ZX Time #05
14 декабря 2001
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Mail - readers' letters: Alexander Fisun, Nuts, DJ Hooligan, Vir ExCite / Myth Corp.

<b>Mail</b> - readers' letters: Alexander Fisun, Nuts, DJ
Hooligan, Vir ExCite / Myth Corp.
Mail


                Surveyed Denis Tokarchuk


  Today, as promised, will be considered as a response to the 
third and at number four ... Well. Let's go!



  That's what Alexander wrote Fisun.


  AF: "I recently read your new
newspaper! No he could not understand why such a small font. 
Then, when I read article, I realized - for a good memory.


  Well what can we say about this newspaper?
In my opinion, good design, volume
newspapers, too, what we need. Vobschem me
Newspaper liked.

  But I still propose to introduce into it such
headings, which would be considered
iron and a variety of new items, both in terms of
Hardy, and software. Category in which
discussed the plans for the establishment of a softiny, or 
something wrong game. 

  But this proposal and wishes: keep doing what you are doing. 
Thank you you for the new newspaper. "



  DWT: Thanks for the suggestions. On suggestions:). The fact 
that the authors kakihlibo projects prefer to remain silent 
about that they are preparing for the draft, did not even speak 
about the genre! Apparently, people have superstitious ...



  The following letter came from Oleg Cherednichenko (Vir 
ExCite / Myth Corp). 


  RON: "You privetstvyet Dnepropetrovsk
gryppa Myth Corp. and I personally - Vir
ExCite. In recent years, widely
ykorenyaetsya view that, say,
Spektrym ymer - / A ~ echo times and
People ~ ZX.SPECTRUM byystvyyut nostalgiryyuschie 
emylyatorschiki playing in ZXigry on your favorite PC ... 


  And so enjoyable after a separation
from spektrymnoy life yvidet horoshyyu gazety, and yes even 
ykrainskyyu! 


  The second issue of ZX-Time has an article about
multitasking at Speke .. Hochy to announce that our gryppa 
developed OS cooperative multitasking, even with

multiple windows. In this system really poyuzat many good global
ideas. In addition to this, laid down some
prerequisites for perspektivy ~ ~ - posledyyuschego for 
development ... " 


  System dokymentatsiya and a few small programs in their time 
were put into ZX.SPECTRUM. Alas and yvy - vvidy weak reaction 
of the public project MythOS now frozen.



  But at least for myself, we have learned from the project 
polzy MythOS, have revised their views on osestroenie, gained 
valuable experience ... " 


  DWT: I heard something about this OS, but
myself, to my shame, never saw her again. However, the cause of 
its failure, in my opinion, lies in the weak "promotion".

After all, was not written about it in any
newspaper or magazine ...


  RON: "Personally, I have also developed a pilot for the 
spectrum of YAP working title Coloss \ U. Language

zadymyvalsya as part mashinnonezavisimy. Advantages: modylnost, 
the highest efficiency, using the native language (as long as 
the assembler and Forth). The relics will add yazyky modern 
ideas: invariance contexts. There are some outlines of the 
implementation of object-oriented ... " 


  DWT: Still, no one I am infected by such
ideas. Hurray:)


  RON: "There is a print publication - beloryssky zhyrnal ~ 
Radiomir. Your Computer ~ (formerly known as

Radioamateur). Was once more than half
zhyrnala was devoted to eight-
platforms, and most of all - ZX! So
Here ... They have now more than ever with tygo
good articles. Our gryppa sotrydnichaet with the editors, but 
would like to turn the pages of ZX-Time: Gentlemen

coders! Help with the materials! E-mail
zhyrnala "Radiomir" - <rl@radiopage.by>. "


  DWT: People! Help the magazine!


  RON: A ZX-Time - pylit "Very, very
remarkable in that it has information
and for coders (generally a rarity in newspapers). Elegant 
myzaki. Disadvantages - fine print (might be worth still make 
51 symbol / page?) and the inability to vygryzit of shell text 
articles file (it is - a big disadvantage.

I appeal to your conscience: ny as
I otgryzit ponravivshyyusya article to print it? After all, it 
is not even in the ASCII :-().


  We wish you continued creative yspehov in this project and 
drygih =) "



  DWT: Thank you very much for your letter!


  The following letter came from Maxim Letts (Maxony). Piece of 
writing devoted to OS published in the "Discussion" and

part - here.


  LM: "What can I say about the ZX-Time # 4 ...
Polozhitelnye tendentsii uzhe Apartment belongs, in the
pervyh bolee menee convenient interfeys,
music is decent, normal font, so
only with the letter e kakie a problemy, you
ee that b putem invertirovaniya
delaete? But This is not a so important. It is important
that dela luchshe gone ... "


  DWT: Well, thanks for the "positive developments". We used to 
have it bad? AND Music Khrenova been? ..



  LM: "And with the post you are turned down (to schet
deneg). It's much wrong with zhe-mail
ineta pump to the amount given for
This can be called Bulo dengami. If
take srednestatistichesky obem box in
2 mega sredney with a pumping speed
1.5-2.7 kb in sekundu these samye 2 metra
siphoned off for 12.20 minutes, which in its
ochered 70-28 kopeek sootvetstvenno. A
unlikely Stokoe mail was, says
Statistics from srednego yuzera box clogged
bolee chetverti (in nashem primere) byvaet DO NOT ... "


  DWT: I'll tell what costs
Internet to us. The road to Gorlovka (or
Center Yenakievo) at one end - 0.75 UAH.
per person, one hour in the I-nete - from 3 to
5 UAH. (Usually 4.50 UAH per hour) plus
way back. Total: 0.75 +0.75 +4.50 =
6 hryvnia. Still worth considering that the time
free us quite a bit - basically, to "visit the Internet," we 
are spending the weekend, but very few of them ... Here this 
arithmetic: (. 


  LM :"... Well, just DO NOT like it when the finger vysosanye 
excuses ... " 


  DWT: Hmm ...


  LM: "In the rest of vsem vpechatlenie DO NOT
plohoe, krome fact that gazeta bez
protsedury usr randomize usr 15616 0 runs dalshe intro DO NOT 
hochet. Well this is I understand because of the steep vashego 
ROM ... " 


  DWT: Shaw? Again?


  LM: "Well, voobsche vpechatlenie horoshoe,
raduet that Apartment belongs esche people delo delayuschee,
DO NOT just a word gromkie govoryaschie.
Hotelos would make my opus was published, Lo must zhe people 
know moe mnenie and inache zachem teksta was so much batter. 
Yes esche intruha you klevaya. Zhelayu to rate DO NOT menyali, 
and worked, and dalee. Waiting for the new nomera!



  DWT: Sure it up! Read the "Discussion" ...


  The following letter came from Nuts'a ...


  N: "Yes, the newspaper was full of trite: (
Listalka seemed awfully fast
because they ran under Shalaev (scroll
32LDI - as I understood, but pechatalka what?). Design - is 
also quite trivial and important - too bright: not focus 
attention on the text, and slides on bright frame (that is the 
color of it, say, blue ought to do). And if the new

engine is the color, sprites and other
pleasures of life (you can write in
ACEditor'e compile and how to please - the encoding is sent to 
me:) And so - very much like a ZX-(again

same ZX) Pilot, which seems to have long slept ....


  The content of course there is still some novelty: at least 
the same argument about which operating system worth it. But 
the review of software results in a banal: that's such a thing 
razrulezneshaya. Straight all the cool ... A Th it tough -

not reported:) By the way, the release date
Trouble is possible to behold the next in the first
its sector, the balance after the BASIC ... "


  DWT: Why is "banal"? Damn, the reader just can not understand 
... One Like the newspaper in 62-s characters with 
shestibitovoy encoding, and another - 42 characters with the 
usual ASCII! May issue two ZXTime?:)



  N: "On account Osov: repeat - keep your eyes peeled
Traubl - as an example of a real system. A
voobshe OS people need - as DOS.
Winds from ISDOS been written and
PinkFloid and ending VCRP Windows (in November 2001 came to the 
web!). And most authors want windows, and the arrow Icons - a 
list of such casks - names 10. Plus console 04.03 system. Some 
of these systems claim to have serious technology: memory 
allocation, kernel driver. Zakochennostyu have very few: in the 
sense so that its AFM was (2-3), or at least

large set of programs (or at least adapted) (XDOS) - upon which 
the author understands the uselessness of (his work ignore - 
every interested wrote his VasyaPypkinOS, not interested - the 
maximum blame foreign) and dumps by Windu. Vobschem it's a long 
story ... " 


  DWT: That's why I and all razvozhu
this fuss! We must first decide what
necessary, and then translate it into reality!


  N: "To write on spec - only AFM, any other - will not work 
psychologically and Latency to work ... "



  DWT: say nothing:).


  N: "Hmm ... Actually, a pancake should be less talk, and at 
least occasionally to do something pens - at least once a 
month. Moreover, a major project on Speke now not to raise: one 
person fails, more than one - not converge in the ideas and 
opinions (it's OS particularly the case). And the hardware 
capabilities of simple spectrum still have not been used: in 
our town (Rumored) one of my friends wrote in

time multi-tasking OSes (have not seen, but according to 
rumors) in It was formatted disk and at the same engineer was 
played. And he was a programmer although steep (3D to Speke, 
and the LABAJO in C + + written (according to rumors:) doom 
engine - that came running polinstituta smotret_) but painfully 
pedantic (all of it should be done by standard procedures 
PZUshnymi, frames of windows DRAWami - that he on PCs and 
dumped) and not an artist (The design was slop). But wrote 
again, especially not talking (or especially:). "



  DWT: Well, where is this system?


  N: "On the bill: Target # 9 - I have yet seen the second
number. Compared with him, and all other
the press is extremely original and custom shell to tomuzhe 
hypertext. Here I have long been this: if you look a couple of 
publications take the wrapper of a newspaper (Target9) and

take the materials of another newspaper (say,
ZXTime) and combine - that it will be
rulnaya press! So in fact even if someone
reunify: (


  Pro: Decruncher was emulyatorschikom, yes to tomuzhe from the 
region, but not out the lowest: (In addition, he was mistaken:

Last Spectrum Navigator version is not 1.33 and 1.13 - the 
author himself has confirmed. " 


  DWT: Thanks for the info.


  N: "On zhelezyachnyh Extensions: Do not
mean? And the MP3 Speke who wants to listen? A HIColor'nuyu who 
watch porn wants? In INET svezhak rock and letters

write (on paper to write something too lazy) who
wants? Here are bought by people navorochnny
PC hardware ....:( why buy that
in Speke this will never happen. Will not be because people in 
Speke to create Themselves, for the soul, because they're 
interested. And for other people to do - nothing good can be 
obtained. 


  Damn, what nabredil ... But perepavlyat
I will not ... The idea - no one
increase does not force, the expansion is done for fun, not for 
the sake of progress! .. " 


  DWT: Interesting opinion.


  N: "And voosche conclusion of this I have now:
realschiki only breeds like bazaars
able, but emulyatorschikov rude because
them envious:) At least all the rabid
Spekovschiki-realschiki whom I knew personally was piled up on 
the PC (and thus extrim Makarov - PC either at work or a gift), 
while they are screaming all sorts of Speck rulezy. 


  My real Pentagon now stands at
TIME KEEPERa who like this makarom
HRC piled on the sly, while in parallel it is your Speccy 
asleep and took my for "dopisaniya" demos (nedodelanoy them and

the same "fierce" spekovschikom ORGANISMS
on TSTS01 - propyanstvovali and proPTsshevstvovali)


  But somehow I'm second year under emulsion
(Except for Real Madrid - when he was: (and still
I write for the spectrum, get in touch with Spkekovschikami
- SPECA in life is shorter. This is despite the fact that at 
the current time I have on the table there are two (2) 
P166/24mb, and Each zvukovuha and vidyuhi, plus one

mouse, a modem and a monitor. Before
(1998) are other PCs. And in the plans - the purchase of 
various PTsshnogo iron. Because I am now no one will do, not 
sell feature-rich iron-Spec, and laughed at and

call bad words only. And he
I though a little apparatchik, but unwilling
dig something old iron, which I have, but I want to program, 
including including for new hardware, but not

poking around in stupidly made the case,
melting soldering iron all around - it's all
useless and worthless routine, rather than
creativity and discovery is not new, although
anything new at Speke is less and
less: (Only new PTsshnye emulators
that require a new PTsshnogo iron: (
However mennee write about Speck, a pancake. And HRC
use, primarily for study and work with the spec - at the HRC 
made All my major works (not all of them,

however, are well known: (and this is not the most
unpretentious work ... "


  Well, who among us now Spektrumschik?
I, who write only in the emulsion is about
What I know - that is, the coding, or such
Here's the real realschiki who dream to buy a PC and played 
there until opupeniya. Coder, engaged ASMom for their own 
entertainment on the PC is nothing particularly not attractive: 
only iron, which can be adjusted without soldering yes all 
sorts of pictures and Mouzon. A write chtoto, knowing that the 
compiler is your idea of ​​a thin distort and nagruzet sorts 
DLLkami and dampen brake kernalyami - not rolls. By tomuzhe all 
for all is already written - work was simply lost in the mass 
of faceless unique ... "



  DWT: Nuts, you say so, if all
realschiki - hypocritical bastards who
only dream of a powerful PC at home. Although myself and know 
that you write nonsense and insults all spektrumistov that

"Pospektrumistee" you, at least for
fact that they have a home Speck. I do not have the HRC
and lack of special I do not feel it. A
if he will ever be, it does
will not be able to shift from the table, my Pentagon.

  And anyway - spektrumist - is the one
who ever is doing something for the benefit of the Spectrum! 
Even if he cries "Speccy rulez!" and nothing else does - he 
spektrumist! 


  N: "Damn, writing these words is harmful.
The more I criticize HRC, etc., so
less time I spend coding,
himself becoming like those who abused .... Such is the 
quagmire - this PC ... 


  Well, something came over me. Nabredil
a lot. Please do not publish all too -
only quote :)..."


  DWT: With joy did not comply with a request
Nuts'a and publish the entire letter.


  The following letter came from DJ
Hooligan'a - our regular readers.


  DJH: "I want to say thanks for the interesting content. 
Especially a lot of it was different surveys. And 
Internet-sites, and Spectrum Press, and the new software.

Keep it up!


  Only now have to "wrap" corresponded to the content. No 
offense will be said, but updated a little shell

differs from what has already happened. On
my opinion, the best span of DonNews.
Must be immediate transition to the desired article and mouse 
support ... " 


  DWT: Will all this and more. But
later.:)


  DJH: "So, improve, and if
periodicity of the newspaper will not
"Float", the "ZX-TIME" has every chance
to win the 1st place among the emerging now Spectrum newspaper. 
" 


  DWT: Thank you.


  That's all today's review letters.
By the way, the section "Mail" came the largest section of the 
newspaper (by volume). 


                 *





Other articles:

From the Editor - a new shell.

Coder - scroller on the curb.

Mail - readers' letters: Alexander Fisun, Nuts, DJ Hooligan, Vir ExCite / Myth Corp.

Discussion - Multi-tasking and operating systems.

News and age - local news.

Review novya - Real Commander v2.1, Trouble v0.243, Nicron 122, Earth Shaker, Global Tracker v1.1, Body # 30, Insanity # 10.

PC and Spectrum - a comparison Spectrum emulator: Unreal Speccy VS Z80 Stealth Emulator

about everything about everything - The secret origin of Homo Sapiens.

and laughter, and a sin - fun with college partners.

Advertising - advertising and announcements.


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