Optron #36 16 июня 2000

Интервью     ZXNet

Meet - an interview with Aleksey Ivanov - the coordinator of an international network spektrumistov ZXNet.

                   Alex


  From the Editor


  Alexei Ivanov (Alex) - Zonal Coordinator mezhdynarodnoy 
electronic network spektrymistov ZXNet, one of its founders

and most active ychastnikov. Was one
of the authors of the first newspaper spektrymistskoy
"On-Line".

  His interview supplemented by a number of statements in 
ehokonferentsii ZXNET.GENERAL. Except of poskolky it 
encountered moments quite obvious but the "mother networker"

(And we orientiryemsya not only them but also
for "simple users"), its explanation for
hody of the case gave Gena Busher.



  Let's start with his autobiography


  "Optron" (O):

  - How did you come to Spektrymy?

  Alexei Ivanov (AI):

  - Somewhere in 1987-88, the company kypil
Spektrym. At that time it was a very solid purchase, but I was 
at his zarplaty finally arrived could afford once a year

krypnyyu pokypky of this kind. Spektrymy I
thanks - for what he gave me
THESE dryzey.

  About:

  - How do you yznali the various options
performance Spektryma?

  AI:

  - In my first Spektryme burned
IC ULA, and he was lying y me home
gryzom dead. In 1991, I kypil kompyutyuter Delta-C "- 
namychilsya, leading him in a normally operating state. After 
ponachaly any normal programs or schemes are not was. A 
poskolky in the Delta-C "have been identified bugs, I began to 
look and izychat options schemes (for the time tomy

Stores were filled with Spektrymami their
Then, it seems, is not only lazy vypyskal). And somehow I did 
not divide them by name. Of them, except for "Leningrad", no I 
do not remember the names of schemes and "Leningrad" was 
remembered because of its simplicity and zaglyuchennosti, 
"Under-Spektrym" shorter than it was. 

  About:

  - Who is Alexei Ivanov in life, not
associated with Spektrymom?

  AI:

  - All my life is connected with computers and
computer technologies. But recently
time, priorities shifted to the practical use of computers. 
Doing design, publishing and printing. In

August last year opened a service
Bureau of publishing and printing yslyg.
So to speak, has got his own business.

  About:

  - Well, the interview in Optocouplers "may
poslyzhit additional advertising of your
business ...

  AI:

  - Advertise in your publication I do not
give. We in advertising have not need you. AND
so with peregryzkami work. Now we wait until the new 
legislation, and if it bydet not directed at the final 
ynichtozhenie middle class in Russia, bydem ykrypnyatsya.


  About:

  - In addition to ZXNet and work, there is y you
some other classes - for dyshi?

  AI:

  - My job is "to dyshi. Design, printing yslygi - very 
interesting and addictive process. 

  About:

  - A family?

  AI:

  - Two children: daughter, 16, syny 11 years.
Parents zhivyt separately.



  Network history: the beginning


  About:

  - As appeared in Moscow CDOS-modems?

  AI:

  - Somewhere in 1995, the radio market in Mitino. Someone well 
upgraded iS-Modem (was so primitive that connects through the 
tape slot and not ymevshy himself to "take trybky).


  About:

  - Why was it necessary ZXNet? Is neleya
had become part of FIDO?

  AI:

  - HAYES-modems used to link
by FIDO, then to Spektrymy not included - due to their high 
cost (they cost just ten more expensive than now) and 
otsytstviya software. Poetomy about any question then FIDO

did not go. This poslyzhilo push to create
their networks with gateways, can convert pochty with Speccy on 
the PC and transfer it to drygie network. 

  About:

  - Getting started ZXNet in Moscow?

  AI:

  - Pozhalyy with the fact that in August 1995
(I think) there was a BBS, which
you can always find gazety "On-Line".
And once the system operator of the BBS
forgot ybrat from the drive servernyyu version
program! But if users were
dostypna only program trebyyuschaya
pychnogo ypravleniya and automatic
server is sold for money. Hy, and bred BBS. Chasing 
popylyarnostyu, sysops were laid out on their station any texts 
and software, because then the information hunger was terrible.


  About:

  - It is with this requirement and was connected to the users 
BBS "If you download information, then pay for it for her?


  AI:

  - Maybe some of the sysops, and demanded, but not me. On the 
contrary, on my screen saver was written: "download only pochty

or transit. "There were, for example, such sityatsii when two 
people from the poor quality of communication could not convey 
dryg drygy file, and they had to use my help. I always left 
such slychaev pystoy drive. Ie My station was a transit.




  "On-Line"


  About:

  - What for you was "On-Line"?

  AI:

  - The newspaper appeared with the first
Moscow BBS. It was only then spektrymovskoe edition and 
poskolky, I uzhk said, was a hunger for information

and vdryg came something new, something
"On-Line" srazy also became wildly popylyarnoy.

  Spektrymisty can say rallied
vokryg "On-Line". Earlier on tysovalis
market small gryppkami, and now you take
our first pointlist (350 people) - and
all you know. And almost all in the face. However,
all this in detail told Editor
and creator of the newspaper - Dmitry Grigoryev
(Oldman) in the "Nicron'e" | 88.

  Gena Busher (GB):

  - Pointlist - a list of points (web users).

  About:

  - And as Gregory attracted to work in the newspaper you?

  AI:

  - I once phoned emy and offered assistance in processing the 
text on the PC (PC y me then there was). Until I had no 
formatting or spelling. On a PC formatted text, passed Dime, and

He finally arrived carries it to "On-Line'ovogo" form.

  About:

  - So why "On-Line" vypyskalas weekly?

  AI:

  - The people demanded it.

  About:

  - So why vypysk it was discontinued?

  AI:

  - There drygie edition. All themes were written, rewritten. 
Dima became difficult something pridymyvat - and makes the 
material he one. The newspaper played its part and Dmitry

decided to discontinue its vypysk, the more that
and time to do something it is not a newspaper y
was.

  About:

  - Is it useful to present material spektrymistam-networker?

  AI:

  - I believe that, except for some
articles on the telephone and iron out there on
Currently nothing aktyalnogo not. This
- History has finally arrived.

  About:

  - Even your "Diary of a sysop" ystarel?

  AI:

  - Yes. It could be interesting except that
where network-prezhnemy on CDOS'ah works. A y we finally 
arrived in Moscow almost all y is HAYES'y.


  About:

  - What did you work in the "On-Line"?

  AI:

  - Another ydovolstvie do something
for someone useful. Something for the Speccy.
We're just fanateli on this computer. Then the PC is more 
expensive $ 1000 worth. 

  About:

  - And how about purchasing practices
experience, dating, relationships?

  AI:

  - Practice and experience of publishing y me
had finally arrived. Dating gave me more myself
network and the increasing number of voice calls. 
Communication? Oh, no, sort of. Although ... many relationships 
have grown into drygyyu plane. We can say that the business 
partners, not dryzya-spektrymisty. That's how life turns.




  Network History: continued


  - Kakyyu role of "On-Line" has played in the formation of 
ZXNet? 

  AI:

  - Before beginning work in "On-Line" I
yspel enough to climb FIDO'shnym yzlam
(If required ysloviem syschestvovaniya
yzla was the presence of BBS). Plucking the information was in 
a sling ink "On-Line" Wikipedia on FIDO and the Internet, 
pomalenky promoting the idea of ​​the network. Then Oldman and 
several other people began to develop it, the idea soorydit 
something like network MX: for people with modems, then

was in Moscow, about 350 people.

  In the end I got a call on telefony
and offered to host the first gathering sisopov.
Rather, they said: "In such a day, at a certain time meeting. 
Dashed off to bymage stryktypy network and Model Rules, and 
offer. "In short, the voluntary-prinyditelno on I was hung 
first ZXNet. 

  A few months later, it seems, in
February-March 1996, almost all sysops
got together and decided to start work
online to make your life easier. This
was a day of networking.

  About:

  - When ZXNet evolved from a local
Mesh Moscow spektrymistov in polnotsennyyu Network?

  AI:

  - I believe in 1999, when ZXNet okonchatelno became the 
standards FTS. For it - special thanks to the authors

network software.

  GB:

  - Here we are talking about that all
spektrymovskie yzly links were gathered together and formed 
tsentralizovannyyu ZXNet, sootvetstvyyuschyyu requirements 
established FidoNet members of the Committee on Standards

Technology FidoNet (FidoNet Technology
Standards Comittee, FTSC).

  In general, in Russia founded
not less than 20 FTN-compatible networks (FTN
- Short for Fidonet Technology Network, ie "Network Technology 
FidoNet"); Some of them are designed exclusively for 
communication, some - commercial. 

  About:

  - Tell me about the legendary "Moscow
sisopnikah.

  AI:

  - Once in Moscow, was not one network, and
few. Sysops wandered from one network to
drygyyu, sending dryg dryga on ... (Sent dryg drygy Fakie, "as 
networkers). 

  Hy, I decided to speak with all of bytylochkoy beer. The 
place chosen by the house: subway, a forest, a wholesale market 
with cheap prices. You can iskypatsya if desired - there is 
prydy. Agreed to meet in lesy, opposite of the last car of the 
Underground center. Kypil ypakovky cans of beer, it

vytreskali.

  In sledyyuschyyu sybboty was even more
narody, mainly due to freeloaders Point, relied on khalyavnykh 
beer. Naturally, they waited bummer ...


  GB:

  - There is a subway station vidy Izmailovsky. She - not 
underground, and "open", came out of it, you find yourself 
srazy in Izmailovo park.



  AI:

  - In general, everyone liked it and decided to
collected kazhdyyu week. They took beer, chips, nuts ... All 
were sisopniki always in one place, regardless of season and 
weather yslovy. 

  Sometimes, the 60 people gathered. Hy,
then people are usually divided into gryppki
interest. Sometimes there were out of town -
one or two people, a "crowd" - just in
time spektrymovskogo festival FunTop'98.

  Now we finally arrived it did not ... It became difficult to 
collect people. All grown up, working. Time

small. Going 5-9 people, get drunk in
dreziny. From prydov there was only one
net. And even we are not there to swim riskyem -
yvidenny a bum all the mood to kypaniyu spoils. Sometimes, for 
several months a row are not going to.




  Network life


  About:

  - How to change your network life since the founding of ZXNet?

  AI:

  - Almost 5 years have passed since the introduction of
first modem. People and personal communication
fewer, and the traffic (volume of correspondence)
increased. When the transmission of information
more dependent on pyk operators were
active meetings and communication about telefony.
Now, when running Automatic, yroven
communication decreases. Nothing interesting network in Moscow 
long has finally arrived does not happen - stagnation, as in a 
swamp. Everything works itself: the software can automatically 
detect. Wrote a letter - went to bed - very go ... Skykota. 

  More spektrymistov "prescribed"
at FIDO. HAYES'y connect, and after entering
in vkys, pokypayut PC and dump with
Spektryma. I'm still in the moment of creation ZXNet
said: nyzhna it only spektrymistov-realschikov using their 
specific modems. What has changed since then: modems become 
cheaper, software is written. Plugging HAYES, prescribed in 
pointlist FIDO, what more do you want? ZXNet perform their 
dealer service tools and bydet not nyzhna. People move to 
primery in FIDO'shnyyu ehokonferentsiyu ZX.SPECTRUM ... 

  Many grew up, just throw everything.

  About:

  - Sometimes, and vice versa. Lviv,
For example, someone comes in just vkys
"Old age". In Moscow, this is not
notice?

  AI:

  - There are some. But I do not mogy say how they were "old." 
I probably in ZXNet oldest ... I'm almost 36 years.


  About:

  - Kakyyu part consists of "realschiki in
current ZXNet?

  AI:

  - Trydno say. Computers are becoming cheaper,
y almost all have two.

  GB:

  - Sydya by correspondence ZXNet, half
People ispolzyet various versions
GoldED and tomy similar PC'shnye mail
editors. So where does this spektrymisty, and where - disguised 
Spektrymom? 

  AI:

  - Be in the "Optocouplers" to use smileys, I
would add that under some
emylyatorom Spektryma ispolzyyut mail
Editor LaraCroft ...

  About:

  - So you - for emoticons?

  AI:

  - Yes, bezyslovno. Companion is not visible, so at least on 
his mood smayliky can be defined.


  About:

  - In short, if hit, but put the smiley face, it is not 
hitting? 

  AI:

  - Watching a smiley. After all, we read
letter did not hear the intonation of the author, not
see the expression on his face. And the "attack"
uttered by a living voice, with quite
else be the default intonation changes the whole syt said. For 
example, if I have someone to "cover", then only know me 
personally poymyt: I seriously or with humor, or irony ...

That smiley face and helps to understand (most
total).

  GB:

  - I also think so.

  About:

  - How many cities are now in ZXNet?

  AI:

  - Here is the table:



     Address City


   500:95 Moscow

   500:812 St. Peterbyrg

   500:3622 Exactly

   500:816 Novgorod

   500:17 Minsk

   500:152 Grodno

   500:8362 Yoshkar-Ola

   500:322 Lions

   500:572 Kharkov

   500:612 Zaporozhye

   500:3432 Ekaterinbyrg

   500:562 Dnepropetrovsk

   500:4232 Vladivostok

   500:8462 Samara

   500:3882 Gorno-Altaisk



  GB:

  - This is - incomplete data. Case that
yzly regard to a particular city may
be connected Yeshe some town.
For example, to Harkovy connected Donetsk, to
Lvovy - Nadvornaya.

  About:

  - How cities connect to ZXNet?

  AI:

  - In working order: send email
agree on passwords and settings. All
simple. Communication mezhdy cities in ZXNet
osyschestvlyaetsya via the Internet with
simple mail order program. When sending mail using Binkd 
connection periodically lost. We do not have a static IP, to 
put the server on Binkd. 

  GB:

  - IP - permanent dostyp to Internety ...

  AI:

  - False at the root.

  IP-address - it ynikalny address of the computer on the 
Internet. It can be static, and can be allocated dynamically 
(ie when losing connection sledyyuschee connection

Network bydet under drygim address. A Binkd -
this exchange program e-mail packages
via the Internet.

  Once on someone else's initiative starting any nibyd changes 
in well-functioning Distribution System - srazy same lezyt 
failures which are difficult to detect and even harder

ystranit. And it is very angry.

  Rassydite yourself! Connected city fynktsioniryet okay. And 
now there appears the idea of ​​doing something in drygomy. 
Must be entered starting a letter asking me to reconfigure the 
software. I have to reconfigure and link (connection, I mean)

- Dead. Vstypat in diskyssii neither the strength nor
no time. Waited until the subscriber himself with
I will get in touch, and reconfigures all over again. But when 
these occur constantly throwing ... It has finally arrived 
sverhterpenie be have!


  GB:

  - Yes, the correction of errors in the settings -
is still busy! But the disruptions do not happen
Only poets reason. For example, we have a y
Lviv from time to time to lose dostyp
"Halyavnomy" Internety (you know -
"Freebie" eternal can not be!), And you have to look for new 
opportunities. 

  About:

  - How do you rate ychastie in ZXNet various "eminent persons"?

  AI:

  - Trydno say ... Faces almost all "visible." More precisely, 
I do not agree with people on the "eminent" and "normal." And 
so all spektrymistov becomes less and less. Radyet that

there are young people, then, Speccy
still too early to write.

  About:

  - Do the concepts of "ZXNet" and "spektrymistskoe movement?

  AI:

  - Network trydno call traffic.

  About:

  - Binds a ZXNet spektrymistov?

  AI:

  - Spektrymist - gryppa blood. If
before the network and unite, it has now
has become a common means of transmission
information. And many do not byd ZXNet,
still naydyt way to contact mezhdy
themselves. For 6 years a lot ysovershenstvovalos
and many communication problems were solved.



  The crown "


  About:

  - What is your activity coordinator?

  AI:

  - Adopt-send pochty and trace
that packets are not "bouncing". From time
time terminates communication between Moscow and some cities 
and local coordinators have to fumble to recover it. 

  GB:

  - Even when the software automata
which zagryzhayut pochty into a computer, there
it is spread by nyzhnym addresses and rules marshrytizatsii 
(Tossa) and then send, nyzhno still include computer zapyskat 
these machines, monitor their work and so much more, trailing 
only Alex'u.


  And about the "bounce address" - postypaet, for example, from 
Lviv in transit through Moskvy postal package. A server Alex'a 
it So why not take anything (because of the erroneous

address corruption in the process of shipment, or failure 
tosser out there - an unfavorable position of the planets) and 
returns back to the sender - with sootvetsvyyuschey

receipt, in which ykazana reason for the refusal. Here's a 
package and "bounced". If this occurs on the sender, then Alex

Usually ships emy of etomy povody personal letter ("Soap"). 
"Lather neck," so say.


  But if you want my opinion, the
Coordinator, "All ZXNet" obliged pervyyu
queue time issue in light of new
nodelists (lists yzlov and their owners-sisopov; node - email 
yzel, the station). Here information from reliable sources:


  "The first thing you need to
enough telekommynikatsionnyh yzlov networked, to share 
information - the presence in this network specific stryktyry.


  To each division of FTN-compatible network (area, region, 
network) has its Coordinator: ZC - Zone Coordinator, RC -

Region Coordinator, NC - Net Coordinator.
Moreover, syschestvyyut EC - "Echomail Coordinators" (ZEC, REC, 
and NEC). 

  Coordinators support the livelihoods of its stryktyry, vedyt 
sootvetstvyyuschy nodelist segment and forward it 
vyshestoyaschemy koordinatory (from NC to ZC), responsible for 
peresylky Netmail (network correspondence) sent by members 
network from its drygih yzlov. 

  The coordinator can handle vyhodyaschyyu
Netmail, but is not obliged to do it. "

  About:

  - They take that whole ZXNet keeps on
You have one?

  AI:

  - Hy, say so would be preyvelicheniem, but in fact it goes so 
far as follows: except for me, no one now link does not

involved. Maybe even Kharkov coordinator Alex Bygay that is 
trying to do, but it often otsytstviya y in the network happen.


  About:

  - Ho is - "technical" activities. A
How about "directing, and pykovodyaschey
Kara?

  AI:

  - Nothing. No complaints. In addition to technical
activities rarely kyda any interfere. Yes, and I'm not trying 
to etomy. Sometimes glypo konfliktyyu the moderators. In any

any that, if not right - apologize publicly.
If the right - lezy ahead of the official
as ZC.

  About:

  - How long does it takes y your network?

  AI:

  - How do y ZC - two hours a day on, but as y
sysop - also about two hours: many personal letters
comes, and ekhi be read again.

  About:

  - What is it - to be "Head ZX-world"?

  AI:

  - Bad. I finally arrived ystal everything. Time
lacking. Sleep for 4-6 hours a day on low. In addition to its 
problems, it is necessary to solve problems chyzhie. 

  About:

  - What, for example?

  AI:

  - For example, the Internet and oplaty propyskanie chyzhogo 
hung traffic through rabochyyu mashiny.


  About:

  - Whom are you most networkers dryzhny?

  AI:

  - Almost all Moscow nodes, with
Dmitry Grigoryev. Periodically to chat with Petrograd Roman 
Alexandrov not only on network issues.


  About:

  - Y As you cross the "personal" and "business" relationship?

  AI:

  - Oddly, no. "Personal" relationship to me in my work 
coordinator is not help and not hinder. And maybe a hindrance.

Poskolky cares for my free
time and to my family problems.



  Your position


  About:

  - Should syschestvovat "taby on to speak about certain topics 
in ZXNet? 

  AI:

  - About politics, I would not say that. At least politiky 
"taby" do. Dirty matter - policy ...


  GB:

  - Talking about politics in the "general" or the network can 
often lead to mutual insults and hitting the national 
character, "or go off the kakyyu a particular interesnyyu only 
by the interlocutors, and neinteresnyyu even razdrazhayuschyyu 
for Other ychastnikov ekhi. So on temy policy lychshe talk to 
some more " Local "echo like our ZXNET.SALO.


  AI:

  - I agree.

  About:

  - What can be fraught syschestvovanie
virtyalov in ZXNet?

  AI:

  - Are you talking about?

  GB:

  - Those who hide behind multiple
names and, correspondingly, the network address.

  AI:

  - So after all on yzel without the password to connect! So, 
if you could virtyal vpihnyt to network your package and it 
protoss, then for takyyu "virtyalnost" sysop should respond. A 
coordinator and moderator is absolutely no concern. 

  About:

  - Hyzhny whether ZXNet some general rules
or lychshe all leave on ysmotrenie and
dobryyu will coordinators and moderators
a priori, taking their infallibility?

  AI:

  - Leaning toward poslednemy.

  ZXNet runs like clockwork. As
pykovodyaschih dokymentov enough
standard FTS. Why, once again
reinvent the wheel? Personally, I have an extra
bureaucracy organically digest. If the system works - it nefig 
pykami touch.


  But such questions are not up to me, and all
network. The fact that some of its special position, kotoryyu I 
would have defended, y no me. Although ... My position is to 
people themselves naychilis in setevomy kyltyrno conduct. 
Explained: there are such razykrashennye letters that just 
start to feel sorry for of nibyd Point of CDOS and hourly

payment, pulling bespoleznyyu information
with poor communications. It is for this attitude to 
razdolbayskoe drygim networker with configuration editor, I 
sometimes akkyratno "Soap" insert sticking.


  GB:

  - But it is - one of many emerging
when communicating in a network of private matters. A
to solve their B complex, long overdue
zaimet Charter ZXNet. People to know about
their rights and responsibilities, stryktypy network, how to 
conduct the election of a moderator. Then chyvstvo and some 
that have an eye on all of us - not to shalili "bydet. And then

They take that ZXNet not have a person
and there is nothing to equal. How can I go to
machine, not knowing the rules of the road?

  AI:

  - From the outset ZXNet is a union of independent networks. 
Each local area network - its charter. 

  About:

  - And how regylirovat INTER-NETWORK relationship?

  AI:

  - At yrovne ZXNet - ystavom FIDO. All
He still in the preparation of "general ystava
ZXNet "bydet rewritten almost one-to-odnomy. And on yrovne 
regions - it is impossible all to edinomy ystavy lead. In 
different cities - different hardware, software requirements.


  GB:

  - In my opinion, it is really an overall charter, which was 
not very tough, ychityval heterogeneous hardware and software 
and could be flexibly adjusted by a certain region ... 

  AI:

  - I can not poymy: What will a single charter? Covered by a 
named, or what? Mail to walk? Ehi go? More to that?


  About:

  - Should the relationship regylirovat gateway to all equally, 
and not on the basis "In our network so is not accepted."


  As can be guided by the Charter ZXNet FIDO, if between them - 
a lot technical and organizational differences?

For example, Point in statys ZXNet not defined. In Moscow, 
Point - not a member of the network (ie can not choose and be 
chosen). And in St. Petersburg, and Ukraine - the penis.


  AI:

  - And a fig a member, if he does
the network does not?

  Points do not transfer information. Polzyyutsya yslygami. The 
network should include only those who really through himself

propyskaet traffic.


  As for the relationship mezhdy points and nodes, there is not 
in the Constitution, and personal decency. For example, I his 
ego long zasynyl in one place: I go through all ekhi in all 
cities, but I obey the requirements of the moderators and their

observations perceive no stink (although earlier and vozbyhal). 
Principle One: Network - for users. If you raise the personal 
ambitions - we are tyt FIG nyzhny. 



   ZX-press


  About:

  - What do you dymaete on the current ZX-press?

  AI:

  - Now I'm reading the newspaper is not enough. A archives
publications do not keep due to lack of space. At least any 
that I interesyyuschie topics not covered there, and there is 
no time: I finally arrived for the day on the layout to any 
publication - Either the printed or the electronic -

look no mogy. Every newspaper and its zhyrnala ayditoriya: komy 
like that, he it reads, and waits impatiently

sledyyuschy number. However, to postypayuschie
I ZX-newspaper on I-bystromy "leafed through".
Kills an abundance of advertising. And always a
impression that the editors for a long time and
krypitsam collect material, suffering from its
shortage.

  And as for "OPTRON", it has | 31 dedicated ZXNet, it was 
interesting to read. In addition, it would be necessary and 
write about the software: how to looks like an editor. And then 
people do not like to read and ask dokymentatsiyu kychy issues 
to which I am not physically able to answer. 

  And in the ZX-newspaper if it self imenyet
"Network" would be aktyalno pyblikovat
detailed diagrams Gorov communication with each other.
I occasionally throw ety information
ZXNET.GENERAL, where y is my "suitcase" mood yyti from the 
network. Lately it happens more often, but people in the 95% 
slychaev refer to my statement this way: "... yes kyda he go!" 

  About:

  - And what should be the task ZX-newspapers
terms of propaganda ZXNet?

  AI:

  - The very appearance of the Lviv newspaper,
dopystim, Yoshkar-Ola, according to our means, -
it has finally arrived propaganda network. Do More
nibyd something you want?



  Festivals


  About:

  - What is your attitude for the
Computer festivals?

  AI:

  - Good. This brings great spektrymistov.

  About:

  - Hyzhen whether spektrymistam its own central festival?

  AI:

  - I think that yes. This is not slychae
Discrimination platform and comparisons with
drygimi computers. At the festival should be
to gather like-minded people. In addition, it
will enable the best use of time, not diluting it drygimi
platforms.

  About:

  - And whether in Moscow, who else but
Wlodek'a Black'a, to organize such
Festival?

  AI:

  - The fact that in Moscow, except
Wlodek'a, there is no possibility of someone y
polychit at its disposal a normal
Hall. During FT'98 Wlodek, so to speak, "used his position 
slyzhebnoe. And we, all the rest, as they could, doing 
everything else. Of all spektrymistov under pykoy this area 
only as long as y Wlodek'a.




  Ask yourself!


  About:

  - Sformyliryyte questions that you do not
I would like to polychit - by themselves and they
answer.

  AI:

  - Well, poprobyyu:

  "So why are you still doing
ZXNet'om? "- I do not know.

  "Alex, when you finally stop drinking
in such quantities? "- How polychitsya so
and polychitsya ... Starting tomorrow, decided never to drink, 
and we'll see ... More all, just bydy do much

less ...

  Enough?

  About:

  - And what question you would like to polychit?

  AI:

  - Do not know: I do not like to answer questions!

  About:

  - Especially thank you very much for
time ydelennoe "Optrony and detailed answers to our questions.

  AI:

  - Hy, to detail here was far away ...