unreadable areas

I receive this area wholly garbled. Nobody can't read anything. Does someone
can explain which kind of charachter sets is using here ??
I tried all, but unsuccesfully. I have users who asked me to link this area,
but I have to abandon it if this problem can't be solved.
2nd question: is this area a Fidonet area ? In this case it is more strange
these unreadable carachters are allowed.
3rd question: are you writing is russian ? Strange again! An international area
must be readable for all and this means that language should be imperatively
english.

Let me have news (using caracthers and/or language I can understand).

Thanks in advance.

Bye

Riccardo

Sat 13:07 21 Mar 1998 Riccardo Dri writes to All:

RD> 3rd question: are you writing is russian ?

Yes.

RD> Strange again! An international area must be readable for all and
RD> this means that language should be imperatively english.

ZX.SPECTRUM is not international area.

Best wishes! Michael KLUG

MM> ZX.SPECTRUM is not international area.

Misha, you wouldn’t tell him off, but explain it like a chest of drawers, saying let him write in
his English, we’ll understand, and maybe even answer. ;) I would write this myself,
but I’m afraid that they will laugh at my English. ;( And it would probably be interesting
to know the opinion of foreign people who still remember that there is a Spectrum.

With all kinds of regards and wishes.
Igor.

... Your brilliant future is left behind.

IG> Misha, you wouldn’t tell him off, but explain it like a chest of drawers, saying let
IG> write in his English, we’ll understand, and maybe even answer. ;) I
IG> would have written this myself, but I’m afraid that they will laugh at my English. ;(

For the same reason I answered so briefly :)

Best wishes! Michael KLUG

Well, why do it right away...
IG> And it would probably be interesting to know the opinion of foreign people, who still
IG> still remember that there is a Spectrum.
I absolutely agree. If there are still people THERE who remember Specky,
then it would be stupid to cut off this last branch connecting us and them.
And so, maybe someone will come to FunTop, and maybe they will bring work.
A small note from life...
Based on my place of residence, I noticed that there are no Spectrums from the West no one is lucky (hence they don’t throw them away), they are carrying atari, amigi, commodores, other
nonsense, but not a single Spectrum, hence the conclusion - this machine is still spinning there among the people...!

Oleg

... Only the dead can be resurrected. It's harder for the living.

Yeah, the naming of this conference is quite misleading and does not meet
the facts. This area is actually not international and mostly intended for
Russian-speaking readers.
It's not a subject without change, you're welcome. :)

RD> Thanks in advance.

RD> Bye
RD> Riccardo

Cordially Yours, Alexey

PS\ Speccy lives on in Italy?

IG>> Misha, you wouldn’t tell him off, but explain it like a chest of drawers, saying let
IG>> write in his English, we’ll understand, and maybe even answer. ;) I
IG>> would have written this myself, but I’m afraid that they will laugh at my English. ;(

Well, if they want, let them read our English "as-is" ;)

Oleg

... All the bees came with honey, and one such small and harmful one came with tar.

RD> I receive this area wholly garbled. Nobody can't read anything. Does
RD> someone can explain which kind of charachter sets is using here ??

We use ASCII table, 8bit, also known as "866 chars coding"

RD> I tried all, but unsuccesfully. I have users who asked me to link
RD> this area, but I have to abandon it if this problem can't be solved.

If your users can read Russian letters, this echoconference may be very
interesting for them.

RD> 2nd question: is this area a Fidonet area ?

Yes.

RD> In this case it is more strange these unreadable carachters are
RD> allowed.

It is LOCAL area for R46/R50 regions, also known as ex-USSR.

[...skiped...]
RD> 3rd question: are you writing is Russian ? Strange again! An international
RD> area must be readable for all and this means that language should be
RD> imperatively english.
And what kind of guests are these from sunny Uzbekistan?

And why was ZX.SPECTRUM included in the international ones?
After all, Venice is not like crazy people...

See you! Write more!
Alexey.

23 Mar 98 02:30, Alexey Mednonogov reported to Riccardo Dri about {unreadable areas}:

RD>> and this means that language should be imperatively English.

...the burghers are already completely stunned - they indicate which language should be written in ;)
Yankee, go home :))

With hot Hello, Slava!

VM> ...the burghers are already completely stunned - they indicate what language should be written in
VM> ;) Yankees, go home :))

Okay, people just didn’t understand why in the echo, which doesn’t have a prefix in front
prefix a la RU., SU., SPB., etc., people are talking in Russian.

PS\ What about “Yankee” go home" - you explain it to him in English. :)

Cordially Yours, Alexey

RD> Let me have news (using caracthers and/or language I can understand).

You may have noticed by the recent subjects that your query got a fairly
wide response in the conference. Unfortunately, in Russian. :) The sense is that
we welcome you and your friends to participate the conference discussions and
let us know if you have any info concerning speccy and speccy fans in your
country.

Looking forward to contacting with you
Alexey

PS. Speccy lives on?

All relations with foreign guests should be entrusted to Sergei Novikov, not in vain
after all, the Motherland spent people's money on his education in an English special school :))

With warm greetings, Slava!

23 Mar 98 15:44, Alex Baskakov wrote to All:
[...]
AB> And what kind of guests are these from sunny Uzbekistan?
AB> And why was ZX.SPECTRUM included in the international ones?
AB> After all, Venice is not like crazy things for you...
So, after all, the spread of echoes FIDO channels are not prohibited.
At least Billy himself might appear here! ;)

Oleg AKA Olav [Team Sliders]

... When you hear “Long live progress!”, always ask: “Progress of what?”

RD> I tried all, but unsuccesfully. I have users who asked me to link this
RD> area, but I have to abandon it if this problem can't be solved.

If anyone of your users understands the Russian language properly, this echo
will be worth reading. Our language is beautiful enough, though it's very hard
to learn. So if you don't know Russian, this echo won't be useful for you. In
any case, your points may write here about the problems, the questions they wish
to find answers to. There are many people here who know English well enough;
we'll find opportunity and will to continue the productive dialogue between our
two peoples. ;)

MM>> ZX.SPECTRUM is not international area.
IG>> Misha, you wouldn’t tell him off, but explain it like a chest of drawers, saying let
IG>> write in his English, we’ll understand, and maybe even answer. ;) I
IG>> would write this myself, but I’m afraid that they will laugh at my English. ;(
MM> For the same reason I answered so briefly :)

MM>>> ZX.SPECTRUM is not international area.
IG>>> Misha, you wouldn’t tell him off, but explain it like a chest of drawers, saying let
IG>>> write in his English, we will understand, and maybe even answer. ;) I
IG>>> would write this myself, but I’m afraid that they will laugh at my English. ;(
MM>> For the same reason I answered so briefly :)

Greetings, O Igor!

A virtual scroll, dated 03/22/98, reads:
Mr. Igor Gruzdev enlightened Mr. Michael Markowsky o
"unreadable areas":

[hop, and no]

IG> in English, we will understand, and maybe even answer. ;) I would write this myself,
but I'm afraid
IG> that they will laugh at my English. ;(And it would probably be interesting
to know the opinion

But you write in order to be understood, and not for the sake of
grammar. :) And laughing at ignorance of the language in
civilized countries is not good. ;) For example,
English-speaking people consider it normal to speak distorted
Russian, because... they believe that the main thing is to understand the interlocutor.
For it is better to know several languages at a level sufficient for
understanding than 2 languages at the level of grammar ;)
(but in our country they often know their native language precisely “at the level of
understanding” ;(
)

IG> foreign people who still remember that there is a Spectrum.

Hmm, in London they remember Spectrum good. :) In the 95s
there was even a fashion for virtual Spectrum. By the way (someone
already talked about this), in Europe the Spectrum is considered a classic, and
not “some kind of antediluvian computer with crappy graphics.”

By the way, 2:333 - what city?

IG> With all sorts of regards and wishes.
IG> Igor.

-= And may he be with youGreat Power! =-

Sincerely, Arthur/JEDI █▓▒░

-+- SMM version 1.08

OB> So, the distribution of echoes through FIDO channels is not prohibited.
OB> At least Billy himself might appear here! ;)

Well, only if he writes Mustdie95 under Speccy! :)
Sincerely
┬ ┬┌┐┬┐ ┐┬┬
╨╜╨╙╜╨╙ ╨ ╨

24 Mar 98 21:19, Sergei Novikov wrote to Riccardo Dri:
[...]
SN> What kind of news do you need? We'll surely do our best to reply to
SN> your queries.
And here we are getting very close to a topic that I have raised here
more than once, namely, the distribution of programs for the Pentagon. Poor Italians
will receive our software, launch it on branded Specks, and think -
“God, what is this, why is my computer slowing down Z8[ ]!!!”
What do you think the poor Italian Spectrumists will think first of all
about our authors... ;))) (I’ll give you a hint, this word begins with la...;)

Tue 24 Mar 1998 02:01, Vyacheslav Mednonogov wrote to Michael Markowsky:

VM> All relations with foreign guests should be entrusted to Sergei
VM> Novikov, it was not in vain that the Motherland spent people's money on his
VM> education in an English special school :))

And you can also get him to drink beer and pay for all contacts with “greyhound puppies”
;)))

Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

VY> Well, only if he writes Mustdie95 under Speccy! :)
Then I’ll personally stick a cake in his mug!!!
And so as not to be happy, I’ll specially find an expired one with mold... ;)

25 Mar 98 14:04, Tyukaev Eugene Vladimirovich wrote to All:
[...]
TV> maybe that’s enough already, huh?
Don’t be upset, this is me, speaking of foreigners.
During the last flame on this topic, the trump card was the absence of foreigners and
branded Spectrums from the public. Now IMHO we have both!
TV> well, what should I do with my computer now?
TV> I’ll write something on it and everyone will immediately call me la...
No, they won’t, we’ll give them emulators ;)
TV> help, maybe someone can give me a circuit diagram for braking the penta and
By the way, there is a circuit diagram =)))))

OB> · ◊œ‘ ‘’‘ ÕŸ ◊–Ãœ‘Œ’¿ –p…¬Ã…÷¡≈Õ”— À ‘≈Õ≈, Àœ‘œp’¿ — ⁄ƒ≈”ÿ –œƒŒ…Õ¡Ã
OB> Œ≈œƒŒœÀp¡‘Œœ, ¡ …Õ≈ŒŒœ- p¡”‘¡À‘œ◊À¡ –pœ« –œƒ ≈Œ‘¡«œŒ. œÃ’fi¡‘ ¬≈ƒŒŸ≈
OB> …‘¡Ãÿ—Œ√Ÿ Œ¡€ ”œ∆‘, ⁄¡–’”‘—‘ Œ¡ ∆…pÕ≈ŒŒŸ» Û–≈À¡», … –œƒ’Õ¡¿‘-
OB> "‚œ÷≈, fi‘œ ‹‘œ ‘¡Àœ≈, –œfi≈Õ’ Õœ  ÀœÕ– ‘¡À ‘œpÕœ⁄…‘ ˆ8[ ]!!!"
OB> ΡÀ –œ ‘◊œ≈Õ’, fi‘œ –œƒ’Õ¡¿‘ ◊ –≈p◊’¿ œfi≈p≈ƒÿ ¬≈ƒŒŸ≈ È‘¡Ãÿ—Œ”À…≈
OB> Û–≈À‘p’Õ…”‘Ÿ œ Œ¡€…» ¡◊‘œp¡»... ;))) (–œƒ”À¡÷’, Œ¡fi…Œ¡≈‘”— ‹‘œ ”Ãœ◊œ Œ¡
OB> á...;)

Û…ƒ—‘ œŒ…, ”Àœ“≈≈ ◊”≈«œ, ⁄¡ ‹Õ’בœ“¡Õ…, ‘¡À fi‘œ –’”‘ÿ ƒœ”‘¡¿‘ X128.

It is possible for you and your points to get the latest Speccy information
in Russia here in English. In this case, don't hide yourself from us - we want
to have a possibility to speak with our international friends ;) Please, give us
a bit more news about Speccy'n'Speccy fans in your country.

WBW, Alex [ X-Files Team ]

25 Mar 98 00:07, Oleg Bashtenko reported to Sergei Novikov about {unreadable areas}:

OB> What do you think the poor Italians will think first
OB> Spectrumists about our authors... ;)))

What the hell is the difference, what will some pasta people think about OUR AUTHORS?

Warm greetings, Slava!

[ Powered by iP200MMX/64Mb/5.2Gb/17"x1600x1200/CDx24/SB/14400/LJ5L ]

VM> What the hell does it matter what some pasta people think about OUR
VM> AUTHORS?
Of course, the difference isn’t that big for you. The games don't get much worse due to
braking. And the demos need to calculate everything perfectly. :)

With The Best Wishes. [TEAM Speccy-r00leZ] [TEAM X-fILes]
[TEAM ┼he Pr0d!9Y] MaGeLan.

Wednesday March 25 1998 14:04, Tyukaev Eugene Vladimirovich ─── All:

TEV> well, what's going on?
TEV> maybe that's enough already, huh?
TEV> well, what should I do with my computer now?
TEV> I'll write something on it and everyone will immediately call me - la...
TEV> help, maybe someone can give me a circuit for braking the penta and
TEV> a circuit to make the field separate, well, it’s really necessary!!!
TEV> well, I don’t want to be la...om in the eyes of the Italians :(
IMHO, that’s not what he was talking about. It’s just that there haven’t been enough “craftsmen” yet who
score the Pentagon’s intelligence “under I really don’t want to,” which is why everything slows down on other
computers. To paraphrase your words - “well, what should I do now with my Scorpio, if my int is somewhat shorter?”

TEV> PS well, isn’t it nonsense, huh?
Nope. Far from nonsense. Although, maybe I just didn’t understand what is he talking about?

IG>> courier?

EM> Wow, ARTI is a smart guy, he should know import customs and
EM> customs... :)))

Damn, what have I done to you and Igor Gruzdev? Did you step on your heel?
Envy needs to be eradicated =)))
But seriously - to each his own and let's not focus attention, okz?

cYa, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · ··· Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru ··· · · ·

Wed Mar 25 1998 00:06, Oleg Bashtenko wrote to Sergei Novikov:
OB> And here we are getting very close to the topic that I have raised here
OB> more than once, namely, the packaging of programs for the Pentagon.
this is well "standard" -:)
OB> Poor Italians will get our software, run it on branded Specs, and
OB> they will think -
OB> "God, what is this, why is my computer slowing down Z8 so much[
because it's under the
Pentagon -:)
OB> ]!!!"

OB> What do you think they'll think in first of all, the poor Italian
OB> Spectrumists about our authors... ;))) (I’ll give you a hint, this word
OB> begins with la...;)
In most normal programs it is written “under the Pentagon”.
Do you think Italians are not people? will they guess?

<- With Best ReGardZ, Pavel
Virtual/Silence Crionix'98

TV>> PS
TV>> well, isn’t it nonsense, is it?
OB> Well, you can’t even rave... G8)
OB> By the way, nonsense was not prohibited in the steering wheels! ;)))
I love this phrase!

OB>> Italian Spectrumists about our authors... ;)))

VM> What the hell does it matter what some pasta people think
VM> about OUR AUTHORS?

Well, if you made an English version of the CV, then maybe it wouldn’t matter. :)

Sincerely
┬ ┬┌┐┬┐ ┐┬┬
╨╜╨╙╜╨╙ ╨ ╨

26 Mar 98 23:01, Max Lanskih reported by Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {Re: unreadable
areas}:

OB>> What do you think the poor Italians will think first
OB>> Spectrumists about our authors... ;)))
VM>> What the hell difference does it make, what some pasta people will think about
VM>> OUR AUTHORS?
ML> Of course, the difference isn’t that big for you. The games are not particularly worse due to
ML> braking. And the demos need to calculate everything perfectly. :)

In your opinion, for some Italians (whom you will never see in your life :) you need
to write well, while for your own people you can write from scratch and not
"calculate everything perfectly"? You offend :((

AH> Damn, what have I done to you and Igor Gruzdev? Did you step on your toe?
AH> Envy must be eradicated =)))
AH> But seriously - to each his own and let's not focus attention, okz?

Yes, no problem. But I get tired of editing files.bbs after something like this appearances:

──────────────────────────bite─here──────(file: Files.Bbs)─────────────
MYSTICAL.RAR ┌--------[^sPECCY COURIER tEAM^]---------┐
▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄
███■ ███ ██■ ██■
███ ███ ▀████ ▀████
▄▄▄ ▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄
███■██ ███■██ ███ ██■ ▄■▀
▀████▀ ███ ██ ███ ▀████ █████
└[nfo]-----------------------------------┐
rELEAZE : Mystical 48/128
rELEAZED : Concern Chaos
fOUNDER : Random/CC
sUPPLIED : Random/CC
cOURIERED: aR7Y/dR/FW
└[distsitez]----------------------------┐
aCIDE nATURE: ftp://ftp.ogre2vsk.edu.lv
gRODNO: ftp://ftp.telecom.grodno.by
dR: ftp://hsoft.ml.org
└[contact]-------------------------------┐
eMAIL: ar...@telecom.nov.ru
fIDO : 2:5032/7.44
└------------------------------[join us!]┘
BATMAN1.ZIP ┌─────────────────────┐
│ BATMAN 1+ remake │
│ (C) MAYhEM 1998 │
│ FreeWare Release │
│ March 1998 │
│ Contact us: │
│ 2:5022/30.6@fidonet │
│ Andrey Lysenko │
│ OR │
│ a...@tula.net │
│ subj: AMOK │
└─────────────────────┘
PDT.ZIP This .zip has inside:
*Prodigi Tracker* cOOl digital editor 4 Soundrive v1.x
OCEAN_97 - the muzic module 4 PDT by Leo
PDT.txt - the Cool helping text PDT
E97MUSIC.ZIP ┌--------[^sPECCY cOURIER tEAM^]---------┐
▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄
███■ ███ ██■ ██■
███ ███ ▀████ ▀████
▄▄▄ ▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄
███■██ ███■██ ███ ██■ ▄■▀
▀████▀ ███ ██ ███ ▀████ █████
└[nfo]-----------------------------------┐
rELEAZE : E97 music pack
rELEAZED : Virtual Brazers
fOUNDER : Cris/VB
sUPPLIED : Vladimir Larkov/TMG/VB
cOURIERED: aR7Y/dR/FW
└[distsitez]-----------------------------┐
aCIDE nATURE: ftp://ftp.ogre2vsk.edu.lv
gRODNO: ftp://ftp.telecom.grodno.by
dR: ftp://hsoft.ml.org
└[contact]-------------------------------┐
eMAIL: ar...@telecom.nov.ru
fIDO : 2:5032/7.44
└------------------------------[join us!]┘
──────────────────────────кусать─здесь──────(file: Files.Bbs)─────────────

Пpичем если сpеднии две так и оставляю, то пеpвое и последнее пpиходится
pучками доpабатывать. :(

Saturday March 28 1998 08:51, Igor Gruzdev wrote to Artem Kharitonov:

[skip major list =)]

IG> Moreover, if I leave the middle two like that, then the first and last
IG> have to
IG> be modified manually. :(

In general, everything looks very progressive! =)

PS: At heart, you are a stager! =)

cYa, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · ··· Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · · · · ·

MM>>>>> ZX.SPECTRUM is not international area.
IG>>>>> Misha, you wouldn’t tell him off, but explain it like a chest of drawers, saying let
IG>>>>> write in his English, we will understand, and maybe even answer. ;) I
IG>>>>>would have written this myself, but I’m afraid that they will laugh at my English. ;(
MM>>>> For the same reason I answered so briefly :)
IG>>> :) Maybe we can ask AYATY, with his world-famous method
IG>>> of courier?

IG>> you have to modify it manually. :(
AH> In general, everything looks very progressive! =)
AH> PS: At heart, you are a stager! =)

Don’t suck up, dear. :)))

ZY: In the shower - you're a stagehand! =)

cYa, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · ··· Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru ··· · · ·