting and also thank Andrew Stegnitskogo for providing technical support.
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