Destruction of piracy as a class (last-1)
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From Tim Yunaev → To All 17 March 1998
May you have eighty-three bags of hryvnia, Andrew!
Somehow a long time ago, specifically Saturday March 14, 1998 at 11:30 Andrew Savichev
wrote All:
AS> Authors and traders should have power, not pirates!
AS> I don’t know how to achieve this, but otherwise Spectrum will fold :(
I’ll tell you - no way. Without investing a lot of money.
AS> The only hope is to bring the pirates to their senses, including through agitation
AS> “You can’t beat the butt with a whip.”
You can’t reason with the pirates.
SN>> According to knowledgeable people, we do not have
SN>> organized crime.
AS> Ours. the mafia is worse than all the others - but I won’t talk about it!
Everyone knows that.
>> AS> Well, now we know who our defender of piracy is ;)
TY>> It’s a little bit different - I’m a realist and I’m no longer used to seeing everything in rosy colors.
AS> It’s easy to be a realist, defending the interests of those on whose side is strong ;)
And rejecting all unrealizable ideas.
AS> I I paid more than 800 rubles for pirated compacts,
With this money you can buy about 40 discs. Accordingly, there are thousands of software there for
50 dollars :)
AS> on one of them there was some semblance of software for the Spectrum. But I
AS> got tired of feeding pussy pirates and I didn’t go into the jungle
AS> of Vyndos, where you can get three times as much and staydisappointed. And
AS> the quality of all this junk is such that it would be better for me to buy
AS> original software from the authors of Spectrum.
You have to be able to choose.
AS> Unfortunately, on the virtual Spectrum IT IS COMPLETELY UNAVAILABLE!
AS> :( Spectrum and pussy cannot be compared. Software for writing is still written
AS> in the West. Therefore, the West suffers from piracy. For Spectrum in
AS> They don’t write software in the West, therefore we suffer from piracy.
We are authors/traders, right? Users do not suffer from piracy :)
AS> Yes, I am a preacher of “double standards of morality”, kill me for this. But
AS> first remember that no one in the world gives a damn about whether Russia
AS> will collapse or not,
Just as I don’t care whether Zimbabwe will collapse or not.
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TY>> Andrey, this is _unreal_. You know it yourself. He won't pay. Maximum
TY>> can be counted on 10% of the total number (very positive
TY>> forecast).
AS> Tim, we don’t know the total number of spektrumists, but we know that
AS> if you can’t earn $180 per person per month, then in Russia,
AS> _now_, no one will do such work,
Which is what needed to be proven - that’s why all these projects are unrealistic.
>> Common misconception. Breaking is not building.
AS> No, it’s not a delusion. A programmer by himself cannot create anything!
Cracker is notprogrammer.
AS> And this depends precisely on MACROECONOMICS, i.e. from the conditions in which we all find ourselves. Pirates are “in power” - that means hackers have
AS> more than the authors, there are few games, but they break them instantly. Traders are "in
AS> strength" - the authors have more than hackers, there are many games, they break them
AS> more slowly.
There will be more crackers and they will break the same way :)
AS> and it will mean that SPECTRUM is DEAD! :( Instilling in the Spectrum pirates
AS> a model of their own behavior (or rather, supporting the traditional model
AS> of behavior, since pussy pirates appeared just from the Spectrum)
AS> pussy pirates work to destroy Spectrum pirates!
And Spectrum itself too.
>> They understand this - they don’t care. After all, they will find something to do.
AS> All markets are occupied!!! Who are they? Why are they needed there?
The market is big, it can accommodate a lot, the payback is huge...
AS> Neither Spectrum authors, nor Spectrum traders, nor
AS> Spectrum pirates NO ONE NEEDS WRITES! From Spectrum
AS> only users are needed, and then only to buy all sorts of
AS> used junk! !
You are wrong. A programmer remains a programmer, regardless of the platform.
>> Piracy _can_ be greatly weakened by legal methods.
>> As is already being done all over the world.far away.
AS> I see only one thing: the desire by any means as soon as possible
AS> TO ADD THE SPECTRUM. And then, the state(s) don’t give a damn about Spectrum :(
Like any other computer.
TY>> which will give the pirates a lot of new software for free.
AS> It will take away their buyers and they will be gone, them and not Spectrum,
AS> for which they are digging a hole. The fact is that they will give away the software and, moreover,
AS> “at pirate prices” and even more low N-traders, not pirates.
How, if a trader pays for the software, but a pirate does not?
AS> There is really a danger that they will begin to physically deal with N-traders
AS> :(
:) you bent it.
AS> Therefore, you need to successfully choose the moment when the pirates have already weakened,
AS> but some number of users will still remain.
This moment it has come.
>> Do you know why? Most of them are also realists. And they feel sorry for their money.
AS> No one needs their money,
everyone needs money.
AS> and they feel sorry not for money, but for time. Then let those who don’t feel sorry for time to save Spectrum become N-traders.
And where are they?
With respect, Tim. t...@usa.net [team Aries is RulezForever]
From Vyacheslav Mednonogov → To All 20 March 1998
Get Msg, Tim!
17 Mar 98 21:07, Tim Yunaev reported to Andrew Savichev about {Destruction of piracy
as a class (last-1)}:
TY> Users do not suffer from piracy :)
It happens that they do. When they buy a “well-opened program”, then the same one, but “even better opened”, then again it, but “almost without glitches”, and
finally, a “fully working version” ;))
With warm greetings, Slava!
the glitches, of course, are attributed to the author, and the removal by hackers
of their own glitches is called “global revision” programs" ;)
zzy\ very often, looking at "x-products" for some reason I remember a surgeon who
during an operation leaves instruments in the patient's body, then remembers
this, cuts again, takes them out, but forgets others, etc., etc. ;)
From Eugene Malkov → To All 23 March 1998
* Crossposted in ZX.SPECTRUM
* Crossposted in MY_MAIL
I greet you from the bottom of my heart, Vyacheslav!
Fri Mar 20, 1998, Vyacheslav Mednonogov squeezed the keyboard, hoping that the following words would reach Tim
Yunaev:
VM> It happens that they suffer. When they buy a “well-opened program”,
VM> then the same program, but “even better opened”, then again it, but “almost
VM> without glitches”, and finally, a “fully working version” ;))
That’s exactly what happened in Donetsk with UFO-2! Who do you think was profitable
_to_ sell? :)
Hasta la vista.
Tim Kelly