TR-DOS vs CP/M

If possible, tell me in more detail what is the difference between these OS. Which one is more literate,
which commands are in TP-DOS (I remember the SMeM ones).

Hey, that’s all...

Hi, Alexander!

15 March 98, Alexander Shherbakov writes to All:

AS> If possible, tell me in more detail what is the difference between these OS. Which is more
AS> literate, which commands are in TP-DOS (I remember the SMeM ones).

It will be an incorrect comparison.
TRDOS is Spec.
CP/M is more global.

With best wishes - Andrey Khristov (ha...@robin.alt.ru)

[Team Horse Aviation] [Team beer, girls & sofa]
[Team Electric Welding Must Die!] [Team Khasan Border Guards]

The difference is absolutely everything. As for literacy - IMHO both are good. TR-DOS
is fast, but ABSOLUTELY undevelopable; CP/M seems to have drivers
loadable, and even a pitiful semblance of subdirectories, but BRAKES...

Bye, with a pack of vicious, Pavel Fedin.

AK*> It would be an incorrect comparison.
AK*> TRDOS is Spec.
AK*> CP/M is more global.
Is there probably a CPM implementation for Spec too?
In general, maybe there is a helper for TRDOS. What commands?
By the way, what bells and whistles are used today? Rum discs? Screws?

What about crushing the baby?

PF*> The difference is absolutely everything.
Yes. I'm here as a white person, in response to the prompt I'm trying to type dir... ;)
It turned out that List is necessary. ;)

PF*> As for literacy - IMHO both are good. TR-DOS is fast, but ABSOLUTELY
PF*> undevelopable; CP/M seems to have loadable drivers, and even
PF*> a pitiful semblance of subdirectories, but BRAKES...
Brakes? When working with a disk? Hmm... SO it's a floppy disk and not a screw or a PRAM.
By the way, why did the PAM disks rot? The program sizes are small, making
PAM for 512 kilos is no longer a problem, recharge from batteries in slip mode.
For work - just right. Well, if you store a lot of information, then these are floppy disks.

I’m finishing... It’s scary to count, I’m freezing with shame and fear...

Thu 00:33 19 March 1998 Alexander Shherbakov writes to Andrey Khristov:

AS> Is there probably an implementation of CPM for speck?

If you disable the ROM, that is:

-
- CP/M 2.2 for Sinclair 128
-
ZXCPM.LZH 7309 05/07/96 [005] Description and scheme of modification of Sinclair for
work with CP/M
ZXCPM.ZIP 97478 05/07/96 [009] System disk CP/M 2.2 for Sinclair 128
(in the format TeleDisk)
SYSZXCPM.LZH 10342 05/07/96 [009] Utility for transferring the CP/M 2.2 system for
Sinclair 128 to system disk tracks

Best wishes! Michael KLUG

21 Mar 98 00:50, Alexander Shherbakov wrote to Pavel Fedin:

AS> By the way, why did the PAM disks rot? The sizes of the
AS> programs are small, making a PAM of 512 kilos is no longer a problem, recharging
AS> from batteries in slip mode. For work - just right. Well, if you store a lot of
AS> information, then these are floppy disks.

This is not a problem now, but a few years ago a meter SIMM
cost $35. It was unprofitable then, but now it’s too late.

Sincerely
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VY*> This is not a problem now, but a few years ago a meter SIMM
VY*> cost $35.
Don’t talk. About 3 years ago I bought my first mega quarters for 42 bucks...

VY*> Then it was unprofitable, but now it’s too late.
Why is it late? I worked, though not on a Speccy, but on a Corvette, and I know what a drag and inconvenience these floppy disks are. Very slow. And a PAM disk with recharge (static or even flash) is about 1Mg - that’s convenient! Drain everything onto it and
work. 70% of the time can be gained when developing software and just working.

AS> PF*> CP/M seems to have loadable drivers, and even
AS> PF*> is a pitiful semblance of subdirectories, but BRAKES...
AS> Brakes? When working with a disk? Hmm... SO it's a floppy disk and not a screw or a PAM.

No. Brakes in general, in general. The programs don't even know how to work with the screen.
Text editors don't even know what scrolling is. Plus the wretchedness of the software itself.

AS> By the way, why did the PAM disks rot? The sizes of the programs are small,
AS> making PAM for 512 kilos is no longer a problem, recharge from batteries in
AS> slip mode.

Well, please tell us in more detail. This is the first time I've heard about this.

VY> This is not a problem now, but a few years ago a meter SIMM
VY> cost $35. Then it was unprofitable, but now it’s too late.

Hey.. if I’m not mistaken, I somehow unearthed the SVGA video card, the shk
and there are two 256 k microchips sitting there and are controlled like ordinary ROMs.

Best regards.Alexandr

PF*> No. Brakes in general, in general.
I worked with two operating systems. Microdos and C&P. The latter seemed much faster to me.

PF*> Programs don’t know how to work with the screen at all. Text editors
PF*> don’t even know what scrolling is.
Again, CPM and a good editor for it (355 kilos seems to be the limit for
text?).
I don’t remember the name, the file was called ST.COM. Not a bad editor, with a bunch of bells and whistles.
So there the work with the screen was carried out exclusively through the 02h BDOS function. That is, symbol-by-character exchange. Of course, in order to somehow remove the brakes, a bunch of funny “no-hay”s were used there. In general, the editor was universal, easily customized for different computers, with different screen geometries, etc. And scrolling. In general, the same Corvette had a lot of control codes. This includes inserting
a line with a text shift and deleting a line and also with a symbol in the line,
moving the cursor and so on...

PF*> Plus the wretchedness of the software itself.
In CP/M? Well, it was you, my dear, who ruined it. I strongly disagree. All the best
tools are just under SP/M.

Wed 00:12 25 Mar 1998 Alexander Shherbakov writes to Pavel Fedin:

AS> I worked with two OS. Microdos and C&P. The latter seemed to me
AS> much faster.

MicroDOS is CP/M 2.6. What is usually meant by CP/M is CP/M
2.2.

Best wishes! Michael KLUG

AS> I worked with two OS. Microdos and C&P. The latter seemed to me
AS> much faster.

First of all, on what? I worked with Microdos on Pro.

AS> Again, CPM and a good editor for it (355 kilos seems to be the limit
AS> on text?). I don’t remember the name, the file was called ST.COM. Not a bad editor, with
AS> a lot of bells and whistles. So there, work with the screen was carried out exclusively through the
AS> 02h BDOS function. Those. character-by-character exchange. Of course, in order to somehow remove
AS> the brakes, a bunch of funny “no-hay”s were used there. In general, the editor was
AS> universal, easily customized for different computers, with different screen geometry
AS>, etc.

I saw the best one I had - Write System.

AS> And scrolling. In general, the same Corvette had a lot of control codes. This is
AS> inserting a line with a text shift and deleting a line and also with a symbol in the
AS> line, moving the cursor and so on...

As far as I understand, this is not the case in Pro. And with scrolling there is such a perversion:
while you hold the key, only the top line is retyped, thenwhen
you release the key, the entire text is retyped.

AS> PF*> Plus the wretchedness of the software in itself.
AS> In CP/M? Well, it was you, my dear, who ruined it. I strongly disagree. All the best
AS> tools are just for SP/M.

I wouldn’t call Turbo pascal, Power and so on the best tools.

AS> PF*> Well, please tell me in more detail. This is the first time I've heard about this.
AS> More details are better in SU.HARDW.SCHEMES.

I'm not writing it out.

AS> But in brief...
AS> Static memory chips. Many have a Clip mode, in which
AS> consume microamps, if not fractions of 1.5 volts. Shawl, with
AS> microcircuits for 64,128,256 and so on kilobytes. The simplest key for
AS> power supply is when there is no power, power comes from the battery. In this way
AS> you can store information indefinitely. Or you can also install flash drives
AS>, they don’t require batteries at all, but it’s slower. Although
AS> is still faster than flops.

This is a clear issue, I mean, was there a practical working development?

P.S. And I know these little gadgets - I invented and assembled MapROM on them. Rulez!

23 Mar 98 23:11, Alexander Shherbakov wrote to Vladimir Yudin:
AS> Why is it late? I worked, though not on a Speccy, but on a Corvette, and I know what a drag and inconvenience these floppy disks are. Very slow. And a PAM disk with
AS> recharge (either static or even flash) is somewhere in the MEG range - it’s convenient!
AS> Drain everything onto it and work. 70% of the time can be gained during development
AS> p/o and just by working.

Why is it late? If only because you can install a hard drive on your computer.
It will be more convenient, IMHO.

Evgeny

AS> Static memory chips. Many have a Clip mode, in which
AS> consume microamps, if not fractions of 1.5 volts. Shawl, with
AS> microcircuits for 64,128,256 and so on kilobytes. The simplest key for
AS> power supply is when there is no power, power comes from the battery. In this way
AS> you can store information indefinitely. Or you can install flash drives
AS>, they don’t require batteries at all, but it’s slower.

PF*> As far as I understand, this is not the case in Pro. And with scrolling there is such a perversion:
PF*> while you hold the key, only the top line is retyped, then
PF*> when you release the key, the entire text is retyped.
Also in ST.COM. If a command is given while the screen is being displayed, then refreshing the screen is interrupted and the commands are executed. If we say page up/down, then a new drawing begins. Pretty quick.

AK*> It won’t take long to ruin flash drives.
They are not for daily recording, but for maintaining collections and, say, inactive
software transfer...

AK*> They were not invented for this purpose, to constantly write in them.
Not constantly. FILTERED only. And they will give magnetic disks a head start.

AK*> Let there be SRAM. Or CMD from CNC machines ;))))
They must be small there... I heard about domestic development, but they are 32
bits. It was a long time ago.

AS> PF*> First of all, on what? I worked with Microdos on Pro.
AS> "Corvette" 8020. 2
AS> 720 disk drives. Processor BM80. Drive controller like VG93.
AS> Printer port, Tape port, serial port. Graphics 512x256
AS> 16 colors, text (another screen) 64x16.

Got it. Well, how is she doing?

AS> PF*> As far as I understand, this is not the case in Pro. And with scrolling there is such a
AS> perversion: PF*> while you hold the key, only the top
AS> line is retyped, then
AS> PF*> when you release the key, the entire text is retyped.
AS> Also in ST.COM. If a command is given while the screen is being displayed, then
AS> screen refreshing is interrupted and the commands are executed. If we say this
AS> page up/down, then a new drawing begins. Quite smart.

But it looks simply DISGUSTING! I don’t even see where I am in the text
.

AS> PF*> I wouldn’t call Turbo pascal, Power, etc. the best
AS> tools.
AS> C, linkers, librarians, Acm, the sameSuperText...

I saw this Asm... One thing interests me - why the hell should it assemble in
580VM80 codes? ;-)))))

AS> PF*> This is a clear stump, I mean, was there a practical working PF*>
AS> development?
AS> I didn’t. Who did it outside of Kyrgyzstan. But I don’t see any pitfalls. In
AS> in particular for Orion 128 and Radio 86 PK "Radio" promoted such
AS> things, but only on ROM.

In general, I did the following thing: I took two 62256 pieces, made a simple circuit, and
now by commands in port #F7 I can connect 64 instead of ROM KB of RAM,
completely repeating the ROM structure by page, and also with the ability to
write blocking and shutdown via Reset (full ROM emulator).
If someone needed it, I could rework the circuit and create
a drive on cartridges. I just wish there was more mikruh.

PF>> The difference is absolutely everything. As for literacy, IMHO both are good. TR-DOS
PF>> is fast, but ABSOLUTELY undevelopable; CP/M seems to have drivers

MR> let's start with the fact that tr-dos is not an axis. This is just a ridiculous add-on to
MR> BASIC for working with disks. and CPM is a valuable axis.

But for some reason the ridiculous gadget works faster than the molded one. ;-)

I hit you with my forehead, Pavel!

I saw that Thu Apr 02 1998 Pavel Fedin wrote to Alexander Shherbakov this
that:

PF> Actually, I did the following thing: I took two pieces 62256, made a simple one
PF> circuit, and now, using commands in port #F7, instead of ROM
PF>, I can connect 64 kB of RAM, which completely repeats the structure of the ROM on
PF> pages, and also with the ability to block writing and disable it using
PF> Reset (a complete ROM emulator). If someone needed it, I could
PF> rework the circuit and create a cartridge-based drive. Just
PF> I wish there was more mikruh.
At one time in Donetsk such a feature was sold on the market. There were about a dozen cartridges with toys for it, but it didn’t last long on sale - floppy drives replaced it quite quickly - it’s cheaper and more convenient. That's it.

Well, Pavel, Pavel, packaged!
[Team thief Alos MUST DIE!]

AS>> tools. C, linkers, librarians, Acm, the same SuperText...
PF*> I saw this Asm... One thing interests me - why the hell should it
PF*> assemble in 580VM80 codes? ;-)))))
And in what codes then? Z80? I won’t say anything here. Perhaps he understands them.
Only the VM80 lives on the corvette with all the consequences.

PF*> In general, I did the following thing: I took two 62256s, made a simple
PF*> circuit, and now, using commands in port #F7, instead of a ROM
PF*> I can connect 64 kB of RAM, which completely repeats the structure of the ROM in pages,
PF*> and also with the ability to block recording and disable via Reset (full
PF*> ROM emulator). If someone needed it, I could rework the
PF*> circuit and create a cartridge-based drive. I just wish there was more micro stuff.
Well, right now it seems like there are some good flushes. Or static PAM are decent. If the board is double-sided and the microphones are mounted on both sides, we will get quite compactness.

I loved you, people...

MR> to BASIC for working with disk. and CPM is a full-fledged axle.

Well then, tr-dos is a semi-axle. :)
Sincerely
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02 Apr 98 22:42, Pavel Fedin wrote to Alexander Shherbakov:
PF> Actually, I did the following thing: I took two 62256s, made a simple
PF> circuit, and now, using commands in port #F7, instead of ROM
PF> I can connect 64 kB of RAM, which completely replicates the structure of the ROM by
PF> pages, as well as with the ability to block recording and disable by
PF> Reset (full ROM emulator). If someone needed it, I could
PF> rework the circuit and create a cartridge-based drive. Just
PF> I wish there was more mikruh.
Well. Need memory cartridge on RAM with batteries. For ZX-48,
capacity above 5 megabytes.

Evgeny

AS> PF*> But it looks simply DISGUSTING!
AS> Would it be better if the screen was drawn and did not respond to pressing?

Why draw? You need to be able to write!

AS> PF*> I saw this Asm... One thing interests me - why the hell should it PF*>
AS> assemble in 580VM80 codes? ;-)))))
AS> And in what codes then? Z80? I won’t say anything here. Perhaps he
AS> understands them. Only VM80 lives on the corvette, with all the consequences.

And what does the Corvette have to do with it? I have a SPECTRUM, not a Corvette. And IMHO there is no need to make a Corvette with its VM80 out of it.

AS> PF*> If someone needed it, I could
AS> rework the PF*> circuit and create a drive on cartridges. Here
AS> only there would be more mikruhu. Well, right now it seems like there are good flushes. Or static
AS> PAM are decent. If the board is double-sided and the microphones are mounted on both
AS> sides, we will get quite compactness.

Yes... But no one will undertake to support this. So I threw the first scheme into the echo - no reaction. Nobody needs it. The second one is
reluctant.

...
PF> Reset (full ROM emulator). If it were for someone
TR-DOS can be emulated in the Pentovsky cache. And the rest is useless imho.
PF> it’s necessary, I could
PF> rework the circuit and create a drive on cartridges.
PF> But
PF> I wish there were more gadgets.
ES> At one time in Donetsk such a feature was sold on the
ES> market. There were about a dozen cartridges with toys for it,
ES>, but it didn’t last long on sale - quite fast
ES> was replaced by its disk drives - it’s cheaper and more convenient.
No, it’s with ROMs, probably. But if there were more static RAM, then it would be possible to make it like a ramdisk, call it drive E (correct TR-DOS) - it would be very convenient. Just need a larger capacity (ideally 800K :)

All the best.
With respect, Roman Milukov.

PF> But for some reason the ridiculous gadget works faster than the stupid one. ;-)

I saw cp/m at the pros (or was it not him?) - very good.

Good Luck...

... Sped up my XT; ran it on 220v! Works greO?_~

PF*> And what does the Corvette have to do with it? I have a SPECTRUM, not a Corvette.
And I had a Corvette. ;)

PF*> And IMHO there is no need to make a Corvette with its VM80 out of it.
From a spec? How to say. I don’t want to start a flame, but the Corvette will be a little better.
First of all, the keyboard is normal, reed switch. By keys. There are 5 functionalities, a small ESC button, etc. There is a right keyboard to control the cursor. Already
built-in GMD controller for 2 5" drives, printer and serial
port connector, which is also used for LAN. One of the PPA is used
exclusively for the user's purposes and its outputs + interrupt input (oh yes y
Corvette built-in interrupt controller) + clock output. Hy and a standard connector for the drive (the drive is not a tape recorder, but a drive on
cassettes, i.e. its filling is already designed for digital. Hy and finally video.
Separately, separate AD output). graphic. That is, they do not interfere with each other and you can even install 2 monitors if desired. 64x16 display icons are 8x16, i.e. beautiful and aesthetic, although there is a 32x16 mode. 16 colors.
I will repeat all this in the standard package of 8020. Of course, you can add
additional gadgets. And the software is also a lot of tasty ones, there is
BSVV, there is the possibility of sniffing connected ROM cassettes, finally a test. system
when you turn on the PC. Hy and finally the ability to work underSPM that opens up wide
horizons. Despite all the skimpiness of the university, I nevertheless had the tools - a good C compiler, a good ASM, an amazing text editor, compared to which the Writing Lexicon sucks. I don’t want to offend the Spectrum, but with my
respect for it as the First Ones, it is much inferior to the Corvette. Although of course the Z80 will be a little faster than the BM80, this is a small plus because a 10% difference in productivity gives absolutely nothing. Personally, for example, it doesn’t matter to me how long any operation will be performed - 10 minutes or 11.
Again, this is my opinion and I don’t want to start a flame “which is cooler”, I just
provided a brief and far from complete reference on Corvety.

ES> At one time in Donetsk such a feature was sold on the market. There were
ES> about a dozen cartridges with toys for it, but it didn’t last long on sale
ES> -
ES> was quickly replaced by disk drives - it’s cheaper and more convenient.
ES> That’s it.

But the cartridges are faster, smaller in size, more reliable, and hold more.

03 Apr 98 23:40, Pavel Fedin wrote to Max Romanoff:
PF> But for some reason the ridiculous gadget works faster than the molded one. ;-)

It depends. On a Corvette, say, CP/M works much faster than TR-DOS on the Spectrum. No matter what they say.

Evgeny

... "Dark Lord Darth Vader - forever."

04 Apr 98 21:32, Alexander Shherbakov wrote to Pavel Fedin:
AS> Who is SPM? Normal. But I mainly used Microdos, it is slower but
AS> there are nice features. I mainly used SPM when I wrote in C, the C compiler
AS> was ~46 kilos in size and there were 2 kilos left for the text. That's why I switched
AS> to SPM and it is 4 kilos less than MicroDOS.
That, and you don’t have floppy disks from the Corvette?
It’s a pity - such a computer is lying idle....
I especially want the KLAD toy. I really liked it at one time...
If there are still floppy disks, we can Will you grab DiskDup and wash one for me?
With the system, and with programs: ExpressPascal, Basic, Klad, POWER, PC-tools.
I really want to...

AS> I loved you, people...
And I didn’t particularly like them (people, that is)... ;-)))

05 Apr 98 12:18, Evgeny Onishko reported to Pavel Fedin about {TR-DOS vs CP/M}:

EO> Well. Need memory cartridge on RAM with batteries. For ZX-48,
EO> capacity above 5 megabytes.

Did you speak some non-Nash language? Are we working abroad? :))
Check out:

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─ Lesha's Netmail (2:5030/461.12) NETMAIL.OF.LESHA
From : Riccardo Dri 2:333/727 01 Apr 98 19:51:00
To : Alexey Mednonogov 2:5030/461.10 Subj : unreadable
areas? - readable areas! (KOI-8) (char set 866)
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Hallo Alexey,
Il della falsa cronologia, mi hai scritto riguardo a
"unreadable
areas? - readable areas! (KOI-8) (char set 866)":

AM> You may have to. This is a traditionally Russian area, you're
AM> probably the first person writing here in English.

Yes, I dind't know. I unlinked this area some days ago as nobody here can read
this language.

AM> It's not a subject without change, you're welcome. :)

Thanks for your reply.

AM> PS\ Speccy lives on in Italy?

I think so. I have 1 user who is interested still ... Write him directly: his
name/addressis:

Andrea Currie 2:333/727.2

Bye!
Riccardo

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So in Italy there is only 1 spektrumist :))

Warm greetings, Slava!

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AS> PF*> Why show off? You must know how to write! I don't agree. If you do
AS> direct output to text video memory (it is 1kb in the Corvette), then of course
AS> we will get decent speed. But you will have to forget about compatibility.

And there are drivers for this. Which can be written normally, or you can - as
wrote.

AS> PF*> Yes... But no one will undertake to support this.
AS> I threw my project about CRDOS and BIOS into the echo here. Why not
AS> revive it and make it support PAM disks?

You can also revive my project. But no one needs it. And no one
will support it.

AS> PF*> I don’t want to do the second one.
AS> Do you really need this? Maybe I'm wrong, but for example, I wrote a lot of things for the Corvette from what I needed. The same viewer or shell WC
AS> on which I spent a lot of time. Nobody used them except me,
AS> practically.

I wouldn’t mind putting together such a thing, if only for the sake of interest. But it’s not interesting if it lies and collects dust.

MR> I saw cp/m at the pros (or was it not him?) - very good.

So, this is not what I saw. But personally, CopyK, sorry, made me want to puke because of the brakes. I'm generally shocked by the scrolling of text in editors and viewers. The only thing there that is more or less usable is
HobCommander, and the Write System editor.

>I think so. I have 1 user who is interested still ... Write him directly: his
>name/address is:
>
>Andrea Currie 2:333/727.2
>
>Bye!
> Riccardo
>
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>
> So in Italy there is only 1 spektrumist :))
>
>
> With warm regards, Glory!

EO*> This, and you don’t have floppy disks from the Corvette?
Yes.
Unless, of course, nothing happened to them in 4 years.

EO*> It’s a pity - such a computer is lying idle....
Corvette? Which one is 8020 or 8010? The latter does not have a disk drive controller and some
other goodies.

EO*> I especially want the KLAD toy. I really liked it in my
EO*> time... If you still have floppy disks, you can grab DiskDup and wash
EO*> one for me?
They 5" and I don’t have such a flop.

EO*> With the system, and with programs:
EO*> ExpressPascal, Basic, Klad, POWER, PC-tools.
Do I have a warehouse of programs here? ;-)
Besides Acm, OS, C linker and Cypertext, there is nothing from tools.

I loved you, people...

AS>> Do you really need this? Maybe I'm wrong, but for example, I wrote a lot of things
AS>> for the corvette from what I needed. The same viewer or shell WC
AS>> on which I spent a lot of time. Nobody used them except me,
AS>> practically.

EO> It depends on what. On a corvette, say, CP/M works much faster than
EO> TR-DOS
EO> on the Spectrum. No matter what they say.

This means that the Condor company had crooked hands.

AS> I told you that the Spectrum is a Russian people's computer :)

This doesn't make it any easier for us =(

AS> However, if in the 50 richest countries in the world

50 richest countries? Offhand:... ? Five in America, five in Asia, 15 in
Europe... All. The rest live poorer than us, that is, in general, read, not live.

AS> found at 3-4

Well, and where do Spectrums come from in Japan?

AS> spektrumist, then IMHO these 150 are also worth a lot ;)

Even if so... What? What are they worth? Tomorrow they will take Speck off the shelf and take it to the landfill, and then they will launch C&C2 and, believe me, they will have no less fun.

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

AS> If you need it, I need it, then that’s enough.
AS> I did projects that were necessary only for me and I don’t feel an inferiority complex from this
AS>.

I have no complexes. Only now there is no time either. Institute... :-(

09 Apr 98 01:14, Vyacheslav Mednonogov wrote to Evgeny Onishko:

VM> I think so. I have 1 user who is interested still ... Write him
VM> directly: his name/address is:

VM> So in Italy there is only 1 spektrumist :))

Not in Italy, but on one of the nodes in Italy! And if there is one spektrumist on each node, then you can live. :))

Sincerely
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