Revival #01 14 июня 1997

Aphorisms - 10 best quotes from the computer press.

                           APHORISMS



   Well, that's got to answer to someone M.M.A. .. If you've 
read preface, then you know that in 83-cm-line has been 
published my collection of quotations from various 
representatives of the computer press. Section was, in general, 
comic, because sometimes the media come across such gems that 
you can not not pay attention to them others. Pearls are 
gradually accumulated and published in Fido. But one time they 
had accumulated so much that I without thinking twice, has 
published the most interesting in-line. 


   Deservedly took their place and the best phrases Comrade. 
MMA - one of the authors of the Samara electronic journal 
Oberon, - whom I have inadvertently quoted ... 


   Less than a week to the Editor On-line letter came from
agitated MMA, where he was "thoroughly hit on me (actually, it 
was the reason for creating Revival) ... : -7 M.M.A can 
understand - 90% of the articles in the third belongs to Oberon 
his pen - and so he is indignant. Although ... Judge for 
yourself: 



(C) M.M.A / SPEED CO.

It was nice quiet summer evening (6/1/1997) to read fresh
ON-LINE 83, sitting in a provincial village called Samara. It 
was interesting to see the schedule of Moscow BBS, read endless 
series ATM-TURBO and, finally, get to the creepy funny section 
MOSAIC. 

Well what can I say Sergei Novikov? Of course it is good! Make 
such a global work to systematize journal marasmus was probably 
not easy. The only thing I was not clear - as Mr. Novikov, 
known by its correct behavior in the echo ZX.SPECTRUM, so was 
able to boorishly take the printed word ...... 

Amiga, in particular, is good because it is slowly improving.

                                         M.M.A, Oberon, # 3, 
Samara 

This is only half the suggestions! Where the second half of 
Delhi? Although, of course, I did a few bent and had to write 
an "improved" but the right to cut my remarks, Mr. Novikov 
nobody gave! 

Statements 3,4 and 5 (the count goes from the beginning of the 
section in the decimal system) grossly out of context. The 
article, in which I cast these laudatory speech was aimed 
purely at the Samara user. And let glubokochtimy Mr. Novikov 
allow me to decide who to Samara necessary and important. Also 
in the article itself In terms of regional significance of my 
personality. 

The fourth and fifth statements generally repeated. A feeling 
that the editor just sleeping on the job and quietly puts in 
the paper all that he shoved his arm without a proper checking 
and editing. 

I hope that in future such impropriety in the transfer of 
foreign statements by Sergei Novikov did not follow. And the 
task of the editor is not to promote the "attack" (and it was 
just run over), and to publish interesting information paper, 
with quality and proven information. However as a ON-LINE 
reading in all our cities vast country, and for many it is the 
only source of news and information _pravdivoy_! 

And what Sergei Novikov was aimed at thoroughly "run over" - so 
it's quite obvious! If he really wanted amuse readers lyapusami 
from magazines, then it would lead to the following: 

"To get started is to understand that the boot can be a game 
and system. For the first principle is very convenient 
scrolling window ...." 

                              ABOUT ALL / HOW TO BOOT? / Oberon 
# 3 

                          (Tenth from the top screen) MMA / 
SPEED CO. 

Here's a misprint, so a typo! That's what should be specified, 
not cling to the statements do not coincide with your own

opinion. That you do not:


                "I sell computer Pentium 486."

                                 From the regional Samara

                                 issue of "from hand to hand!

I hope nobody was offended. The idea is that a column is good, 
but the contents of the first edition is not very ... 



   Well, hope that no one was offended - silly, because
watering my first mud:), Comrade M.M.A just forced me to
dismantle his letter to pieces, in the best traditions of 
fidoshnyh. And the fact that I was forced to spend their free 
time, I'm nobody I will not forgive. :)


MMA> It was nice quiet summer evening (06/01/1997) read the 
latest ON-LINE 83, sitting in a provincial village under the 
name Samara. It was interesting to see the schedule of the 
Moscow BBS, read endless series ATM-TURBO and, finally, reach 
terribly funny section MOSAIC. 

SN> I am very glad that in villages people are following with 
interest the schedule for the Moscow BBS! ;))) Please accept my 
sincere congratulations! 

MMA> Well what can I say Sergei Novikov? Of course it is good!

SN> Of course! :)

MMA> Perform a global work on the systematization of journal 
marasmus was probably not easy. 

SN> You are right, you're right! But you and myself all have 
probably already knew, so as on information from trusted 
sources (Evgeny Miloon - Paul Atrides - the one who points the 
way (Kvizats Sader), programmer tools (c) Oberon 2), your 
magazine is preparing a similar article on the basis of 
quotations spectrophone, Adventurer'a etc. 

MMA> The only thing I was not clear - as Mr. Novikov,
famous for its correct behavior in the echo ZX.SPECTRUM

SN> behavior as the behavior, nothing special. You is wrong
informed by: ~ (

MMA> could both are rude to treat the printed word ...

SN> In rude? Wow! Quoting the press has become a boorish? 8) An 
interesting detail: when I was a couple of months ago it all 
published in the echo ZX.SPECTRUM, no signs of displeasure on 
the part of Samara was not followed. 

MMA>
Amiga, in particular, is good because it is slowly improving.

                                         M.M.A, Oberon, # 3, 
Samara 

This is only half the suggestions! Where the second half of 
Delhi? Although, of course, I did a few bent and had to write 
an "improved" but the right to cut my remarks, Mr. Novikov 
nobody gave! 

SN> Interesting. But first, give the entire quote (at the 
request of workers): "Amiga, in particular, is good because it 
is slowly improving and coders have the time to stop and 
think:" A whether it is possible for these resources, machines, 
write faster and more compact code. "



   Do you think that I just did not want to waste space on
very long advertising phrase, moreover, that its continuation 
admitted two errors (no question mark and an extra point)? :) I 
will not argue delusional that phrase - each to Mr. may be your 
opinion, but because it would be continued or not, Eventually 
the phrase would not have become smarter. 


   About what you wrote and what was necessary - that's your
problems, but about the need to reduce the sentence, while 
maintaining sense - that's addressed to me as the author of the 
article. After all, who you knows, maybe you're special: you 
write as a phrase in kilobytes with worst jokes in the 
beginning, but everything must be cited. And the rest of the 
sentence - advertising the Amiga! :) Cool, huh? Two birds on 
the spot: Amiga and advertise, and your name printed! ;) 

MMA> Statements 3,4 and 5 (the count goes from the beginning of 
the section in the decimal system) grossly out of context. 

SN> So-so. Maybe he had and all your crazy story where you
pains, how much you mean to his native city, that without
you got there nobody did anything and everything zagnetsya, and 
led autobiography published? Although this section and it would 
fit, but knowing the editor of On-line, I can tell you what to 
print raving in his journal, he does not like, I do not know 
how Eugene Miloon. 

As for the fourth sentence ("Leaving me with the Spectrum will
total collapse of all relations with other cities), then I 
brought her completely; ask not to generalize (c).


MMA> article in which I chased these laudatory speech was aimed 
purely at the Samara user. 

SN> Of course. In Samara you can and listen to (after all, you
in his words, only in Samara, who have absolutely
fresh software, but in the rest of you would have just laughed 
at. I even cared about your reputation, each time mentioning 
that the MMA from Samara. You do not even appreciated my care. 
:) 

MMA> And let glubokochtimy Mr. Novikov allow me to decide who
for Samara necessary and important.

SN> And why did it decide? Necessary and important to Samara 
that the only one who "knows where, what and how much" (c). 


   Did you ever think that your phrase you actually say
that in Samara, only one person knows "where, what and how 
much" and has "absolutely fresh programs from across the 
country? Do you think that you despise that phrase your city? 

MMA> Also in the article talked about the regional significance
my personality.

SN> Wow! Already on the regional! Soon to be "about the 
all-Russian" then click on the world?


MMA> I hope that in future such impropriety in the transfer
others' utterances on the part of Sergei Novikov did not follow.

SN> Wait, wait patiently! But seriously, the proposals to which
you find fault, completely are as follows:

- "Only I have a totally fresh programs from all over
country, but I know where, what and how much, but I can arrange 
any programming process, and then take care of dissemination of 
the program. " 

- "Also, I'm one of the few who knows what and how to
write what programs are needed and what not, etc. etc. "


   Well, wait? You advertised to the entire country? May
be, these proposals have been something that justifies you? 
None. So why did muddy the waters and yell at any innocent

Poor Spirit'ov? ;))

MMA> Yes and the problem of the editor is not to promote the 
"attack" (and it was just run over), and in fact to publish 
interesting information newspaper, from a qualitative and 
verified information. 

SN> About the Chief Editor of On-lin'a you absolutely nothing. 
He did not only made in a newspaper that is not bad, in my 
opinion, a set of citations, but he himself initiated the 
creation of a new category. Headings, looking at your magazine 
that also wanted to create a something similar, which means 
that it was quite decent. 


   About the raids - this is pure slander. How can you accuse 
me run over when I just quoted your humble comments? While I 
will not deny that collide with a person who is intelligence, 
honor and conscience of his city, even pleasant. :)) 

MMA> It may as well ON-LINE read in all the cities of our vast 
country and for many it is the only source of news 

SN> ... do not deny ...

MMA> _pravdivoy_ and information!

SN> Here you are, and confessed himself! It turns out that your 
remarks about the what do you mean a lot for his city - lies! 
It is necessary, a pity; ~ (


MMA> And what Sergei Novikov was aimed at thoroughly "run over" 
- so it's quite obvious! 

SN> Well. Arrived. Why do I need to run into you? Me that there 
is nothing else to do? Maybe for the people of Samara and 
prestigious collide at his demigod, but not for me ... And, 
ultimately, to such objectives could be to use Fido. But to 
prepare material for the paper for the sake of hitting ... I do 
not have a lot of superfluous time. So do not be too conceited.


MMA> If he really wanted to amuse readers lyapusami from 
magazines, then it would lead to the following: 

"To get started is to understand that the boot can be a game 
and system. For the first principle is very convenient 
scrolling window ...." 

                              ABOUT ALL / HOW TO BOOT? / Oberon 
# 3 

                          (Tenth from the top screen) MMA / 
SPEED CO. 

SN> It should be noted that in one of the words of this quote 
was a typo: completely harmless "to" turns into something 
obscene ... :) But, you see that, this newspaper - not Oberon, 
had a word to correct. 


   Now the answer 2MMA: If even your editor, modify
texts did not notice the error, what you ask of me, selectively
viewing most of the articles of Oberon (except those
I did not read it)?

MMA> I hope nobody was offended. The idea is that a good 
column, but Here are the contents of the first issue is not 
very ... 

SN> Oh, how awful! I hasten to fill a gap of one more quote
M.M.A from the third Oberon. This time it's published 
_polnostyu_. 


                          Today I, MMA, I am

                          the sole bearer of all the best but
                          first and progressive in our city.

                                         M.M.A, Oberon, # 3, 
Samara 



   Well, now I will give some new quotes. All of them are from 
podcherpnuty two numbers (2 and 3) Kharkov magazine Faultless. 
On this occasion, though not expected hitting MMA, but no 
matter how angry Joker! :) Let me stress again that all of the 
following phrases - not mine, not my fault that they came out 
not very good ... Moreover, I tried not to pull them out of 
context, to print in full. Moreover, I do not even dare to 
correct errors copyrights ... 


   As far as I could all of this - to judge you, dear readers.


   So, before you a dozen of the best quotes from the computer 
press. 


10 begin with the latter, tenth place:


 In this section, an overview of all sections in the literal 
sense! That the following additions: pokes, top 12 progs  (See 
"Top Ten progs" - SN), text effects  sources, a description of 
games, etc. 

                                          Faultless 2, Mafia


09 on the ninth place again Faultless 2:


 In the next issue will be a description of the following 
games: Vinnipuh,  Dizzy in 1920, Crime Santa Claus, Smagly and 
the like. 

                                          Faultless 2, Mafia


    The most interesting thing that none of this in the third 
Foltlese not 08 watch! But move on to eighth place:




                        Crime Santa Claus:


                         Music: 89%

                         Graphics: 100%

                         Design: 92%

                         Total score: 99%

                              Faultless 2


   As can be seen, the authors have any _ochen_ bad at math, or
they wanted to raise the prestige of friends - guys from the 
ETC. 


07 The next place on the podium for the right to occupy the 
Joker: 



             Now let's talk about diverse things.

                                  Joker, Faultless 3


   Another would say "about the supernatural! :)


    In sixth place Joker apologetic about otsut06 interaction 
in his journal of interesting material: 


 Maybe someone interested in the question that we have very 
little  information! Yes, it is not enough, but a good little 
bit of everything, and we ask that you do not dare to immerse 
you in immeasurable to the limit is meaningless LIMITED awe. 

                                          Joker, Faultless 3


    What style! Not for nothing the following quotation also 
belongs Dzho05 Keruen: 


 Incidentally, the license for the sale of our magazine is at 
approximately $ 20-25. So, because of this, mainly we  would 
wrap up, what started. " 

                                          Joker, Faultless 3


   And they began, according to the context, issue of the 
magazine. That is what wrap and would like ...



04 on 4 spot Joker-thinker:



         Although the letters I've ever think otherwise.

                                     Joker, Faultless 3


03 for third place has managed to climb up a phrase from a 
review in F3: 


 The game also travels to an abandoned elephant kingdom
 Darkness and Evil.

                                                 Faultless 3


   Undoubtedly, the beautiful phrase from the rest. Only that it
for the kingdom is why the "well" and why suddenly it's 
"kingdom of darkness and evil abandoned? Are Evil is not 
enough? In my opinion, so with this we have no problems.



    Bare not reached the rank of a leader is even more lethal
02 sentence of that section:


 In the end you are presented with a basketball championship in 
basketball. 

                                                 Faultless 3


   As you can see, the word "football" like the editorial 
board. But even more they adore the word "game". In 53 
proposals the review can be found 56 (!) Word game, a player, 
play, etc. (Ie one-root). 80 percent of them falls on the 
"game" 8 - [] 


    Well, in the first place is the same Joker with just 
ubiystven01 nym proposal (odnim!!): 


 Want to disappoint all those who are hoping to prosizhYvaet 
than one  summer evening, trying to create something new that 
can time zit, if not all those involved in the construction of 
the demos,  but at least their neighbors and especially myself, 
so  as any living man if he were a hacker or a programmer 
appreciates  their work and the creativity that sets itself to

 first place and literally did not initially listen to the
 opinions of others.

                                                 Faultless 3


   In bent! I would and could not! I will leave you impressed 
by the last pearl ... See you in the next ten! 



   That's all for today. If you notice that something is wrong,
something is missing, do not judge strictly. As you can see,
In most cases the first attempt goes lumpy, as if its creator 
did not try. So you'd better just write me a couple of lines 
about what you would like to see in Revival'e what is missing 
... The only way we can later turn out standing newspaper.



   I apologize for being in this room a few articles
taken from Fido: firstly, to Fido therefore run almost all the 
valuable news, and, secondly, the newspaper is not just for 
fidoshnikov, but for the whole country (as well as not everyone 
has access to ZX.SPECTRUM ...). And finally, thirdly, a lot 
better different information, even well-known than some brand 
new articles ... But in the Fido-News I did not turn Revival 
going ... ;) 


   And another thing: if anyone has any interesting articles ZX
their own compositions - you are welcome! Me one good newspaper 
will be very, very difficult issue. Therefore look forward to 
help readers. 


   In general, all questions on my fidoshny address:


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   Until next time!



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