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Mon 09 Jun 1997 16:09, Sergei Novikov wrote to All:

SN> To compile
SN> complete lists, you will need to provide your address and telephone number. The goal is
SN> to find out how many people there are on ZX.

SN> And then, when the lists are in hand, it will be possible to collect tribute ;)))
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Well, the wording. This will look like a racket ;)

Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

Answering yld Tuesday, the 10 of June 1997:

SN>> You yourself say that a lot of pictures are already ready.

YM> It doesn’t matter... You need to do an intro, a final cut, intermediate inserts...
YM> The script involves flights from planet to planet, so work for
YM> there is a lot of artist.

SN>> Who needs one game for 120 grand? The idea was to donate
SN>> money to support game makers, and not to create games.

YM> :)))))) So the money goes to beer? :)))) Gamemakers say “thank you” and
YM> leave :)))) And everyone is happy: those who donated money are happy that
YM> supported their favorite gamemakers, and gamemakers are happy with good beer...
YM> :))

No. For example, a professional game maker and ZX fan. He would be ready to sit from
morning to evening and write nonsense if he didn’t have to look for work somewhere.
For example, one and a half lemons would be enough for him to throw himself into creating a new game for a month.

SN>> And this is just from one city. And we have fewer projects than cities
SN>> :)

YM> Let's be specific. How many projects and how many cities?

Cities in which ZX lives? Half the country. Decent projects - 5-10.

SN>> As I understand it, the income from Spectrophone is much greater... $900*7
SN>> month=$6300 ;)

YM> 8-()Where do these numbers come from??

7 months for 300 bucks each for 3 people. :)

SN>> And IFK, such a bastard, doesn’t want to give $500 ;)

YM> Uh-huh... And not 500, but even 200 he won’t give...

;))

MD.

He won’t - Oldman will say in the issue everything he thinks about him ;))) - IFK
sales will be halved. :). numbers? They only say that in the same IFC they are not fools
YM> sitting and realizing that they will sell 750 discs for a very long time, and
YM> will only just get their money back. And they also want to eat...

750 disks with ZH2? Will they really not sell it in a month? IMHO, the game will sell
no worse than the CV with the Citadel.

SN>> Well, the script is written at the beginning, in the first month. The rest of the time
SN>> the screenwriter has nothing special to do - you can cut your salary to 2 rubles
SN>> per month ;)))))) Will you go? There's nothing to do in the summer anyway
SN>> there's nothing to do ;))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

YM> I'd rather go south... Well, it's all to the devil! :) Bye!

Eh... First, finish the number. And then head north.

Hasta la vista, Yury! See you in Eden!

·∙ Novikov Sergei AKA Spirit/CS [Team ZX ASM]∙·

Tue 03 Jun 1997 03:18, Alex Mikhailov wrote to Alexey Ivanov:

AI>> I can only say about BBSs that distribute new proprietary software. No restrictions will help here.

AM> I will never agree with this. everything
AM> depends on the network, on the Charter, on the
AM> coord and his deputies, on the sysops
AM> and on online publications. the example of SpbZxNet -
AM> is proof of this. on the Internet you can
AM> fight piracy, if you have the desire.

Yes, if the sysop wants to distribute pirated software, he laid it on both you and the
Charter. And he lives wonderfully, and he can even afford to cover the entire network in some newspaper. And physically he will be able to respond to all the pressure ;)

You know the joke: a news story is coming out. A couple of hours later the same thing comes out, but with changed
content ;) Analogue: newspaper LIME THREE and LIMER THREE - at first glance you can’t tell the difference...

AM> fight. There are a lot of ways
AM> to attract people to bbs, besides
AM> hacked programs. there is, after all,
AM> the honor of the sysop. I, as a sysop, would just be ashamed
AM> to brazenly post hacks
AM> on the board.

Each station has its own audience: you have people who like to rant, while another,
for example, likes the latest software. For another, it’s a sysop’s honor not to put texts and chatter on the board... OhThere is no dispute about tastes and imposing and discussing this is generally stupid. You will consider it dishonest if someone starts discussing
your furniture in your apartment and imposing another...

AM> we must fight not with the prohibitions in the Charter,
AM> although this is not superfluous. you just need to remember
AM> that sysops are people too, and if
AM> it’s normal to talk to them like a human being,
AM> they won’t distribute broken programs.

This is true for stations that are on the network. The Charter says: no way, those who agree go to the network. And whoever disagrees will open their own BBS or create their own
alternative network (and also with an INTERNET gateway and unlimited traffic to
software without any UU-junk).

Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

Tue 03 Jun 1997 03:18, Alex Mikhailov wrote to Sergei Novikov:

SN>> What to do with underground BBS???
AM> hmm... do such things really exist? if bbs
AM> is not on the bbs list, then it is not a station, but simply

If you don’t look further than your flop...

Your BBS lists are not needed for lovers of new software!
They have their own lists. And people climb into such stations in bulk. They don't need advertising in the online press. We need to objectively assess reality, and not fly in
the clouds...

Yes, this is not a node, but it is a STATION, namely a BBS, focused on hacking.
And there are more than 50 of these, unpublished ones, on PCs, for example, in Moscow... you can’t
call them...

AM> we haven’t even had to fight yet -
AM> we didn’t have them and don’t have them. young people
AM> take an example from experienced sysops, and old people
AM> have never set a bad example.

...there will be more.

an experienced sysop - the one who has been running a station on Vikomka for 6 months?

AM> you should have done this a long time ago. from the very
AM> beginning of the network. and not let everything take its course with the words “why fight with them
AM> - it’s still useless.”
AM> as you can see, it’s not useless.

Well, in general... We don’t have such stations on the network, but there are a bunch of free BBSes,
information about which no one publishes anywhere, nevertheless they
are successful. It was simply impossible not to with Vikomkanetwork to make a station, you have clamped the software. And when people have free software to support BBS, you will also have free BBS OFF
NETWORKS, and even raids around St. Petersburg will go to very correct
sysops.

Save this letter and re-read it closer to winter.

These are not raids. This is me sharing my experience with you. And don’t promise that this won’t happen again. The younger generation, 13-15 years old, will come and create their own network, independent of yours, with gates in both Internet and FIDO. And you can’t do anything with them.

Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

AM> a person pumping toys to several
AM> of his friends. even if

Alex has delusions of grandeur ;)

With respect, Alexey Ivanov

Saturday June 07, 1997 19:56, Sergei Novikov wrote to Dmitry Grigoryev:

DG>> The Land of Myths is also full of graphics stolen from other games ;)

SN> I don’t know. You can't say that about Adventurer 5.

Actually, in the intro the graphics are entirely from some kind of rpg ;) And the brakes...

DG>> Are you sure they twitch? I didn’t notice...

SN> We definitely have different versions.

I sent you mine, and what’s going on there? ;)

SN> I don’t know. In Agaev's version, it's better not to see the ugly sprites, and
SN> the "animation" - even more so.

You should just scold them ;) KB2 is the best of all kb-like games :)

SN>>> I'm not even talking about the stupidity of the construction - the game is impassable.

DG>> Yes? And I almost ;) passed somehow... It's pretty easy.

SN> Quite cool. I looked through the save, made myself almost the strongest
SN> army possible (the experience level is close to overflowing) - and this
SN> was not enough to kill even the second guard. What about the rest? ;)

I sent you my save - what do you think? ;)

SN> ·∙ Novikov Sergei AKA Spirit/CS [Team ZX ASM] ∙·

Sincerely, Dmitry (OLDMAN).

SN>> this was not enough to kill even the second guard. But what about
SN>> the rest? ;)

DG> I sent you my save - what do you think? ;)

What do you think? =) You apparently sent me the wrong save ;) Or do you consider this the end
of the game? ;) I passed it once every 50 days ;))) Details - in soap, if you want.

Hasta la vista, Dmitry! See you in Eden!

SN>> Totally cool. I looked through the save, made myself almost the most
SN>> strongest army possible (the experience level is close to overflowing) - and
SN>> this was not enough to kill even the second guard. But what about
SN>> the rest? ;)

They once said:

SN> No. For example, a professional game maker and ZX fan. He would be ready
SN> to sit from morning to evening and write nonsense, if he did not have to look for work somewhere
SN>. For example, one and a half lemons will be enough for him to spend
SN> a month completely immersed in creating a new game.

You announce this to everyone - how many of them are there?

SN> Cities in which ZX lives? Half the country. Decent projects - 5-10.

:)