Sinclair Club #03
19 июня 2000 |
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Paradox 2000 - Clash of the Titans: The dispute Kolotova Sergei / Serzh Soft Celine Dimitri / Phantom Lord and Victor / MOT on how to do demos.
Clash of the Titans (C) Cusick / Sinclair Club Dispute Kolotova Sergei (Serzh Soft), Selina Dmitry (Phantom Lord) and Victor (M.O.T.) It all started that late in the evening the day before the festival told Serzh Soft I own cunning plan, which was: to accuse a group of ACCEPT CORP in poor code density and argue that you can not DWIS16Kb special effort to turn a 4k intro. From the conversation it became clear that this intention was fueled not flattering feedback to the group COMPUTER RATS GROUP (hereinafter CRG). The newspaper was Born Dead published a report about the festival Paradox'99, in which the Phantom Lord criticized DIVE 16k intro from the aforementioned group. Serzh Soft respects the CRG and certainly not could not leave this situation without attention, more so had the opportunity to investigate on the spot. That's what the result. First Day S> Let's sit down or something ... M> can be in your own words to say? K> In what sense? M> B forward ... That is to say it there. K> Sure. You read my interview, I was there only removed: tyrrr, pyrr, myrrr ... S> Do not get out! M> Write everything! K> So after reading would be awkward! M> Incidentally, the larger the mat, the more interest. (They all laughed ...) M> Seriously, I'm telling you, when we Odyssey released, so it was. P> Or, let's interview in Born Dead'e ... S> Same in Heresy, Demiurge Ash loves pomatyukatsya. K> (referring to the group ACCEPT CORP) You brought a new issue of your publication Odyssey? P> None. M> Just about everything ... K> Yes, sorry, the last number, which I saw, called Odyssey # 8. P> The latter was the eleventh edition, look at Internet. S> What has happened ten Odyssey'ev? M> Eleven newspapers from # 0 through # 10. S> And where are they? Where to get them? P> Y MMA'shnika there. S> Shit, MMA'shnik nafig, though, would say! We talked so that Serzh forgotten main reason for our conversation and I nothing left to do as remind him about it. K> Okay, okay. I have to Serzh Soft'a you issue. S> A-ah! A-ah! As you so kodite? What a garbage? That your 16k intro, which exhibited in Paradox, you can stuff in 4 kilobytes! P> You tell him. (Points to M.O.T 'a). S> No, no! I'm talking about the intro, which exhibited at Paradox'99. P> What is it?? A-ah! S> What are you writing? Frankly, LAZHOVO! P> And what are you going to shove in the 4k? S> Well, there you have a code? P> Music occupies 6k nezapakovannaya, is packed 4k, it's time. S> Well, let's say yes. P> Then the schedule, there are two images is, on one it says: "Accept trawling la-la! ". In short, the entire schedule is 2.5kb, and the result is a 4kb code. There was a pause. Serzh froze with a smile on face, he obviously was not expecting such a turn events. One had to go out position and he skillfully shifted to another topic. S> What the fuck you have driven on CRG'shnikov? P> Yes! I'll run into CRG'eshnikov, because they screwed up with his DIVE 16k intro. S> (irritably) Well, come on, tell! K> What is the cause of your raids? P> First, in their intro icpolzuyutsya one and the same effect, absolutely alone and are the same. M> On the basis of one. S> That is as one and the same-? P> It is the effects of clumping of beads. When I came from Paradox'a home, I said, it oherennaya intro. Then I downloaded it from the internet and looked up close. Opinion immediately changed - this is garbage. K> But that did not suit you? P> I am not satisfied with everything! I arranged what comes first. The first effect Well, yes. There are shaped as letters, Tral-la-la. A second garbage at them - this is sleplivanie balls, and then the simplest level. The third effect - again sleplivanie balls, the fourth - also sleplivanie balls, only there in the background Plan something fidgets. Fifth - the same goes variation sleplivaniya. After attending epilogue. K> two screen ... P> Well, of course lousy epilogue. Here, of course, Serzh not resist indignant direct question: S> So you think your intranet should be in first place? P> Yes, because there are five different effects. M> I interrupted Dimych, just say that DIVE is based on the same effect, that is the basis - the same effect. And the fact that we are exposed, not says that somehow we're trying to stand out. What effect do not take it, they all different, completely different basis. Serzh not retreating, trying to explain situation. S> And on the other hand, is a DIVE bad effect of rotation. Yes? Phantom Lord and M.O.T laugh P> If you say about this rotation. S> It is clear, but it's like a bud rotation. P> Serzh, I'm sorry, but this effect is 95 year. Me in 1995 was released intro, where the effect was much steeper Balls are now here and it was not chunk, it was realtime. S> I do not agree with the fact that they have one, and that the same effect, they have no such. P> Well, the two effects, or three ... S> That's where the letters are flying start to illuminated. P> Y-y-y-y, this is garbage! S> reimburse the very first effect of their letters this way highlights. P> letters - it's garbage ... S> Then the letters are flying into the distance and highlights. P> Do you want to compare the effects? Come on comparable. S> But they do not have one effect, you say, several of them. P> They are the simplest. And now look at my effects. What is it starts? S> Same sticking you go. P> nifiga I have is three different stretch completely different. S> Well, the same as the very first effect? P> The first effect - it's a stretch, it is not adhesion. S> The same thing can be done sticking. P> Well, did they. In fact, they all at a simple level, I have more complex. Then, already I go stretch of tunnel, it's time. Then he goes .. What am I going? S> The first stretch and second stretch - one and the same. P> nifiga, nifiga, different tables, they still to be created. Then the third effect, I goes ... What I have on there? M> I already forgot the water, in my opinion. P> A-ah, the water, yes! This effect on the level much higher. S> So he was already at Vav'a, and much steeper. P> It was not so ... Passions flared up, started the discussion other dem and quality of implementation effects even remembered Anamnesis. Nobody wanted yield, each defended their position, interrupting each other and not giving a complete thought through. Fortunately, to fight it did not make it, although maybe someone is fact a little upset. As a result, Serzh gave his idea: WHIM16k stuff in 4k intro. Phantom Lord agreed with the condition that she will bring on SS'000 bottle of champagne, if this idea will be really implemented. Putting on this conversation point, they dispersed. But this does not mean that Serzh Soft and Phantom Lord became irreconcilable enemies. Rather, communication has helped their emancipation and deeper knowledge of themselves-self. Not for nothing says folk wisdom - born in disputes Truth!
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