On-Line #73 16 февраля 1997

Игры

Mosaic - Comments on the magazine Oberon 2. "Land of Myths" for 128? On the development of "ZX-Winword v1.3".

(C) Eugene Miloon / Stars of Keladan, Samara


   Greetings Dimitri (sorry, that "you" - the old fidoshnaya
wont turn to his companion, though familiar, though unknown, 
the "you", if wronged, sorry). Eugene wrote to you Miloon 
(group Stars of Keladan). You may have guessed at what topic I 
want to talk, correctly, about your "presentation" in 
Online'64. Please be patient, and read to the end.



   Online'64 we have only received 02/02/1997. It seems you do 
not obideshsya much if I say that Oberon # 2 you have not read 
(and probably all, did not even see) and wrote his article 
under the dictation of Stepa (from them, we did not expect, and 
from you too: ((() is now in more detail. 


   About professionalism. In the introduction to the first 
number we wrote almost word for word, "we are not artists and 
musicians, and simple programmers are professionals and want to 
share with readers is the point of view 'inside' and not from 
the perspective of an uneducated user, as it sometimes does 
Spectrofon ". In the 2 nd room this issue does not rise. The 
only thing where we let itself "povypendrivatsya, was a letter 
in Spectrofon, written in (!!!) January 1996 (already passed 
more than a year) and published in 18-m room. Ah, yes. There 
are still very fresh - the answer lam ... Dmitry Glushkov. 
Thus, we discuss the letter for Spectrofon'a or our Oberon? 
:-)))) 


   About ZX-Format, we do not speak a word (case shesh, 
head:)))). Yes, in those days, we have not seen Spectrofon'20 
(Review, where he was mentioned, was written "rainy day", and 
the Journal of Moscow had brought the one who brought back 
Oberon), and you did not knew that the residents did not 
receive a Moscow, for example, only 19 th Spectrofon at the 
time, like all Muscovites have already obchitatsya 20-m? But 
our Samara - not the outback. 


   About the "popularity" does not say, but only hint: more 
than half of the CIS (the usual nick, not we, a small coterie 
of fans, exchanging parcels with the discs) have never heard of 
Online and about its chief editor. And because the theme "Who 
Bole popular" Let's leave the lamer. 


   About Literacy is also nothing to say, here you are almost 
right - in 2-m room had a few typos and some errors that

we noticed after the release number. But on the other hand,
Spectrofon'e almost every room you can (with a strong desire)
find the same thing. And in your "Presentation" I personally 
(not even our heads. ed.) noticed the absence of a pair of 
commas;). Yes and no philology we're doing. 


   About self-esteem and "reply to Chamberlain." Repent, 
peccadillo conceit behind us usual, but from whom he is not? 
And about the "answer", so you better to say exactly what we're 
wrong (incidentally, in two or three sentences about copyright, 
we really say something wrong, and you found these phrases? 
:)), Everything else is very true, these are the cross:) 
Especially about INFORKOM'ovskuyu advertising.: (( 


   About the "heavy and useless LIKBEZ. Again, you're ahead of 
the rest:) Very much enjoyed my article, moreover, I even 
expressed gratitude for the fact that I showed people how and 
in what sequence programmers write programs (Sorry, but this is 
how to do this we have been taught at the institute, and that 
is how we write programs to work all the programmers). Although 
because I'm in a hurry, the article actually came out a few 
crumpled. 


   About the "kick unfortunate pioneer of electronic media." 
You know, during the Soviet era pioneers had the distinctive 
features - from time they became members of the Komsomol, and 
there and the Communists. A Spectrofon not only to them did 
not, but on the contrary, recused himself and became 
oktyabrenkom. The quality of the shell has improved only with 
your coming (but that same 20 th issue! And we have only the 2 
nd !!!), but quality (or rather, objectivity) of material 
remained the same. 


   About the coolness of the shell and "confirmation of 
professionalism." To quote a phrase to say to our main 
coder'om: "Well, yes, lamer We, this is our self accidentally 
happened to write a shell and not to the 20 th number, and by 
the 2-nd. "Well, what do you gives us an example? Pechatalku of 
Spectrofon'20? Well, I saw it, and inside and outside. In the 
128-meter mode, you work with a 2 nd screen, but because they 
do not consider us "lamer, the algorithm does not understand", 
you first build an image, and only then will immediately show. 
In the 48-m mode of course it prints faster than ours, but not 
much. Also you need to first clear the screen, and then will 
egregious glitches with the video. Ah-ah-ah-ah, podzagruzki you 
do not like? :)) And it is because a decent amount of material 
and music in the room you are not interested? A championship 
between Spectrofon and Oberon on skorozagruzhaemosti articles 
arranged? And generally, you know that we all have ever 
downloaded for reading articles (More modules podgruzki) 
AUTOMATICALLY discarded on the RAM-disk (Unless, of course, 
more memory than 48K)? And the top (as 128-I and 256-I 512-I 
,...) memory automatically (!) Is supported on five computers: 
Spectrum-128 (any), Profi, Scorpion / Kay, ATM, Pentagon-512, 
does not matter? 


   Shake the stars I can say this - throw out your Profi.
All these "glyuny" only Profi, and only because of its 
glyuchnosti method to reconstruct the image on the screen. I 
will please you - in 3-m room you will also be "glyuny" (only 
on the Profi, naturally) with the inscription "OBERON". 


   Well naturally you think about our "land of myths" did not 
like. Well Why, did not do it for 128K! Have you seen her? I 
mean, you climbed inside? So there simply write everything from 
scratch, you take appeal to the overlay in the 256-th memory. 
Pro settings - Boris, you wrong:) All the buzz is just that 
everyone is all can customize for themselves. And that is why 
the very best options to choose was difficult - not the best 
options, rather there is one: turn off all this degradation, 
but that is what we have laid the default. Oh, you're not 
talking about the fact that the abandonment of the file system 
podzagruzoki and that we are not in sync conclusion sprites? :) 
First, read our help, everything is explained. A-ah, you 
already read it. But where there is "bullying"? In that we run 
into writers for mashing the status file? Due to just drop dead 
and hidden in a formatted CD Text helra? Because of the "jokes" 
with psevdosbrosom computer? Due to a heap of separate versions 
for Profi, Scorpion, ATM? What, Me wrong, that is a mockery of 
the user-player? A Did it ever occur to her that we began to 
remodel _POSLE_ That they themselves played in the "original" 
and looked like are the others? But, to synchronize the output 
is really poor - no seats, you yourself just want to see in 
this game 128K. ;)))



   Oh yeah, now Empire 128. Let me ask you again about
same: you're in it climbed inside? No? So you do not know how 
much memory it actually takes and how much memory should be on 
disk driver that supports a standard set of functions to work 
with files? And how much memory on the driver that loads the 
"normal" driver disk? This is the first. Secondly, the 
experience of Elite 3 taught us many things, in particular the 
fact that at 48k it is better not to play - the procedure 
simply changing discs. Because of this, yes even for time 
running out, the game is nothing AY-Shnogh. Third, A.B.K. (Aka 
Noman), which by your words to us diskoviziroval this game - 
just the same "third" (this is where you wrote, that our Stars 
of Keladan'e three), and written about this was in accession to 
the 2-th number. But because of our magazine you have not seen, 
and wrote almost dictated Spectrofon'a, then we consider it 
unfortunate misunderstanding. Yes, and worked on the Empire did 
not Only he, he just "wise" over it more than others and that he

it "put into operation." For example, first I killed her with a 
terrible glyuny usherbnymi sprites. And anyway, hit, yes hit? 
:)))) And on Spectrofon'ovskuyu "Shadow of the Beast" (20-th 
issue) do not want to go after? ;))) I can throw dirt.



   Not-e-ee, I schA at you the same naedu:))) In the 21 th 
Spectrofon'e that would read the article, you must wait about 
5-6 seconds, which would come from an article in the main menu 
- about the same. And in your Captain Blood KSA was awarded a 
great honor:) - you are both thrown out of the 48-intro music 
(short fragments of one of the compositions of Jean 
Michel-Jarre) and inserted back KSA'shnuyu. And now: 
inscription on the splash screen music by Jean Michel-Jarre 
replaced by your music, and by the maestro of nowhere and does 
not smell. And little has been done than four shipments, and 
more? :))) That's right, in detail You can find fault with each.



   In-in, about my ZX-WinWord better shut up - you have not 
seen him. Although I must admit that in version 1.0 (Beta 
version) display really slow, but then I decided quite 
different tasks, and therefore already in the next version, 
1.2, and I made it possible fast (taking into account the 
specifics of layout in memory, 3-byte access method, etc.). And 
in fact already prepared 1.3! :) About this, why "WinWord", I 
explained in the magazine (after all, might at first read: ((Or 
you have read and "angry" at what I have called your beloved 
ZX-Word ZX-Lexicon, sending all its users directly to akulistu? 
But, you know, the font is 4 * 8, for some reason confirms my 
words and refutes yours. Although, still, you have something to 
say about my editor - all text and graphics fully recruited and 
decorated it in him, just like your Online - a ZX-Word. A speed 
indicator display text on the screen for the editors is not a 
"last resort" on-leave this alone assaults of the print speed.



   About my Track Doctor (remember the correct name:) will not 
speak. Firstly it was written long ago, and secondly, in spite 
of his unprepossessing appearance, his peers on the 
capabilities (in terms of quality of salvation informations) 
and, most importantly, to iformirovaniyu users about what 
happened to a floppy I have not seen.



   That is hit by "Speed ​​Co." many will not speak, they
you all write. But personally, I have long laughed at the 
phrase "to distribute fully working version of the domestic 
game such a high level, to put it mildly, ugly." That is 
working - not nice, but a broken (which first appeared in 
Moscow almost simultaneously with the "firm") - it is 
beautiful? About polzovateleya in general and about the owners 
of Spectrum-Emulators (which is not "firm", but is "Haqq of 
Speed ​​Co."), which is becoming more and more, no one thinks? 
Yes, and "(c)" from the Speed ​​Co. there is nowhere (!!!) No, 
there is only their intro (but after Step'ovskogo), with the 
menu, you can either run the game, or read the novel (again - 
all while maintaining its Step'ovsky view) or read the help 
(and here it is already on the Speed ​​Co.). And all in one 
bottle - everything about "Star Heritage 1", all on one disc 
(btw, step'ovtsy it should have been a long time to do so). 


   Slyushay, daragoy and TI in which enstetute studied? ;)))) 
It's you joking, or really do not know who the Systems 
Engineering (Remember once again, System engineering and not 
the circuitry - these are two completely different 
specialties)? If you make fun of them, then OK, if not, I fear 
further conversation on this subject is simply not is 
meaningless, because the word "systems engineering" (a section 
of cybernetics) is in each specialized dictionaries. AND net 
programmers have almost no, except that the graduates of 
mathematics, but cybernetics (which include everything 
associated with computers) has long been an independent science.



   Yes, about the user and the lamer you said is true, but we 
talked almost the same. And if you're such a lamer-hater that 
call us lamer, why in the 20 th Spectrofon'e there is 
absolutely No Comments On arhilamerskomu letter Dmitry Glushkov?

Because he has criticized us and not to defend? (I wish you all
nevertheless "resist":))


   Oh-oo-oo-oo, (((And do not you tired of finding fault with 
the words "are comparable to writing their own", well, a little 
heated a bit, but then this is often true. And that's why we 
know Only two of your works? Silently, silently;))?



   And talk about competitiveness in the tone in which
you say it is too early - came just two (!!!) rates against
20. And the geniuses we do not consider myself just tired of 
listening to a The same nonsense about the evil Hacker (by the 
way, but do not you think that Eighteen months ago, you were in 
the same situation that we now? ;)) Scored outraged programmers 
and users of public opinion, the example of users in Moscow (in 
are all close by) or those who saw the computer only yesterday 
and can not compare what is being done, for example, the market 
soft'a for IBM, c the fact that we have. And we criticized just 
that. If you have not forgotten, that in the 2 nd edition, we 
apologize Spectrofon'om a little harsh the first, and always 
and all the criticism begins with the words "we do not like not 
all Spectrofon in general, but only some (!!!) his remarks and 
then we do "Attack" is not the whole magazine (as you did:)), 
and in particular statement, by the way, the word "attack" I 
have used out of respect for your point of view, since we do 
not beat anyone but simply talking about that there is the 
opposite opinion. 


   Well, a little bit about your description of your 
application: 


   1. Spectrofon 666 (Swood of MSHG) - quite a successful 
parody of ALL computer magazines, deliberately written with 
spelling errors (read "the author" in the 666-m). If you think 
that's what we started to spread, then you are deeply 
zabluzhdaeshsya - it has long walks on the Commonwealth and 
became a legend. 


   2. Elite 3 (Firebird, luggage). Yes, you obviously got that 
day on the wrong foot. :))) Titus-then it broke, so once again 
defended the way that all Scorpion'ah it does not work, and 
recognizes only A drive, and you think it's normal? And the 
name of Titov, remember, we do not remove, just finished yet 
and his own. And in the magazine we were talking about the same.



   On this for now. Sincerely, Eugene Miloon.


   P.S. If you finish reading this far and still in a rage, 
then let think about how quickly to distribute your paper in 
Samara. And if you think we'll get for her money and to profit, 
then wrong - even his Oberon we do on a voluntary basis and do 
not get him a penny. 

                  Eugene Miloon / Stars of Keladan
                        FidoNet 2:5057 / 18.73



(C) OLDMAN


   I will comment on the last letter in the next issue - the 
comments to him, you know, you need ... As for RINDEX'a letter, 
I hope, PERESTROIKA SOFTWARE respond, but I must say that, 
according to my sources, the game is almost (or entirely) is 
finished and so is unlikely it will be made any changes ... 

                        Dmitry (OLDMAN)
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