KrNews #14 22 сентября 2000

Discussions - ZX Spectrum (childhood). Memoirs of a kuban.ru.

         ZX Spectrum (childhood)



  Maxx'y2k


  Well for starters - a little "about what was happening."

  It was in the "Internet" ... :)

  "Unknown" I have some wind on the
www.kuban.ru, and more precisely to the local
"Forum", which later decided to settle Krasnodarskie 
spektrumisty so or otherwise having access to Internet'u,

and not only they ...


  And now, after "year":) was made
decision on disclosure of the information accumulated at this 
forum on For n-dtsati months ...


  And of course, do the "discount" on
that not all the "Flag" is still
have a working ZX ... Well, some do "at the hands strayed ..." 
;) 


  In order not to "complicate" the text of the technical
information had been "omitted" creation date
message and your e-mail message to create this ...

  The very same text was just "converted"
format from html to txt, all the same "logical" content 
remained unchanged. Well will understand ...



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    subj: ZX Spectrum (childhood)


0.koe-who @ where-to.tam>
ZX Spectrum (childhood)

1.Maxx>
Sam you're a fool and a stupid joke at cha ...
Probably just do not understand what is going on ...
A (childhood), you know where you ...

2.KAA>
Statistics say: CPU Z-80
(Which is in the ZX-Spectrum'e) is the most
popular in the history of protsessorostroeniya. And recently 
the company Zilog (which it has developed and released) released

its improved version.


3.Maxx>
moreover, read about it you can at
www.zilog.com A Spectrum-Forever!

4.MadMan>
Yes, he lived Spectrum, Spectrum alive Spectrum
all of us to survive, and the grave of three-dimensional Dizzy 
chase:) What he does not think zaginatsya shows a huge number 
of sites dedicated to the great and incomparably 
PiSiNesovmestimomu Komputeru! One Black Crow that costs. And if

mention the ZX-Net, which also lives
including Krasnodar.

5.Neizvestny>
Speccy - this thing! And earlier today.
The only pity is that late in the day appeared 8 ^ (

6.Bulvinkl>
URAAAAAAAA!

7.Maxx>
Nichrome are currently late -1982 year (!)
And when there Toda too early?

8.Neizvestny>
Yes it is in the sense we have a scoop too late
It's only been a couple years and the PC all bend.

9.Maxx>
at 89, when the ZX began appearing in our
country
Bole less mass of PCs we have not dreamed of ... then went on a 
triumphal procession ..(!) a PC - say above, that the pier will

Here is juzat period.

10.MadMan>
Yeah ... Cool it was time ... Univrmage,
remember placer tapes with an infinite raznobraziem lying 
around ... I was dragged by force from the counter ...

And I resisted ...
Yes ...
And what a joyous sense of feel
at successful pyatiminuinoy download cool
Gamez.
2Maxx: You crawl over the weekend at his
rightful place under the bridge?

11.Protsessor>
! ZX Spectrum-HAPPY CHILDHOOD!
64 kb memory
of these videos -4 kb
ROM 16 KB
Well so on ................
happiness is not obscured wInDowS and iNtEl
and loaded as-bystrooooooooooo .......

12.Maxx>
MadMan clear case!
Processor in memory ZX was 16/48/126/256
/ 512/768/1024/2048 remarked that tsyfry 64
in this series, no;) and video so vAApsche
of life has always been 6912 bytes, I mean
6.75 KB ....
and you tried to work on the 2048 ZX c
screw / mouse / zv.kartochkoy ...???

13.U4>
It was kewl - all on Speccy will
nilly were hackers!
Whole tr-dos, asm, everyone knew briefly.
And on the PC Stokoe shit any twists -
that the horseradish will deal.
And most importantly, HRC Wait a mostly
adapts to any lamer, there
lamersky software with a bunch of stupid questions
before as something to remove rubbish different
there mezhdumordiya painted, windoze
and all this type.
Normal people, such things are not needed.

14.U4>
Also, IMHO schA all programmers to
fucking lazy (on PCs). In fact,
why do something to optimize, accelerate
etc. -Easier to say "our program
requires at least p-IV-1200 and 12GB RAM,
and if no, then go ... go to hell. "
A recent bells and whistles on the Speccy?
(Software) Digital music (but comments)
multicolor (one box 4 color)
x-color (each point with a different color!)

  etc ...
And all without the upgrades. No, I said, if
ptsshnye programmers at least 1 / 2 were both
Spectrum, the above P166/16M do not need
it would be. :)

15.MadMan>
And as for the hardware revision - Covox,
General Sound, screws ..
And the magazines that are on the Speccy ...
On the PC these are not found.
Until now reading ... Recently watched
Paper magazine about PTsshnye Gamez, to
still in shock from the system requirements.
And most importantly, the schedule did not supernavorochenogo, 
and requires a minimum of P2, and 64 RAM. Koshmarr!


16.Petsa>
BK 11M cooler!
tembolee nash Soviet comp!

17.Maxx>
in BC still party held ...
but all are on the ZX more software, and payalsya
he was on his knees at home as opposed to BC ...
U4> And you forgot to mention "curb
effects "(!) any inscription on BORDERe
Screen ...

18.U4>
2Maxx: Ah, yes, still on my mind was full of our toy mode that 
can be See pictures full screen (with border), where the level 
will pass. I really not tested because I was then

"Krasnodar", and under it a little Che from such
effects plowed, but like the way it was.

19.fil>
And what could be a three-byte parallel port I / O get up, using
Spectrum as a control computer ....
I once concocted a garland on the tree, each
bulb which was ruled by its bit
with the port.
Flagellum stout turned out, but the effects
...., M-da!

20.Serg>
That's parallel port (though not 3
byte, and 3 byte bus), it hayany
higher Krasnodar (vesch!) with this port!
I do not know, as anyone, but I prefer
was to use it as a controller,
meshing different peripherals. Dozens of drivers for different 
printers, the use of in those. processes (2-3 sec. complete

acceleration capability of high-speed
Engine in graphical form with additional calculations, it is 
generally plugged one wiring to magn.vhodu) INTEL about the 
market went (there still so eagle painted, there is help with 
the scheme and process indicator in the form filled out by

rectangle)-MY!
Yes and how many different possibilities ....
(Even the telephone directory on the Spectrum
printed!).
Spectrum collected only occasionally, and little
(Total units 20-30), but with
Wash the port bought the apartment.
So that memory, we can say is the most
good.
Pisyuk-on some heartless: feed him, and he asks to eat more!
And where we entot G. Blin will lead?

21.MadMan>
Yeah .. Such diversity and number of
software, which is on Speccy, no one
wheelbarrow is not found. Current, I can not understand why
about Speccy spoken in the past tense?
Yes, still no one know that there is a genius
our times Sir Clive Sinclair is doing -
such as planned Spectrum 2000?

22.VSE who had a Spectrum>
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!
URA Spectrum!

23.Maxx>
Blah, if you do it "had"-in the past
time, then do not generalize it to massshtaba "other", I've got 
it and now works and it is often exploited.


25.Dighor>
Ah, well done lads!, Was pleased to read the correspondence and 
make sure that he was alive vsezhe baby spec! and who heard 
about the Amiga? very interesting stuff gets up and all

due to the closed architecture, most of the programs on her 
face off kilobytes, and the 3D spinning no worse than a stump! 
who I wonder at the soap scam


26.Dima>
Yeah, ZX is the very best thing, and flexible architecture, a 
blind piece of metal, and immediately soft under it wrote!

Just lovely!
You can get up all that Hosh!

27.Maxx>
Dighor: Amiga (!)-I am interested in Amiga
(!) Kinh, pls.
2MadMan: :-) Well, you "understood"

30.MadMan>
2MAXX: about 27 .. To be honest it is not
understood: (
That's all say it on television put the type of cool cars, all 
there Silicones, and I remember long ago, at the local TV, 
bought a Spectrum and made them Background sorts, advertising, 
ads ... And yet it looked not bad.


31 .:-)>
Looks like some local TV studios
they still stand :-)

32.ABC>
Dighor-I am also interested in Amiga Kinh,
Throw in the mail please information.

33.Maxx>
ABC: c TV:) soap to me if
interested ...

34.Neizvestny>
ZX-best Computer

35.REM>
And who will take to repair SPECCY. I've been
already on the platform of PC.
A house lies dead SPECCY.
Nostalgia .....

36.KET>
Spectrum is nonsense, it's just ridiculous, and, in general I 
think about this city. and we are not talking (but still in the 
Dizzy played).


37.Maxx>
* "KET-playing with the city .." - What is it
abomination ... Fu ...

38.Maxx>
SEM: Can suggest a number of "seats" in the
a city where you may be able to help.
write ... incidentally, and that the comp?
in the sense-TR-DOS, 128?

39.Maxx>
For all interested! Today, he entered the disc with new 
missions to the "Black Crow "!

+ CD with full editor of the most
missions!
so contact me at radiorynok.Poka that the number of copies is 
limited .. ;) 

40.inzhener>
I remember, I have a lot of them once remade.
He graduated at the ATM Turbo. At one time, ZX
was pretty good.
Yes, and now to PC to simple puzzles
do not drive, you can use. A snobbery
- Is always bad.

42.DiMeDrOl>
nothing better to do I got my ZX_80
and for a long time being loaded ..... fuck it
need?? NOSTALGIA!!

43.Maxx>
and de are you ZX-80 then took it?

46.MadMan>
People, and I have something pereklinulo,
I sat down for Spectrum's elite.
Yes so jammed, that until now to break away from Gamez can not. 
Doing the same before rulezz!

A "Black Crow" - is above all
rulezov.
Thank you for that premnogouvazhaemomu
Mednonogovu!

47.Maxx>
MadMan: See my message to N39

49.ZX Spectrum>
BETTER Cpektrumovskoy ELITE nothing

50.Maxx>
ZX Spectrum: but at least you remember-when
She last played / seen ..

51.RB>
and you NETHER EARTH played?

54.Maxx>
RB: while you're in Nether Earth + 11 new levels
played? (!)

55.Viper>
Hto there spectral smear?
You lamer pizishnye no ... but his
Hemp is not seen and you think, that your
rotten stump-cool!
Breakup, you are the Amiga, or Mac-saw?
(At the Amiga to write)

56.KVG techNoLOgy>
Who soapbox was not classified,
Type some hell knows where, sent
soap.
Yes, Speccy - this thing! Still
yuzayu!
I can send and others who will tell
address.
My email is not sekrechu such so I am a man
... While ...

57.olow>
spectrum - a force which only one
"Stalker" is ......

58.Maxx>
olow: you mean the game or
STS by Stalker? :)

59.Maxx>
Great! Spectrum "alive" and in the future
century / millennium (!)

60.Maxx>
01/01/2000! I was here first "in this century"
! :)

61.zxxxxxx>
Hey, lovers of antiques who needed momentum
with the drive, diskettes, tapes,
joysticks. can anyone for a collection?
mylte rem@kuban.net

62.Andi>
SysOp wrote it, Spectrum ...
Everything is so well written, as many a tear breaks,
Here I sit on the ZX, the message you write
(Just kidding, I have Amiga, Intel as he said, because-OutSide).
So what am I, but ...
Network in Krasnodar lived and will live!
Willing to invite into the ranks of KrnZXNet.
For details on MAXXa radio market.

64.KVG techNoLOgy>
Happy New Year! NEW SPECTRUM!
They are true ... it is real!
Can somehow meet, lovers
Speccy? Ali, I am not in a theme? ...

65.KVG techNoLOgy>
Happy New Year! NEW SPECTRUM!
They are true ... it is real!
Can somehow meet, lovers
Speccy? Ali, I am not in a theme? ...

66.Maxx>
hard that Mademoiselle market to come?

67.KVG techNoLOgy>
People! But KGD-Schnick not sleep!
Look at the forum in about Hobby
Krasnodar Game Developers.
Idea is really cool! Until the end of January
connection to the KGD is free, you
pay only for the conversation ...
(Sshutiroval, not angry) ...

68.KVG techNoLOgy>
Aw, Snap, live.
2Maxx: you're on Turgenev?
I'll just recognize you are not Mechelle
be. I can send photos. ;)

69.Maxx>
Figley and "us" to recognize?
you're in the market long ago was that?
Tama table "Everything for the ZX-Spectrum",
and beside me somewhere:))
Well, at kraynyak y MadMana ask ... :)

70.Viper>
Maxx: You're on my letter is not received?

71.Andi>
KVGtechNoLOgy: If you still near the plate
with the inscription "Zx Spectrum" will see people
which nemeryannom sharing a bottle of beer, which is being 
driven all sellers what would they say no interfered with, 
know-it WE. Incidentally, last night called SysOp of

Peter interessovalsya situation with
Speccy in Krasnodar, but its main
question: "Where KrNews?!" :)))

72.Maxx>
Andi::) By the way, this is really urgent "issue" ...

73.Matvey>
And I, at one time gathered ZX Sp to drive, I configured it, 
but BP did not enough. Suddenly, for the PC and moved about

forgot everything. All statements certainly do not
read only the first few.
Nostagiya ...
Maybe all the same finish?

74.Maxx>
Food for Thought: New updates
Room KrNews -11.

75.MadMan
2Maxx: Thank you received.
Emulyator I would jump for joy ..
I'm with him. I already suspected
about neradostnom end Krnyus.
But no, still alive, still alive ..

76.Andi
MadMan: Why else??
B. You gentlemen have not jumped with emulators,
Wikipedia and write ... ;)

77.Dighor>
Hit the road in the interests of the Council
Zilog.com or ru, I do not remember exactly ...

78.Shadowman/UNiT FiVE>
Well, you finally can ohreneli ... The holy of holies ..
Good old Speccy ... I have it very
living together on a nearby table with the PCs.
128k + trdos + AY + modem. Tale ... And there was no
week, even once it did not include,
did not play, for example, in the good old
Target Renegade ...
But one thread of ptsshnikov Elite by Speccy
seen??
Oh you ...
By the way, a huge hello to Krasnodar
ZxNet-MAXX, ViPER, ANDi ....

79.Maxx>
Vah! Shadow "turned up:)
Hello, hello!

80.Narkom>
Her clever game where to get it
for PC-type BOLDERDASH!
very grateful for your response on soap

81.KVG techNoLOgy>
I went by Turgenev, I saw a sign
ZX Spectrum, already frightened to approach
with some issues such as:
"Does anyone know Maxx'a?"
This is of course a joke, just this once
I was there as an observer.

82.Maxx>
KVG techNoLOgy::) are not so we
"Scary" ... :)

83.Viper>
Shadowman: Stas, where are you lost?

84.Maxx>
lost again ... , (

85.MadMan>
2Andi:-If it were not troklyatoy session
yes it would be about, then .. And so ..
If that happens it directly to you.
By the way, here I am still can not understand:
if the PC-PiSishnik if Specchia
then Sinklerist, and if I'm on a PC
Speccy emulator live, what emulyatorschik?
Forum ... Here is where you can meet the legends
Krasnodar sinklerizma .. Kool ..

86.Maxx>
Mad-emulyatorschik:)

87.Saboteur
Ah! nostalgia !....
recently downloaded the emulator spekruma,
Gamez pieces commercials 40:) pulled from the soul! In Dizzy 
porulyal in sabotera ... kewl! A PC-he really dead yakoy some 
soul- does not warm! ZX-RULEZ!


88.MadMan>
2Maxx: gazetku rulnoy out.
I am terribly pleased. A paper VTS'a,
so just do avaricious tear dislodged. By the way,
such as K. Sinclair wanted to make a new
Spectrum. Thread who have heard about this?
Made or not?

89.Maxx
MadMan: Well, the fact that he "wanted" him
do - at a KrNews 10 is ...
but if he did it - about it,
so far, history is silent ...

90.Andi>
Incidentally, the Speccy, but KrNews, there is still
a lot of cool newspapers from other cities,
from which finally can cry, you can:)
If anyone should, please contact ...

91.MadMan
Yeah. And in addition to newspapers and magazines there are,
which tend to occasionally indulge
us to their publication. But still,
such an abundance of electronic media can
boast only Speccy.

92.Viper>
Just recently one came Rush # 2

93.Maxx>
left Nicron 116

94.Andi>
Most articles in KrNews 12 ...

95.GAS 13>
Your universal optimism happy
Here are just KrNEWS 11 were as one
big bug, which consists of a large number of
small (no one noticed 2 identical
article, for example). For those newspapers are not
never seen it may well, but
people who are in the know at Speke me
understand.
Here are 12 wait should be good, because
something in terms of organization of the newspaper
still happen.
So wait, write ...

96.Kurt/UNiT-5>
> Maxx What's new in general to the Speccy?
You're in the market is stable, the Army did not
raked? :-)

97.Andi>
Unwell MAXX, the flu is rampant ...
And incidentally who knows how the fees for retraining 
otmazatsya, I've 6 years as served, and go again, even for 10 
days do not hunt (they went with his army, I

and a nice place).

98.DS>
Once was and I ZX, rather
"Momentum." I remember, there was nothing,
I dig it all Microkhim memory and RU5
put in place are RU7.
As it is not surprising, but the complex continued to
work like nothing happened:)

99.Maxx>
Andy: Figure out there
Everything is even simpler - proskvozilo "
Go to market something ..

100.Maxx>
Andy: Figure out there, things are even simpler - proskvozilo 
"Go to market something .. 

101.Maxx>
Kurt! Great:)
Yes like b bad enough ...
Heard by the way: F. Lord is going to "us"
visit in late February / early March ...

102.Viper>
Maxx: What truth?

103.Neizvestny>
Tell me the address where you can
merge this Kr News, but I also read
I want to. Or is he not "jump"? :)

104.Maxx>
Unknown: "scratch" ...
http://www.chaosite.com/upload/incoming/
Vt / htm / index.htm ...
or write

105.Maxx>
Viper: Well this is it I said so himself ...

106.Kurt/UNiT-5>
Maxx> yes Fantom Lord is going to have
since November, but still could not reach :-)
Tell me what's new,
but there is no time to get into the market,
All work ...

107.Bizon>
Yes guys .... in his time, Bill Gates
great grandmother threw out to Z80
did not develop further ...
In general, me and myself, this system
not like with a combined bus
address / data-only Hemorrhoids.

108.VTS:)>
Hi everyone!
So I virtually went into the 'Net;)))
MadMan: Why are you crying from my articles?

109.MadMan>
2 VTS: On happiness ...
That someone else has not lost optimism ..
Incidentally while some thread of party are scheduled to
next millennium?

110.GAS 13>
2 MadMan: Of course!
And they will clearly lower than in 1999.
Virtual - Millenium approaches
end, now is the vote, the real
Millennium will be held by the Belarusians in my opinion,
CC'000, 2 outlines some of the bourgeoisie ...
Read more about this in the Insanity 4
and Born Dead # 0F.

111.Neizvestny>
Yes, downloaded, read ...
What can I say-ok (especially pinned assaults on the english-as 
opposed to Scenergy perhaps? :-)).

And another thing, always wanted to ask:
Which magazine / newspaper writes about the implementation
of an effect on the SP, and in general
gde about it can read (websites ETC ..)?
Or maybe you just born with this knowledge? :) Because 
everything around such cool, everyone knows all sorts of demos 
deme, and Nowhere on this (effects, etc.) is not written (or, I 
did not see) ... :)))) 

112.GAS 13>
Unknown: In recent years, this
is specialized is engaged in Demo or Die
by Scene.Vyshlo 2 nomera.A at all in any
journal is, only smaller.


           to be continued ...
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