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FROM THE EDITOR: Yuri Gershovich Fleishman was born in 1961 in the city.
Leningrad, in 1984 graduated from LEIS named after. prof. M.A. Bonch-Bruevich by
specialty radio engineer. In the fan movement since 1982,
took part in the creation of the club "MYTH-XX", the initiator of the creation
interregional group for the study and promotion of creativity
Strugatsky brothers "Luden", group coordinator. Fan bibliographer
tastics, has a number of publications, both separately and in co-authorship.
Took part in many fan conventions and creative
projects, in particular - in the preparation of a special issue of the journal "Measuring
nie F", dedicated to the anniversary of A.N. Strugatsky.
Yuri FLEISHMAN
ON THE QUESTION ABOUT THE THIRTEENTH QUESTION
Clip of open letters
His voice seemed strange to me, and I asked why I couldn’t hear...
but a comment.
“Because there will be no comments,” Spiridon said sternly.
- There won't be any more? - I asked.
- No, why not at all? We'll see there.
A. and B. Strugatsky, "The Tale of Troika"
Editorial staff of the magazine "TWO HUNDRED":
Hello, Andrey and Sergey!
1) The ill-fated Thirteenth question of the survey was not intended
to anyone other than Boris Natanovich Strugatsky. What he got
to "Wanderers" and Boris Zavgorodniy - entirely wine (ordeserved
ha) editors. "Everything that is not done is done for the better."
2) Due to the different reactions of the Travelers to the Thirteenth World War
please, I will answer each person separately, and ask you to consider
separate these answers from each other.
3) I didn’t think that I would have to answer the question “By the way, who
Is this Fleishman like this? (“Who are you?” asked Pani angrily
kovsky Balaganov). I do not exaggerate my importance and I know
tness in the fandom, but it never occurred to me that for someone
the personality of the person who expressed the opinion matters, especially
- not only yours. It turns out that it does. For Lazarchuk. Not the point
opinions are a person's personality.
Let's leave Lazarchuk his delusions.
Boris Natanovich Strugatsky:
Dear Boris Natanovich!
It’s a pity that I was not able to convey to you the hurt and pain that
I'm experiencing.
After talking with you, I myself began to doubt the existence
What were the reasons for this resentment? Maybe it's people's pie-
tet in front of the Master, maybe this is just a property of my character-
ra - I quite easily accept someone else's point of view. Don't know. But
After our conversations, I, mentally scrolling through your arguments, did not
raised objections to them. Everything seemed simple and clear. But it was
the voice of reason, but the feelings said something completely different. This "Double"
Think, as Orwell called it, is the dichotomy between reason and
very feelingsworries me and makes me try again
justify your position.
A) Who is a “fan” in my understanding? Availability of professional
Ma, from your point of view, it’s not the main thing for me. Here rather more
something else is important... "...fantasy in my heart...", in it
everything. Years... Books read... The joy of communicating with like-minded people
nicknames... For all this I am grateful to science fiction and fandom.
B) Now let's look at the relationship between the Travelers and the fandom.
Seven to ten years ago - very little, or practically no public-
tions, not to mention books, almost complete obscurity and absence
exposure to a wide readership. In contrast to the "external"
him", in the "inner world" - fandom, everything was accurate
on the contrary. Here they were known, read and revered. Interested
dignified and benevolent (one might say reverent) attitude
We automatically transferred our attention to books to the authors themselves.
And to communicate with them, ask them questions and even just face-
howl!..
There are, in my opinion, several reasons for this situation:
- lack of good science fiction in those hopeless years;
- repression by the Young Guard. In Rus' it has always been
sympathetic attitude towards the offended - they were not only “laid down”
under the bunks", but were also elected as people’s deputies and even President
tami. And then these writers were in the position of being offended by evil uncles -
mi and aunts from "MG", Goskomizdat andall kinds of Central Committees;
- Your authority, Boris Natanovich. Now he is still the same for me.
he is tall, but we differ in our assessment of Stolyarov;
- And finally, our seventy-year-old Bolshevik habit
divide everyone into friends and foes. It has eaten into flesh and blood. "Who
If he is not with us, he is against us."
In my opinion, we (the fandom) violated the ancient Testament - “Not
give yourself an idol!”, for which we are now paying.
These writers were quite happy with this state of affairs. What de-
let's say - there were almost no other (SUCH) readers - although this is known
The gentleman did not speak. A blessed picture of universal unity.
For the time being. At the same time, equivalence and equality were assumed.
right (our wild delusion, as life has shown!) of both of you
soy sides.
B) Now re-read the statements of A.M. Stolyarov about his vi-
of the future "Interpresscon" from "Intercom" N4. Everything that happened
neck at Interpresscon-94 it was written in advance exactly according to
points.
Let's move on to the events of Interpresscon-94. How I saw them and what
felt at the same time. I've been waiting for Interpresscon for a whole year. A whole year
I “prepared” myself for a meeting with him, prepared myself for this meeting and
communication with people who are dear to me. "The greatest luxury in
light - the luxury of human communication." Without the slightest hesitation I
laid out money for the contribution. Nothing seemed to be able to darken me
the joy of the upcoming meeting. But it only seemed...The first two days exceeded my wildest hopes. One stood up
the audience moved in unison when presenting the prize to Yaroslavtsev, which
worth it! The mood was high, everyday worries and sorrows
went somewhere far away.
About the “free” add-on to Interpresscon named “Strannik”
I didn’t know then.
At first, the show itself spoiled the mood - absolutely tasteless
and completely alien to the Interpresscon holiday. We were pushing
pretend to present an Oscar or, at worst, a Nicki, get-
It was a pitiful parody, which is not the worst thing - the majority
The fans treated it accordingly and had a blast. But
here are the results of the awards... They were, to put it mildly, discouraging -
howling. Have we really stopped understanding anything about science fiction? -
this thought dominated our minds. Does Stolyarov really think
that his Epistle to the Corinthians is better than The Devil Among Men? Vi-
Dimo, yes - looking at the triumphant face of the laureate there is no doubt
had to. As the rude but sincere Korneev from “Pone-
businessman": "Someone is lying. Either you or all the laws of nature. I'm ve-
ryu into the laws of nature, everything else changes."
It was then that many people came up with the idea of “self-rewarding” members.
new jury and its sponsor - the publishing house "Terra Fantastica",
which (thought) has not been refuted, despite numerous
counter-arguments.
What struck me most about all this and offended me wasneglected
the attitude with which the founder and the jury treated us: according to the principle
"Whatever, it'll do for the countryside!" And in general, "be up-
are free that for their money they were allowed to communicate with the “celestial being”
mi" and even saw a "showdown" among them" - this is from a letter from E. Ge-
vorkyana. I agree with the words of Lev Vershinin: “...the jury of the Stran-
Nika "...tried to sanctify the tsatska with the halo of "Sidorkon"...";
"...it's not the fans who impose their opinions on the writers, but the other way around..."
How do you order, Boris Natanovich, to respond to threats from the state?
Ouspensky’s day about “the next horse, singing in chorus and discussing-
of Zelazny's novel"? "The Horses Come to Horses", for all participants, but from -
not for someone to demonstrate their “superiority”
control" over the other participants in any way and in any way
any form.
I hope that the threats of a number of members of the "Wanderer" will be ignored in
future "Interpresscon" and fandom were pronounced in a polemic
will fall away and remain only words. Otherwise, it will be worse
there will be only Fantasy.
But this, Boris Natanovich, is not all:
- Stolyarov’s report, which questioned my common sense and
the ability to independently understand what is read;
- a press conference at which I was not allowed to speak;
- well, and of course, answers to the THIRTEENTH question. This was the last
low point, final chord.
About the report by A.M. Stolyarov I can say one thing: arguing one and a halfhour about the inadmissibility of “marginal” forms of communication and dissemination
discussion, in the final speech the speaker allowed himself to
but unacceptable expressions addressed to the opponent. "What is allowed by Yupi-
teru, the bull is not allowed"? In the best traditions of previous years, when
any disagreement with the General Line was declared “state-
ny crime" and was immediately punished: in the thirties-fifties-
years - executions and concentration camps, and in later years, "liber-
"real times" - deportations outside the country (with deprivation of citizenship
Danstvo), and, if you're lucky, psychiatric hospitals. This opponent has been proclaimed
"enemy of the people" without the right to shake hands. Apparently I was “lucky”
lo": so far they have just declared me an idiot (look, Boris Nathan-
HIV, Stolyarov’s answers in “Two Hundred-B”). Obviously the next step
This Gentleman - which I am not at all surprised - will be required
deprivation of my “citizenship” and “expulsion” from Interpresscon.
And after that be surprised at the fans’ insults and insults?!
P.S. Boris Natanovich, I specifically found and re-read the novel
Dumas. So, either you forgot the book, or you deliberately lied.
The phrase you quoted belongs to Porthos, who actually
I really didn’t understand anything, and I didn’t want to understand. As for-
Xia Saint-Aignan, with whom you compared yourself, then at first he acted
really didn’t understand what de Bragelonne wanted through Porthos
(when talking about moving).However, when the conversation touched upon
ka and, even more so, a portrait, then de Saint-Aignan, how completely
it is clearly written in the text, "...felt that he had an epiphany -
"
Appeal to the readers of the magazine "TWO HUNDRED":
Gentlemen!
What happened at Interpresscon? I will answer with the words Strugat-
kih:
"NOTHING ESPECIALLY INTERESTING HAPPENED TO YOU!" (ZMLDKS)
On the one hand, Stolyarov’s attempts to “modernize”
"Interpresscon" (see "Intercom" N4). On the other: "...Now
It turned out that there were no friends either. That is, there are still some, but already
imperiously begin to lay claim to copyright freedoms, dicta-
give the author a style of behavior and show him, like Galileo, the weapon
diya of torture... So the conflict arose, and it was not at all the fault of the writer
lei, who just wanted to establish their own professional
cash bonus..." And one more thing: "...It’s another matter that in past ordeals -
Stvakh was born "a new social community of people, nice friends
friend, co-thinking and empathetic"... This community is what we need
take care..."
Nice words. They just diverge from business. And the reality is
va that we were used and thrown away like corresponding rubber
whole product.
"No good deed ever goes unpunished..."
To Andrey Evgenievich Chertkov:
Andrey! He who knows how and wants to work publishes and, most importantly,
new, sells published. Who doesn'tknows how to always find excuses
your inability and unwillingness.
Nikolay Yuryevich Yutanov:
God forgive me, Kolya! I am not God, it is not in my competence to forgive!
I understand that when you established the prize, the last thing you thought about was me and...
people like me (the phrase “Fandom and its opinion don’t interest me!” I’m for-
remembered for a long time and, as you can see, for a long time), Thirteenth question for you
just funny. I just want to note that for us science fiction is not
female, and we never blocked her from anyone with our arms, shoulders-
mi and authorities, as the Wanderer did.
Maybe the money spent on "The Wanderer" would have been better spent...
to publish another book - a novel by Rybakov, for example?
To Andrey Mikhailovich Stolyarov:
Mr. Stolyarov!
Sit and think about what might offend other people, never
harmful. Why don't you do this at least once in your life?
In what circles are generally accepted and decent terms that easily fall into place?
from your lips: “complete idiots”, “stupid articles”, “hearsay gal-
lucinations", "lost mind", "clinical cretinism"? Where ya-
The aplomb and categoricalness with which you endure is the norm.
sit down “verdicts” and create “rankings”? Where in honor is despised
tion to those who disagree with you? Who can afford such neglect?
attitude towards writers who are much more famous and beloved by the reader -
mi, what are you? I'm not talking about the notorious Harrison and Le Guin,repeatedly awarded "less prestigious" than "Wanderer"
awards and having written books and their circulation is an order of magnitude greater
Yours. I would like to remind you of your phrase at the laureate press conference -
tions during Interpresscon-93, and then repeated several times
in different places: “Bulychev and Krapivin are mediocre writers”
teli!" This is conceit! Meanwhile, not to mention the circulation and
publications, these authors have clubs of devoted fans, which
You weren’t, aren’t, and I strongly suspect you never will be! For you
This is certainly not an argument. And finally, how do you want to treat
a person who allows himself a completely boorish behavior towards
to the enemy in a dispute?
By the way, about your books... Opinion of experts (not literary
critics, but booksellers): as a commercial product they are not
are not of the slightest commercial interest.
About my chastity. I somehow got used to it a long time ago that even simple
conversation about intimate aspects of someone else’s life, especially in writing
any mention is a sign of elementary bad manners.
In addition, the “chaste Fleischmann” never allowed himself to
address of the opponent of the expressions “What a stupid head you have to have...
Only an idiot can assume... Nonsense bursting out of someone...
Such nonsense... Stupid questions..."
In turn, I will ask: what kind of genius mind should one have,
to seriously hope that what was plannedaction called
not only will “The Wanderer” not cause any objections, but also
will receive thunderous applause and earn honor, respect and admiration
Interpresscon audience? But this was undoubtedly planned!
The organizers’ irritation with the fans’ reaction is a direct confirmation of this.
waiting.
Do you seriously believe that science fiction fans have overcome
thousands of kilometers and state borders were left so that any
to play with half-naked girls in a mediocre show, and
Your happy look with a bronze block in your hands?
Well, Mr. Stolyarov doesn’t understand. Well, please explain to him.
Please, he doesn’t understand.
Andrey Gennadievich Lazarchuk:
Andrey Gennadievich!
I have always believed that the feeling of one's own exclusivity is
natural for any normal person. Each person is unique
red-hot in its essence. On the other hand, I also always believed that
this uniqueness (exclusivity) does not give anyone the right to consider
others are worse than yourself. As it turned out, these elementary (for me) uses
The mud is by no means a priori for you.
Apparently, suspicion follows from the same properties of your character
in a dishonest game when voting on a large form on Interpress
skone". I don’t understand at all why Andrei Nikolaev even op-
I was happy. Campaigning for any work is an inalienable right
any participant. The same inalienable right of every voter
go - yourselfmake a choice. Who do you take the fans for, if you count
Do you think that they can change their minds to please Nikolaev?!
I would like to inform everyone that your latest book, “St.
whelping month Rin", despite the heroic efforts of the publisher,
as well as several St. Petersburg and Moscow bookselling companies
(far from the worst in their “craft”, I dare to assure you) bestseller
I didn’t become a ler at all. Of course it's for sale - I won't lie,
but not at the same speed as apparently planned by the author and
publishers. But - the most awarded!..
Vyacheslav Mikhailovich Rybakov:
Dear Vyacheslav Mikhailovich!
The main thing for me is that for you, unlike
some of your colleagues in “The Wanderer”, the need for
the reader's (and fandom's) ability for the writer. ("Still
Damn it, I don't do masturbation, I write for people, not
for self-pleasure." F. Sorokin "Lame Fate"). Thank you for
this!
As for everything else, here I agree with you -
I can’t bother. And regarding “water speaking to fish” and other
gim questions. No one is going to dictate to writers how to write
sat. I just want to remind them that they are not “celestials”, but fa-
We are not rednecks and idiots.
No Oscar or Nebula ceremony without my permission.
insults. Because it doesn't affect me in any way. But
"Interpresscon" meconcerns, and quite seriously.
“How can several people, having made this or that decision, insult
beat other people with it who are not involved in the process of developing this decision
not the slightest relation? To be honest, I'm even embarrassed
explain such basic things to a professional historian. Well
For example, three men gathered in Belovezhskaya Pushcha. Poside-
and made a well-known decision, the consequences of which we and
we feel it now. How many millions are offended by this decision?
happens in our country? And all of them had not the slightest relation
knowledge about the process of developing and accepting it. This is high politics.
There, quite often, a few people decide the fate of millions. And
It’s good if people are only insulted by the decision made. Or maybe
and simply destroy... We can move on to the prose of life. In some
a long time ago, several figures from the Leningrad KGB considered
they said that the story of the then young V. Rybakov “Trust” is
anti-Soviet and made a decision: to withdraw the story, with the author pro-
conduct a preventive conversation. I think that towards acceptance and implementation
you, Vyacheslav Mikhailovich, also had no
no relation, but if you say that you were not offended,
then I simply won’t believe you.
The argument you made about films and neighbors who came running
come on, let me consider it a failure. I am forced - so as not to repeat -
to rush, to ask you to pay attentionto the quotes above
from a letter from Lev Vershinin. Everything turns out exactly the same
mouth."
And the acceleration of free fall in the same “same” fans, like all other
humanity will somehow endure it. Several millions have endured
years (or how many people exist there?), they will endure a little more -
How long do we have left there? It could have been less - I always
I wanted to fly a little... What about you?
Evgeny Yurievich Lukin:
Dear Sir, Evgeniy Lukin!
Thank you for the duel offer. It was explained to me here, I myself am talking about
I forgot that a challenge to a duel was sent only to equals. I'm do-
I think you did it involuntarily, but thank you anyway!
However, I would like to remind you that according to dueling rules, the choice
place and weapons remain with the offended party. Regarding
first, then I think the venue for Interpresscon-95 will suit
both of us. And according to the second, everyone chooses what is closer to him. I'm in
In this case - I'm a bookseller - closer to packs of books. Poe-
So we’ll ask Sasha Sidorovich to bring a car of books, and then -
possible options:
- loading and unloading operations until complete exhaustion;
- throwing these very packs at each other;
- distribution of books among those present (not free of charge,
naturally), in order to financially help the organizers.
What will suit you?
Please also inform me in advance about the number of seconds,because
There may be a need for several machines.
I, however, prefer something else. Let everyone do it
your business: You and your wife write new works, like a fan - I
I read them (with pleasure!), our company publishes them (there is no such
lania?!), and as a merchant, I sell this book. This is where you can
arrange a duel (or better yet, a competition - by nature I am a man of peace -
ny!) - who can handle their job faster!
To Eduard Vachaganovich Gevorkyan:
"I WOKE UP! FLEISCHMAN"
To Igor Vsevolodovich Mozheiko (Kir Bulychev):
Dear Igor Vsevolodovich!
I am not a “giant of Russian thought” and not a “local party
figure" (by the way, Fleishman is not a first name, but a surname, but my name is
Yuri Gershovich).
Your assertion is not true (or you simply forgot)
the belief that we do not know each other. We've known each other for quite some time. B
my library has a book by Kir Bulychev with a personal dedication
author Yu. Fleishman. My archive contains correspondence with you. Co-
Of course, you don’t remember the conversation with me on one of the “Aelites”, but in
she remains in my memory... So we know each other.
And by the way, I completely agree with your words said in
"Wanderer" address.
But I decide to agree with the words spoken to me.
I really can’t. Are you really so ill-mannered that you allow
you seem to insult yourself twicea complete stranger - according to Va-
in our words - a man, with a careless gesture sticking an absolute
but baseless and unfair labels. From someone, but
I didn't expect this from you. Don't want to apologize?
To the Lord Wanderers:
I'm not going to tell you who to give the award to and for what.
"Wanderer". This is your business, professional. But I would like to replace
tit: by continuing to treat fans as pieces of furniture, you
Someday during the presentation you may find yourself in an empty hall. Or -
For a fee, you will hire extras.
And one more thing: after the first presentation of “The Wanderer,” the writers Bulychev,
Loginov, Stern, Shchegolev publicly declared their reluctance to nominate
to apply for this award. Don't be afraid that their example will be followed
others, and will only your names be in the nomination?
Yuri Fleishman
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