SuperSpectrum... Is it needed?

I have been reading this conference for several months now and I must say that I am
surprised by some of the topics that the esteemed Sinclairists are discussing.
Of course, Spectrum cannot compete with PC, even with HT. And this is precisely why I want to ask everyone who reads me a question - why fool yourself by creating different superspectrums, superpentagons and other super-arithmometers, when there is a platform that has been established throughout the world and has no competitors (except PowerPC)? Yes, I'm talking about a trivial machine, which is an eyesore for us everywhere - a PC with a processor compatible with Intel processors. I, too, was (and I hope I still am) a sinclairist who enthusiastically played various dizzy and caldron games, but that was 6 years ago. Already for that time, the Spectrum was a relic of the past,
but what can we say about the year 1997? Look at all these new models like the Pentagon and pathetic ATMs, is their architecture strikingly different from the architecture of the Spectrum 128? NO ! What about the graphics? This moronic picture format, in which an 8x8 pixel square can only have one color.
Of course, for 1982 it was cool, but after 2 years Atari
was selling its computers with much more advanced graphics and even
a separate graphics processor. Spectrum is a CORPSE, which needs to be consigned to history, and not to be buried in mausoleums, creating countlessnumber
clones and machines compatible with it, including the mythical
SuperSpectrum. And who will take care of the software for the new Super? Are there really nuggets in the former Union who will create programs with the capabilities of MS Office or PageMaker
without a material base? Yes, this is just funny! Of course, the main incentives for creating a
SuperSpectrum are the reluctance to part with your favorite system and PRICE. But gentlemen who are financially strapped can purchase a used system with a 386DX processor, 4 meters of RAM, and a 200 screw for $200 -
$300. It may be more expensive than the planned Superspectrum, but there is a lot of software. And if you wish, you can run an emulator
and on your desktop your old favorite Spectrum.
Well, if the gentlemen who are cherishing the stillborn child - Super Spectrum,
hopeless retrogrades, out of the simplicity of their souls, wanting to compete with the PC
(which even Apple could not cope with, despite hundreds of billions
of dollars of annual turnover), then in the end they will find themselves with broken
trough, on which even the text is beautiful and it can’t be done.

P.S. From everything I have written, one should not conclude that I am an opponent of Spectrum. Not at all! Even now, I sometimes launch the emulator to
indulge in nostalgic memories. I just wanted to say that
everything has its time and systems that have outlived their useful life must give wayместо
системам новым.

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Answering yld Wednesday, the 04 of June 1997:

S> I have been reading this conference for several months now and I must say that
S> I am surprised by some of the topics that the esteemed Sinclairists are discussing.
S> Of course, Spectrum cannot compete with PC, even with HT.

What are you talking about?! What's your latest demo? Is it possible on XT?

S> +-=MetalSite=-+ Madhouse's Division

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Hasta la vista, Starwalker! See you in Eden!

·∙ Novikov Sergei AKA Spirit/CS [Team ZX ASM] ∙·

[smth was devastated...]

S> I, too, was (and I hope remains) a Sinclairist who enthusiastically played
S> various dizzy and caldron games, but that was 6 years ago.

So, let’s do the math. 6 years ago it was 1991. 'Dizzy 4. Magic Land' was released in December 1990, at the same time 'Dizzy 3.5.' appeared in Crash. Special Edition for
Crash'. At that time they couldn’t reach Russia in less than a year, so you didn’t see them. 'Dizzy 3. Fantastic World' came out in January (sort of) 1990. The same
same thing, although I admit that you could have seen it. 'Dizzy 2. Treasure Island' was released in 1989, you probably caught it. But the fact that you also called 'Cauldron'
(1985, like, Palace) suggests that you played all sorts of old games (by
today's standards. I'm not even talking about games like 'Star Inheritance' (STEP
1995), 'UFO. Enemy Unknown' (Copper Feet 1995), 'UFO 2. Terror from the Deep'
(Copper Feet 1996), 'Mortal Kombat' (Mafia, Code Busters 1997), 'Space Gun'
(Ocean, Taito, Images 1992), etc. you just didn't catch.

S> Of course, the Spectrum cannot compete with the PC, even with the XT. And exactly

And where did you get this from? At least in terms of the quantity and quality of the software: on HT you have
Lexicon, and on speccy the editor in is-dos is better, more convenient, more functions, etc.
etc.!!!

S> so I want to ask everyone who reads me a question - why fool yourself
S> by creating different superspectrums, superpentagons and other
S> super-arithmometers, when there is an established one for everything the world's platform, not

PC, this is a LARGE COLOR ARETHROMETER-CALCULATOR! If you don't believe me, decipher
the name IBM!!!

S> which has competitors (except PowerPC)? Yes, I'm talking about a trivial machine
S> that is an eyesore for us everywhere - a PC with a processor
S> compatible with Intel processors. I, too, was (and I hope remains)
S> a Sinclairist who enthusiastically plays various dizzy and caldron games, but that
S> was 6 years ago. Already for that time, the Spectrum was a relic of the past,

On speccy you can not only play Dizzy, but also work, and
work WITHOUT GLUCKS, with which you tend to be friends on the PC!!!

S> and what can we say about the year 1997? Look at all these remakes like the Pentagon and pathetic ATMs, is their architecture strikingly different from the Spectrum 128 architecture? NO! What about the graphics? This moronic format
S> of the picture, in which the square8x8 pixels can have only one color.
S> Of course, for 1982 this was cool, but after 2 years Atari
S> was selling its computers with much more advanced graphics and even
S> a separate graphics processor. The Spectrum is a CORPSE, which needs to be

Corse, this is a PC, since further developments by Intel no longer bring a significant
increase in power, and the possibilities for expanding the speccy
LIMITLESS!!!

S> consigned to history, and not procrastinate in mausoleums, creating countless
S> clones and machines compatible with it, including the mythical
S> SuperSpectrum. And who
S> will take care of the software for the new Super? Are there really nuggets in the former Union who will create
S> without a material base programs with the capabilities of MS Office or PageMaker?
S> Yes, this is just ridiculous! Of course, the main incentives for creating
S> SuperSpectrum are the reluctance to part with your favorite system and PRICE. But
S> gentlemen who are financially strapped can purchase a used
S> system with a 386DX processor, 4 meters of RAM, a 200 screw for $200 -

On such a machine the vaunted MS Office and PageMaker will not really suit you!

S> $300. It may be more expensive than the planned Superspectrum, but
S> the software is immeasurable. And if you wish, you can run the
S> emulator and have your old favorite on your desktopSpectrum. Well, if the gentlemen who are cherishing
S> the stillborn child - SuperSpectrum,
S> are hopeless retrogrades, out of the simplicity of their souls wanting to compete with the PC
S> (which even Apple could not cope with, despite hundreds of billions

In terms of the opportunities provided, Apple did not lose, but won!

S> dollars of annual turnover), then in the end they will end up with a broken
S> trough, on which even the text is beautiful, and that can’t be done.

S> P.S. From everything I have written, one should not conclude that I am an opponent
S> of Spectrum. Not at all! Even now, I sometimes launch the emulator to
S> indulge in nostalgic memories. I just wanted to say that
S> everything has its time and systems that have outlived their useful life must give way
S> to new systems.

Who told you that speccy has outlived its useful life???

Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

Regards, Starwalker

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Thu 05 Jun 1997 02:55, Starwalker wrote to All:

S> I answer your question - if you turn on SB in HT, then

... it (SB) will not work there...

S> But actually, I was not talking about demos, but about work.

ZX is not for serious work - it is for the soul!!! There is no need to compare it with anything. He is as he is, beautiful...

Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

B@#$%! The next one! Where do you come from?

[skipped]

Have a nice connection.
Roman.

Thursday, June 05, 97, already 01:43

S> and what can we say about the year 1997? Look at all these remakes like the Pentagon and pathetic ATMs, is their architecture strikingly different from the Spectrum 128 architecture? NO! What about the graphics? This moronic
S> picture format, in which an 8x8 pixel square can only have one color.
S> Of course, for 1982 it was cool, but after 2 years Atari
S> was selling its computers with much more advanced graphics and even

Regards, Starwalker

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S> I answer your question - if you turn on SB in HT, the effect will be cooler than
S> on the Spectrum. I hope that you will not argue that the feeble sound
S> 3-voice synthesizer of the Spectrum can compete with the 11-voice SB at
S> 44.1 kHz? And they don’t write old demos, because there are cooler cars, which is why there haven’t been any demos on XT lately. HT is no longer used anywhere! But actually, I wasn’t talking about demos, but about work.

In general, the standard for XT is a beeper, but on the speccy AY there will be a better beeper! And
if you plug a soundblaster into the General Sound Spectrum, and let's see what
sounds better!!! And there is nothing to demonstrate in XT demos, and I saw these
demos, and they are far from 48k specs!

Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

S> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Seriously? So that’s how it is, it means I suffered from hallucinations. And dozens of my friends too.

It turns out. I hope everything is fine now? :)

I quote the English magazine Emulate!, number 1:

Name Date YS CR
======================================================================
DIZZY OCT 87 7 78
TREASURE ISLAND DIZZY MAR 89 8 87
FANTASY WORLD DIZZY JAN 90 88 94
MAGICLAND DIZZY DEC 90 90 93
SPELLBOUND DIZZY JAN 92 90 --
PRINCE YOLK FOLK JAN 93 71 --
CRYSTAL KINGDOM DIZZY DEC 92 70 --

FAST FOOD APR 89 63 68
KWIK SNAX DEC 90 92 92
PANIC DIZZY MAR 91 49 80
BUBBLE DIZZY FEB 92 80 --
DIZZY DOWN RAPIDS JUL 92 65 --

AVERAGE SCORES OCT 87-JAN 93 76 85

TOTAL SCORE 81%

S> I don’t know how it is in Russia, but in Moldova, where I lived 2 years ago, they have long forgotten about
S> Spectrums.

2Vova Hex: correct the man...

S> Now it’s fashionable to play on the Sega Megadrive or Saturn. Well, if a person
S> has very little money, then you can take Dandy ;)) Of course, you can
S> only play games on it, but the graphics and sound (compared to
S> Spectrum) are quite tolerable.

You just forgot Spectrum. And the graphics, and the games, and especially the sound - it’s so MD compared to the ZX...

No one else has connected AWE to the Spectrum? :]

■ Yes, in a normal country such a computer would have been mine long ago!

05 Jun 97 04:49 -- Alexey Ivanov told Starwalker about SuperSpectrum... Is it needed?:

S>> But actually, I wasn’t talking about demos, but about work.

AI> ZX is not for serious work - it’s for the soul!!! There is no need to compare it with anything
AI>. He is as he is, beautiful...

Not only that. Here another person was already crying, asking: “I switched to a PC.
Did I do the right thing?” - Of course, that’s right - people are growing up and finally growing up to
games on PC.

With warm greetings, Slava.

04 Jun 97 10:47 -- Alex Letaev told Starwalker about Re: SuperSpectrum... A
is it needed?:

AL> PC is a LARGE COLOR AREPHOMETER CALCULATOR! If you don't believe me,
AL> decipher the name IBM!!!

O.k! I agree with you. And I’m proud that this calculator has long surpassed all sorts of supposedly cool, dare I say it, computers. Besides Specka, of course
:)

[Flame started?]

Warm greetings, Slava.

Dmitry Grigoryev wrote:
>
> Hello, Starwalker!
>
> Thursday June 05, 1997 20:10, Starwalker wrote to All:

> [missed...]

> >> this is your IMHO.
>
> S> ^^^^ I use IMO, because my opinion is not at all modest.

> In your case, the abbreviation IMLO is more suitable... Use it!

Explain, otherwise I am not a supporter of these abbreviations and I don’t know what it means.

> S> As for my “predictions”, this is already reality, and with
> S> with the passage of time it becomes more and more gloomy.
>
> :-) I've gotten over Nintendo... The Pentium hasn't replaced Speccy for me either... Saturn, why

The Pentium hasn't replaced the Spectrum for you?!? What, there wasn’t enough power?
I doubt it.
Why is Specky so irreplaceable? In my opinion, you just haven’t seen Pentyukh or
you have perverted needs. I've seen a lot, but... to compare a Pentium with a spec... well, that's too much. Should I try... or, after all, DENDY... Eh? How's IYLO? *)

It's your business. Judging by your needs, Mikrosha will suit you best.
And IYLO is something new. Explain?

> Sincerely, Dmitry (OLDMAN).

Sincerely, Ivan.

Sat 14:43 07 Jun 1997 Starwalker writes to All:

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Best wishes! Michael KLUG

Thu 05-Jun-97 20:10, Starwalker (2:5020/400) wrote a letter to All:

S> Where did you stay? You're confusing something here. Spectrum is dead everywhere. Unless

I have only two questions for you - have you read the rules of this echo and what the hell
do you want here?

With best wishes, Vladimir.

S> But understand that our dispute simply does not make any sense, because no
S> any normal person would argue that the Spectrum is cooler than a pussy.

An interesting type of delusion! And if I say that the Spectrum is better than the PC in that the ZX user is bypassed by the happiness of endlessly throwing money down the drain in the implementation of an endless Upgrade! Any SPECCY user in 1990
who bought 128+tr-dos+ay will be able to run any game from 1997! And if you bought
in 1990, at best, 386 will be able to run MDK on it??? So the undeniable best aspects of SPECCY are obvious!

Alex from FFC COMPUTERS!

AL>>> believe me, decipher the name IBM!!!

VM>> OK! I agree with you. And I’m proud that this calculator
VM>> has long defeated all sorts of supposedly cool, I’m not afraid of this word,
VM>> computers. Except for Specky, of course :)

Specky didn’t do anything wrong, but just miraculously survived! :)
You don’t have to forget about other computers.

* Origin: AndyDeath station (2:5021/20.64)
-+-How is it only except Specky, and Amiga, and Mac? =8-O
-+-IBM is not even a calculator, but just SHIT!

Alex Letaev wrote:
>
> Hello Starwalker! In a message of 05 Jun 97 Starwalker wrote to All:
>
> S> But understand that our dispute simply does not make any sense, because no
> S> any normal person would argue that the Spectrum is cooler than a pussy.
>
> An interesting type of delusion! And if I say that the Spectrum is better than the PC in that
> the ZX user is bypassed by the happiness of endlessly throwing money down the drain in
> the implementation of endless Upgrade! Any SPECCY user in 1990
> who bought 128+tr-dos+ay will be able to run any game from 1997! And if you bought
> in 1990, at best 386 will be able to run MDK on it??? So
> the undeniable best aspects of SPECCY are obvious!

VM> Not only that. Here another person was already crying, asking: “I
VM> switched to PC. Did I do the right thing?” - Of course, that’s right - people
VM> are growing up and finally growing up to play games on the PC.

“Correct” is an elastic concept! There is the following tendency among the people: a person sat on a ZX, coded a little for himself, for the soul, for his own development, and then bang, and PC, and on it he turned into an ordinary gamer (not all, but the majority)! And human development stops, and Windows begins to seem like the height of technology! :-)))

Sincerely, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

S> Pentium didn't replace Spectrum for you?!? What, there wasn’t enough power?
S> I doubt it.
S> Why is Specky so irreplaceable? In my opinion, you just haven’t seen Pentyukh or
S> you have perverted needs. I've seen a lot, but... for
S> Pentium to be compared with Spec... well, that's too much.

Pentium will never replace SPECCY in terms of power and depth of creativity!

Alex

AL>> PC is a LARGE COLOR AREPHOMETER-CALCULATOR! If you don't believe me,
AL>> decipher the name IBM!!!

VM> OK! I agree with you. And I’m proud that this calculator has long ago
VM> passed on all sorts of supposedly cool, dare I say it, computers.
VM> Except Specky, of course :)

The only thing it was able to pass on was its previous models, and no
more!

VM> [Flame started?]

[Flame finished!!!]

S> :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
S> And what does “by today's standards” mean? Spectrum's capabilities have not changed AT ALL over this
S> time (with the exception of a 3-voice synthesizer)

07 Jun 97 19:27, Alex Letaev wrote to Starwalker:
[...]
AL> Any SPECCY user in 1990 who bought 128+tr-dos+ay will be able
AL> to run any game of 1997!
AAAAAH! And here you are!;) For example, I dirtyly scold every second
“perverted loader” and programs tailored for the Pentagon, because my computer is compatible
with the firm version and on all sorts of glitchy subprograms it is 100% successful
freezes or starts to glitch.
It’s strange why mine Are proprietary programs buggy?
Maybe my computer is faulty?;)))

Oleg

... I ask roundabout questions to prevent evasive answers.

░▒▓█▓▒░░▒▓█▓▒░ ░ ░ A big hello to you, Konstantin!

[Friday June 06, 1997] when Konstantin Lomakin wrote Starwalker, Yurok was still not sleeping:

KL> SB16 20 FM OPL3 channels, naturally 44.1 kHz has nothing to do with this.

In SB (not AWE), IMHO, mixing occurs in software.

KL> SBPro and SB16 will not fit on XT, there ISAs are 8-bit.

That’s right, and even in 16-bit.

KL> Yes, and not will be able to download ikstik
KL> 176 k/sec, and even more so mix fashions. It'll die.

That's not the only thing, you can't even lose mids on it... :(

KL> For example -
KL> 32 channels 44kHz 16bit, oversamling, surround, without reverberation and
KL> special effects absorb 90% of the stump100.

No, you're wrong. AWEshnik is not eats up system resources (very little), it
implements hardware mixing. That's why it costs 4 times more than SB PRO
and
3 times more than SB 16 :)

KL> Ixtiha plows 200 times slower.
KL> So we take two and stick them there. AWE.

:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Prankster! I tried it, by the way!
If you're interested, use soap.

KL> Has anyone else connected AWE to the Spectrum? :]

You don’t need to do this, for God’s sake. I disapprove of all kinds of Generalxxx, since they
turn Specky into a monster with an average price of 386.

An ordinary music player, which is on all Specky, IMHO, just corresponds to it both in
cost and sound.
I’m not going to stick it inPissy synthic Roland? :))))))

───═══ Hu for now, don't drink coffee before bed... ;) ═══───

Once upon a time, specifically Friday June 06, 1997 at 1:14 pm Konstantin
Lomakin wrote Starwalker:

KL> reverberation and special effects are absorbed by 90% of stump100. Ixtikha plows
KL> 200 times slower. So we take two and stick AWE there.

Tue 10 Jun 1997 09:16, Alex Letaev wrote to Starwalker:

AL> If so, how will you explain the immeasurable number of people in this echo, and
AL> the immeasurable amount of software for Specky on the Internet?

...he will never understand this.

With respect, Alexey Ivanov

OB> AAAAAH! And here you are! By the way, my computer (its own circuit) also has a makeshift company in terms of int and the number of clock cycles, but the controller
is our old slightly modified BetaDisk, and there are no problems!

OB> with the firm version and on all sorts of glitchy subprograms it is 100% successful
OB> freezes or starts to glitch.
OB> It’s strange why Are my proprietary programs not buggy?
OB> Maybe my computer is faulty?;)))

And finally, I’m sorry that computers with incomplete compatibility have proliferated, but these are
obligatory consequences of handicraft development, thanks to which speccy has taken over
Russia! And everywhere there will definitely be someone (popularly the “fly in the ointment”!) who will definitely write a program in such a way that it will only work on his computer! And such phenomena must be fought! And by the way, on a cool branded computer
(the real one), most of the latest programs come with ripples across the screen (possibly due to
vector 2 interruptions), and since our controller was connected, then
there are no problems with loading!

08 Jun 97 23:25, Andrew Litvinov wrote to Starwalker:

AL> Recently a card for Specky came out - General Sound. In terms of sound quality
AL> (digital) it whistles better than PC vibration. This is for you about
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:- [ ]

AL> says anything?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
characteristics pls otherwise it’s hard to believe.......

WBR Iliya

... And the birds sat at his feet...... -= Russian Team GUS =-

S> But is it possible to compare games on Speccy and IBM? I mean
S> games from 1996
Each game is interesting primarily because of the idea embedded in it, and the graphics are
a candy wrapper. If the idea is weak, then the game gets lost very quickly and the graphics don't help. And there are a lot of interesting games on Speccy. There are also completely text-based games, and they still play them (at least Level 9 games).
Of course, they greet you by their clothes, but they see you off by their minds!
What is done on the PC in the C language, on the Speccy is done in assembly language and the difference
is obtained mainly only in the graphics (which is not available on the Spectrum change), yes
in money.

Vladimir Bogdanovitch.

AL>> A card for Specky was recently released - General Sound. In terms of sound quality
AL>> (digital) it whistles better than PC vibration. This is for you about
IK> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IK> :- [ ]

AL>> does it say anything?
IK> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IK> characteristics pls and then hard to believe......

Is it a matter of characteristics? The point is how it sounds! Actually, the card is 14
bits: 8 frequency + 6 volume... Ha Z80H... IMHO, 512 kb RAM maximum...
Plays 4 channels... Contact X-Trade, they make it...

Andrey Fedorov AKA Alien

AL>> “Correct” is an elastic concept! There is the following tendency among the people:
AL>> a person was sitting
AL>> on a ZX, coding a little for himself, for the soul, for his own
AL>> development, and then bang, and PC, and on it he turned into an ordinary gamer

VL> Is this an excerpt from your new book “The Genesis of Nikolas Rodionov”? ;)

No, these are CRUEL STATISTICS!!! :-))))

Saturday June 07 1997, Alex Letaev writes to Starwalker:

AL> Interesting type of delusion! And if I say that the Spectrum is better than the PC in that
AL> the ZX user is bypassed by the happiness of endlessly throwing money down the drain in
AL> the implementation of endless Upgrade! Any SPECCY user in 1990
AL> who bought 128+tr-dos+ay will be able to run any game from 1997! And if you bought
AL> in 1990, at best 386 will be able to run MDK on it??? So
AL> the undeniable best aspects of SPECCY are obvious!

Hmmm... This is a difficult case. You need to get treatment...
Then the calculator turns out to be the coolest thing - having bought it in 76, you can upgrade it to 97 and count whatever you want on it!!!
These are the undeniable best aspects of the calculator...

And there is no need to start a flame like “ZX _BETTER_ pussies” !!! I myself also drove a Speckie and coded it too... The car is good. But it’s good in its weight category.
And comparing it with the PC is insanity...

And the ZX for the average user is DEAD... The foreign companies that fought
toys and EVERYTHING have disappeared... there is no more SPECKI for the average lamer... the skeleton of the
foreign toys remains, a bunch of demomakers and Copperlegs with their Black Raven...
So EVERYTHING IS ON PC...
1. PC is the most common composter (I don’t know here, but in the whole world
EXACTLY)
2. The PC has an open architecture. Upgrade it liketwo fingers on the asphalt...
3. On the PC _KHRENOVA_TUCHISCHHA_ software!!!

Draw your own conclusions... And don’t worry about foolishness - create superspectrums
that will be close in price to a pussy, but in fact will remain calculators
in comparison with it. I understand that some Spekkovites are enviously bitten in the ass
and they start a flame “PC is crap”, but think soberly - PC is still RULES and
a cooler car will not appear soon. We don’t take AMMI into account, because AMMI hasn’t spread yet...

So, lads... I’m waiting for complaints, feedback and suggestions... :)

Victor Bilyk
[UnreaL GrouP]

S> I, of course, am an unpopular person here and in your opinion a lame and finally
S> a brawler, but I dare you know-it-alls to once again show
S> arrogance, reminding that the genius of writing thought has gone far ahead and people
S> are already playing on SB 32 (at least I). But because SB32 is still new,
S> then I’ll give you the characteristics of the old shameful SB16 card: - 16 bit stereo
S> D/A sampling from 4KHz to 44.1KHZ - 16 bit stereo A/D sampling from
S> 4KHZ to 44.1KHzh - there are about 11 channels for audio output.
S> So think how far behind you are even from the old disgraceful models.

I’ll tell you as a musician, from a practical point of view: 16 bit SB16 are eaten up
due to the disgusting circuit, playing digital sound at 44 kHz eats up immeasurable amounts of CPU performance, the operation of any SB is accompanied by hissing
high-frequency whistles, etc. And GS sounds WITHOUT crackling, noise or squeaking.
And does not waste time from the CPU.

Today at <09:16>
Alex Letaev was bashing with Starwalker, but I couldn’t keep silent:

[...Lost in the depths of MGTS...]

AL> Was I going to launch the Office on speccy, but you yourself suggested three! And
AL> the ZX is even better because there are no shamelessly slow programs on it!
If only they were there. After all, Spectrum exists in almost one high-speed
version. And pussies... The entire speed range is from 16MHz to 200MHz.
[...Lost in the depths of MGTS...]

Long life and an easy death to you
---------==ЁЁ Michael, aka Pilat YЁ==--

░▒▓█▓▒░░▒▓█▓▒░ ░ ░ A big hello to you, Andrew!

[Saturday June 14, 1997] when Andrew Litvinov wrote Starwalker, Yurok had not yet
slept:

AL> I’ll tell you as a musician, from practical experience points of view: 16-bit SB16
AL> are eaten up due to the disgusting circuit, playing digital sound at 44 kHz
AL> consumes enormous amounts of CPU performance, the operation of any SB
AL> is accompanied by hissing, high-frequency whistles, etc.

I disagree with the last statement. SB plays cleanly if the program is good.
I agree about the gluttony. But a true connoisseur of PC sound (the humble I 8-D) will never buy SB 16 and other FM goodness. There is only one piece of advice - AWE32. It has hardware-implemented mixing, so it doesn't slow down, it plays all the mids like digitizations, without taking up (almost) CPU time. Moreover, it has become inexpensive lately, which is good news.

AL> And the GS sounds WITHOUT crackling, noise or squeaking. And it doesn’t waste time on the CPU.

GS is a very talentedly designed scheme, but it lacks mass appeal.
I haven’t seen it here in Ulyanovsk, and where is the software? I don't mean music, but games! And not just one or two, but a certain market. When all this is done, I will say that
GS
on Speccy is an analogue of AWE on PC. For now, this is just a development, a little
promoted, but nothing more.

If you mean Chinese-Taiwanese models, of which the majority are around, then
this is so. For professional work, no hardware like SB is good for anything.
The minimum is Gravis Ultrasound (or professional cards like Yamaha, Roland - from $700 and
above)

AL> playing digital sound at 44 kHz eats up a lot of performance
AL> CPU,

It’s not a pity :)
All the latest games work on digitization, no special brakes are noticeable :)

AL> the operation of any SB is accompanied by hisses, high-frequency whistles,
AL>, etc. And the GS sounds WITHOUT crackling, noise or squeaking. And it doesn’t waste time on the CPU.

By the way, why wasn’t GS made like Gravis Ultrasound? That is, it (GU)
has memory on the board into which samples of AKA instruments are loaded and
commands are given such as to play such and such a note with such and such an instrument with such and such parameters
(something like Adlib in SB, which has taken little root due to its ugliness and
disgusting sound). The advantages are a sharp reduction in the size of the melody,
the ability to easily change instruments and virtually no load on the
processor.
Or did I miss everything again and this has already been done?

Sun 15-Jun-97 22:37, Yurok Merkulov (2:5051/16.5@fidonet) wrote a letter
Andrew Litvinov:

YM> GS is a very talentedly developed scheme, but it lacks mass appeal.

They say the Creator did not make the world in one day built ;)

YM> I haven’t seen it here in Ulyanovsk, and where is the software? I don't mean
YM> music, but games!

And IMHO there are no music. There is an editor, almost ready, bugs are being fixed.

YM> And not just one, but a certain market.

Yesterday I saw Slava. Three games have been released, four more are in progress.

With best wishes, Vladimir.

Monday June 16, 1997 07:32, Konstantin Lomakin wrote to Tim Yunaev:

KL>>> AWE. Has anyone else connected AWE to the Spectrum? :]

TY>> Easily. But why?

KL> Why? We set up the mafon for the whole day to load 8 meter SBK,
KL> then we play mids. Sounds cool.

You buy yourself a disk drive. Many people bought it and don’t complain... Otherwise it’s probably a bit difficult with a tape recorder ;)

But seriously, why doesn’t anyone really want to connect IBM peripherals to
Spectrum? Do we all come up with something of our own?

With respect, Dmitry (OLDMAN).

[.....]

DG> But seriously, why doesn’t anyone really want to connect
DG> IBM peripherals to the Spectrum? Are we all coming up with something of our own?
You yourself once said in your On-Line (and not only there) - “this will no longer be
Spectrum.”

Good luck! Evgeny.

Tuesday June 17 1997, Dmitry Grigoryev writes to Victor Bilyk:

DG> Listen, have you read the Point Memo? I’m not even asking about the policy... I read it there, and back when you were walking under the table...

DG> it is strongly recommended that you study the rules of the echo conference _before_
DG> pouring out your feelings into it. This echo does not discuss the advantages
DG> of Spectrum over PC for users. Those who remember and
DG> love Specky have gathered here. And coming out here with your Gamer opinion at least

^^^^^^^^^ - an attack? When I switched to PC
I made up for the first month, and now I’m working fruitfully. (I kill,
of course, in Duke ACiD//UnreaL GrouP for the coming nap, so that I can sleep better :) )

DG> incorrect. He coded... If you had really achieved at least some

^^^^^^^ - are you driving or what, lamer? For those
times (when the Specky scene had not yet begun to quarrel one-on-one with the PC), I
had pretty good demos... And what I didn’t have time to implement
before leaving... It’s not good, of course, to praise yourself...

DG> success on the Specky, then you should still have an elementary feeling
DG> of respect for this car! The saying about what bothers a bad dancer

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - I typewriterI respect her, but I won’t pray for her. and
I won’t say that the PC is worse either....

DG> heard? So a bad programmer always lacks the resources of the machine...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - justify your words...

DG> Hence your anger...

And the anger makes me understand when a bunch of lamers sit and trash something about which
they have a very vague idea. And if someone sits on his 386 and writes messages in GoldEd, or on the edge in Borland, programs like printf ("Hello world
!"); writes, this does not mean at all that he knows the car.
Hey! Demomakers! Where do we get the effects from? A-ah-ah? With PC? And what's worse at the PC
than yours?

DG> It's a shame :( People like you all started with Spectrums, and yet you behave like
DG> boorishly... I wish you had a strap for the resources...

Victor Bilyk
[UnreaL GrouP]

Tuesday June 17 1997, Alex Letaev writes to Victor Bilyk:

VB>> Hmmm... This is a difficult case. You need to get treatment...
VB>> Then the calculator turns out to be the coolest thing - having bought it in 76, you can
VB>> not upgrade to 97 and calculate on it whatever you want !!! These are the undeniable
VB>> best sides of the calculator...

AL> No, the calculator works best when you buy for $1500
AL> something huge that can’t really work with graphics, not with

^^^^^^^^ you’re just kidding me!
have you even tried it yourself? And you didn't like LFB? Well then, excuse me... you need
Silicon...

AL> for sound (comparability in price), and in order to calculate 2+2 on it, you need

^^^^^^ - and that’s what you’re driving! Actually, my bl%ster is enough for me, but if you want, then for only $170 you can pick up a daughter YAMAHA DB50... And I don’t think that any AMI thread will play better. (otherwise why would they
_themselves_ want to somehow pre-wire the Y DB50)

AL> set the system to 200 meg, and have a minimum frequency of 166!!!

I have PC-DOS (less of a distraction from coding), I don’t remember how much it weighs
~8m... And Windows 3.11 to work with Netscape... ~10m... And about the composter I’m talking about I'm not even saying - 486DX2 66... That's enough for me... No, and I don't need programs (I don't need
notbecause they don’t work), which don’t work for me.
And the buggy 95 wine (which you hinted at with your 200 megas) also works on 386...
Maybe I’ll install it for myself to listen to *.MP3... but not as the main
system... I’ll install System Commander and I won’t suffer...

AL> So you want to say that PC is better in EVERYTHING than Speckie? Read my
AL> answers to the Starwalker, and you will understand. And if not, then answer just one
AL> question: Why did you come here, and why so many people (everyone who is here) until now
AL>, unlike you SMART, haven’t thought of the idea that they need to throw everything
AL> and run to the PC???

What for, what for... Look around, talk to those who are still on the spec. But I can’t sit calmly when the screen says ZX - RULES FOREVER, and PC - FUCKING
BULLSHIT...

I don’t know why they didn’t think of it... And having a PC at home and pounding on something other than GoldEd doesn’t
mean switching to PC...

AL> Rather, the ability to think with your own head has died out among the people, and an
AL> has appeared an irreplaceable opportunity to look at everything through the eyes of Microsoft!!! Have you
AL> seen anything other than the PC???? And actually, you're right: for the uncouth
AL> there is no speckle lamer!!! :-)))))

What did you get along with your Microsoft... For some reason, the PC people seem to you
a bunch of lamers who fall into a series of cyberorgasms when they seescreen
VIH'95...

And if I need to print something beautifully, then I really won't
write my Word and my Corel...

Victor Bilyk
[UnreaL GrouP]

VB> And I get angry when a bunch of lamers sit and trash something
VB> about which they have a very vague idea. And if someone is sitting on their 386 and

This “cloud of lamers” _now_ work on the Spectrum, and not just tell
tales about their unrealized or unknown projects. All your hundred-year-old work can only make people laugh, and it’s not a matter of time - Specky has
changed little.

VB> sends messages in GoldEd, or on the edge in Borland programs like
VB> printf ("Hello world !"); writes, this does not mean at all that he
VB> knows the car.

Are you completely stupid? Here spektrumists program in ASMA! And knowledge of Pascal,
which you are so proud of, and knowledge of PC does not have much weight...

VB> Hey! Demomakers! Where do we get the effects from? A-ah-ah? With PC? And
VB> what is worse on the PC than yours?

Of course worse ;) I would like to see these effects at 3.5 MHz PC ;)

Dmitry (OLDMAN).

VB> when I switched to PC I made up for it in the first month, and now I’m working fruitfully
VB>. (I kill, of course, in Duke ACiD//UnreaL GrouP for bed
VB> coming, so that I can sleep better :) )

Wow, how cool we are!

VB> In those days (when the performance scene had not yet begun
VB> to fight one on one with the PC)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What nonsense? First time I hear it.

Hasta la vista, Victor! See you in Eden!

·∙ Novikov Sergei AKA Spirit/CS ∙·
[Team ZX ASM] [Team AMD - Amiga Must Die]
[Team Aries Rulez Forever]

VB> what
VB> they have a very vague idea about. And if someone sits on his 386 and
VB> churn out
VB> messages in GoldEd, or on the edge in Borland programs like printf
VB> ("Hello world
VB> !"); writes, this doesn’t mean at all that he knows the car.

You’re right, this HUGE & CLOUCH really sits somewhere, but some outstanding
its representatives periodically come out here to make me laugh
and train the kay’s speed!!! :-))))))))))))) And in our country it turns out
a person who is interested in computers MAY NOT KNOW PC???? :-))))))))

AL>> it is necessary
VB> ^^^^^^ - and it’s you who are driving! Actually, my bl%ster is enough for me,
VB> but if
VB> you want, then for only $170 you can pick up a daughter card YAMAHA DB50...
VB> And I don’t
VB> think that in this case some AMI thread will play better. (otherwise why would
VB> they
VB> _themselves_ want to somehow pre-wire the Y DB50)

Have you heard General Sound?????? No!!! Why did you draw conclusions??? And
synthesizers have already clung to midish specs more than once, and imagine the same
quality! I personally heard something similar at work! And there are even midi commands when working with AY, and they are hardwired into BASIC 128!!!!

[killed]

VB> What for, what for... Watch, chat with those who are still on spec. But
VB> I can’t sit still when the screen says ZX - RULES FOREVER, and PC
VB> - FUCKING BULLSHIT...

I don’t think anyone wrote something like that here! Problems with vision???? And the nerve cells don't
set!!!

[killed]

VB> What have you got on with your Microsoft... Something for you PC people
VB> seem like a bunch of lamers who fall into a series of cyberorgasms
VB> when they see on the screen
VB> VYH'95...

So the real abundance of software on the PC is only under him!!!

AL> Bummer, there are no worthy dems on the PC, and therefore it turns out that the effects in the
AL> Spectrum dems are superior, and in the worst case, similar to the effects in the
AL> PCs!!!! :-)))) And some ideas come from the Amiga!!!!

Ha! I have nothing to say about Ami - the PC scene is about a year behind the Amiga... but it's Spekkov's... There are no worthy dems in the PC?!! Visit ftp.luth.se
in pub/msdos/demos/demos and download *.* from subdirectories /1995
/1996, /1997...

Victor Bilyk
[UnreaL GrouP]

AL> Have you seen the Amiga? (not for the sake of OFFtopic!)

It’s not decent to answer a question with a question... :))))))))))))

Are you and I talking about Ami and Speck? Or about PC and Spec?
And I won’t make an off-topic about Ami... I’ve already said everything - it’s
not widespread... And from here all the consequences...

AL> Have you heard General Sound?????? No!!! Why did you draw conclusions??? A

^ - the prefix "z" does not happen, literate...

AL> synthesizers have already clung to midish speckies more than once, and imagine the same thing

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^- gee!
what progress! And I’ll connect it to the PC in 30 seconds
by sticking a cord into the back of my blaster... :)))))))))))))

AL> quality! I personally heard something similar at work! And there are even midi commands when
AL> working with AY, and they are hardwired into BASIC 128!!!!

^^^^^^^^^^ - POWERFUL!!! :))))))))))))))
Gee-gee!!! Have you heard Y Db50?! And GUSya? And a decent professional card
?!!
:))))))))))
I roll up and choke when the Spectrum guys hit themselves in the chest with their heels -
Speccy is better than PC... What does your General Sound give? As far as I heard from
Voxon//FLASH INC. this card plays regardless of the processor... So what? Gus does this with ease... And any card with General Midi? Samemaybe... How much memory does she have?... Gee! And GUS - at least 512k... I just haven’t seen anything less...
Heh? And what is the quantization frequency?!... Heh! And the new PC cards have 55 kHz!
And the instruments seem to become shorter at high altitudes? What about GM? no!
Maybe your card will handle panning? And what about the hardware?...
Don’t make me laugh...

AL> So the real abundance of software on the PC is just for it!!!

Gee! Everything I need works for me under PC DOS 7.0 and windows 3.11+w32...

Victor Bilyk
[UnreaL GrouP]

PS. Don't make me laugh anymore... I'll die!... :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

SN> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
SN> What nonsense? First time I hear it.

Ha! He hears it for the first time!!! Well, don't make me laugh... Poke me at least one NEW (not flp or wild scroller) Speck effect and I'll tell you in which PC
demo it was made before Speck... Gee-gee-gee!

People, let's post the entire ZX.SPECTRUM in HUMOR.FILTERED!!! A good idea
Volker suggested... :-)

Victor Bilyk
[UnreaL GrouP]

there are two types of lameness - one by ability, and the other by conviction..

AL> And if you thought with your head and looked with your eyes, you would discover a very
AL> interesting feature: everyone (almost) who participates in this conference
AL> work in it at the PC or AMI, and Accordingly, only
AL> can envy your _global_ thinking! :-)))))

see above about the bench. By the way, I’m one of the grandmothers ;)))

VB>> and they are spreading the flame “PC is crap”, but think soberly - PC for now
VB>> that RULEZ and a more ruzle car will not appear soon. We don’t take into account the calculation of AMMI, since AMMI has not yet spread...

mmm... did you mean to say that the grave has not grown so much moss yet?

AL> Didn’t you have the wrong conference at an hour? Maybe you wanted to get into the PC, but because of problems with reading, you ended up here? Look at the name!!!!

zx.spectrum.anahranizmus.talk?

imho speck is a manifestation of how you can make a programmer out of a monkey hmm.. well
and how many “hardware guys” have grown up in this field, I’d better keep silent.. those who are now
re-soldering hemp boards and hacking DSP firmware ;)

well, so what can you create a passable computer for 5 spoons of crackers.

┌──────────┐
└─ї┌─ї ┌┐є─┘
──ґ└─╨─┘└ґ sa...@pop.convey.ru / s...@pdmi.ras.ru

Nonsense. You just didn’t see.

AL> and therefore it turns out that the effects in the Spectrum demos are superior,
AL> and in the worst case are similar to the effects in the PCs!!!! :-)))) And so the ideas
AL> some come from the Amiga!!!!

As for the Amiga demos - see the reader's letter to Oberon 3.

[offtopic off]

AL> Sorry, but why did you come here and teach us the ropes???

StarSwalker also started with this ;)

Hasta la vista, Alex! See you in Eden!

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Victor Bilyk to
Alex Letaev Thu Jun 19 1997 at 07:02...

VB> ^^^^^^ - and it’s you who are driving! Actually, my bl%ster is enough for me, but
VB> if you want, then for only $170 you can pick up a daughter card YAMAHA
VB> DB50... And I don’t think that any AMI thread will play better. (
VB> otherwise why would they _themselves_ want to somehow attach the Y DB50 )

Oh... Well, how can you, well, the words Spectrum Rulez
Forever offends you all, well, unsubscribe from the echo, why bother spoiling the nerves of yourself and others? Well
after all, they got it, it’s crazy, what are you doing now, well, what the hell... There are no words.
You shouldn’t ask in su.gam how to change the font in Word or in ru.video jokes
you can’t tell jokes, so why is it possible here? no, I don’t understand...

If you want to continue, go ahead.

With all sorts of regards and wishes.
Igor.

... For some, money is the goal of life, for others, they already have it.

21 Jun 97 09:15, Alex Jivitca reported to Alex Letaev about {SuperSpectrum... Is it needed
?}:

AJ> well, you can make a passable computer for 5 spoons of crackers.

Hmm, “a trend, however” (c) Chukchi - you’ll be third :))

Clearly, another one has begun "Month of Lamer" and other guests of the echo
ZX-Spectrum. :)
Why, come in - every day we have an Open Day. Can you pour out your soul on the topic “Why is my Pentium better than the Spectrum?” or “How to make a tolerable computer for
five spoons of crackers?”.

Warm greetings, Slava!

s\ I, of course, can sell my beloved Pentagon-128 and buy
286yu with this money. But I just don’t understand why she gave up to me? :))

IG> Well, we’re tired of this, that you’re crazy, that you are now, well, what the hell...
IG> There are no words. You probably won’t be able to tell jokes in su.gam, so why is it possible here? no,
IG> I don’t understand...

No, there is another sub for Starhawk and his friends! Even the weak-minded can prove that the PC is better than the Spectrum :)) But it’s weak to go to ru.amiga and prove there that their wretched stump-200 is better than even the simple A1200? :))

Warm greetings, Slava!

Please forgive me in advance E. Stepanov :)))

VM> Hmm, “a trend, however” (c) Chukchi - you’ll be third :))

hm.. what’s the hint? ;)

VM> It’s clear, the next “Month of Lamer” and other guests of the echo
VM> ZX-Spectrum has begun. :)

how can I tell you... I saw all sorts of changes in this echo... starting from
conversations with the propeller, cga, blaster and something else... some conversations did not go further than
conversations.

VM> Well, come in - every day we have an Open Day. Can
VM> pour out your soul on the topic “Why is my Pentium better than the Spectrum?” or “How
VM> make a tolerable computer for five spoons of crackers?”.

I consider this echo to be a semblance of...hmm...well, let's say old radio magazines or mk.
something from childhood and adolescence... it's nice to remember. this situation is similar for
amiga/komodor64/rk/.. you should have seen what happens when a former
Sinclairist and a Komodorian meet;))))) war is not for life and death.

VM> I, of course, can sell my beloved Pentagon-128 and buy 286yu with
VM> this money. But I just don’t understand why she gave up to me? :))

panimash... do you know how THIS happened in St. Petersburg ~4 years ago?
at first many bought XT! and began to sell off their 'remains'...
about 286 then some could not even dream of. I’m generally silent about the three-ruble note.
the new 386sx16 cost ~$100. and do you think it was mass insanity?
well, after a year or twoThe transition from Amiga to PC has begun. and what was bad on the Amiga
you still ask...

by the way, many who bought the Amiga then (from those who are now on the PC) read
this echo ;) but where are those Sinclairists who bought the Sinclairs from us... and God knows
knows ..
I remember the person who riveted controllers for the ZX gradually switched to the
PC platform. I also went through xt. so apparently it's worth something.

and as for 286... let's start with the fact that the screen on it is normal. as a result
it is suitable for communications. You can at least surf the Internet. and in a multitask ;)

well, if you add a little money, then you can run a turbo sinclair on it ;)

so you can see for yourself... the sinclair is now for a very limited contingent of
citizens (most likely for monetary reasons). most likely schoolchildren.

this is my imho.

ps
ktstat second imho. Sinclair will save now only two things - a more or less
standard monitor/terminal (resolution, I mean) and the ability to easily
connect a modem.
games and software for a long time without communication are not enough.

I know that this is _almost_ there. but this should be a _standard_ delivery
so to speak.

Answering yld Saturday, the 21 of June 1997:

AJ> what? name at least _one_ real advantage other than the price (and that’s no longer a fact) of the spec?! I have a smarter screw than the one lying in the box. although things
AJ> you yourself understand are incomparable... but still the iron of the 85-90 model makes itself felt
AJ>.

Another one! StarSwalker has opened a new season? ;) How much can you do? And it’s not clear
what you want to achieve: all of the above has been written here
more than a dozen times... I’m tired.

P.S.2Moderator: I’m leaving, I’m leaving, but I ask these people with whom I just talked
to stop. And then, damn it, they once had a spec, so they decide to make fun of them, to make fun of them. And they don’t even notice that people mostly have emulators rather than specs, that they are interested here, that they are connected by interests. Such people simply
do not understand that they deeply offend the feelings of the subscribers of this echo. I can still
understand that Step and Milun are swearing, they at least echotag (more or less) swearing,
but then... :((

... With sclerosis, you can forget everything. But not your own merits.

VB> KNOW? Yes, I see YOU here know the PC so well...
VB> I repeat - in GoldEd, every lamer can write letters... Even my
VB> little
VB> brother... But I’m afraid he even knows more about the PC than you do...
VB> even if he’s not very good at ASM yet, but that’s okay, because he’s only 12...

In your opinion, if a person is a spektrumist and has a PC, then he doesn’t know it, and
you know PC alone??? :-)))))

[killed]

At 21:29, Saturday June 21 1997 it was such a thing that
Victor Bilyk wrote a letter to Alex Letaev:

VB> What progress! And I’ll connect it to the PC in 30 seconds by sticking a cord into
VB> the back of my blaster... :)))))))))))))
It’s better to stick it in your ass and run 220V through it ;-) You’ll get such a high-quality
sound ;-)))) Best of all GUS, AWE etc ;-))))

VB> I roll up and I choke when Spectrum people hit themselves with their heels in
VB> chest - Specky is better than PC...
But you compare XT and Specky and tell me which is better??? Pipi at 3.5 MHz on CGA
scroll jumping at a frequency of 50fps will not be able to run. And if Specky had been overclocked to 100 MHz, then in terms of effects in the demos it would have surpassed any Pentium, and the Spectrum DUM would have worked on the entire screen at 50 fps, and there would still have been a ton of time left, for example, on the cool intelligence of the creatures. So there's no point in driving
Speccy.
VB> What does your General Sound give? As far as I
VB> heard from Voxon//FLASH INC. this card plays regardless of
^^^^^ Who is this??? I heard about Wakson, but about Voxon...
VB> prot... Well, so? Gus does this with ease... And any card with
VB> General Midi? maybe too... How much memory does she have?... Gee! And GUS -
VB> at least 512k... I just haven’t seen anything less... Heh? And what frequency
VB> quantization?!... Heh! And the new PC cards have 55 kHz! And instruments
And GS has about 38KHz (if I'm not mistaken). Isn’t it enough for you???
VB> why do they get shorter at the tall ones? What about GM? No ! Maybe your
MIDI is MIDI, and MODs are MODs, and there’s no point in mixing incompatible concepts.
VB> card
VB> and panning will work? And the hardware dolby?... Don't make me laugh...
Do you want a sound station for yourself or a computer for the soul??? You sort out your desires
and thoughts first, but for now, shut up and dry your pussy...
You're ruining people's mood here...

At 21:04, Saturday June 21 1997 there was such a thing that
Victor Bilyk wrote a letter to Sergei Novikov:

VB> Ha! He hears it for the first time!!! Well, don't make me laugh... Poke me at least
VB> into one NEW (not flp or wild scroller) Specky effect and I'll tell you
VB> in which PC demo it was made before Specky... Gee-gee-gee!
For example, I recently wrote an effect for Specky and you'll hesitate go through pussy demos, because the effect is completely new. And in general, such original
effects in spec demos, I apologize, at least chew your butt.
VB> People, let's post the entire ZX.SPECTRUM in HUMOR.FILTERED!!!
VB> Volker proposed a sensible
VB> idea... :-)
Not practical, but stupid and lame.

With disrespect, Roman.

VM>> PS\ I, of course, can sell my beloved Pentagon-128 and buy 286yu with this
VM>> money. But I just don’t understand why she gave up to me? :))

IM> You'll sell horseradish.

Yeah. It’s a pity to give such a beauty into the wrong hands.

Warm greetings, Slava!

RP> People! Let's continue to convince him that Specky is better and that he drove
RP> ahead! There will be one less lamer in the world ;-))))))

It is useless to convince such people. It won't reach.

Hasta la vista, Roman! See you in Eden!

RP> ^^^^^ Who is this??? I heard about Wakson, but about
RP> Voxon...
that’s him, now this is his PC nickname.

See you,
Ivan.

VB>> I repeat - in GoldEd every lamer can write letters... Even my
VB>> little
VB>> brother... But I’m afraid he even knows more about the PC than you do...
VB>> even if he’s not very good at ASM yet, but that’s okay, because he’s just 12...

AL> In your opinion, if a person is a spektrumist and has a PC, that means he doesn’t know it
AL>, but you’re the only one who knows the PC??? :-)))))

No, he doesn’t know... Only his little brother knows... ;)

Andrey Fedorov AKA Alien

[killed]

VL> And so that I remember ;) I remember only the first one - target renegad. With sound from
VL> the awesome Capital Punishment. Eyewitnesses say that this is something
VL> unreal ;) If you are interested, I will find out the whole list.

Is this serious???!!! Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you developing it for yourself or for people?
Looks like it’s for yourself IMHO.

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__ /// AMIGA 600HD 2Mb 3a I say goodbye,
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\XX/ ZyXEL U-1496E+ Alexander Maksimov

VB>>> Gee! I have everything I need under PC DOS 7.0 and windows 3.11+w32
AL>> Everything you need does not mean that there is enough for everyone!!!

VM> If a person in 1997 has enough windows 3.11 (!), then this says a lot about
VM> :))
VM> It’s the same as using programs exclusively from 1984
VM> on Spec :))

The globality of this comrade’s thinking is clear!!! :-))))

VB>>> I repeat - in GoldEd every lamer can write letters... Even my
VB>>> little
VB>>> brother... But I’m afraid he even knows more than you about PC...
VB>>> even if he’s not very good at ACM yet, but that’s okay, because he’s just 12...
AL>> In your opinion, if a person is a spektrumist and has a PC, that means he doesn’t know it
AL>>, but you’re the only one who knows the PC??? :-)))))

Wed Jun 25 1997, Andrew MOA concocted a letter to Dmitry Grigoryev:

DG>> But seriously, why doesn’t anyone really want to connect
DG>> IBM peripherals to the Spectrum? We all come up with something of our own?

AM> This is much more interesting.

- do you love children?
- I can’t stand it, but the process itself..

With best wishes, Michael.

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Maksimov
Alexander to All Sat Jun 28, 1997 at 00:45...

MA> Are you developing it for yourself or for people?
MA> Looks like it’s for yourself IMHO.

Even if this is so, is it bad? Moreover, the entire echo has already signed the death warrant for this project.

Glad to welcome you, Slava!

VM>>> Reading again :)) Especially about graphics, fortunately the modem is not lost
VM>>> problem. So there was a sub about this... (about the Sprinter with 4 GB/28 MHz and video
VM>>> 640x512x256 colors)

MI>> At least in this letter I came across something specific about the Sprinter.

If you are so interested, you can call the f. Peters t. (812) 132-05-86

VM> This is “specific” - Sprinter to the maximum :) The base model is more modest
VM> (1MGB/14MHz, respectively, at maximum resolution - 16 colors (for now))

Well, if further f. Peters will continue the policy of “minimum price -
maximum opportunities”, then IMHO the maximum 4Mb/28Mhz/640x512x256color will become the
minimum. And the maximum memory will increase to 64Mb.

VM> Warm greetings, Slava!

Best regards, Denis.

Sunday.. it’s 24 minutes 10 o’clock.. it’s June 1997, already the 22nd..
Alex Jivitca wrote for Vyacheslav Mednonogov:

[grizzly mice]

VM>> I, of course, can sell my beloved Pentagon-128 and buy on
VM>> this money is 286yu. But I just don’t understand why she gave up to me? :))
AJ> panimash... do you know how THIS happened in St. Petersburg ~4 years ago?
AJ> at first many bought XT! and began to sell off their 'leftovers'...

XT... it would be good, otherwise many then grabbed the "Search"... and this is not yet XT, but
no longer a calculator... And the specs in St. Petersburg had their heyday... My dad then
also riveted them, for friends... with film-touch keyboards ;))

AJ> then some even dreamed about 286 couldn't. I’m generally silent about the three-ruble note.
AJ> the new 386sx16 cost ~$100.

H "0" more, i.e. ~$1000, because just a year ago, 386 mother with stone and meter
cost ~55$

AJ> and do you think it was a mass insanity? well, a year or two later
AJ> began the transition from Amiga to PC. and what was bad about the Amiga, you can ask...

Amiga..., I then (more precisely 2 years earlier, in 90-91) was sleeping and saw a Yamaha
(yes, that very one... KyBT-2), what colors, what speed... and what kind of
basic ;))) (and the sound was decent, and the percentage was Motorola). Just recently some
person was selling this... II gave him a phone number, I wanted to buy it, for the sake of fond memory...
he never called :((

AJ> by the way, many who bought an Amiga back then (from those who are now on PC)
AJ> are reading this echo ;) but where are those Sinclairists who bought Sinclairs from us... and
AJ> God knows.. I remember the person riveting controllers for zx
AJ> gradually moved on under the PC platform. I also went through xt. So
AJ> apparently it’s worth something.

I have friends who bought specs for their kids... only those
kids really don’t care about spec, he has 2 cassettes - 3 floppy disks, he is happy...

Although a new generation of Spectrum fans is growing... That’s what I have on mine. /651
one of the points asked to write out all the special echoes and fehs...

AJ> and about 286... let's start with the fact that the screen on it is normal. As a result
AJ> it is suitable for communications on the Internet, and in
AJ> multitask ;)

Well, the spec allows you to climb in Fido ???
And for the Internet, too. 486 is not enough... and it’s completely unnecessary with the spec in the and-no, the spec wasn’t
created for that... Although the sprinter-staer, this new one, may be able to pull it off...

AJ> well, if you add a little money, then you can run a turbo sinclair on it
AJ> ;)
AJ> so you can see for yourself... the sinclair is now well for a very limited
AJ> contingent of citizens (most likely according tomonetary considerations). most likely
AJ> schoolchildren. this is my imho.

Quite right... taking into account the Russian economic situation, Spec is
a good solution for schoolchildren, and if this SuperSpec itself can also help
the child to be on friendly terms with MS (after all, they use MS in business), then he will only be
grateful later...

AJ> ps ktstat second imho. Sinclair will save now only two things - a more or less
AJ> standard monitor/terminal (resolution, I mean) and the ability
AJ> to easily connect a modem. There are not enough games and programs for a long time without communication
AJ>.

We need to somehow attract only the still growing youth to the network... otherwise
we’ll launch it and that’s it... How are things going with ftn-mailers for spec??? I would take
points...

Bye! & 73!, Vladimir

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