Sprinter

Hello comrade All!

This week (as the director of the Peters company, Mr. Noskov, said), the sale of Sprinters was supposed to
begin, I have a small question for All. Does anyone
intend to buy subject, and has anyone received the subject for free for making
software?

Sincerely yours Igor

>> Together We will put an end to all bourgeois evil spirits!!!!!
E-Mail : ray...@itm.spb.su

Monday December 22 1997 19:36, Igor Maznitsa wrote to All:

IM> Hello comrade All!

IM> This week (as the director of the Peters company Mr. Noskov said),
IM> the sale of Sprinters was supposed to begin, I have a small question for All. Does anyone
IM> intend to buy the subject, and has anyone received the subject for free for
IM> making software?

My IMHO (and DR) - never, it is blasphemy to torture a “stillborn” child...

cYa, aRTY/dR! · · ··· Email: Ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · ···

I intend, but not “in the forefront”... as a person involved in the development of
hardware, I know that the first batches will inevitably contain a bunch of bugs.
Unfortunately, Peters does not have the opportunity to reduce the price for “starting batches”, as powerful firms - hard makers do.
As for development, I am planning to make all my games and programs for extended graphics modes and 20 MHz z84c15.

AH> My IMHO (and DR) - never, it is blasphemy to torment a “stillborn”
AH> child...

golden words, as it should be...

Good Luck...

... Friends don't let friends use Windows.

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ëداؤء-شد, Wednesday December 24 1997 22:55, Max Romanoff ذةسءج ؤجر Artem
Haritonov:

AH>> يدإ IMHO (ة DR) - خةثداؤa, ثدفصخسش×د حصقaشط "حإزش×دزدضإؤخخداد"
AH>> زإآإخثa...
Hإ ذpء× دخ خء سقإش DR, شدقخد خإ ذpء×.
MR> عدجدشظإ سجد×a, ثaث خإجطعر ث سشaشة...
ëpءسة×ظإ ص ×ءس سجد×ء. Hءعظ×ءإشإ حإpش×دpدضؤإخخظح شداد ثشد ×دش-×دش pدؤةشسر.
Hإ بدpدغد ـشد, ادسذدؤء-شد×ءpةفة.

گ‘’چچ َ ص×ءضإخةإح, Ivan چچ’‘گ

TR-DOS 5.04Ei

IM> He’s not right about DR, he’s definitely not right.

Am I wrong??? Hehe... 8E~

MR>> golden words, how fitting...

IM> Your words are beautiful. You call someone who is about to be born stillborn.
IM> This is not good, gentlemen, comrades.

Wake up, it’s a miscarriage...

cYa, ARTY/dR! · · ··· Email: Ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · ···

that's all for now, then there will be more ;)

> Sincerely, Ivan
>
Eugene AKA Point777/CRB/PHT 2:4621/2.777

Sprinter ports.
All ports except the internal ports of the Z84C15 can be
forwarded. This means, for example, that port 7FFDh can be
decrypted as necessary for the normal operation of the program. (For example,
so that OUT (#FD),A always falls into 7FFDh)
Ports 7FFDh, 1FFDh, 0FEh are available not only for writing, but also for reading. (Not necessarily from the same addresses!) This also applies to other internal ports of Sprinter. (TR-DOS ports are not included in this category)
The Decoder Port Circuit (DCP) map is loaded into a special RAM page
(16k). It contains three permanent configurations (loaded after a reset)
and one USER configuration. Anything can happen in the latter. Switching
configurations is performed using the write to port command. The address of this port is also determined via the DCP card. This means that in the USER configuration access to this port (as well as to other Sprinter ports) can be closed, which
allows, if necessary, to prevent any program from working with the ports incorrectly.
The BIOS will contain the following functions for configuration.
1. Clear USER card.
2. Assign the address #AAAA to the port PORT_X
3. Disable the port from the address #AAAA.
The port address contains both bits of the address itself (This is still notall 16
addresses), as well as additional bits.
DOS bit, for changing the addressing when entering TR-DOS.
Bit /WR - write and read port addresses are defined separately.
Bit E128 - disable bit of port 7FFDh. In a sense, it is superfluous, but it
is necessary for compatibility with the ZX-Spectrum 128k.
PORT_X is the port number byte. In Sprinter-e, specific numbers will be set for each port.
The addresses at which decryption is carried out are A15, A14, A13, A7, A6, A5, A2, A1, A0.
Thus, #AAAA is an address made up of twelve bits:
E128,/WR,DOS,A15,A14,A13,A7,A6,A5,A2,A1,A0
At the input of the setup function there is an address and an address mask. The address
mask specifies which bits should be ignored during decryption.

Sprinter ports. (PORT_X bytes)
0 - port FF
1 - port keyboard
2 - port BORDER
3 - port 1FFDh
4 - port 7FFDh
5 - port 3FFDh
6 - port Start-ROM
7 - port Start-ROM-ALT
8 - port ROM-BASIC48
9 - port ROM-BASIC128
10 - port ROM-TR-DOS
11 - port ROM-EXPANSION
12 - port ROM-BASIC48-ALT
13 - port ROM-BASIC128-ALT
14 - port ROM-TR-DOS-ALT
15 - port ROM-EXPANSION-ALT
16 ─┐
.. ─┤
31 ─┴─ports RAM-PAGES - ports indicating which RAM page
is connected as page 0..F inScorpion configurations.
33 - port RAM-0 RAM page connected to the zero processor window
34 - port RAM-5 RAM page connected to the first processor window
35 - port RAM-2 RAM page connected to the second window processor
36 - port CONFIG
37 - port COVOX-1
38 - port COVOX-2
39 - port AY-3-8910-adr
40 - port AY-3-8910-dat
41 - port KEMPSTON
42 - port ISA-interface
43 ─┐reserv
.. ─┤
47 ─┘
48 - 51 VG93 ports
52 - DOS-1 port
53 - DOS-2 port
54 ─┐ service ports
.. ─┤
63 ─┘
64 ─┐ IDE interface ports
.. ─┤
79 ─┘
80..127 - reserved
128..143 - machine ID ports (read only.)
144..254 - reserve
255 - null-port - disabled state.

░▒▓██ Sincerely, Ivan ██▓▒░

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█ Once upon a time, Tuesday December 30 1997 03:34, Tyukaev Eugene Vladimirovich
█ wrote for All:

...
TV> there are questions:
TV> how is it with the sound card?
I already have a sound card. There is no Soft for it yet.
First option:
8 voices, two channels
Each voice has its own control of frequency and signal shape.
The shape is set by an 8-bit 'sample' of 256-byte length.
Each voice has separate amplitude control in two channels.
Second option:
Computer architecture allows you to develop other options. For
development, information is required _HOW_ to play standard MOD files.
Ie. description of the process of playing samples of standard files.

TV> as with AY??? <- so far the most interesting question is, can we provide
TV> a socket for it?
AY-3-8910 will be emulated by hardware.

One note about _hardware_emulation_.
Formally, this combination of words is a contradiction. Emulation implies software processing, and in Sprinter the hardware is iron (:)).
Any logical circuit will work the same regardless of the basis on which it is assembled (Signal races, etc. do not count. The question is not about them now.)

Sprinterhas a special architecture that allows you to _change_hardware_. This
means that the inclusion of the ZX-Spectrum circuit leads to _FULL_ compatibility
of the computer with the ZX-Spectrum.

THE ISSUE OF CHANGING HARDWARE GOES TO ANOTHER PLANE.

To change it, you do not need to rewire the board. There is no need to change or rearrange anything. You just need to insert a floppy disk and run a program in which
information for the programmable logic chip is recorded.

TV> Does the Sprinter have hardware multiplication/division?
Yes, but not in all configurations.

TV> Why are there so few clock cycles per 1 int? (300000?)
21MHz, 20ms/per int - 410000 clock cycles - this is the maximum.
300000 due to RAM slowdown.
The maximum is not unattainable. Sprinter has a fast memory chip, on which
there is no braking.

TV> That's all for now, there will be more later ;)
I will answer everything.

░▒▓██ Best regards, Ivan. ██▓▒░

TR-DOS 5.04Ei

IM> Your words are beautiful. You call someone who is about to be born stillborn. This is not good, gentlemen, comrades.

The fact of the matter is that the system is born dead. The time for such monsters
passed 4 years ago. In a few days it will be 5 years. Today we need
to make hardware for EXISTING machines, and not to design another
monster, no matter how cool it is in the class of 8-bit machines.

Good Luck...

... Kill 'em, kill 'em all, before they kill you

Ivan, that’s right, yes, push them, push them!!! Especially stupid amiznikoffs.

Warm greetings, Slava!

30 Dec 97 00:01, Ivan Mak reported to All about {Sprinter}:

IM> All ports, with the exception of the internal ports of Z84C15, can be
IM> redirected. This means, for example, that port 7FFDh can be

“Everything is fine with my program. Except for one tiny detail
- it won’t start :) “

Warm greetings, Slava!

MR> the fact of the matter is that the system is born dead. The time for such monsters
MR> passed 4 years ago. In a few days it will be 5 years. Today it is necessary
MR> to make hardware for EXISTING machines, and not to design another
MR> monster, no matter how cool it is in the class of 8-bit machines.

You see Mach, the entire success of the Sprinter depends on how much
money is poured into its implementation, because It’s no secret that very little depends on the power of the car; basically, all success depends on things completely unrelated to hardware.
Unfortunately, the Sprinter is a secondary product of the Peters company, whose main
income consists of the repair and sale of PiSishek.
So we will wait and watch the actions of the Peters company.

IM> development requires information _HOW_ it is necessary to play standard MOD
IM> files. Those. description of the process of playing samples of standard
IM> files.

damn, well, no need to lame! The technology for playing samples is in no way connected with HOW to play MOD. You just need to have
4 DMA channels for sound, and that’s it. Be able to set the period and length (at
the end - go to the beginning. That's it.

IM> Sprinter has a special architecture that allows you to _change_hardware_.
IM> This means that turning on the ZX-Spectrum circuit leads to _FULL_
IM> compatibility of the computer with the ZX-Spectrum.

It’s probably more accurate to say that it’s not the hardware that changes, but
individual nodes are switched to different options. That there are slightly
different things.

IM> To change it, you don’t need to move the board, you don’t need to change anything

yes... to fix it. all the bugs will need to be redone -
definitely.

I don’t undertake to predict everything and anything, but the architecture of the Sprinter seems to me much more interesting than the architecture of the Scorpio.
I would be very happy to have such a unit at home, dig around, and maybe
create something...

With best wishes - Andrey Khristov (ha...@robin.alt.ru)

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IM> You see Max, the whole success of the Sprinter depends on how much
IM> money is poured into its implementation, because It's no secret that very little depends
IM> on the power of the machine; basically, all success depends on things that have absolutely nothing
IM> to do with hardware.

you contradict yourself. You say that no matter how much they push, so
it will go, and then you declare that it’s not the hardware that they push into.

The success of the system is ensured by competitive prices, and
the presence of advantages over others. for that kind of money you can get
a full-fledged a500. Have MOUNTAINS of programs, games and anything else. And all this
does not need to be reinvented, as for the sprinter... all this is not a myth, but
reality.

IM> Unfortunately, the Sprinter is a secondary product of the Peters company, whose main
IM> income consists of the repair and sale of PiCits.

even if it were primary, I think the office went bankrupt.

IM> So we will wait and watch the actions of the Peters company.

I expressed my opinion.

Good Luck...

... Windows 3.2 will be released when 3.1 finishes loading.

AK> I don’t undertake to predict everything and everyone, but the architecture of Sprinter seems to me
AK> much more interesting than the architecture of Scorpio. I s

Scorpio has no architecture, i.e. it exists, but it is not the same architecture. Those. advanced hardware that can leaf through a couple of banks of
128k + pages from the 0th address. Scorp has earned popularity like
the Pentagon, because of its shadow + compact + everything is in the heap, and
the price was not so healthy (when the a500 cost 2-3 times more expensive),
and not like now - $170 for a completely bare-bones plan software machine
(sprinter)

Yes, in terms of hardware the sprinter is advanced, I don’t deny that, but
a piece of hardware without programs for such money will be a piece of hardware. But not at the user's shelf, but at the manufacturer's...

It was a huge mistake to take 8-bit processors as a basis.

AK> I will be very happy to have such a unit at home, I'll dig around, and maybe
AK> I'll come up with something...

Well, good luck. What can I say?

Good Luck...

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IM>> standard MOD files. Those. description of the process of playing
IM>> samples of standard files.

MR> damn, no need to lame! The technology for playing samples in no place
MR> is not connected with HOW to play MOD. You just need to have
MR> 4 DMA channels for sound, and that’s it. Be able to set the period and length (at
MR> the end - go to the beginning. That's it.
damn (c) MR
Well, I'm a complete idiot in this matter. And thanks for the answer.

MR> it's probably more correct to say that it's not the hardware that changes, but
MR> individual nodes are switched in different options. That there are slightly
MR> different things.
I agree. Although, it seems to me, it is clearer to say that the hardware is changing than to
explain how half a thousand logical elements of programmable logic are switched.

MR> yes... in order to fix all the bugs, it will be necessary to rewire -
MR> unambiguously. or hang your nose... (there are bugs everywhere)...
Not without it.
In every program there is at least one error (axiom).
In every scheme there is at least one error (axiom).

IM> ZX-Spectrum has been available for a long time and it needs to make new hardware - Sprinter.

sprinter is NOT NEW hardware for the Spectrum, but ANOTHER
SPECTRUM-MUTANT WITHOUT IRON, AND PROGRAMM.

I’m talking about the fact that we need to screw up the existing one park, and not add something else to it
of dubious coolness.

IM> By the way, if it’s not too much to answer, are there any commands for logical
IM> operations on character strings on AMIGA? For example, take a line, do
IM> an AND operation with another line and put it in the third.

uh! This is not in AMIGA, but in the process. There are no such people. But in
MMX is. (imho) MOTOROLA does it just for your case.

move.l (A0)+,D0
and.l (a1)+,D0
move.l d0,(a2)+

(4 bytes are processed at a time)

of course, on the Spectrum and PC, it would take more commands.

Good Luck...

... Windows Error 002: Operator fell asleep while waiting.

IM> Well, I'm a complete idiot in this matter. And thank you for your answer.

Did I help in any way? if yes, then glad.

IM> I agree. Although, it seems to me, it’s clearer to say that the hardware is changing
IM> than to explain how half a thousand logical elements of
IM> programmable logic are switched.

btw, what kind of tricky logic do you have there?

IM> Not without it.
IM> Q Every program has at least one error (axiom). In
IM> each circuit has at least one error (axiom).

if there is more than 1 transistor in the circuit, there is a possibility that the circuit
will not work (C) I. Mainly refers to loose ;)

Good Luck...

... OS/2: a better Windows than Windows... but still a Windows.

IM>> they are pouring money into its implementation, because It’s no secret that very little depends on the power
IM>> of the machine, basically all success depends on things
IM>> that are completely unrelated to hardware.

MR> you contradict yourself. You say that no matter how much they push, so
MR> it will go, and then you declare that it’s not the hardware that
MR> they push into.
I never (!) contradict myself

MR> The success of the system is ensured by competitive prices, and
MR> by the presence of advantages over others. for that kind of money you can get
MR> a full-fledged a500. Have MOUNTAINS of programs, games and anything else. And all this
MR> does not need to be reinvented, as for a sprinter... all this is not a myth, but
MR> reality.
experience (worldwide) shows that low cost is approximately 25% of success, but
I agree about the advantages.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IM>>> machines depend very little, basically all success depends on things
IM>>> completely unrelated to hardware.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

IM> I never(!) contradict myself

it means you have different concepts.

IM> experience (worldwide) shows that low cost is approximately 25% of success, and
IM> about the advantages - I I agree.

the advantage over other similar systems can be either
price, or some advantage at the same price. What is currently not observed. Those. all the advantages so far are nothing. Without
support, but all this is announced at a fairly high price.

IM> no, if it were paramount, then there would be more investments in it and
IM> the attitude would be completely different, the Sprinter would not have been developed for 2
IM> years. And now, the Peter company makes small mistakes that can (unfortunately) lead to the collapse of the Sprinter.

afaik, for 2 years this company has not been engaged in the trade of pussy. However
however, what happened 2 years ago is completely different from what it is
today. This is not a Scorpio, which looks like zone48k.

Good Luck...

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Hi Max !

MR> Yes, in terms of hardware the sprinter is advanced, I don’t deny that, but
MR> a piece of hardware without programs for such money will be a piece of hardware. But not at the user's shelf, but at the manufacturer's...

PowerPc, A\BOX - sophisticated hardware in terms of software? or maybe
someone is writing something on the a500?

MR> It was a huge mistake to use 8bit percent as a basis.

It depends on you, but it’s not worth losing compatibility because of this.

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Saturday January 03, 1998 12:43, Igor Maznitsa wrote to Max Romanoff:

IM> experience (worldwide) shows that low cost is about 25% of success, and

But not Russian ;)

IM> Sincerely yours Igor

Regards, Dmitry (OLDMAN).
ZXNet: 095/100.1
old...@i-connect.ru

I heard something else about some kind of video cache, can I find out more about it
? Is there a speaker? :)
Can I find out what is on the board that costs $98? those. Is it necessary to buy/invent/solder something other than cables with connectors, of course, to
connect a mouse, keyboard, floppy drives, hard drive, sound card, modem, etc?
By the way, about the modem - what is the max. speed? Is there already any
software?
And in general, what kind of software already exists, just not demo?

>
> ─│┌╚╚ Best regards, Ivan. ╚╚┌│─

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█ Once upon a time, Saturday January 03 1998 01:29, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

MR> sprinter is NOT NEW hardware for Spectrum, but ANOTHER
Sprinter is new hardware for Spectrum!
MR> SPECTRUM-MUTANT WITHOUT IRON, AND PROGRAM.
? How is it without iron? :-P

MR> I'm talking about the fact that it is necessary to expand the existing fleet, and not add to
This is exactly what has been done.
Simply, Sprinter is a Spectrum + bells and whistles 'in one bottle' (c) reklama

MR> uh! This is not in AMIGA, but in the process. There are no such people. But in
MR> there is MMX. (imho) MOtorola does it just for your case.

MR> move.l (A0)+,D0
MR> and.l (a1)+,D0
MR> move.l d0,(a2)+
And for every four bytes it takes three more commands plus a cycle... And time is running out..

MR> of course, on Spectrum and pipi, this would take more commands.
On Sprinter there are nine commands for lines up to 256 bytes long and without a loop. :)

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█ Once upon a time, Saturday January 03 1998 01:30, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

IM>> .......................................Thank you for the answer.
MR> did I help in any way? if yes, then glad.
Yes. No jokes.

MR> btw, what kind of tricky logic do you have there?
Programmable logic from ALTERA (USA). Three years ago these microcircuits did not yet exist. And ALTERA is a leader in this matter. (possibly self-advertising)
Microcircuit 204 legs. Internal delays for 1 logical element are 4 ns.
A logical element is a D-trigger plus a 4-input logical element for
any binary function.
ALTERA claims that you can assemble your own processor on such PLMs.
Actually, in the Sprinter circuit there are several PLMs small
specialized processors.

I would like to express one truth, as it seems to me.
If you assemble a machine on Intel, you will get a PC.
If you assemble a machine on Motorola, you will get an AMIGA.
And to get Spectrum you need to assemble on ZILOG.

> 2 slots in ISA-8 standard. The IBM modem is inserted directly
> into the slot. There is no need to solder anything.
What about the scanner? Have you tried plugging it in?
Another very progressive Touchpad device - gfx-ers would be very grateful.
Another very interesting question is how in the bright future a video helmet will be connected to the Sprinter if the video is “on the motherboard” and, as I understand it, is not subject to modernization, 3D-mouse and videophone? And if there are other editions of the "mother", then why
programmable logic?
> Printer, Kempston, Video, Audio..
> Power connector - P8 as in IBM.
>Boardwas developed in such a way that during installation there would be no need to solder anything. To connect all the peripherals, you need standard cables put on
pin connectors (like on PC boards).
We must hope that the power supply turns on without problems?
Nothing was said at all about “video” - IMHO one of the main “delicacies” of the Sprinter. Is it possible to turn on an SVGA monitor with its standard “cord”?
And in general, does the Peters company have any documentation for
users such as: Programmer’s Guide and Brief Technical Description, otherwise
unlike other Spectrums, this is the other side of the moon ;)

Sincerely, Andrey S./CGS

Catch up...
I forgot to ask, is it possible to install long 8M SIMM 60ns?
Although in my opinion the answer is obvious: it’s impossible ;)

Sincerely, Andrey S.

IM> Sprinter is the new Spectrum hardware!

Sprinter is not the new Spectrum hardware, but a new Spectrum clone. A
new Spectrum hardware is a re-wiring without any
architectural changes (re-wiring, in the sense of re-wiring or
any technological improvements, but not entailing architectural
changes).

IM>? How is it without iron? :-P

Periphery. Do you have a standard tire? :) I'm not talking about XT.

IM> This is exactly what has been done.

a new computer has been made that will replenish the small number of monsters
that have already been released. Almost all of them died safely.

IM> It’s just that Sprinter is Spectrum + all the bloat ‘in one bottle’ (c) reklama

right? If you don’t have to pay for the bells and whistles, then that’s great. Yes, and for
the remaining Spectrum+ - no more than 65 thousand rubles. for a fee. Then rulez. Otherwise
as it is now ~150$ - A500 with greater capabilities is better...

IM> And for every four bytes it takes three more commands plus a cycle... And then
IM> runs out..

yes, I completely forgot... there is such a thing in the Amiga chipset... blitter
is called. it can drive from 3 (THREE) places to a specific place
along the way, carrying out logical operations. Those. different xor or etc. For
working with graphics - a nice thing.

1st pointer on sprite
2nd pointer on mask
3rd pointer onscreen, where it goes, or just on the background (for overlay)
4th pointer on the screen, where it goes on the finished screen.

Do you have this? No. :))) And for the Spectrum with its planar
graphics, such a motor would be very useful...

Yes, I forgot - it can still make shifts on the fly, etc....

And about the time... Given that those commands are in the cache - fetching
them on a good process takes 1 clock per command... only the memory slows down.

IM> Sprinter has nine commands for lines up to 256 bytes long and without a loop.
IM> :)

on 060 the cycle operator is predicted and executed in 0 clock cycles.

Good Luck...

... WIN.INI not found. I hope to God you can still do DOS.

IM> Programmable logic from ALTERA (USA). Three years ago these microcircuits
IM> did not yet exist. And ALTERA is a leader in this matter. (possibly
IM> self-advertising) Microcircuit 204 legs. Internal delays per 1 logical
IM> element - 4 ns. A logical element is a D-trigger plus a 4-input
IM> logical element for any binary function.
IM> ALTERA claims that you can build your own processor on such PLMs.
IM> Actually, in the Sprinter circuit in the PLM there are several small
IM> specialized processor.

not, but it is also one-time programmable... Do you have
several combinations of hardware hardwired?

IM> If you assemble a machine on Intel, you will get a PC.
IM> If you assemble a machine on Motorola, you will get an AMIGA.
IM> And what would you get Spectrum you need to collect on ZILOG.

have you heard about SpectrumQL? He was on a motorola. 68008...

Good Luck...

... Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN.

PF> PowerPc, A\BOX - sophisticated hardware in terms of software? or maybe
PF> someone writes something on the a500?

how does this message of yours relate to the echo? There is an echo -
SpbZXNET.AMY - go there with such questions.

Good Luck...

... 8088 = model T Ford. Pentium = supercharged 400 horsepower model T Ford.

Yes, a follow-up question:

How is hardware multiplication/division organized?

not how it works, but how to use it from the programs side.

Good Luck...

... Windows Error 001: Windows loaded. System in danger.

MR> how does this message of yours relate to the echo? There is an echo -
MR> SpbZXNET.AMY - go there with such questions.

You shouldn’t go there - three letters have arrived there in a year. By the way, you probably don't
notice, but the threat of a general "Amigization" of St. Petersburg spektrumists has disappeared
forever. The only victims left were ZX-Format, which undermined its reputation
with pro-Amig articles, which is why its circulation in recent issues has decreased significantly
(according to _rumors_ ;)

Warm greetings, Slava!

I am glad to welcome you, All!

I hasten to inform you that on 12/31/97 the first Sprinter was sold,
though everything happened improvisationally. When I was showing
the text editor, one of the managers of the Peters company, Igor Borisov, came and said that the computer had been sold. ;)

Sincerely, Denis.

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Get Msg, All!

Warm greetings, Slava!

VM> You shouldn’t go there - three letters have arrived there in a year. By the way,
VM> you probably don’t notice, but the threat of a general “Amigization” of St. Petersburg
VM> spektrumists has disappeared forever. The only victims left were ZX-Format,
VM> which undermined its reputation with pro-Amig articles, which is why its circulation in
VM>'s latest issues decreased greatly (according to _rumours_ ;)

Ch.t.d. (see E96)

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VM> You shouldn’t go there - three letters have arrived there in a year. By the way,
VM> you probably don’t notice, but the threat of a general “amigization” of St. Petersburg
VM> spektrumists has disappeared forever. The only thing left among the victims was

why did she suddenly disappear?

VM> ZX-Format, which undermined its reputation with pro-Amig articles, because of which
VM> its circulation in recent issues has decreased greatly (according to _rumours_ ;)

Circulations have decreased due to other reasons. As you should know, Amiga
materials were no more than 2-5% of the total.

Good Luck...

... IBM: Incompetent Business Maniacs.

probably
VM> you don’t notice, but the threat of a general “Amigization” of St. Petersburg spektrumists
has disappeared
VM> forever. The only victims left were ZX-Format, which undermined its
reputation
VM> with pro-Amig articles, which is why its circulation in the last issues of
VM> decreased greatly (according to _rumours_ ;)

and among Amizhniki... especially after Kovalevsky’s article :) he
almost drowned everyone who shouted rulez.

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MR> yes? If you don’t have to pay for the bells and whistles, then that’s great. Yes, and for
MR> the remaining Spectrum+ is no more than 65 tr. for a fee. Then rulez. Otherwise
MR> as it is now ~150$ - A500 with great capabilities is better...
Sprinter is significantly cheaper than Spectrum + a separate bells and whistles.
...
MR> Do you have this? No. :))) And for the Spectrum with its planar
MR> graphics, such a motor would be very useful...
Yes. Yes, yes. Judging by all the previous words, I can say
Blitter AMIGA = Accelerator Sprinter.
Don’t swear too much, I know it’s not equal, but we are striving for this.

MR> Yes, I forgot - it can also make shifts on the go, etc...
What else is there? (Perhaps you can throw in some info, if you have one?)

MR> And about the time... Given that those commands are in the cache - fetching
MR> them in a good process takes 1 clock cycle per command... only the
MR> memory slows down.
In the accelerator it is done so that time is spent only on the data transfer itself
and on setting the command to the accelerator.

...
MR> on 060 the cycle operator is predicted and executed in 0 clock cycles.
060 (imho) costs more than Sprinter.

MR> Good Luck...

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█ Once upon a time, Wednesday January 07 1998 21:43, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

...
MR> no, but it’s also one-time programmable... Do you have
MR> several combinations of hardware programmed?
Ah-ah! This is not a one-time or multiple-time event! This is infinitely
programmable logic. It is based on RAM, not ROM. To change the circuit, you need to send 16 kilobytes of information to the PLM chip. This is done when the machine is turned on and can be done at any time. Those. I took the floppy disk,
loaded the _new_ circuit_ into the machine and started working.

MR> ‰a, ◊ ƒœ«œŒÀ’ ◊œ–“œ” Œa ⁄a”Ÿ–À’:
MR> ÎaÀ œ“«aŒ…⁄œ◊aŒœ »a“ƒ◊a“Œœ≈ ’ÕŒœ÷≈Œ…≈/ƒ≈Ã≈Œ…≈?
MR> Œ≈ ‘œ, ÀaÀ œŒœ “a¬œ‘a≈‘, a ÀaÀ ≈«œ …”–œÃÿ⁄œ◊a‘ÿ ”œ ”‘œ“œŒŸ –“œ«“aÕÕ.
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”–≈√…¡ÃÿŒ’¿ ”‘p¡Œ…√’ Ô˙ı ” Õ¡‘. ∆’ŒÀ√…—Õ….

ç Îœ«ƒ¡-‘œ, Wednesday January 07 1998 19:45, Andrew Savichev
ç –…”¡Ã ƒÃ— All:

AS> ˙¡¬ŸÃ ”–“œ”…‘ÿ, ¡ Õœ÷Œœ ”‘¡◊…‘ÿ ƒÃ…ŒŒŸ≈ 8M SIMM 60Œ”?
AS> Ëœ‘— –œ Õœ≈Õ’ œ‘◊≈‘ œfi≈◊…ƒ≈Œ: Œ≈Ãÿ⁄— ;)
˜œœ¬›≈ «œ◊œp—, ◊ Sprinter-≈ ”‘œ…‘ …Õ≈ŒŒœ 'ƒÃ…ŒŒŸ ' SIMM 4Mb.
8Mb –œ”‘¡◊…‘ÿ Õœ÷Œœ, Œœ ƒÃ— Œ…» –œÀ¡ Œ≈‘ ”»≈ÕŸ p¡”–p≈ƒ≈Ã≈Œ…— –¡Õ—‘….

AS> What about the scanner? Have you tried plugging it in?
Not yet, but we will try.

AS> Another very progressive Touchpad device - gfx-ers would be very
AS> grateful.
And what is this?

AS> Another very interesting question is how in the bright future a video helmet will be connected to the Sprinter
AS> if the video is “on the motherboard” and cannot be used like me
AS> understood the modernization, 3D-mouse and videophone? And if there are other editions
AS> of “mother”, then why programmable logic?
Just the opposite. The video on the board can be upgraded. I don't know what about the helmet. You still need to figure out what kind of fruit it is.
As for the programmable logic, it is installed specifically for the possibility of
modernization.
PLM on Sprinter are microcircuits created on the basis of FLEX technology. This
means that the storage cells, which define all the logic inside the PLM,
are RAM cells, not ROM. The circuit in the PLM can be changed directly while the computer is running. And this means that no matter how the computer is modernized in the future, all old versions of programs will run on it without problems, because they will be able to include exactly the computer circuit for which they were written.

MR> why did it suddenly disappear?

Due to insolvency.

MR> Circulations decreased due to other reasons. As you should know, Amiga
MR> materials were no more than 2-5% of the total amount.

A fly in the ointment :(

Warm greetings, Slava!

MR> aha!!! This is where you are :)))
>
MR> Spectrum would not have become so widespread in our country if
MR> had not been:

Now it’s not 1987, :) & :(
>
MR> a. easy to repeat on the Soviet electronic base
Now any bourgeois element base is available, but the average salary
in Russia: Moscow 1.5 million rubles/22 = 68.8 thousand/day (68.8 new, $11.27/day)
St. Petersburg 1.1 million rubles/22 = 50.0 thousand/day (50.0 new, $8.20/day)
Can be compared with 160 wooden?, and :( because of the very expensive food and not only,
i.e. the ratio of food/hardware has changed dramatically, and the standard of living of the people has deteriorated greatly.

MR> b. had a large number of different programs
Mostly gaming, mostly stolen, mostly in a terrible form after the
Polish hack... all that, what was in 1987 (most) IMHO
now classified as a “garbage dump”.
> did not need expensive equipment for work (cassette recorder
> and TV)...
Flopik - $19-22 i.e. two-day average salary, in 1987 - mafon - monthly :(
Monitor - $ 180 (TV is even more expensive now!) - less than a month’s salary, TV
in 1987 - 750 rubles = more than 4 monthly salaries.
In a word, citizens, if it weren’t for a hungry stomach and unemployment, all the hardware would have become 5-10 times bigger.more accessible, but the food “bites” :( yes sometimes
SUCH QUALITY... (I’m writing after a sleepless night - I was poisoned by canned food: 9 )

> AE> And there are people who write for SPRINTER and are not going to
> AE> slow down on this.
>
MR> And I don’t argue that it’s always on different one-day companies there were
MR> enthusiasts. Only usually they did it for the sake of interest, and in this
MR> case, apparently, it will be for the sake of profit.
“Everyone needs to eat” - this is one, “he who does not take risks does not drink champagne” - this is
two, “water does not run under a lying stone” ... continue? :)

MR> Because. hoping that in the absence of fish and meat - fish... i.e. The authors of
MR> hope that people will abandon their Spectrums and rush to buy
MR> sprinters, for the sake of having bells and whistles... + will buy their programs,
MR> because There are no other alternatives. Those. whoever is first gets more.
There are hardmakers, softmakers, users and other people in SpectrumWorld.
There is no need to give up Spectrums, even 48, IMHO... if we can’t have
2 cars, then at least we will have 2-3 compers :)
What will softmakers and competing hardmakers buy first ;) -
this obviously. For now, IMHO, ordinary users really have nothing to do with Sprinter. In order for soft makers to actively take it, you need to provide good documentation -
this is now after the start of sales - TASK N1, as well asWide ADVERTISING -
PROOMING. Custom software is also needed - especially: DRIVERS, DOS, network SOFT, assembler, editor. All this, as I understand it, is being actively written. You also need tests, antiviruses, demo programs, and better yet at least one cool game to demonstrate all the bells and whistles. The rest will be picked up by independent
software makers and users.

Totally incompatible.

Best wishes! Michael KLUG

VM> Due to insolvency.

poor people or what? :).

IM> HDD, Mouse, IBM-Keyboard are already on the Sprinter board itself. All that remains
IM> is only the modem, and it is plugged into the regular Spectrum through .. (I apologize).

I am asking about the BUS, and not about what is already on the computer. So: do you have a system bus?

IM> Give the monster a little love and he will cease to be such.

do you think that all users will rush to sell their old computers and
buy a new one, for the sake of starting love from the beginning? Or will you make an exchange with
an additional payment?

What are you hoping for?

IM> Sprinter is significantly cheaper than Spectrum + separate bells and whistles.

I have no doubt. But the market has long been saturated... and the new model
may not get widespread distribution...

IM> Yes. Yes, yes. Judging by all the previous words, I can say
IM> Blitter AMIGA = Accelerator Sprinter.
IM> Don’t swear too much, I know it’s not equal, but that’s what we’re striving for.

No... you talked about 2 sources and one receiver. How are you? Can you
write exactly?

IM> What else is there? (Maybe you can give some soapy info, if you have one?)

a lot of things. soap, I'm afraid there will be too much...

IM> In the accelerator it is done in such a way that time is spent only on the actual transfer
IM> of data and on assigning a command to the accelerator.

yeah, but can the percentage work in parallel with your 'blitter'? (question
for filling, but I think it can’t, let’s see if I’m right:)

IM> 060 (imho) costs more than Sprinter.

And maybe more :)

Good Luck...

... Macintosh: Isn't that a type of raincoat?

IM> A-a-a! This is not a one-time or multiple-time event! This is infinitely
IM> programmable logic. It is based on RAM, not ROM. In order
IM> to change the circuit, you need to send 16 kilobytes of information to the PLM chip.
IM> This is done when you turn on the machine and can be done at any time
IM>. Those. I took the floppy disk, loaded the _new_scheme_ into the machine and started working.

gee. Can I install a battery so as not to overload it? What about
the fact that if you overload it while working, how will it react?
Will there be any glitches? Or does everything freeze at this moment?

IM> I heard it, but didn’t see it. Is it well compatible with the ZX-Spectrum?

No, of course. It is based on 68008, and was made by afaik as a
computer for schools. They were even sold afaik...

Good Luck...

... Windows Error 01A: Operating system overwritten. Terribly sorry.

IM> I’m still thinking about how to do it better. Any ideas? I myself am thinking of making
IM> a special page of RAM with mat. functions.

No page needed. Although it is possible. And it's easy to do. Depending on
the bit depth of the operations. Data of operand 1/data of operand 2. For
umn/divisions - different cells. In the data of operand 2 - the
result appears. Activation occurs when the low
byte is written to operand2. Operand 1 may not change (for numerous
multiplications/divisions by some constant).

Of course, the state flag must be present. those. flag. Data capacity
is 32 bits. Always.

p.s. it all depends on what you can do.

Good Luck...

... Don't be so open-minded your brains will fall out.

MM> More precisely, Sinclair QL.

yes.

Good Luck...

... IBM P(iece of)C(rap).

AS> Now it’s not 1987, :) & :(

the fact of the matter is that today the demands are different, and there are other things for
the same money. The best...

AS> Nowadays any bourgeois elemental the base is available, but the average salary in

this base is a waste. For more sophisticated development of your own
chips, you need big money.

AS> Mostly gaming, mostly stolen, mostly in a terrible form after
AS> the Polish hack... everything that was in 1987 ( the majority) IMHO
AS> is now classified as a “garbage dump”.

Nevertheless, 87-92 was the heyday of Spectrum. Nevertheless,
there were programs, and they worked..

AS> Flopik - $19-22 i.e. two-day average salary, in 1987 - mafon -

flopik - before there could be no talk of anything else besides them.
The programs were much smaller (not about spec)

AS> monthly :( Monitor - $ 180 (TV is even more expensive now! ) - less
AS> monthly salary, TV in 1987 - 750 rubles = More than 4 monthly
AS> salaries.

that’s right, what TV and what monitor are different things.

AS> In a word, citizens, if it weren’t for a hungry stomach and unemployment, all
AS> if the hardware would become 5-10 times more accessible, but the food “bites” :( yes
AS> sometimes SUCH QUALITY... (I’m writing after a sleepless night - I was poisoned
AS> by canned food:9 )

those pieces of hardware that are already obsolete become available...
this always happens with everything.

AS> “Everyone needs to eat” - this is the case, “he who doesn’t take risks, doesn’t drink champagne”

the authors of the software in this case don’t take risks - they don’t lose anything.
Users are losing. Having exchanged money for something incomprehensible with incomprehensible
what kind of software.

AS> - these are two, “water does not run under a lying stone” ... continue? :)

I'm talking about the fact that today there is no point in pouring water under such an expensive stone.

AS> There is no need to throw away Spectrums, even 48, IMHO... if we cannot have 2
AS> cars, then at least we will have 2-3 computers :)

2-3 computers should be DIFFERENT. To have something identical in
several copies is strange...

AS> What soft makers and competing hard makers will be the first to buy ;) -
AS> this is obvious. Ordinary users with Sprinter, IMHO, really have
AS> nothing to do yet. In order for soft makers to actively hire you need to provide good
AS> documentation - this is now after the start of sales - TASK N1, as well as
AS> wide ADVERTISING - PROMOTION. Custom software is also needed - especially:
AS> DRIVERS, DOS, network SOFT, assembler, editor. All this, as I understand it,
AS> is being actively written. You also need tests, antiviruses, demo
AS> programs, and better yet at least one cool game fordemonstrations of all
AS> bells and whistles. The rest will be picked up by independent software makers and users.

that's right, something is being written. WHEN it is written, there will be surprised faces
about the fact that practically no one needs it, because... those who
can't raise anything else except the spec - don't buy the monster, and those who
want further - won't buy it either, because there is better, for the same money.

AS> Read about how Sinclair QL “buried” Sir Clive’s company, for example,

it was not he who buried, but his approach to business. Nevertheless, it existed.

AS> It’s great anyway, it’s just that 4 “meter” sims will soon completely disappear.

will you install 8 meter ones, which will work like 4x ;)

AS> So, is there at least a music editor (extensions for existing ones)?

if GS is still barely available wrote something (?) for a year... we will
wait a year for sPRINTER...

AS> 3) in the near future others will simply disappear from the market!!!

TVs will always be on the market ;≥)

AS> Of course, you know better, but in the z180, however, it was a pity that they threw it out :(

a they are not Z180...

AS> clings to the com port and replaces the mouse for better
AS> drawing.

yes, it’s usually called Tablet.

AS> Ready-made, from petse, may not be suitable, you can make it from two LCDs -
AS> one for each eye and mini-headphones for each ear, supplemented

yes, maybe you know where to get these LCDs of yours?:))) В свободной
продaже их точно нет.

Good Luck...

... "Suppose you were a total idiot. Suppose you were also a member
of Congress. But, I repeat myself..." -- M. Twain

MR> this can be said about you. Forgot how you sang about it here? Who
MR> blew it all up?

This was an alternative opinion (the fight against stubbornness)

Warm greetings, Slava!

PF> and among the Amizhniki... especially after Kovalevsky's article :) he
PF> after all, he almost drowned everyone who shouted rulez.

He simply caused a sea of ​​nonsense. Moreover, it was nonsense of such strength, it’s hard to compare with
anything.

With respect, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

IM>> melody. So I already have this, but it’s not impressive. Eh, I wish I could find
IM>> someone who writes music.
AS> So, is there at least a music editor (extensions to existing ones)?
There are music editors using COVOX. They work fine after setting the port address. (In Sprinter-e - #4F).
And work on the sound card is in the plan immediately after finishing off AY-3-8910.

AS> IMHO, include more ready-made devices from puss
AS> (CD-ROM, zip-drive, scanner) and work on making the motherboard cheaper, and
SD-ROM can actually be included now. It only requires software. Other
devices can be connected if they have an IDE interface or cards
inserted into the ISA-8 slot.

AS> the “third millennium” will somehow wait ;) And you need to connect SVGA
AS> monitors!: 1) cheaper than TVs; 2) many have; 3) in
AS> the near future, others will simply disappear from the market!!!
SVGA is in the plan for the next machine, i.e. will appear by the time the other
monitors disappear. They definitely won’t disappear before a year.

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█ Once upon a time, Saturday January 10 1998 01:03, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

MR> I’m asking about the BUS, and not about what’s already on the computer. So:
MR> do you have a system bus?
Yes. Buffered. Wiring of signals on the connector in the ISA-8
(IBM-PC) standard.

MR> Do you think that all users will rush to sell their old computers and
MR> buy a new one, for the sake of starting love from the beginning? Or will you make an exchange with
MR> with an additional payment?
They won’t rush. And there will be an exchange with an additional payment. There will also be a sale of individual boards for independent screwdriver assembly. In this case, the user will need to throw away only one board. (Maybe not even throw it away, but adapt it somewhere or sell it.)
Besides, there are quite a few people who don’t have any computers at all.
MR> What do you hope for?
That’s exactly what you hope for. And for that.

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█ Once upon a time, Saturday January 10 1998 01:06, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

IM>> A-a-a! This is not a one-time or multiple-time event! This is
IM>> infinitely programmable logic....
...
MR> gee. Can I install a battery so as not to overload it? What about
There is no need to install a battery. The circuit is located in ROM and is loaded at the moment of switching on in less than 1 second. Then another one can be loaded from a screw or floppy disk. Loading 16k is not so much.
MR> What if you overload it while working - how will it react?
MR> Will there be any glitches? Or does everything freeze at this moment?
You can overload during work. At this moment, everything freezes, and after
a reboot, a hardware reset appears to set the entire new circuit to its
initial state. Glitches is not the right word. On the screen it looks something like
switching video modes on a PC.

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█ Once upon a time, Saturday January 10 1998 01:15, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:
...
[about multiplication/division]
...
MR> p.s. it all depends on what you can do.
I make sure that the operands and results are in different cells. The bit width and operation
will be determined by another cell, and the result flags will be removed from
the cell. The results will be multiple. Those. after division, the result of division will appear in one cell, and the remainder of the division in another. When multiplying 32x32
the result is 64-bit.
The multiplication operation will apparently be like this: A*B+C i.e. At the moment of multiplying two
numbers of digit N, a 'carry' N-bit number will be added.

VM> An alternative opinion was (a fight against stubbornness)

it was not a fight against stubbornness, but minor sabotage not based on
hostility to the platform.

Good Luck...

... "Set phasers to 'humiliate,' Mr. Worf."

IM> Yes. Buffered. Signal wiring on the connector is in the ISA-8
IM> (IBM-PC) standard.

This bus is not compatible with any bus on ZX-compatible machines.
I won’t take a sprinter because it’s impossible to plug in a
programmer... Which I can plug into pro, kai, scorp.

IM> They won’t rush. And there will be an exchange with an additional payment. There will also be a sale of individual boards

this is better.

IM> for self-assembly with a screwdriver. In this case, the user will need

separate boards - does this mean configured and just screwed in? They
will cost not much less.

IM> throw out only one board. (Maybe not even throw it away, but adapt
IM> somewhere or sell it.) In addition, there are quite a few people who don’t have
IM> any computers at all.

These people don’t buy a Spectrum today...

IM> That’s exactly what they’re looking for. And for that.

Let's see if your hopes come true...

IM> It may not get it, it may get it. Let's see. :)

We'll see. You already know MY opinion.

IM> The accelerator has its own battery with a capacity of 256 bytes. You take the string
IM> into the accelerator accumulator, do OR, AND,
IM> XOR with it and one source and send it to RAM.

Okay, But this is still not the same. The blitter works with rectangular
pieces of memory. Those. for example, it makes increments in order to get to the
trail. line, if the sprite is smaller than the screen... does a lot of things.
And withonce.

IM> Maybe then you can transfer it on a floppy disk? (Suddenly I’ll become an Amiga owner :-))

Sell one sprinter, buy one Amiga with this money ;)

IM> This is right. But not for long.

In order for it to work like this, you need to make a very
sophisticated memory controller that will distribute DMA
channels by priority. For example, in the Amiga, the processor and the blitter have
the lowest priority for accessing the chipset memory. (they can change
the level between themselves - either a stronger percentage or a blitter). Video DMA
has the highest priority, followed in descending order by AUDIO, DISK,
COPPER...

Good Luck...

... Have you crashed your Windows today?

IM> I do it in such a way that the operands and results are in different cells. Bit depth and

why? Then you will have to make a register for the strobe, i.e. the start
of the operation is an extra brake.

IM> the operation will be determined by another cell, and the result flags

and why?

IM> will be removed from the cell. The results will be multiple. Those. after
IM> division, the result of division will appear in one cell, and in another
IM> the remainder of the division. When multiplying 32x32, the result is 64-bit.

64-bit results, I think, are not needed.

IM> The multiplication operation will apparently be like this: A*B+C i.e. At the moment
IM> of multiplying two numbers of digit N, a 'transfer'
IM> N-bit number will be added.

You're making a garden. Look how this is done in normal
processes.

Good Luck...

... What's worse, a part missing or a part left over?

PF> and even the Amizhniks... especially after Kovalevsky’s article :) he
PF> after all, he almost drowned everyone who shouted rulez.

yeah. It’s just that no one has written about pe-tse yet. Otherwise, they would drown you too.

And writing articles and releasing OUTDATED data a year later is
insanity. It’s even more crazy to react to this.

Good Luck...

... Windows is Irrelevent. It's existance is futile.

IM> reboot, a hardware reset appears to set the entire new circuit
IM> to its initial state. Glitches is not the right word. On the screen it looks
IM> similar to switching video modes on a PC.

Hard reset does not reset the percentage?

Good Luck...

... Iraq has won the toss, and has elected to recieve.

IM> Not EDO is already disappearing. I have information on EDO, but not complete. Maybe
IM> someone knows where to get it? There is a burst mode, which
IM> allows you to speed up data sampling, but how it is turned on is not clear.

I don’t care whether it’s EDO or not. It's transparent. Those. can work in simple
mode without any distortions. And EDO is something like in Russian, -
you tact, and the address increases.

Good Luck...

... "Is fire supposed to shoot out of it like that?"

I remember that hardware multiplication/division was discussed here.
Aren’t you aware that Zilog makes coprocessors for such things?

===== Cut =====

AUXILIARY CIRCUITS.
With Z8000 microprocessors you can use 8-bit
Z80 CPU auxiliary chips (PIO, SIO and STC) if
demultiplex the address/data bus. However, for 16-bit CPUs, Zilog is releasing two new families of auxiliary chips: Z-bus devices numbered Z80XX, which connect to the Z8000 buses, including the multiplex address/data bus; universal devices numbered Z85XX, which connect to the CPU without a multiplex bus addresses/data.

Peripheral chips:
for │ univ│
Z-bus│ │ function
│ │
Z8016 │ Z8516 │DMA controller
Z8030 │ Z8530 │-/- serial communication
Z8031 │ Z8531 │-/- async -/-
Z8036 │ Z8536 │counter/timer and parallel I/O
Z8038 │ Z8538 │interface input/output device [FIFO]
Z8060 │ Z8560 │FIFO buffer and Z-FIO expander
Z8068 │ ----- │data encryption processor
Z8070 │ ----- │floating point processor
Z8090/4, Z8590/4 - universal peripheral controller.

Floating point processor Z8070 (FPU) is classified by Zilog as a so-called extended processorarchitecture and calls it
EPU (extension processor). It connects to the CPU buses and
performs floating-point arithmetic in parallel with the CPU. The floating point processor
controls the command flow in conjunction with the CPU, identifying and
executing its commands. Although the internal format of the FPU corresponds to
80-bit floating point numbers, data transfer between them
to the CPU is carried out in bytes and words.

===== Cut =====

I didn’t write this entire text, but it contains 16 and
32 bit Zilog processors and all sorts of peripheral small circuits.
Imho, we need to switch to a new one percent, and use the whole variety of
Zilog hardware.
But the Z8070 must be connected now. Definitely.

Jason.

500:95/462.18@ZXNet

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█ Once upon a time, Monday January 05 1998 12:40, Denis Markelov
█ wrote for Roman Alexandrov:

...
RA>> Equipment? Price?
DM> And I’m wondering what the price is?

Sprinter computer - 990 new rubles.

Standard equipment - Mini-Tower case, power supply, Sprinter board, 21MHz, RAM
4Mb, FDD 3.5", IBM-keyboard, MS-Mouse.
Peters also undertakes make a free Upgrade HARD & SOFT
Sprinter in a standard configuration until June 98.

Sprinter board 21MHz, 4Mb RAM - 590 new rubles.

The board has controllers FDD, IDE HDD, IBM-AT Keyboard, MS-Mouse, two slots in
standard ISA-8.

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█ Once upon a time, Monday January 12 1998 01:23, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

MR> This tire is not compatible with any tire on ZX-compatible cars.
MR> I won’t take a sprinter also because of the impossibility of plugging in
MR> a programmer... Which I can plug into a pro, kai, scorp.
Owner sir.

MR> separate boards - does this mean configured and just screwed in? They
MR> will cost not much less.
Yes. The cost will be 590p.

IM>> Besides, there are quite a few people who don’t have any computers at all.
MR> These people can’t buy a Spectrum today...
Time will tell.
MR> Let’s see if your hopes are justified...

MR> And sell one sprinter, buy one Amiga for these money ;)
With this money, I’ll most likely buy a Sprinter again. :))

MR> Hard reset does not reset the processor?
Resets. (From the third floor :))
After rebooting the circuit, the entire system starts again. However, this may be a different system, because... Sprinter allows you to replace ROM with write-protected RAM.

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█ Once upon a time, Monday January 12 1998 01:28, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

IM>> I make it so that the operands and results are in different cells.
IM>> Bit capacity and
MR> why? Then you will have to make a register for the strobe, i.e. the start
MR> of the operation is an extra brake.
The start of the operation is writing the command to the operation code cell. There is no other way to do it. The operands are stored sequentially in bytes and it is not always clear which
byte to start on.

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█ Once upon a time, Monday January 12 1998 02:21, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

MR> I don’t care whether it’s EDO or not. It's transparent. Those. can work in simple
MR> mode without any perversions. And EDO is something like in Russian, -
MR> you tact, and the address increases.
I know that. But in EDO the additional cycles are shorter than on RU7. I would like
to know how many and how to form them.

Well, my friend, you blew it here. It is immediately clear that 500 does not have EDO.

2Ivan: EDO= Extended Data Output. The data sticks out at the outputs until the start of the next
sampling cycle.

With best wishes - Andrey Khristov (ha...@robin.alt.ru)

[Team Horse Aviation] [Team beer, girls & sofa]
[Team Electric Welding Must Die!] [Team Khasansky border guards]

IM> Resets. (From the third floor :))
IM> After rebooting the circuit, the entire system starts again. However, this
IM> may already be a different system, because Sprinter allows you to replace the ROM
IM> with write-protected RAM.

very *BAD* . Resetting should be an option, but not an obligation.

Good Luck...

... It will be released in four weeks. They promised me.

IM> The beginning of the operation is writing the command into the operation code cell. There is no other way to do it
IM>. The operands are stored sequentially in bytes and it is not always
IM> clear on which byte to start.

Damn, I said: BY THE LOW BYTE OF THE 2nd OPERAND. In any case
you will write there. So why make an additional strobe
? The approach is clearly wingless. (this is what happens when
there are no full-time programmers)

IM> You need to determine what you are doing, multiplication or division.

who needs it? The program itself knows what it is doing. For multiplications/
divisions, different cells are used, which makes it possible, if
regular multiplications/divisions are necessary, not to constantly overload
them entirely.

IM> Perhaps so.

For an 8-bit system with 64k memory - 32 bits, and that’s a lot, but
look...

IM> I don’t have a normal one percent :)))

Why make things complicated? Just read how flags work. And don't
worry.

IM> A +C in the multiplier circuit is obtained automatically without slowing down the operation. In
IM> in normal cases, C is simply canceled.

Yeah, I was daydreaming :)

Good Luck...

... No dear, don't use the foyamxAHsh`·≥NO CARRIER

IM> I know this. But in EDO the additional cycles are shorter than on RU7.

What do you mean - shorter?! afaik ru7 has an increment of address on
the crystal when clocking CAS-a.

IM> I would like to know how much and how to form them.

go to the pisish hardware echoes.

Good Luck...

... Macintosh: the computer with training wheels you can't remove.

IM> Master, master.

yeah, and you just very easily neglect the standards that
were formed in a fierce struggle...

IM> Yes. They will cost - 590p.

$100 - costs a500. Moreover, it’s a ready-made computer, in which you don’t need to install or buy anything to
work.

IM> Time will tell.

Doesn’t the current state of affairs scare you?

IM> With this money, I’ll probably buy a Sprinter again. :))

well... buy it.

Good Luck...

... "Beam me aboard, Scotty!"
"Aye, Cap'n! Uh, will a two-by-four do?"

VK(> ===== Cut =====

VK(> I didn’t throw this entire text, but it shows 16 and
VK(> 32 bit Zilog processors and all sorts of peripheral small circuits.
VK(> IMHO, you need to switch to a new processor and use everything variety
VK(> Zilog hardware.
VK(> But the Z8070 must be connected now. It is a must.

it’s right that I didn’t, because these processors are not at all compatible with the Z80
family.

Good Luck...

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█ Once upon a time, Monday January 12 1998 20:57, Valerij Kozhevnik (095/462.18)
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

VK> I remember that hardware multiplication/division was discussed here.
VK> Don’t you know that Zilog makes coprocessors for such things?
[Skippy dragged away]
VK> But the Z8070 needs to be connected now. Absolutely.
Z84C15 is a line of Z80, not Z8000. This coprocessor cannot be connected to it. :(
Or am I wrong?
By the way, where can I get information about all this?

Like, do the multiplication of 64-bit or more numbers :))

In general, in all sorts of graphical 2D/3D transformations in 90% of cases
multiplication goes together with division (IMHO): res1*res2/res3.
Here you can really do without 64-bit numbers (i.e. they will only be
intermediate result).

Warm greetings, Slava!

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█ Once upon a time, Tuesday January 13 1998 23:40, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

...
MR> very *BAD* . Resetting should be an option, but not an
MR> obligation.
And how should we understand this? Is there a reset that doesn't reset? This is already something
strange.

IM>> Yes. They will cost - 590p.

MR> $100 - costs a500. Moreover, it’s a ready-made computer, in which you don’t need to install or buy anything to
MR> work.
But the A500 has less capabilities than the Sprinter. :)
That’s why you were afraid to post answers to my questions here. :)))
And this AMIGA is not a ZX-Spectrum at all.

And the Sprinter has this.
8-bit processor, 21MHz.
RAM - 4Mb. The speed of filling pixels on the screen in 256-color graphic mode
up to 7 million pixels per second.
The speed of transferring data from memory to memory (including video)
up to 3.5 million bytes per second.
HDD controller.
FDD controller - disks up to 1.44 Mb.

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to█ Tuesday 8, January 23:54, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

[ppo EDO]
MR> go into the pissy hardware echoes.
Gone..

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█ Once upon a time, Tuesday January 13 1998 23:45, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

IM>> The start of the operation is writing the command to the operation code cell. A
IM>> there is no other way to do it. The operands are stored sequentially in bytes and
IM>> it is not always clear which byte to start on.

MR> Damn, I said it: BY THE LOW BYTE OF THE 2nd OPERAND. In any
MR> case you will write there. So why make an additional strobe
MR>? The approach is clearly wingless. (this is what happens when
MR> there are no full-time programmers)
So, maybe I’ll do that. I didn’t write that everything would be exactly as I said. That's why I asked your opinion. :)

MR> who needs it? The program itself knows what it is doing. For multiplications/
MR> divisions, different cells are used, which makes it possible, when
MR> regular multiplications/divisions are necessary, not to constantly overload
MR> them entirely.
But this is not a bad idea. (How much does it cost? :))
It seems that it’s not in vain that we are here at the market.

IM> And how to understand this? Is there a reset that doesn't reset? This is already something
IM> strange.

when changing the config, the reset should not happen. (i.e. disabled)

Good Luck...

... Don't use a big word where a diminutive one will suffice.

IM> But the A500 has less capabilities than the Sprinter. :)

Let's bet $100, which is more? There is more software, a-> opportunities.

IM> That’s why you were afraid to throw answers to my questions here. :)))

No, it’s just off-topic here.

IM> And this AMIGA is not a ZX-Spectrum at all.

Yes, but in terms of price your sprinter has already caught up and OVERCALLED. That should say
something. The Spectrum shouldn't cost so much money...

IM> Processor 8 bits, 21MHz.

Yeah, this is something like a joke :)

IM> RAM - 4Mb. The speed of filling pixels on the screen in 256-color graphic
IM> mode
IM> is up to 7 million pixels per second.

why BEFORE? The exact figure is not known?

Good Luck...

... The Definition of an Upgrade: Take old bugs out, put new ones in.

IM> Perhaps I don’t know how to multiply, but I can’t do it without +C.

In normal processes, C is like a flag for the result of the operation.

Good Luck...

... No wanna work. Wanna bang on keyboard.

VM> They are needed to avoid overflow.

they are needed if you multiply 32-bit numbers, which in principle
are also not needed.

Good Luck...

... Windows Error 01B: Illegal error. Do not get this error.

13 Jan 98 23:40, Max Romanoff told Ivan Mak about {Sprinter}:

MR> a500. Moreover, it’s a ready-made computer that doesn’t require

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█ wrote for Vyacheslav Mednonogov:
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█ Once upon a time, Thursday January 15 1998 08:12, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

MR> when changing the config, the reset should not occur. (i.e. disabled)
It depends on what config is being changed. If the port
or screen configuration changes, there is no reset. If the entire circuit changes, then in this case you cannot do without a
reset, because at the moment of turning off the circuit (resetting the PLM), the processor
is left alone with its ROM, one page of RAM without any ports at all.
At this moment it is only loading the PLM, and as soon as it is loaded,
happens transition to the program in RAM. This is done through RESET, because
there is no other way...

MR> Let's bet $100, which is more? There are more software and -> possibilities.
I'm talking about hardware, not Soft. But I won’t bet on money. (I'm afraid:)
...
MR> Yes, but in terms of price your sprinter has already caught up and OVERCALLED. This should say something about
MR>. The Spectrum should not cost so much money...
But it still costs..

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█ Once upon a time, Thursday January 15 1998 08:14, Max Romanoff
█ wrote for Ivan Mak:

IM>> Perhaps I don’t know how to multiply, but I can’t do it without +C.
MR> in normal processes, C is like a flag for the result of the operation.
And two commands ADD and ADC appear. The last one adds a flag. A similar
situation (in hardware) with multiplication. Only the MUL command always sets C to zero.

Fri 09-Jan-98 03:00, Ivan Mak (2:5030/529.24) wrote a letter to Max Romanoff:

MR>> Periphery. Do you have a standard tire? :) I'm not talking about XT.
IM> HDD, Mouse, IBM-Keyboard are already on the Sprinter board itself. All that remains
IM> is only the modem, and it plugs into the regular Spectrum through.. (I apologize).

... a bus that you don’t have... By the way, _not_ only the x-trade modem plugs into it,
for example, the programmer is also made for the bus.

With best wishes, Vladimir.

AK> Well, my friend, you blew it here. It is immediately clear that there is no EDO in 500.

No, and there are no 32-bit Sims in the a500 either.

AK> 2Ivan: EDO= Extended Data Output. The data sticks out at the outputs until the start
AK> of the next sampling cycle.

what's the gain then?

Good Luck...

... Oregano: the ancient Italian art of pizza folding.

VM> Max, don’t wake the dead from their graves!

Ah, yes, Mr. sophisticated pervert, specializing in dead
children :)

Good Luck...

... Friends don't let friends use Windows.

IM> I'm talking about hardware, not Soft. But I won’t bet on money. (I'm afraid:)

Well, here we are... hardware can't do anything without software. No matter how beautiful it may be
, and sophisticated. Besides, the user doesn’t care about
how cool the hardware is, he is primarily concerned about the price
and what he will get for this money in everyday use.

IM> But it’s still worth it..

-> I have long argued that the sprinter is a MONSTER.

IM> In 8-bit it was something like 5MHz..

But it still can run 8-bit code. From this
itself, 5 megahertz, that’s what I’m talking about. It’s the same for you. On the basis of
a morally outdated process, make a new monster, and even under the
curtain....

IM> “BEFORE” because it is less or equal. And if we take only the speed
IM> of the accelerator, then there is exactly 7 million.

Now tell us where this figure comes from.

Good Luck...

... Hackito ergo sum.

IM> 8-[ ]...

problems? :) No, well, I understand, on 32-bit processors you need
multiplication/division to obtain 64-bit results, but on
8-bit...

Good Luck...

... Windows: Just another pain in the glass.

IM> It depends on what config is being changed. If the configuration of
IM> ports or screen changes, there is no reset. If the entire circuit changes, then in this case
IM> you cannot do without a reset, because at the moment the circuit
IM> is turned off (PLM reset), the processor is left alone with its ROM, one page of
IM> RAM without any ports at all. At this moment, he is only engaged in
IM> loading the PLM, and as soon as it is loaded, there is a transition to the
IM> program in RAM. This is done through RESET, because there is no other way...

hmm... the vaunted protection from hackers by changing the configuration goes
in a row towards the tundra...

Good Luck...

... In your config.sys you must specify BUGS=OFF.