"Star Legacy" - FREEWARE

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From Dmitry Grigoryev To All 4 January 1998


Hello, All!

In general, the subject. The author's version without protection can be downloaded (for now) only at
ftp://univ.uniyar.ac.ru/home/webadm/museum_files/ZX_Spectrum/games/star_inh.arj


══════════╡ImportBegin LICENSE.TXT╞════════════════════════════════
"Star Heritage. Part 1. Black Cobra"
(c) STEP 1995

Program status - FREEWARE.

Allowed - free use, free non-commercial
distribution, copying, translation to other media.

Prohibited - commercial distribution without agreement with
the author, changes in copyright, any changes to the code.

The program is distributed "AS IS", without author's
accompaniment.

The authors reserve the right to change the status
of the program at any time.

Creative group STEP, 12/27/97
══════════╡ImportEnd LICENSE.TXT╞════════════════════════════════

Regards, Dmitry (OLDMAN).
ZXNet: 095/100.1
old...@i-connect.ru


From Vyacheslav Mednonogov To All 5 January 1998


Get Msg, Dmitry!

04 Jan 98 07:45, Dmitry Grigoryev reported All about {"Star Legacy" -
FREEWARE}:

DG> ══════════╡ImportBegin LICENSE.TXT╞════════════════════════════════
DG> "Star Legacy. Part 1. Black Cobra"
DG> Program status - FREEWARE.

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The following software products of the Mednonogov brothers
(Copper Feet) since January 1, 1998 are freely
distributed:

Fool
Pinocchio
ABC-1
ABC-2
Arithmetic
Drawing
VideoSports
GameBox
Technical English-Russian Dictionary
UFO. Enemy unknown
UFO-2. Devils of the Abyss

In addition, commercial use is permitted,
changing copyrights, translating accompanying texts
into other languages, modifying code and using
pieces of code in any other software products, as well as
any other use (if it does not contradict
the laws of the Russian Federation)

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Note:
All rights to the program "Tankodrom" 55491" belong
to the publishing house "Piter".

Vyacheslav and Alexey Mednonogov
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Warm greetings, Slava!


From Denis Markelov To All 5 January 1998

VM> -+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+---

VM> The following software products of the Mednonogov brothers
VM> (Copper Feet) since January 1, 1998 are free
VM> distributed:...

[gnawed out with meat]
It's like some kind of epidemic :) Who's next:?

Sincerely, GodFather.


From Vyacheslav Mednonogov To All 6 January 1998

DM> Just some kind of epidemic :) Who's next :?

Come on... Like: "The game 'St. Petersburg Mortal Kombat' is frivolous even before
its release" ;)))


Warm greetings, Slava!


From Evgeny Milun To All 6 January 1998

[.....]

Welcome ( ;))) ) to the association of freeware programmers!!!!! :)))

P.S. By the way, this actually exists. I just forgot what it
is called.

Good luck! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.


From Dmitry Grigoryev To All 6 January 1998


Hello, Vyacheslav!

Monday January 05, 1998 01:40, Vyacheslav Mednonogov wrote to Dmitry Grigoryev:

[rules omitted...]

VM> In addition, commercial use is permitted,
VM> changing copyrights, translating accompanying texts
VM> into other languages, code modification and use
VM> pieces of code in any other software products, and
VM> as well as any other use (if it does not contradict
VM> the laws of the Russian Federation)

from the mind... You are cooler :-) But where can I get all this stuff? You would dig it up for yourself, provide it with a similar piece of paper, give it to Andrei Savchenko, and then it would be a matter of
technique... Or in the science department? Eh?

VM> Warm greetings,
VM> Slava!

From Eugene Malkov To All 7 January 1998

DG> Allowed - free use, free non-commercial
DG> distribution, copying, translation to other media.
[skipped]

What's the point? Those who didn’t give a damn about copyrights sold it anyway.
And because it became freeware, they are neither hot nor cold; they will
sell it, even though it is prohibited.

Hasta la vista.
Tim Kelly.


From Eugene Malkov To All 7 January 1998

VM>> In addition, commercial use is permitted,
VM>> changing copyrights, translating accompanying texts
VM>> into other languages, modifying code and using
VM>> pieces of code in any other software products, and
VM>> also any other use (if it does not contradict-
VM>> the laws of the Russian Federation)

From Dmitry Grigoryev To All 7 January 1998

VM> Come on... Like: “The game 'St. Petersburg Mortal Kombat' is frivolous
VM> even before its release" ;)))

8-0 Isn't it released yet? It seems that the authors claimed that the game was ready last summer
and they were waiting for Inlight...

VM> Warm greetings, Slava!

From Dmitry Grigoryev To All 8 January 1998


Hello, Eugene!

Wednesday January 07, 1998 18:45, Eugene Malkov wrote to Dmitry Grigoryev:

EM> What's the point? Those who didn't care about copyrights sold it and
EM> like that. And because it has become freeware, they are neither cold nor hot; so
EM> they will sell, although it is prohibited.

It is forbidden not to sell, but to make money - to sell licenses, to use
exclusive rights, etc. And to distribute game floppy disks at the regular price - for God's sake... What's the point? There are civilized traders who care about their prestige
and do not risk violating obvious prohibitions. And there are young people... who now
feel free (they just haven’t gotten it in the head yet). You can only understand the author's ambitions by being in the shoes of the author of a _commercial_ product and a couple of times
seeing how his labor and his property are brazenly traded
by such youngsters.

PS: Are you a trader? Did you buy the right to sell ChV and Format 7? What's the point?

EM> Hasta la vista.
EM> Tim Kelly.

From Vyacheslav Mednonogov To All 8 January 1998

Small programs, such as “D-k”, “B-no”, etc., I think, are everywhere... The author's
UFO-1 will forever remain in a protected version, not understood by emulators (the source codes
are in Gens, but the secrets of the layout are forever lost). It's easier with UFO-2 - there is
the author's version without scratches. Recently distributed to traders (even went to Donetsk
:). It will be possible to somehow distill the thread into .FDI and give it to 2AS...

Warm greetings, Slava!


From Dmitry Grigoryev To All 9 January 1998


Hello, Vyacheslav!

Thursday January 08, 1998 02:08, Vyacheslav Mednonogov wrote to Dmitry Grigoryev:

VM> Small programs, like “D-k”, “B-but”, etc., I think they are everywhere...

It is there... I’m talking about collecting all this in one place together with
demo versions and post them on the Internet in a folder with your name.

VM> The author's UFO-1 will forever remain in a protected version, ununderstood

There will still be a bunch of pirated versions that you have now practically legitimized...

VM> emulators (the source codes are in Gens, but the secrets of the layout are forever
VM> lost). It’s easier with UFO-2 - there is an original version without scratches.
VM> Recently distributed to traders (even went to Donetsk :). It will be possible
VM> to somehow distill the thread into .FDI and give it to 2AS...

Don’t be lazy ;)

From Vyacheslav Mednonogov To All 9 January 1998

VM>> Come on... Like: “The game 'St. Petersburg Mortal Kombat' is
VM>> frivolous even before its release" ;)))

DG> 8-0 Isn't it released yet? It seems that the authors claimed that the game was ready last
DG> summer, they were waiting for Inlight...

XLD did not give the green light at the time. And it’s generally unclear what’s wrong with MK
:(

Warm greetings, Slava!


From Eugene Malkov To All 9 January 1998


Thursday January 08 1998 07:00, Dmitry Grigoryev squeezed the keyboard, hoping that the following words would reach
Eugene Malkov:

DG> It is forbidden not to sell, but to make money - to sell licenses,
DG> to use an exclusive right, etc. And distribute at the usual price

What, without this ban, someone did this?

DG> the price of a game floppy disk - for God's sake... What's the point? There are civilized

Where is this written? I don't remember! Commercial distribution without
consent with the author was prohibited. And commercial distribution will be considered that
I will charge even a couple of kopecks for the program (not the media).

DG> traders who care about their prestige and do not risk violating obvious
DG> prohibitions.

Thank you for remembering us! Yes, we will never sell ZH until we
receive permission from Yuriy Matveev in writing, since we didn’t have time to buy
him when it was possible.

DG> And there are young people... who now feel free
DG> (they just haven’t gotten it in the head yet). You can understand the author's ambitions
DG> only by being in the shoes of the author of a _commercial_ product and seeing a couple of
DG> times how his labor, his property is blatantly
DG> sold by such youngsters.

That is why we distribute only licensed products, paying
money to the authors for them or receiving them as gifts. And we believe that ZHnot available to us
just as before.

DG> PS: Are you a trader? Did you buy the right to sell ChV and Format 7? What's the point?

In my opinion, you yourself answered this question.

PS Let the Spectrum survive! Pay the authors for their work!

From Dmitry Grigoryev To All 10 January 1998

EM> Thank you for remembering us!

Yes, I always remember you ;) I remembered especially often when we were selling the last
Spectrophones... And where did you all hide then? ;)

EM> Yes, we will never sell ZH until we receive permission from
EM> Yuri Matveev in writing, since we didn’t have time to buy it when
EM> it was possible.

Firstly, you could buy at any time before December 27th. Secondly, after the 27th
you have already received such permission for free. You saw the license agreement signed by
STEP. I have popularly explained what “commercial distribution” is. No, well, of course, you can go to Moscow for written permission,
since you don’t trust this ;)

EM> This is why we distribute only licensed products, paying
EM> money for them to the authors or receiving them as a gift.

Well done! By the way, did you buy Western software or received it as a gift? That's right - the second one. Do you have written permission for “commercial” trade? ;)
You’re strange, they give it to you, and you’re almost offended by it...

EM> And we believe that ZH is inaccessible to us just as much as before.

Consider... What should we do, force it on you?

From Eugene Malkov To All 11 January 1998

DG> Yes, I always remember about you ;) I remembered it especially often when we

Yes, we had a hiccup in Donetsk when we remembered...:( We just
bought 22-23 SPF, waited until it arrived, and after a week and a half... It’s good that we have the echo file is not running, otherwise it’s a gift... :( I hope they won’t become frivolous
in a week, huh? Otherwise, we haven’t paid for the license yet.

DG> Firstly, you could buy at any time before December 27th. Secondly,
DG> after the 27th you already received such permission for free. The license
DG> agreement signed by STEP, you I saw what “commercial
DG> distribution is,” I popularly explained. No, well, of course
DG> you can go to Moscow for written permission,
DG> since you don’t trust that kind of thing ;)

I wrote there, I only saw a letter from one person.
And it was too late to buy - we are not philanthropists to invest money in a obviously
lost business. We would gladly invest ZH-2, even forward.

From Eugene Safronov To All 12 January 1998

Sorry, but what right do you have to talk about what you don’t know? We
are engaged in trading _LICENSED_ programs, the authors of _Western_ programs have not offered us
licenses yet.

DG> Consider... Should we force it on you?

Well, if you pay extra, we’ll think about it :)

DG> Sincerely, Dmitry (OLDMAN).

[Team "Black Raven"]

Well, pakeda, Dmitry, pakeda!


From Dmitry Meniaylov To All 12 January 1998


Hello, hello my friend Dmitry!


Wed Jan 07 1998, at 09:25, Dmitry Grigoryev wrote to Vyacheslav Mednonogov:

VM>> Come on... Like: "The game 'St. Petersburg Mortal Kombat' is frivolous
VM>> even before its release" ;)))

From Dmitry Grigoryev To All 13 January 1998

EM> Thanks for explaining. We, too, will probably have to explain this to every user
EM> :)

Well, what arrogant users you have ;) Sorry, but these are your problems.

EM> Yeah, we already had a hiccup in Donetsk when we remembered...:( We just
EM> bought 22-23 SPF, waited until it will arrive, but in a week or a week and a half...

Not in a week or a week and a half.

EM> It’s good that we don’t have an echo file, otherwise it’s a gift... :(

So. It didn’t affect you. However, you consider yourself right to reproach
me for this... Are you sure that I didn’t calculate the fae’s route before throw in
SPF? Not a single trader has yet admitted that this has hurt him (now someone
is just admitting it out of a desire to annoy him ;)

EM> I hope they won’t become frivolous in a week, eh?

Actually, they are already frivolous ;) But you can sell them as before, the authors
have no complaints (it’s a shame that you can’t object to me now. “You’re not the author,” right? ;)

EM> And we haven’t paid for the license yet.

Sorry again, I don’t believe you! You didn’t sell 10-15 sets in six months (?) I don’t believe you. And if you have 5 spektrumists in your city and they all suffer from stepophobia, then
you, as a trader, have screwed up by buying a license for something that is not in demand in advance. product in your region. We didn’t recoup the costs of the latest issues,
but we only blame ourselves - it’s not enough.advertised, took his word for it where
this should not have been done, showed inertia, slowed down, in a word.

DG>> go to Moscow for written permission, since you don’t trust someone like that
DG>> ;)

EM> I wrote there at the top, I only saw a letter from one person.

You saw a letter from a group member in which the license was quoted agreement
signed by the entire group. Are you again trying to meddle in our internal affairs?

EM> And it’s too late to buy - we are not philanthropists to invest money in
EM> a obviously lost cause. We would gladly invest in ZH-2, even
EM> forward.

Judging by the “success” of the latest Spectrophones in your city, I would advise you not
to rush...

From Dmitry Grigoryev To All 13 January 1998

ES> Sorry, but what right do you have to talk about what you don’t know? We

Actually, I didn’t write this to you ;) There is no need to take everything that I ask from
one specific person at your own expense.

ES> we are engaged in trading _LICENSED_ programs, the authors of _Western_
ES> programs have not yet offered us licenses.

And you from them did you ask? Yes, I see in vain I was looking for evidence of the frivolity of Western programs... It’s all down the drain. That’s what I need, don’t be a sword bead... ;(
(the last statement does not apply to everyone)

I understand that you don’t sell Western programs? Listen, can anyone confirm your
words? However, no need, I’ll check it myself... It’s not that I don’t trust you, but it’s just a very interesting fact in itself. You are the second who
admits that you have not sold and do not sell unlicensed software, just
purchased.

2MR: Max, and you said that there are no honest traders... Here they are - in
one day two showed up at once!

From Sergei Novikov To All 13 January 1998

ES> Sorry, but what right do you have to talk about what you don’t know? We
ES> are engaged in trading _LICENSED_ programs, the authors of _Western_ programs
ES> have not yet offered us licenses.

Are you waiting for what they will offer? ;)

And trading only in licensed, domestic programs, without selling
Western new products, is the wrong step, IMHO. This makes it more difficult to stay afloat, and therefore to continue selling licensed software. Western software, IMHO, should
be some help for the trader, something that will keep him afloat and
allow him to purchase new licensed programs. I think the authors of Western games
would not object to the serving of their games in Russia if they were informed about the situation with
Spectrum here.


With God's blessing, Sergei Novikov AKA Spirit/STEP

ZxNet: 095/100.99, FidoNet: 2:5020/689.1, InterNet: reviv...@chat.ru
Phone: (095) 952-46-19 [16.00-18.00]


From Arseniy Astapenko To All 13 January 1998

With best wishes, Ars^FTL
mailto:ars...@usa.net
http://i-connect.ru/~fatality

* thank you very much... ;)

From Sergei Novikov To All 13 January 1998

AA> Exactly. And they would say: here’s humanitarian aid for you, traders! :)

With such and such income... These $10 a week would make them laugh ;) or ;(.


With God's blessing, Sergei Novikov AKA Spirit/Scenergy Moscow/RF/CIS

From Arseniy Astapenko To All 14 January 1998

From Eugene Malkov To All 14 January 1998

ES>> license, I wait for half a month until the ZH arrives, and in the end I receive
ES>> a gift for the New Year - the ZH has become frivolous :( What is the point then
ES>> ??

SN> Did you buy a license on December 26? I wonder if anyone in _97_ actually bought a license for him?

This was an example, don’t pretend that you didn’t understand.

SN> Are you waiting for what they will offer? and continue to trade licensed
SN> software. Western software, IMHO, should be some help for the
SN> trader, in that it will keep him afloat and allow him to purchase
SN> new licensed programs. I think the authors of Western games would not object
SN> to selling their games in Russia if they were informed about the situation
SN> with Spectrum here.

We can only guess about this. But we don’t want big money - we have
other sources. Everyone is trying to help Speckie, so we decided to do it this way!
The authors write not hoping to receive a huge fee.

Sorry for answering for Zhenya, he is temporarily unavailable here. access.

From Eugene Malkov To All 14 January 1998

ES>> they haven’t offered us software licenses yet.

DG> Have you asked them? Yes, I see I was in vain looking for evidence
DG> of the frivolity of Western programs... It’s all down the drain. That's what I need,
DG> not swords and beads... ;( (the last statement does not apply to everyone)

It is very difficult to determine the line of legality - after all, if I'm not mistaken, it
says something about the safety of the original code, and this could be discussed for a year and
nothing achieved!

DG> As I understand it, you don’t sell Western programs? Listen, and
DG> can anyone confirm your words? However, no need, I’ll check it myself
DG> It’s not that I don’t trust you, but it’s just a fact in itself

Ugh, damn, there’s someone from Donetsk in the echo, please confirm!!! Well, they don’t believe us, maybe we’re so special, we’re very honest, huh? We're used to it!
Answer, whoever sees it, otherwise it will turn out that we are deceivers!

DG> You are the second one who admits that he did not trade and does not
DG> trade in unlicensed software, only purchased.

Maybe you mistook us for two different traders? Look at the Origin below, or is there someone else?

DG> 2MR: Max, and you said that there are no honest traders... Here they are
DG> - two showed up in one day!

I hope this phrase is without sarcasm, right?обидеться.

From Eugene Malkov To All 14 January 1998

DG> Sorry again, I don’t believe it! You haven’t sold 10-15

in six months (?) There is also unhealthy competition :(

DG> sets? I don’t believe it. And if you have 5 spektrumists in your city and all of them
DG> suffer from stepophobia, then you, as a trader, have screwed up by buying
DG> a license for a product that is not in demand in your region in advance.

User, here you are only everyone wants it cheaper, that’s why it’s still...
And our prices are not ceiling, we sell no more expensive than in Moscow, we try not to break the bank.

DG> Did you see the letter from a member of the group, which quoted the license
DG> agreement signed by the entire group? Are you again trying to meddle in
DG> our internal affairs?

No, but this is not a scanned copy. document :) Okay, I believe, no one objected,
that means it’s legal, right?

DG> Judging by the “success” of the latest Spectrophones in your city, I would advise you
DG> not to rush...

As for the ZN-2, I would have rushed, if it was even going to happen! We sell CVs and are not happy with them, even though we don’t get much money - we are far from being breakers. You seem to be like Clive Sinclair - wonderful specialists, but, excuse me, useless managers :( Well done, Slava is doing well, huh? And ZH seemed to be more popular? And how much money did it raise?

DG> ;) Well, yougive... Does anyone in your city sell Western
DG> programs or have people not seen them at all? ;) In general, as you understand,

Of course, there is one savage. Alos company, damn you! I don't give a damn about licenses and authors.

DG> this question was just a “strength test”, I hope you
DG> answered it honestly? ;)

Honestly, I didn’t have to put a smiley face. If you don’t know me, then does the name
Konstantin Afendikov mean anything to you? Ask him.

\2 Konstantin Afendikov Kostya, confirm if it’s not a lie. Or have you not been to the market for a long time? Then take a look at our catalog :)

From Evgeny Milun To All 16 January 1998

EM> Well, why, if there was a rule of law state... And so - whoever is lucky.
If there were a 100% rule of law state, then we would pay a lot of money here
paying for the establishment of magazines, all sorts of taxes, etc.

From Dmitry Grigoryev To All 18 January 1998

EM> I see, then maybe you can at least calculate the approximate cost, huh? No matter how much I puffed myself up, I couldn’t predict the volume of sales in order to add to
EM> that ill-fated 15% and the cost of local tickets :)

How much do you buy floppy disks? The main thing here is to cope with greed ;) And 15
calculate the cost of one disk, not the volume. "Inforcom", for example, charged five
thousand per disk and fit into these rules...

EM> Sorry, but it worked out for us approximately like this, and due to
EM> the quality of our postal delivery, we had to ask that issue 22 be sent to us
EM> again after it had gone through the process :(

That is, you started distributing two months later than everyone else? Why is there any surprise... Donetsk is not the end of the world...

EM> What if, I don’t know,

Agree, there are not enough grounds for claims...

EM> where did it come from a “wild” trader, who

For example, he bought it from IFC, and he also has connections with other traders for sure...

EM> he ruined our trade because it’s cheaper for him (he can
EM> afford it, he didn’t pay 100 rubles!) :(

And how much did he earn from this, I wonder?

EM> And if it’s not difficult for you, please tell me where the plug is with
EM> the file echo. Since you were able to calculate the walking paths, you owe it know.

I have enoughwas to know where it didn’t reach ;) Of course, I didn’t
calculate anything, but in your case I guessed :)

EM> I can’t say for sure, I can only assume :( Maybe
EM> it hurt, there are messages between cities without any fuss!

That’s it ;) And we didn’t only sell you magazines...

EM> I DON’T know, that’s why I'm silent.

If only I was silent ;)

From Dmitry Grigoryev To All 18 January 1998

EM> It is very difficult to determine the line of legality - after all, if I am not mistaken,
EM> it says something about the safety of the original code, and this could be discussed for a year
EM> and nothing will be achieved!

Uh-huh... It’s better not to do anything - then there will be nothing to complain about... Why
not write should the authors not ask permission, since their tacit
consent is not enough?

EM> Ugh, damn it, is there anyone from Donetsk in the echo, please confirm!!! Well
EM> they don’t believe us, maybe we are special, very honest, huh? Yes, we are not used to stealing! Answer, whoever sees, otherwise it will turn out that we are deceivers!

Next time you will not doubt my authority from Stepa ;-) I believe you,
I believe, although I don’t understand...

EM> Maybe you mistook us for two different traders? The origin is below
EM> look.

But I don’t read the origins - they usually write such a blizzard there ;)

EM> Or is there someone else?

Not yet... They are being modest, probably ;)

From Denis Markelov To All 19 January 1998

DM> There, the authors seemed to have decided to redo all the graphics and the project was bent.

Not all of it, but a couple of dozen sprites and pictures (it’s easier to rip all the graphics out again).
And we didn’t get bent at all. Let's crawl along little by little... (The programmer has work there for
3 days, but there are a lot of other things to do). But I hope that “soon” MK will resurrect from
“dead” projects :)

P.S. In general, is MK still relevant?

With respect, GodFather.


From Roman Milukov To All 21 January 1998

EM> please!!! Well, they don’t believe us, maybe we are special,
EM> very honest, huh? Yes, we are not used to stealing!
EM> Answer, who sees, otherwise it will turn out that we are deceivers!
I am not from Donetsk, but I used their services.
I answer! KGS sent me their price list at my request.
There was no Western software in it! Only Ch.V., SPF22,23, ZF7,
Miracle2. That's it!


All the best.
With respect, Roman Milukov.

From Eugene Malkov To All 21 January 1998

EM>> should we stand? Sorry, I'm not used to it.

DG> What faces do you play them with? Or are you Dizzy for the first time on

With the sad ones :) You can’t compare like that, especially since I haven’t bought anything from pirates for the last 5 years
(at least I copied them from friends).

DG> did you see the emulator? They _need_ to be distributed, that's what they were made for,

Don't joke about the emulator, I've run at most 30 games on it, but haven't played a single one, I just completed the CV demos and that's it.

DG> PS: And you give them away for free! For the price of a floppy disk. It will be better than any advertising
DG>! And your competitor will die right there ;)

A sound thought, but how many people can tell the difference between the frivolous and the broken? And what will we
look like? The most we want is our 15% for the work.

Hasta la vista.
Tim Kelly


From Eugene Malkov To All 21 January 1998

EM>> I’m mistaken, it says something about the safety of the original code,
EM>> and this could be discussed for a year and nothing achieved!

DG> Uh-huh... It’s better to do nothing - then there will be nothing to complain about...
DG> Why not write to the authors, ask for permission, since
DG> there aren’t enough of them tacit consent?

We are trying, as far as possible, there are no results yet.

DG> I believe you, I believe, although I don’t understand...

Not everyone can be understanding :)

EM>> Maybe you mistook us for two different traders? Origin below
EM>> look.

From Roman Milukov To All 27 January 1998


Hello, Denis!

19 Jan 98 Denis Markelov hoping that Dmitry Meniaylov will read,
wrote:

DM> P.S. In general, is MK still relevant?
And even very much so! Many people were delighted with the Kharkiv MK. Now they are waiting
(although they strongly doubt that he will be resurrected) of St. Petersburg.