Spectrofon #15 04 октября 1995

Profi     Железо

From the world of bat - Answer company representative CONDOR (developer of computer Profi) on the readers' letters, as well as the continuation of the theme "How to write MEGADEMO.

        From the world of bat



   Today we hold beyond
this section, a forum of our esteemed readers and discuss two 
topics raised in the last issue magazine. In the next issue of 
the section "From the world of bat" will be entirely devoted to 
letters. 


   And now something about us
"Condor," a well-known users to develop computer
"PROFI". Word of our permanent correspondent - Kirill Gromov.



   RESPONSE TO LETTER READERS

   IN THE "From the world of a bat"

    PUBLISHED IN THE "S" N14


   To begin with, that, unfortunately, in the firm "CONDOR" do 
not read Journal "SPECTROFON", moreover,

it does not run anything
"Spectrum". All the work
associated with the regime "SPECTRUM"
I'm basically, I provide
invaluable assistance to the firm's chief designer Mikhail
Khokhlov. All the information on
"SPECTRUM" goes to the firm through
your humble servant, so
I have the right to assume the need to respond to points raised 
in the journal issues.




   With regard to CP / M, here
working principle of "do not like -
do not use, benefit or who do not
takes the opportunity to work in
system IS-DOS, or shipping silly "demy" in TR-DOS. But I want to
say that almost all of its
I am preparing a text editor
"WRITE SYSTEM 3.0", which in addition to a convenient and 
beautiful interface itself is very powerful tool. Besides, I do 
not understand words such as: "... and let's cast CP / M, but 
the rich resources use will be! ". Maybe

this is just my opinion, but I think
that a good program should
be as "system-independent." Want an example - please: HONEY 
COMMANDER on the "ATM TURBO ".




   For its time, a very powerful program, plus works
equally well on any
computer, plug in their reserves, depending on the available 
hardware. By the way, is not each computer can boast 
Professional operating system, plus high-level languages, such 
as TURBO PASCAL, C, ADA, etc. such prominent firms as BORLAND,

MICROSOFT, AZTEC, which obviously do not need advertising.


   Here, for example, to write
student course work at
PASCAL or C, and in his presence PROFI. What do you think would 
it be shipped strannootdisketirovannuyu version HISOFT PASCAL 
4TM? Or, for example, writing a compiler for HISOFT C? 

It should also say that the program complex mathematics are 
unlikely someone will write in

ASSEMBLER, if possible
to work on than these, FORTRAN, LISP, KOBOL, PL1 and
etc. In short, for each task -
your toolbox
funds, and the more of them - the
better.


   That there is an abundance of powerful
programs under the "PROFI", hardly
wine company. They created a computer - the owners should do.
So it was everywhere, it is the law of development. Then 
another phrase :"... here for the "Scorpion" is already 
written.. "Write, write!" Somewhere we have already heard. 
Let's admit it honestly - "Scorpio" inflated. On

Today, the "Scorpion" far better "PROFI".

And with the compatibility it has not
helluva lot (obviously not 99%, due to the port # 7FFD), and 
the periphery where less, and the system connector is already

long time no surprise, and as
always: if you want the Turbo mode -
pay money, but we seldom dorozhechki, leaving peremychechki.
If we are to cut and throw, then from
PROFI can (and should!) To 99% compatible computer.
But most importantly: a solemn
closure of the scheme "Scorpion" by
users! Generally speaking, people in the know can easily "split"
scheme "Scorpio", the benefit of personal
supernatural is not there. A little question: here already for 
a year "Lick" scheme "Scorpion"

And how could not "lick"
Normal port # FF, port # 7FFD
(As in the corporate SPECCY), TURBO
Turbo mode and the SH?

As a result, we conclude:
but the "shadow" service monitor, the "Scorpion" has no such 
advantages that would allow him to Moscow and the regions' 
pinch and throw "" PROFI ". 


   As for writing drivers in the IS-DOS for PROFI, give 
comments on the topic of the collective of "Condor": 

   "Yes, people come to us from
"ISKRA-SOFT" and offered for
money to write a driver that uses the periphery
"PROFI". An important point: there will be
secret that the IS-DOS is
some competition to CP / M. Then it turns a strange thing,
like this: let us write (a
their system, I mean me ...)
driver, and you (under the natural
outflow of potential users of the CP / M) will pay us money.
Naturally with such layouts
cooperation has not happened.
While written Dmitry, who wrote the driver HDD under CP / M, 
ready to write it, and under the IS-DOS, if he will be given

(Free of charge, I suppose ...
ca. my) Relevant information on IS-DOS. "


   As you can comment
note that if
"ISKRA-SOFT" would have written the necessary
driver, it would have received their
profit indirectly through
users "PROFI" working
in IS-DOS. It is far better than
write drivers for the mythical
ZX-NEXT. Position of "Condor"
I have outlined - the word for "ISKRASOFT".



   Now we want to apply to
"Shadow" the company is "Condor". The main trouble "Condor" -
inability and sometimes unwillingness
work with users. Quality of service often depends on the mood 
of the duty officer of the company. Although, for example, 
Mikhail Khokhlov, not only in detail advise on the required 
topic and loads of useful human

information so that he
will "digest" it is not one
day. It would have helped the book
Type "USER profiles", but
any money to publish it? Although
there is a way: the book on diskette. I
I think the Editor
"SPECTROFON" no reason explains,
how quickly it becomes popular. Then users do not
would be annoyed at times arhiglupymi
issues already employed
employees.

   Returning to the words in the letter
about topics for reflection
for the "Condor" I note that the theme
for thought in "Condor"
really is, but it is not
theme of "how we samopohoronitsya"
and the theme of "how we do in the future PROFI even better!".


   Ah, remember! Somehow I
told a story about the user, who asked in a "slot"
how to open a RAM disk on a 1Mgb
PROFI. He or she would have caused such a
snowstorm, which is difficult to convey
normal words, even pity
I have not heard ee. But the user was an intelligent man, and
his honest question: "And you know how to do this?" he
honestly answered: "No!". Although
all-but had to overcome
button ON / OFF, and load
IS-DOS mode by SINCLAIR 128.

   I hasten to well fix itself
themselves, "S" N14: "fifth" version
PROFI not byaka! It showed up such reserves! Owners, please be 
patient and wait until October / November, you will not regret!



   I will be glad to participate and
answer any questions in the discussions on the topic PROFI.


  "Members PROFI all countries
and the world! Boldly stand in the ranks of our PROFsoyuza!

               Kirill Gromov

         (C) CHUNG SOFTWARE in FFC

             28.08.1995 MOSCOW


   The Complete Works,
Volume 10 page 500, article "How
U.S., SINKLERISTAM NOT OKROTOVITSYA. "
(That you understand, of course, a joke!)
"S": Actually, we have long
offered by Condor "," slots "and other interested
individuals and organizations to use the pages of our magazine
discussion of the issues raised and
promote their ideas for advertising its prooduktsii finally.
But, unfortunately, the possibilities
electronic edition of our colleagues are not appreciated.
Now, once again raises questions
how to convey to the user information about their products. And 
again we invite you to a dialogue of all who care issue 
eight-Spectrum-compatible machines. Expect from you interesting 
articles about their product suggestions.




   Now we move on to another
topic that was raised in
previous issue
letter of response of our regular readers Sim Oleg on parody of 
"How to write MEGADEMO" ("S" N11).



   Discussion resulted in a parody
little discussion on what might be called about
as follows: "The campaign for clean Games."
The idea was that some of
Stepanov is certain today's hackers, many illiterate "intro" to 
the original games, find out the relationship in running these 
lines most 'intro', using obscene language, etc. More

details, see "S" N14.



   While there is no wording in letters
responses to that post, but
Recently we came across the Moscow electronic newspaper
"ON-LINE", one of the headings which published an 
article-response in discussed in our journal

theme. We read with interest
this article and decided that the issues raised in it issues 
require further discussion. Especially, We suspect that, as it 
turned out that we do not print letters reflecting different 
from editorial point of view. But about

this later, but now we would like
would be completely (to avoid accusations of bias) result
article from the El. newspaper "ON LINE".
Style and spelling retained.



      Hacker - are people too!

Note: I have nothing against e-zine
"SPECTROFON" and I must say
that he was the only publication
on the Spectrum in our country,
which is worth paying attention to. And praise them for it, and 
respect. But with all due respect to the magazine editor, I 
fundamentally do not agree with their point of view

matter, which strongly, with an enviable constancy,
promoted by them. And according to this
Read ...


   Everyone has already got used a few
to the constant "attack" electronic journal "SPECTROFON" on
Hacker. The absence of a coherent argument of their claims, and
most importantly, good nature of most
Hacker, allowing them to ignore such statements. In addition, 
there was no Alternate edition (there are

suspicion that the letter in defense
Hacker simply ignored
edited, it's hard to believe that
of such letters was not at all).
But here came the 14 th issue of the journal,
where it came to the point of absurdity, and patience snapped. 
Can not say that the publication of this

the article was the main reason
a newspaper, but I can not claim, and the fact that such
perspective is not supported me
In its decision ... But let's start
order. The first issue was
really cheer me up statement:


  "By downloading the game, the user
faced with such a gentle but
very intrusive question for:
"INFINITE LIFE ?"... Yielded
temptation, you plunge into this
game and an hour and sometimes
faster, pass it to the end and
more to it will never come back. "


   Well, dear user, poroytes in their own diskettes. Everyone 
can find a lot of "Shooter" with "INFINIT-s" and

only a few without them (and then,
only by the fact that Hacker
hands before them not reached). Usually,
When a normal person faced with the game, remade with
gaming machine, type "kill-them-all", and its passage
You can choose from three attempts,
the result is known in advance ...
Just in time for such games then
more and not come back! Indeed, in
the same slot machines
You are invited to select a specified number of CREDITS, 
leaving a certain number of tokens, and sometimes add them in 
the game. In addition, the game type "DIZZY" and eternal life 
"for hour, and sometimes even faster, "could not even walk or 
to anyone. In the same issue "SPECTROFON" "foreseen" and 
counter-arguments from opponents (single letter NO One player 
no one has seen) 


   "Typically, two of them: you do not want eternal life - 
choose normal and the second argument -

people with a low rate of reaction is sometimes very difficult 
to pass the game is almost impossible. By

Regarding the first argument, we actually had already said they 
would not ought to tempt people

offering a descent lightweight version of the game. The second 
argument we also not convinced: people with normal reaction 
sometimes can not take some delicious

shooter or successfully complete
car racing, but it is still
no reason to cripple the program. "


   And rises before the eyes
image of the unfortunate player: tousled hair, bulging eyes, 
trembling hands, he tries to reach the keys "N", and the eyes 
are key to the "Y", and holds it in such a state

most of his life, and not sleeping
nights, and wasted seven nerve
cries in his sleep, "I do not want u have to live forever, I do 
not want-at !!!", and this time some

Hacker sits behind the machine and with a satisfied grin, "Oh, 
I'll arrange you "eternal paradise" life! "

break another "begalku" ...
Gentlemen editors e
magazine "SPECTROFON": if you
and pulls to press the wrong key, you'd like, maybe it's worth
think about changing their business??
With regard to "disprove" the second argument ... "People can 
not, but it's not the reason." It seems to me that "it" is just 
an excuse. If even the players with a normal reaction "can 
not", then This game by itself without the "CHEAT

MODE "ugly.


   There were many other equally
"Interesting" observations and recommendations "Hacker, but it
small compared to the 14th issue of the magazine:


   Sim OLEG (Volgograd), shared his thoughts about 
rastranzhirovaniya Hacker disk space by connecting

to a game downloaders
"INTRODUCTIONS" (actually translates as "entry") with
Regards, Hacker names, publisher of this release, etc. AND
"Expensive edition" of its hot
supported. And so what we've got
with the "disk space": each new issue of the journal
"SPECTROFON", starting with the 7-th,
takes up almost an entire disk,
because of the persistent reluctance of editors prodelyvat 
'dirty work Hacker "- compress their

creation. As a result, we have 14
CDs filled magazine
instead of 4-5. Same story with
"Star Heritage" ...


   Now about the "Introduction" and
more precisely, about HAKKERSKIH RIGHTS (who
translated into English - ozolochu). To get started: Who is 
Hacker? 


1. Programmer capable of writing
program without prior
development of detailed specifications and promptly make 
corrections to running programs, not relevant documentation.

2. User of a computer network, discovers illegal ways to gain 
access to protected data. 

                 ENGLISH-RUSSIAN

                      DICTIONARY

                    OF COMPUTERS

                 AND PROGRAMMING


   Yes, on the second definition about any right to speak
is not necessary. It sounds menacing, even though only means
deprotection (and do not have to fart
for the withdrawal
MICROPROTECTORa, protection should steepen), in particular with 
tape loaders to adapt programs on the disc. Now let's talk 
about the definition of number one. Dear Oleg, if you got a 
tape copy of the game (there are are people too, Hacker 
involved delivery from abroad new games, such as firm

"OUTLAND"), adapt it to
work with the drive, restored after the "hackers" (there are 
such people), removed the "glitches", missed by the authors 
themselves (sometimes quite often), maybe even

translated the game into Russian
was it "and from" and wrote
HELP, organized the 128th mode
(If no brand), and finally spent a lot of time and nerves, and 
then decided to free or for pennies to pay her

raspostranitelyam, so, if
Would you tried to do the whole
this work, I would look,
how many sectors you will not regret
would "INTRODUCTION", which is comparable in quality work done 
by you, and how many kilobytes text you would have spent on a hi

all those who helped you and those who
During this time made no less remarkable things, as well as
thoughts that crowded your head (no offense). With regard to
inscriptions, caused from Oleg Sim
so nostalgic, "CRACKED BY
BILL GILBERT "," DISKED BY ANDY
CHERNIKOV "and such, then surely
these people were doing at the time, then,
that the only one merited
lines: BILL GILBERT it broke the game (I've never seen one
game that went through his hands and
requiring no reconstruction), and
ANDY CHERNIKOV only diskoval
games, not by resuscitating them (because these programs have 
visited already have BG) and not paying attention to the 
absence of several levels. Hacker HAS THE RIGHT TO

own Copyright, making
good job. If you gentlemen users "of such a service does not 
need to" try to arrange an alternative if you can come up with 
better. Experience "SPECTROFON" is not convincing:

most of the programs included in
application must be taken seriously
repair, rather than "format
CD 40 tracks and one
side "... what Marasmus.


   Surprised me too "valuable
Thought Editor of the feasibility of proliferation at
software market different versions of
the same game. Excuse me, but even beer Zhigulevskoe "(or, if 
you like - a yogurt, a), issued in g.Klinske differs greatly 
from the same "Zhiguli" brewed in Moscow, even then

other inferior "Baltika" (here
Hacker who do not need). Savvy to what I have it?


   With such an attitude to the magazine
Hacker is not surprising that they
more than a year can not get from
Kladova any of its versions
"ELITE".


   Still a fan of "SPECTROFON", Hacker and Editor in Chief
computer paper "ON-LINE"
Dmitry Grigoryev (OLDMAN


    COMMENTARY EDITOR "S"



   As noted by our attentive
reader, the author published
above article started from afar - with
long ago completed the theme "infinizatsii" or, in another 
words, "Obessmerchivaniya" games. Then the note about 
"infinizirovannyh" games written in hot pursuit after the 
"nice" communication with obessmerchennoy "SAINT DRAGON".

Strictly speaking, the topic was
closed in the tenth issue of the journal
letter to our readers. In general
We all agreed that "infinizatsiya - a delicate matter to him
must be approached very cautiously. "In the discussion set
point.



   But now it appears that someone "broke the cup" (well
yet that is not overwhelmed by a roof), and Back to business
own. Quotes from "S", author of the article forgets that we are 
in of the discussion was mainly about

interesting games of the masterpieces, and
not a walk-through shooters, of which
Speccy at a dime a dozen (not available
view masterpieces such as "R-TYPE"). We
now do not want to reopen this topic. We can only say one thing
- If a hacker to insert "Infinite" in the program (note - in
someone else's program, but it is a violation of copyright) 
does not feels that the threshold shift

through which makes the game boring and uninteresting, upsets 
the balance games, then two-bit his skill. And we were

It is against this.


   You can be the coolest programmer, but do not understand
in games. In this case, this
people to better do the software programs and do not clog
head with "toys". On
worst, can be hard to multiply megademy - your self-esteem
will be satisfied with the whit
no less. Man, the past
game with the infinitive, never
can understand the enthusiasm play in the original version. As 
examples the same "SAINT DRAGON" and "X-OUT",

overflown through the first
or more times will never run, or "BATTLE COMMAND", which in the 
original rather simple.




         And on the following lines:

          "Infinit life? Y / N" we

           also already said it all.

            Maybe, of course,

             another player and not

             sleeps at night, ter
             zayas about you
             boron, but those who

             I knew that we had

            in mind when he wrote
           Does this have long been

          uses in his works, the principle of hot keys. Y
He also has a mode of "immortality", but done so wisely, 
cunning, with a twist. And whoever wants, of course know that

"If you click that and then some - to get something." So in this
If trade-butcher "Press
'Y' for infinit life! "Without a doubt lose the romantic:
"I LOVE CODEBUSTERS" (INSULT MEGADEMO).

   And another thing: if people with normal
reaction can not pass the shooter, no "Infinite" is not
make it better. Think more
time "infinizirovanny" "R-TYPE",
for the passage which does not require any response at all - 
the game simply makes no sense! Well, if

game to the same mediocre and uninteresting, the "hardware" of 
her "Infinity" the more will not help her become more popular. 
So is it worth while to spend the

time? Is it just that by
sport. Although, of course, the main tractor here - an 
unsatisfied ambition and lust for self-affirmation. After all, 
where easier to insert the "Infinite" in someone else's

program than to write something
his own, original. Here and decide whether or hobby
"Infinizatsiey" - a sign of "slope".

   Now on to save disk
space. In the "S" N14 it was
of disk space
spent on different "intro" -
faded in nature and cause of
content. We thought that
everything said about it
our readers - is indisputable. But
author of a critical article "Hacker - the same people" 
disagree with us. Why? Yes, everything is simple - it arguments 
are mighty: and that, say, a yourself going on there!

"SPECTROFON" - uncompressed! How awful for you! How many would 
still log fits to a single disc!

You are wasting our own DP!


   Sorry. Allow me to disagree. The best way to
Your wasting, a respected author, disk space,
it ... correctly, do not overwrite our magazine on its wheels.
Have every right to. It is better to write on a blank disc 
megademo. It is time. But if you think

yourself to our "still a fan, then leave us the right
to decide how to dispose of
OUR disk space.
This two. Also, please note the following fact: from whether
"S" zakompressirovan or not you
absolutely nothing to win. It will be the periodicity
same volume of approximately the same.
Price - the same. If you think that by squeezing the numbers, 
we will release them twice - the deeply mistaken. In the best

case, the five compressed disks that you have counted on us all 
the issues of the journal, would come out once per

half of the year. And as you know, our
readers would like to meet with
us more often.
Yes, and feedback at this
periodicity would be called into question.


   If you do not take into account all
above and just in
please the disaffected, compress each regular issue of the 
magazine - what will change? Speed Download? So it is 
compensated by the time of decompression (remember appearing in 
a fashion inscription "DEPACKING! WAIT, PLEASE!"). Who needs 
such a compression? And anyway, it's time to have to get used 
to the fact that the size of the program on a disk, or music 
film on the tape is determined no amount of media, but only 
those whom the product was produced. You ought to have

goodbye to the "soviet" mentality recording disk (media)
the eyeballs.
It was still justified in the days when floppy disks were more 
expensive dozen programs recorded on it. Now, when one drive

is much cheaper, it's time to get used to the fact that the 
cost of program is not determined by cost carrier, and its 
value. 


   As for the "STAR
HERITAGE, the accusations of bloat on a disk because of lack of 
compression - it is consequence of the incompetence of the 
accused, since most of the total games (graphics)

the game is compressed. For
experimental drive with the game trying to compress at IBM,
using a sufficiently powerful
compressors and PKZIP RAR - game
uzhalas only 12% (air compressor
LPC on the Spectrum shakes noticeably
PKZIP'a worse).

   Now back to the original
point - about rastranzhirovanii space hacker, who wrote some 
breathtaking, but too nasty to content of the "intro". It 
because was it? Is not it?



   We buy the game, and there silly mini-demo. We turn on the 
TV to watch good film, but we face it

show mediocre advertising. We
arrive at the store to buy bread
- And we grabbed the arm and pulled
the presentation of the sugar-free gum. "Yes, how many
You can? Tired! "- Says tortured everyman. But no, he
start hard to argue that
wicked mini-trial before a game -
full-fledged shell for
restored the blood and sweat
STRANGER game, mediocre ads
to a unique film - paid for and tested by "du
th SBSTA? ", presentation, and gum
Occupation magazine - paid
firm chew, while give. " More
Need examples? "SPECTROFON" never opposed the simple
and a beautiful shell for the disk
version of the game. If this is done
modestly and tastefully. But what
was happening in the loader
new games - or as the ravings of
impossible to get. Bucket of slops
and netsenzurschiny on the heads of our
users poured almost
each new adaptation. And now
Against this, we have always advocated
and we will act. Uymites,
Gentlemen, hackers, be merciful to one another, consider
because your "messages" can read the kids ...



   Next. About HAKKERSKIH RIGHTS "
writes our reviewer. We begin with
that no rights in the hacker
no.


   From a legal point of view
everything is clear - if he had not received
permission to adapt, modernize, Russification on the 
manufacturer of computer program, nor about what rights

and can be no question. If
such approval is obtained, then
The firm provides the programmer
source program and all the necessary information.


   But let's think like a hacker can justify its efforts
recovery of foreign
programs?



   Manufacturers far
Reluctance to call abroad, and
these programs for them - have long passed the stage so that
obviously, he compares his
action except that with the restoration of archaeological finds
rare beauty, accidentally discovered in a landfill in a 
terrible state. Well, this view has the right to life. But 
Imagine that the restorer, restoring some now, Doris it to your

taste, and for better perception
visually impaired friends - razmalyuet colors brighter. After 
such hard work instead of write the name of the author's 
signature its restoration workshop

and copyright - bigger, again
for their visually impaired friends.



   And the reasonable observation that
the author conceived his work somewhat differently, the restorer
will be offended and to explain that
all this for our own good.


   Well, what can be called a
"Reducing agent"? Does he
moral right to be engaged in such
"Recovery"? "I have full
right! After so much effort spent! "Absurd?" No doubt.
Only for some reason this one
does not remember when it comes to
programs. And should.


   As for the restoration of "broken" games - for God's sake
recover, but to observe
decency and do not write any rubbish.



   The fact that the "hacker - a programmer
able to make ... Changes ... without documentation, it
does not mean that he automatically becomes the owner of the 
legitimate copyright. Thus, their rights to foreign programs 
(both Western and domestic), our hackers can shut up.



   A commentary article's author
on the second definition
Dictionary of computers and programming in general - rudeness.
Otherwise, you will not name. Quote
no need to read carefully
comment.



   For its part, say the following - accuse the authors of a 
weak defense, it's like blame the director robbed

magazine that he had not fenced it with barbed wire and
placed at the entrance of a platoon of Special Forces and a 
pair of APCs. 


   Author of the article somehow forgets
that, among other things
There are laws that protect
copyrights, and common decency in the end.
While that talk about it - and hackers themselves all know. But 
they are so convenient to talk. Other than

to justify their thievery?
Strictly speaking, for such a
justification and is fed by all
These arguments are a kind of "philosophical platform."



   Some Russified
hacker games. I would like to
ask: how you look at the
next Russification, in the "intro"
which there is almost no
the whole dictionary of marketplace battle?
Do you want to use
"Services" such a "translator"?
There are many examples of mind-blowing "Russification", which 
are now abundantly splashed on the market. Russified game all 
and sundry. Even to our office occasionally receives letters 
read: "In Russian, not my forte s why I ask I'm sorry for 
vazmozhnye errors. Suggest to your court

Russification game IKSOLON "proezvedenuyu me ...". Who needs
such a "service"? A typical example
- Russification game "REBEL STAR".


In this "Russian" game, you can read the following gem: "A rat.
Subject matter in hand - the sharp teeth. "
Or again: "Svamper. The subject in hand - a tentacle." What? 
There are other examples, "SPECTROFON" already

not just writing about them.


             Looking for hacking

          Russification, remembering
          eat movie "Gentlemen
          Ny luck ", where one of

          heroes, having learned a couple of

            words in English,

              says: "Well,

              English I are
              Now I know I'll go

         work as a translator. "


           Now, the claims to

        programs included in

       application to our magazine
      Nala. This is, admittedly,
one of the weakest links in the
our work. And about this issue
We have already written. Cover all types of
Spectrum-compatible machines, we do not
in the state. We wrote that we can guarantee our work
application solely on the two
stamps machines - PROFI and Moscow.
This, of course, does not mean that
say, none of PENTAGONe
programs that are included in Annex
will not go. Just consider all the nuances of the behavior of 
various brands of computers is not always possible. 


   About the "beer" inferences and analogies. If we are to 
compare different versions of hacking foreign programs and seek 
counterparts in the food industry, you need to remember that 
beer - And "Zhigulevskoe" and "Baltic" -

available manufacturers, and
not resellers and brokers.
So your importance in this
Indeed, to put it mildly, exaggerated. Think out the rest 
themselves and Find your place adequate

in a chain of producer - consumer.


   And finally - your conclusion by
the attitude to hackers and logical link with kladovskoy 
version of the game "ELITE". Actually no connection here. We 
hope you understand that when two the parties negotiate an 
exchange or purchase of its products, the ratio of one party to 
brokers and middlemen in this case plays no role in such 
negotiations. AND issue here can go on a purely

material side of things.



   Finally, and most recently: about
hard you thought of the nominated
"Clip" readers' letters in defense of hackers. If you carefully
read all editions of our magazine, you may have noticed that we
had even "predict"
Possible answers to our publication. That's why we wrote
"Someone says so" or "someone
may object, "etc. And where
it would be easier to quote
the finished letter in defense of the hacker
than by the formulation of possible views on this matter. 
Write, do not hesitate if you have something to say.



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