Thank you, Sergey, and everyone who helped with the shell for RVL4! :)

I wish I had such perseverance in achieving goals!
After all, “you did it!” Sincere congratulations to the editor-in-chief and the entire
team! :). successfully...there are only 3 days left to wait and, God willing,
(pah-pah-pah, so as not to jinx it) Spectrum's Network Universe will soon become even
larger :)
With my personal creativity, the situation is somewhat worse - the whole last
week I had to remove things from my old job (every day a pound of all sorts of "pieces of hardware" and books). But the best time for creativity - Christmas is just around the corner, and then new years are coming :)
I wish you all creative achievements, implementation of plans and successful completion
of what you started!

Best regards!Andrey S. AKA m@s/CENSUS GROUP Spb

AS> I wish I had such perseverance in achieving goals!
AS> Still, “you did it!” Sincere congratulations to the editor-in-chief and the entire
AS> team! :)

Thanks...

AS> If possible, tell us about your creative plans for the near future...

It’s somehow awkward to write about yourself ;) We’ll have to release more toys... Until
you accept Fargo Wells, Road Runner 2 demo, Knightmare, Outlaw, Nemesis the
Warlock, Psycho City... (²Artie: what’s already happened?) Shark, most likely, will have to be
abandoned, after all, there is already one version, although without a weapon cheat and help...

In addition, you could do RVL4.2, although you don’t want to: it’s at least 100 hours
of work. And, as always, there is no time.

AS> On behalf of myself and my friends, I want to inform everyone that the voting for the opening
AS> echoes of RELCOM.COMP.SPECCY is going very successfully...

Excellent.

With God's blessing, Sergei Novikov AKA Spirit/STEP

ZxNet: 095/100.99, FidoNet: 2:5020/689.1, InterNet: reviv...@chat.ru
Phone: (095) 952-46-19 [16.00-18.00]

... Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lordmy Soul to keep.

SN> It’s somehow inconvenient to write about myself ;) I’ll have to release more toys...
SN> Until you accept Fargo Wells, Road Runner 2 demo, Knightmare, Outlaw,
SN> Nemesis the Warlock, Psycho City...
Oopsssssss.... From a newspaper/magazine/game-makers Step has turned into nothing an unremarkable "hacker-release" group. Well... Fate...
But they were going to sweep out the hackers with a filthy broom...

SN> In addition, you could do RVL4.2, although you don’t want to: this is at least 100
SN> hours of work. And, as always, there is no time.
Well, yes - well, yes... “There is no time”, “there is no artist”, “there is no programmer”, etc.
I have already heard this somewhere. It seems, from Matveev... In a word - we played in vigorous creative activity, and waking up...

Good luck! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.

well, brat. You should keep quiet, please - Sergey with his revival has surpassed everyone and everything in terms of quality and information content. And I haven’t heard anything from you except
flame, please start respecting people.

Regards,
Random
--
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e-mail: ran...@cybermail.net

Concern Chaos WWW HQ: http://www.cybermail.net/~random/

VP> listen, why is it bad to provide people with new games for free? what are you doing? games
VP> are not crap, but good!
They are good, but: (a) I don’t think that these games are new; (b) -
anyone who has access to the Internet can “supply” themselves with them; (c) in
games on the Spectrum now, IMHO, few people play anymore, since there are all sorts of Dandy
and Sony Play Station, now mostly in price are system programs that
do not allow the Spectrum to drown in the sea of IBM and Amig, and make it a universal
home computer.
Well, and finally, the name “creative group Step” now sounds somehow weird. Everyone else who is involved in restoring usually calls themselves
a “hacker group”, and in extreme cases, “author-hacker group”.
VP> and what do hackers have to do with it?
So, restoring programs is already “author’s work”? Yes, live and learn. And just about a year and a half ago, the whole step considered it completely differently...
VP> something I didn’t see
VP> Sergei breaking some thread of the provider or something else. What are you talking about?
Duh... So you also believe in SPF hacker tales. And you don’t know all the meanings of the word
“hacker”...

What are some reasons for this? Is it bad that Revival EXISTS.

> Good luck! Evgeny.

With best wishes, Ars^FTL
mailto:ars...@usa.net
http://i-connect.ru/~fatality/news/

* this world nothing will save...

Regards,
Random
--
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Concern Chaos WWW HQ: http://www.cybermail.net/~random/

EM> Seriously?

Are you hinting at Oberon? ;)) The most periodical magazine, IMHO... =))

EM> However, you used the past tense quite appropriately...

You know better ;))

EM> And also, don’t forget - I know very well the reasons for the appearance of Revival...

;)))) Well, what do you want to say by this? Me too, oddly enough. And, in my opinion,
anyone who saw RVL1.

VP>> And from you I haven’t heard anything at all except flames, please start
VP>> respecting people.
EM> How could you “hear” something from me? :))) We're not talking on the phone
EM>...

We need to think more broadly...

EM> And I don't have to list my works to you, follow the echo carefully
EM> - you'll understand what I'm doing and what I'm doing on the spectrum...

Works... ;) Some work is not visible. Tell me what you've done over the last 4 months...

EM> Yes, and into this echo I'm not throwing parts of some third-rate
EM> "humorous" story,

I would throw my articles from Oberon... E8-DDD Only closer to the first of April, please.
So that people don't take it seriously.

EM> and not I start an echo of disputes on the topic of spelling,

There is something to be proud of, right?

EM> and in absentia I do not insult the person who once refused somewhere
EM> to publish this story... And I do not use it for any reason (and without
EM>reason) phrases like “SERGEY NOVIKOV R.I.P.”

Your happiness `;)))

EM> or “I got sick with a new disease - Novikovia”

;)))))) Doesn’t sound... Milunia is better. U? All agree? You can also construct interesting verbs. For example, “Hey, don’t be cute!” or “Why are you so kind,
don’t spoil your appetite...”

EM> or “join my team, otherwise you’ll get infected with Novikovia”...

;)))))))) Laughter and that’s all...

PS: And the tweet is on you... I was just interested in the letter - I decided take a look.

EM> “humorous” story, and I don’t start an echo of debate on the topic
EM> spelling,...
Well, you’re vindictive... :)

Bye, Vladimir :)

... Now the computer’s power can be turned off...

VP> well, of course, let’s all walk around stupid and uneducated. Should we and
VP> close schools in case of such disputes? in vain, it's completely in vain. I was just
VP> leading
VP> a discussion on this topic, and not insulting everyone and everything.

No, it’s better to turn ZX.SPECTRUM into RU.GRAMATIC_ERRORS? :-)))))))

Sincerely, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

Mon 01 Dec 1997 10:11, Evgeny Milun wrote to Sergei Novikov:

EM> Oopsssssss.... From a newspaper/magazine/game-makers Step has turned into
EM> an unremarkable "hacker-release" group.
EM> Yes... Fate-fate... But they were going to sweep out the hackers with a filthy broom
EM>...

Dear Zhenya! The team of the creative group Step is very grateful to you for the fact that you still closely monitor the work of our team. Apparently, in you we have found a true admirer of our work. We
remember your first letters to our magazine, your first reviews about our work - so touching and pleasant. We gratefully accept the opinion of our true fan, so to speak, a fan of the Step group.
Thank you so much for the attention you pay to us. However, as it sometimes happens, we have to correct you, since your letter
contains some inaccuracies, which we would like to report in this letter.
As you understand, Zhenya, Sergei Novikov, who produces disc
versions of Western games, does this for his own pleasure. This work gives him joy and satisfaction. It should be clear to you, Zhenya, that the creative team of our group cannot prohibithim to do what he likes. The release of new “releases” has very little to do with group creativity. This is Sergei's PERSONAL matter. And don’t let it bother you that Sergey signs under the brand name of the Step group - no one forbids him from doing this, after all, we did the last issues of SPF together.
We hope that now you will not associate Sergey’s hobby with the work of the team of the Step group, which in essence is no longer exists.

Thursday December 04 1997 16:07, Vsevolod Potapov ─── All:

[.....]

>> (b) -
>> anyone who has access to the Internet can “supply” themselves with them;

VP> this is so, but what about comrades without the Internet and/or Fido and/or generally
VP> not connected?
Are you sure that they are still interested in games for the Spectrum? In addition, those who do not have Fido/Internet have only one way to get these releases - buy
them on the market... So, they are not “free”. Nowadays, system programs are mainly in price,
>> which prevent the Spectrum from drowning in the sea of IBM and Amiga, and make it
>> a universal home computer

VP> which IMHO is correct. because I mainly play for nostalgia, and
VP> games on the spec are better (let’s say smarter) than games on other platforms.
Well, that’s you. :)) I have a Scorpio at home, and I don’t need any other
computer yet.
VP> and
VP> there’s no need to buy them - they’re freeware now. so it’s hard to say that Dandy
VP> (which is not here) or PlayStation (which has a steering wheel, yes, but it’s stupid, like
VP> in principle and H64).
But this is already yours"IMHO", and somewhat incorrectly... Since
"freeware" is not equivalent to "no need to buy".
VP> And our releases for me generally do not carry more loads than the code
VP> - I generally only play the originals.
In general... :)))

>> Well, and finally, the name "creative group Step", now It sounds kind of weird. Everyone else who is involved in restoring usually calls themselves

AA> People change, is that bad?
No, but when people first call on all “hackers to put pressure”, they attack
me when I tell them that not all hackers are bad, etc. etc., and then
become hackers themselves, and abandon that “creative activity” that they were so proud of...

Thursday December 04 1997 18:24, Sergei Novikov ─── Evgeny Milun:

SN> Hiya lamer!
Hiya to you too, who likes to put me on tweet... No way you have a tweet-
dam broken again?

[.....]

EM>> (c) games on the Spectrum now, IMHO, few people play anymore, since
EM>> there are all sorts of Dandy and Sony Play Station, now mostly in price
EM>> system programs that prevent the Spectrum from drowning in the sea of IBM and
EM>> Amiga, and make it a universal home computer.

SN> One can only be surprised at the “Jedi” who are capable of going to any
SN> extreme for the sake of argument. Now he wants to say that almost no one
SN> needs Spectrum games and there is no point in making/releasing them (²VM: ... ;) Nu-nu.
No, one can only be surprised at the Stepovites who always try
to hide behind someone’s back... If you still haven’t understood how UFO
is different from those games that you “release”, then...

EM>> Well, and finally, the name “creative group Step” now somehow sounds weird. Everyone else who is involved in restoring usually calls
EM>> themselves a “hacker group”, and in extreme cases “author-hacker group”.

SN> Senile, it shows. Now I didn’t like the name.
Nope... I just remembered your imagecool authors who hate the very word "hacker". (I’m talking about SPF...) And about how you attacked me a year ago.

EM> Well, and finally, the name “creative group Step” now somehow
EM> sounds weird. Everyone else who is involved in restoring usually calls
EM> themselves a “hacker group”, or in extreme cases “author-hacker group”.

Regards,
Random
--
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e-mail: ran...@cybermail.net

Concern Chaos WWW HQ: http://www.cybermail.net/~random/

SN> are not needed and there is no point in making/releasing them (²VM: ... ;) Nu-nu.

IMHO, system programs are just not worth the price. Well, first of all, it’s really
difficult to make money on them. Secondly (and this is the main thing), a “crisis of overproduction” has clearly emerged. Just as in the old days everyone was a hacker and wrote cool megadems, so now any self-respecting group considers it a duty to release a system program.
We have: almost two dozen assemblers, two dozen music editors, two dozen text editors. A new wave is coming - graphic editors (about
the "first sign" see ZXF-7).

What exactly is keeping Spectrum from drowning is difficult to say (IMHO, the insufficient
living standard of most of the population in the country and the presence of a large number of
fans), but system programs clearly do not play the first fiddle here...

With warm greetings, Glory!

YM> Dear Zhenya!

YM> in you we have found a true admirer of our work.

Why only Zhenya? There are a lot of your fans here :)

YM> attitude. This is Sergei's PERSONAL matter. And don’t let it bother you that Sergey
YM> signs under the brand of the Step group - no one forbids him from doing this, in
YM> after all, we did the last issues of SPF together.

This is a little confusing :( Somehow it doesn’t fit with the usual image of the group (even though
it has moved away from Spectrum affairs).

With warm regards, Glory!

EM>> in a word - we played in a vibrant creative activity, and waking up...

YM> Well, why do this, Zhenya? Your words about playing “busy creative
YM> activity” will remain just words, since behind the Step -
YM> group is a whole milestone in the Russian life of the ZX-Spectrum computer, and behind your words,
YM> Zhenya, only meaningless sarcasm, caused, as we understand,
YM> solely by the pain for the collapse of one of the most famous Russian groups.
No... not for Step, but for the abandoned magazine Spectrofon, for the "ideological legacy" this magazine left behind - "the rest of the computer world is not our decree, we ourselves know everything..."
YM> But, as the French say, "ce la vie." Such is life - everything flows, everything
YM> changes... A new time comes and everything has to start over...
No, it’s better not to start “from the beginning”. First, let Spectrum get out of the hole where he ended up. Let the Spectrum software market become a normal software market, and not what some IFC wanted it to be. People are just
moving away from the phrase of one mmmmm... person... regarding copyright -
"it's enough to put the 'copyright' icon"...

YM> PS: It’s strange, Zhenya, that you didn’t accuse Sir Clive Sinclair of the same thing,
YM> who sold hisa wonderful invention to Amstrad and began developing
YM> electric cars.
As far as I know, Sir Clive Sinclair, at one time, did not accuse the same
Amstrad of lameness... And he did not pretend to be all-knowing, and especially did not
stand up in poses when he was told that on some issue he is wrong.
YM> Apparently, you don’t love him as much as you love us. Thank you
YM> for the great love from the entire team of the "Step" group!
Yes, you're welcome... Come again... You're always welcome.

YM>> in the end, we did the last issues of SPF together.
VM> This is a little confusing :( Somehow it doesn’t fit with the usual image of the group
VM> (even though it has moved away from Spectrum affairs).

This can be easily corrected... Sergey can write about his affiliation with Step, and when
the release of a new release in the intro simply indicate “Sergey Novikov presents.”
Wouldn’t it be embarrassing? Or what?

VM> IMHO, system programs are just not worth the price. Well, first of all,
VM> it’s really difficult to make money on them.
I don’t know, I haven’t tried. :))) All my programs are non-commercial.
VM> Secondly (and this is the main thing), clearly
VM> there has been a “crisis of overproduction”. Just as in the old days everyone was
VM> hackers and wrote cool megadems, so now any self-respecting
VM> group considers it their duty to release a system program.
Well, you can still argue with that... IMHO, we are seeing just the opposite -
a decline in the wave of “game-making”. Just before, a group was considered respected if it released at least one game. Remember Matveyev’s words - “Why haven’t you made a game of class ZH yet?” This is one.
Two - I don’t know about others, but all my friends who have only played on the Spectrum have long had either a Pentium or some kind of Sega at home.
They don’t even remember about the Spectrum at all. IMHO, all this is an important
indicator...
Three - that's what you're hinting at, huh? :))) We have always been focused
first of all on system programs...
VM> We have: almost two dozen assemblers,
That's good. Since, IMHO, only four or five of them are suitable for normal work. Competition, you understand. :)
VM> two dozen music editors,
What I’m not interested in,I'm not interested in that. :))
VM> two dozen text editors.
What are these? Apart from four or five names, nothing comes to my mind.
Moreover, these “four or five” are quite different from each other, each has its own advantages and disadvantages compared to the others. As they say, “for
any VKS and color.”
VM> A new wave is coming - graphic editors (about the “first sign”, see
VM> ZXF-7).

VM> What exactly prevents Spectrum from drowning is difficult to say (IMHO,
VM> the insufficient standard of living of most of the population in the country and the presence
VM> of a large number of fans), but the system programs are clearly here They don’t play the first
VM> violin...
But not the last. Those who only wanted to play have long ago purchased more “playable” computers...

/mega-skip/

EM> Matveev unsubscribed, but Novikov stayed and continued his work.
EM> He shut up only after my promise to beat him in the face if he didn’t
EM> stop... Now, it seems, he’s started again...

Never mind, you’ll deal with him on FanTop :)

With a warm smile Hello, Slava!

YM>> Sinclair, who sold his wonderful invention to Amstrad and
YM>> started developing
YM>> electric cars.
EM> As far as I know, Sir Clive Sinclair, in his time, did not accuse the same Amstrad of lameness... And he did not pretend to be all-knowing, and even less did not stand up when he was told that in some matter he was not right.

How much you know, however. Who did Clive accuse of lameness, and who did not? I'm stunned...%-)) Well, okay, if you found out that Clive Sinclair still accused Amstrad of being "lame", would you write him an angry letter? Something like this:

"Hello Clive Sinclair! I, Evgeniy Milun, a professional programmer of the sixth
class, I hasten to inform you that you are wrong in your statements about Amstrad.
In the 27th lecture of the course "Informatics and Computer Science" I wrote that
Amstrad - rulez... You recently declared that you are a Saxon. You have too high an opinion of yourself. Don’t think that billions of Sinclairists throughout the Universe think so. I’ll give you a semantic analysis of your article about Amstrad in the London Times, where you accused me of lameness. Look carefully. I can read between the lines, through the paper. phosphor and light filters. So you are wrong, right.and
know. I’ll write about this in Oberon magazine. A copy of the magazine with my article
will be sent to you by parcel post. Which would be better for you - on a cassette or on a disk? do you mind?

EM> Well, the topic of the first issue is “Anti M.M.A.”

Why so strict? Not the whole issue, but one article. But the newspaper specifically thought about publishing my response to M.M.A’s attack on some online site.
After that, M.M.A admitted some of his mistakes, we “came to a consensus” ;) and
the conflict was settled. Well, and, besides, I wanted to show Newka how much information
can be collected from Fido, even with much less human resources.

EM> And all this was a logical continuation of the dispute “Grigoriev vs Samara”,

Nothing of the kind. The dispute could rather be called “Moscow and others vs Milun”, and
the article in RVL1 related specifically to M.M.A and expressed primarily my opinion.

EM> because this gentleman (Grigoriev) believed that he was the navel of the world and knew everything
EM>, and could judge everything.

;))

EM> And besides, he is very, very offended

He? Offended? ;))) Don't be ridiculous! He spat on you from a high bell tower from the very beginning. =)

EM> when I caught him in a lie,

How many new things can you learn from such chronicles 8))

EM> No, but when people first call on all “hackers to put pressure”,

²VM: They come, right? ;)

EM> they come at me when I tell them that not all hackers are bad,

That's you, of course, to yourself ;))

EM> etc. etc., and then they themselves become hackers,

Let's decide once and for all, who do you call “hackers”? Just
shorter, please, not on 2 pages...

EM> and they abandon that “creative activity” that they were so proud of...

Do we miss Spectrophone? =) Okay, you don’t have to answer.

EM>> will stop... Now, it seems, he’s started again...

VM> Never mind, you’ll deal with him on FanTop :)

Yeah. Let him come. We're waiting, sir. Organizers 12 people 8)

YM> Who told you? Signature under the release?
YM> 2SN: Change the sign, it irritates Zhenya...

So many things irritate him. You can’t change the whole world... Of course, we’ll take into account your wishes, sir;) ²EM: “...But you can change yourself!” (c) advertising, remember?

EM> :)))))))))))
EM> Made:
EM> 1) A new version of the Zx-WinWord editor.
EM> 2) Almost completed the first version terminals for the Kondratiev scheme.
EM> 3) I have already practically organized a Spectrum FTN network in Samara. (It remains
EM> to resolve only a few small technical issues. And in the next
EM> month they will be resolved).
EM> 4) New issue of Oberon.

For me, a magazine or newspaper is valuable primarily for its texts. And your normal ones don't seem to be there. I’m not sure about the abnormal ones.

EM> (Oh yes, I’ll have to make an announcement one of
EM> these days.)

Well, it’s possible that I haven’t seen anything of this or, most likely, that
points 1-3 don’t interest me (point 4 interests me. If only because I
care about the APHORISMS section in RVL. =)

EM> Little ? And where to go, you yourself said “for
EM> the last 4 months.” :) And now it's your turn. We just play according to
~~~~~~~~~~~~
EM> your rules from a year ago - only what you did
EM> “from and to” counts.

Well then, did you also do Oberon yourself “from to to”? And point 3 too... And I'm not going to make excuses
to you - and don't flatter yourself ;)

EM> ... Step by Step SN going to the LamerLand

That's it. Remind him aboutlack of knowledge of English on his part -
will be even more offended. But it’s disgusting to look at mistakes. You'll have to humble yourself (like RND).

EM> + Origin: Sergei Novikov (aka Spirit) R.I.P. forever (FidoNet
EM> 2:5057/18.73)

If you think you'll make me angry with this, you're wrong ;)) Terribly funny.

EM>> activities of the “creative group Step”.

YM> Who told you? Signature under the release?
YM> 2SN: Change the sign, it irritates Zhenya...

The sign, unfortunately, irritates not only Mr. Milun. It is necessary to clearly
divide the work of the group and the _work_ of some individual people who, by and large, really spoil the brand of the company.

YM> We must start with what is considered a “dissolution”... The latest product
YM> of Stepa’s group creativity is SPF23... That's it... Next - without stopping...

This is where we need to stop! STEP finished its work
with the 23rd Spectrophone and that's all :(

YM>>> because behind the Step group there is a whole milestone in Russian life
YM>>> the computer "ZX-Spectrum"

And if this brand is used by others, then soon STEP
will be written in one line with Max Iwamoto and others.

[skipped]

Hasta la vista.
Tim Kelly.

YM> This is easy to fix... Sergey can write about his affiliation with Step, and
YM> when releasing a new release in the intro, simply indicate “Sergey Novikov
YM> represents.” Wouldn't it be so confusing? Or what? Honestly speaking, I don't give a damn
YM> :)
It's obvious that you don't give a damn. :))) As I noticed, the life of the Spectrum
has long been “on the wall”. ;)))
Tokma, please explain, with what joy Sergei will write
about his affiliation with Step, but: (a) no one except him among the Step members does
anything on the spectrum; (b) and he is not allowed to sign the word “Step” on his programs? Or do you think Paul McCartney still has the right to sign his albums with the Beatles brand? Or is this again the good old rule of the Spectrumists - “we are our own heads”?
Maybe I’m getting to the bottom of this (then, sorry in advance), but... but... the image that you created for yourself is too different from the one that you have now...

EM>> sounds scary. All the others who are involved in restoring usually call themselves a “hacker group”, and in extreme cases “author-hacker group”.

AH> Such groups are called release...
Maybe, maybe... I don’t know what they are “usually” called on the “Spectrum-scene”, but I even know what they’re called, what they do. ;)))

It wouldn’t be so embarrassing. But, since you don’t care... :)

Warm greetings, Slava!

YM> I strongly recommend taking off your glasses and putting them in two pockets, anyway they
YM> show you in the wrong spectrum. However, it’s the master’s business...
:))) That’s it, that’s it... I’m not afraid to repeat myself - “don’t try to prove to me that I don’t have eyes.” I see what’s going on on the Spectrum... In particular, I see a confusion of concepts (this is when everyone comes up with their own interpretations of some words, then you are hopelessly trying to figure out how you would like to interpret the word “lamer”; then, literally this week, Grigoriev and Novikov are no less unsuccessfully trying to come up with their own interpretation phrases
“computer piracy”, and it doesn’t suit them, poor fellows, that in the legislation
everything has been “explained” for a long time; then here is someone else, who has not understood the meaning
of the term “hacker”, is trying to come up with his own...). And it’s not all about copyright that I see - “neglect” is not the right word. “Lamer hypocrisy” is more
correct - people not only do not know the law, but even in an echo they say that they didn’t care about it, but they very fiercely defend their “copyright”. Well,
I’m generally silent about IFC...

YM> Some people like
YM> pink, some black... And calling yourself “the rest of the computer
YM> world” you apparently were flying in the clouds again as a Great Jedi... Wellwell, it happens.
:))))) I already told you once, for example, about the true state of affairs
with the copyright law? Spoke. If you don’t believe me, go to some legal consultation... In a word, you’ve been hovering in the clouds for a long time and persistently. :))) And I’m just on mother earth...

Well, I saw a couple. From newspapers these are: Nicron, Zx-News ?, Proton, Modern,
Lprint +, RIP ;), Move, Body, Energy, Optron, Spite, Echo,
Impulse, X-Ray, etc. RVL is clearly beyond competition here...

There are also enough magazines. But the situation with them on the market is abnormal.
(Take any survey - the first two places are always occupied. ;)

> Good luck! Evgeny.

With best wishes, Ars^FTL.
mailto:ars...@usa.net

* nothing can save this world...

> The sign, unfortunately, annoys not only Mr. Milun. It is necessary to clearly
separate the work of the group and the _work_ of some individual people who, by and large, really spoil the brand of the company.

EM> If you still don’t understand how UFO differs from those games that
EM> you “release”, then...
I would like to put an end to the issue of releases:

┌───────────────────────────────
│ “If games are released, it means someone needs it” │
└─────────────────────────────── ────────────────────────────┘

And In general, Zhenya is enough to dig into STEP for any convenient or inconvenient occasion, and if you have the urge, then do it with soap, I think many will support me.
And in general, in all your altercations with the Stepovites, I don’t understand two things:

1. _what_do_you_need from_them_
2. _when_it_all_ends_

They are doing their job, you do yours, and there is no need to create difficulties for each other and
all the subscribers of this echo conference, this does not reassure you at all.

>
>VP>> well, brat. You should keep quiet, please - Sergey with his
>AA> revival
>VP>> surpassed everyone and everything in terms of quality and information content.
>AA> I join the words of VP
> What other electronic publications have you seen?
>
>Well, I’ve seen a couple. From newspapers these are: Nicron, Zx-News ?, Proton, Modern,
>Lprint +, RIP ;), Move, Body, Energy, Optron, Spite, Echo,
>Impulse, X-Ray, etc. RVL is clearly unrivaled here...

Regards,
Random
--
Lord of Chaos.
e-mail: ran...@cybermail.net

Concern Chaos WWW HQ: http://www.cybermail.net/~random/

Friday December 12 1997 03:33, Arseniy Astapenko wrote to All:

AA> There are also enough magazines. But the situation with them on the market is abnormal.
AA> (Take any survey - the first two places are always occupied. ;)

Not for long... Scenergy #0 will be released soon, let's see how the first place position changes =)

cYa, aRTY/dR! · · ··· Email: Ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · ···

YM>> the drum :)
VM> It wouldn’t be embarrassing.

Now it will be so ;)

VM> But, since you don’t care... :)

But since you don’t care ;)

---<<<-------------------------------------------------------- Yuri.

EM> Nope, she doesn’t annoy me, she actually makes me laugh - hacker
EM> work under the guise of an anti-hacker group. Worthy of HF.

No, you’re a lame and don’t want to admit it! If a game is found on the Internet, then
converted from a snapshot, attached to it with an intro and a loader, then this, in his
opinion, is called hacking. In this case, is correcting a crookedly written BASIC bootloader also hacking? First think about what you are talking about. And
changing a couple of bytes in the exe file of a pisish game, responsible for the number of lives,
on the advice of a friend - too? In this case, in our country there are at least 99% of hackers.

EM> ■ Step by Step they are going to the LamerLand...

I say lamer. Even one sentence cannot be translated correctly into English on the second try. A shame and nothing more!

EM> Tokma, please explain, with what such joy will Sergey
EM> write about his affiliation with Step

And this should not worry you.

EM> (a) no one except him from the Stepov community does anything else on
EM> the Spectrum;

By the way, another sign lameness - you constantly assert what you don’t
know.

EM> (b) and he’s not allowed to sign the word
EM> “Step” on his programs? Or do you think Paul McCartney still has the right
EM> to sign his albums with the Beatles brand?

Why show your stupidity in public. Better keep quiet - you'll pass for smart.
The Beatles fell apart a long time ago.
~~~~~~~~~~~

YM>> they show you in the wrong spectrum. However, it’s the master’s business...

EM> :))) That’s it, that’s it... I’m not afraid to repeat myself - “don’t try to prove to me
EM> that I don’t have eyes.” I see what’s going on on the spectrum... In particular, and
EM> I see a confusion of concepts (this is when everyone comes up with their own interpretations of some
EM> words, then you are hopelessly trying to figure out how you
EM> would like to interpret the word “lamer”; then, literally this week
EM> Grigoriev and Novikov are trying no less unsuccessfully come up with your own interpretation
EM> of the phrase “computer piracy”

For some reason, we didn’t see any objections to our interpretations... So, “all the way, sir”
(c) A-ah-ah, you weren’t convinced? So... is anyone talking to you about these topics?
Let me remind you, just in case, that the interpretation of the Law and the quotation from it are not the same thing
well.

EM> and it doesn’t make sense to them, poor fellows, that everything in the legislation has long been
EM> “interpreted”;

Please, the name of the document in the legislation where the word
“computer piracy” is “interpreted”. If you mean “copyright violation”,
then my interpretations do not contradict existing documents.

EM> then here’s another someone who still doesn’t understand the meaning of the term “hacker”
EM> trying to come up with his own...). And I don’t see everything about copyright -
EM> “neglect”, that’s not the right word. The “lamer hypocrisy” is more
EM> correct - people not only don’t know the law, but even in an echo they say
EM> that they didn’t want to give a damn about it, but they very fiercely defend
EM> their “copyright”. Well, I’m generally silent about IFC...

YM>> Some people like pink, some black... And calling yourself “everyone
YM>> the rest of the computer world” you apparently again flew as a Great Jedi in
YM>> the clouds... Well, it happens.

EM> :))))) I already told you once for example, about the true situation
EM> of things with copyright law? Spoke. If you don’t believe me, go to
EM> some legal consultation... In a word, you’ve been soaring in the clouds for a long time and persistently. :))) And I’m just on mother earth...

[missing...]

EM> By the way (a very subtle hint :))), and all your Pisish software is
EM> licensed?

Can you prove the opposite? Or maybe you are the author or legal copyright holder of the software installed by Yuri? No? Then don't ask idiotic questions, trying
to find out what doesn't concern you. Rummaging through the contents of someone else's screw is the same as rummaging through someone else's furniture. Obtaining a search warrant requires extensive
authority and compellingоснования.

Wed 10 Dec 1997 14:22, Evgeny Milun wrote to Yury Matveyev:

EM> Does Paul McCartney still have the right to sign his albums with the Beatles stamp
EM>? Or is it the good old rule of the spektrumists that applies again - “we are our own heads”? Maybe, of course, I’m getting to the bottom of it (then, sorry in advance),
EM> but... but... the image that you created for yourself
EM> is too different from each other and the one that is now...

_Official_ software of the creative group "Step" (Russia, Moscow):

1. The electronic magazine "Spectrofon" (0-23) was published from December
1993 (demo version number zero) to July 1997 (issue 23).
2. Star Heritage Demo (January 1995).
3. Star Heritage - 1. Black Cobra (August 1995).
4. Special Forces (failed) (1996).
5. Stellar Legacy - 2. On the Other Side of the Universe (did not work out) (1995-1996).

You can include it in the FAQ. I won’t explain anything else.

The releases of Western games and the newspaper are the personal initiative of Sergei Novikov, one of
the authors of articles in the last four issues of the electronic magazine Spectrofon.

---<<<-------------------------------------------------------- Yuri.

AH> Not for long... Scenergy #0 will be released soon, let's see how the first place item
AH> changes =)

Ha, Expert Spectrum will also be released soon (if I haven't mixed up the name :) by
X-Trade - let's see who wins! ;)

Warm greetings, Slava!

YM>> they show you in the wrong spectrum. However, it’s the master’s business...
EM> :))) The fact is...

How to explain to a blind person what kind of world is spread out around?

EM> I’m not afraid to repeat myself - “don’t try to prove to me
EM> that I don’t have eyes.”

Why prove what is obvious. The axiom does not require a document.

EM> I see what’s going on on the spectrum... In
EM> in particular, I see a confusion of concepts (this is when everyone comes up with their own
EM> interpretations of some words, then here you are hopelessly trying to figure out
EM> how you would like to interpret the word “lamer”;

Least of all me is this worried.

EM> the phrase “computer piracy”, and it doesn’t suit them, poor fellows, that in
EM> everything has been “interpreted” for a long time;

And you hit them with the law, in the face... And put your finger in the right place?

EM> then here’s someone else, and
EM> not. Having understood the meaning of the term “hacker”, he is trying to come up with his own...).

See. above.

EM> And I don’t see everything about copyright - “neglect” is not the
EM> word. “Lamer hypocrisy” is more correct - people not only don
EM> know the law, but even in an echo they say that they wanted to spit on it, but
EM> they very fiercely defend their
EM> "copyright". Well, I’m generally silent about IFC...

And rightly so. Be silent.

EM> :))))) I already told you once, for example, about the true situation
EM> of things with the copyright law? Spoke. If you don’t believe me, go to
EM> some legal consultation... In a word, you’ve been soaring in the clouds for a long time and persistently. :))) And I’m just on Mother Earth...

No, you’re on Dune. Greetings to you all from Earth, Jedi! How is the connection?...
How is the connection, I say, to hit you at the root!? Answer...

Sunday December 14, 1997 23:57, Yury Matveyev wrote to Evgeny Milun:

YM> Releases of Western games and the newspaper are the personal initiative of Sergei Novikov, one of the
YM> authors of articles in the last four issues of the electronic magazine
YM> Spectrophone.

My newspaper and releases too. Solo projects, so to speak ;)

YM> ---<<<------------------------------------------------------ Yuri.

Sincerely, Dmitry (OLDMAN).
ZXNet: 095/100.1
old...@i-connect.ru

AH>> first place item =)

VM> Ha, Expert Spectrum will also be released soon (if I haven’t mixed up the name
VM> :) by X-Trade - let’s see who wins! ;)

This is funny. Scenergy make 5 cool bands (²Arty: ;))

Sat December 13 1997 18:27, Sergei Novikov wrote to Evgeny Milun:

SH> No, you are lame and don’t want to admit it! If a game is found on the Internet,
SH> then converted from a snapshot, an intro and a loader are attached to it, then
SH> this, in his opinion, is called hacking. In this case, is correcting
SH> a crookedly written BASIC loader also hacking? First think about
SH> what you are talking about. And changing a couple of bytes in the exe file of the pisish game, responsible
SH> for the number of lives, on the advice of a friend - too? In this case, in our country there are at least 99% of hackers.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^

SH> I I say lame. Even one sentence cannot be translated correctly into English on the second try. A shame and nothing more! ^

Maybe he learned French? ^
^
Young man, do you know that changing even the 1st byte in someone else's program
is a punishable crime!!! And all of us who remake other people's programs are criminals!!! Read the laws of OUR country!!! We also
signed up for this!!!
And what aboutAll the rich people don't care about specs, but that doesn't mean you're not breaking the law! That's right, you quietly change the program of some company and start to persecute everyone, and when this company takes you by the ass and rubs its nose into the law and says that not knowing does not exempt you from responsibility! Then you will sing
something else.
Who is the hacker?
There are debates on this topic all over the world and they have come to this more or less understandable
situation.
A hacker is a high-class programmer, a fan of his craft, who does not break laws!!!
A cracker is a security breaker, etc. the one who breaks the laws!!!
Freker is a communications specialist (here I may be somewhat mistaken since the information is somewhat incomplete and contradictory) and in one place I read that it was originally
subscribers of the magazine "Frek" or something like that.

And no matter how crookedly it was written, it was written by the author!!! And he can sue you
simply for the fact that you “corrected” a couple of bytes!!! Unfortunately, I only have at hand the old code, but even in it, for such acts, up to two years are prescribed, and in the modern one it seems even harsher, and there is a separate article dedicated to computer programs!!!
So, young man, erase all your names from everywhere, otherwise you risk
getting the whole reel!!!
What if the mess ends and we live according to the laws?

Shor Kan.

Wednesday December 10 1997 13:35, Sergei Novikov ─── Evgeny Milun:

>>>> Well, and finally, the name “creative group Step” now sounds somehow weird
>>>>. Everyone else who is involved in restoring usually calls themselves
>>>> “hacker group”, and in extreme cases “author-hacker group”.
VP>>> creative means creating. That's exactly what he's doing :)
EM>> Yes? I'm telling you, a year and a half ago they had a diametrically opposite
EM>> positive opinion...
SN> Are we trying to mislead Random? Who and when opposed the release of
SN> news from the Internet? You seem to be confusing the concepts of “breaking defenses” and “releasing
SN> games”.
No, I just don’t confuse the concepts of “hacking” and “authorship”. And I don't advise you to confuse them.

VP>>> hehe hehehe. that is, I don’t know what a hacker is? and that means I only know about these
VP>>> comrades from the SPF... yeah. ARTY !!!!
EM>> Arty ?????????? Nu-nu... Oh yes, I forgot to introduce myself - engineer-
EM>> second category programmer Evgeniy Milun, at your service, sir. ;))))
SN> Did you mean to say “second-class”?
:))))))) Compared to Mednogov, it’s quite possible, but compared
to you - ... uuuuu... you’re somewhere down there... YouI couldn’t even make a cover for my own newspaper. Yes, and a utility...

EM>> That's what I mean, I myself (from work) know quite well who hackers are... :))
SN> Well, yes, we hack pipelines? Do we make holes in oil pipelines? Apparently, soon
SN> the country will face an energy crisis (c)
:)))))) Are we all lame? Nu-nu. Go to the directorate of AK Transneft and personally see Chernyaev and say that OAO PMN is “making holes in the pipe.” :)))
And if your, still far from erudite brain, is unable to understand where
and why a large enterprise needs to change something in some
program...

[.....]

EM>> And all this was a logical continuation of the dispute “Grigoriev vs Samara",
SN> Nothing like that. The dispute could rather be called “Moscow and others vs Milun”
:)))))))) You can tell fairy tales to your grandmother... or to your brother. Or should I post your netmail here? According to the policy, I have the right to this.
SN> and
SN> the article in RVL1 related specifically to M.M.A and expressed primarily my
SN> opinion.

SN> He? Offended? ;))) Don't be ridiculous! He spat on you from a high bell tower from
SN> from the very beginning. =)
:))))) That’s why you threw hysterics here in the echo...

EM>> when I caught him in a lie,
SN> How many new things will you learn from such chronicles 8))
By the way, I still consider hima liar...

SN> Ahh! That's what you're talking about. Well, this is what the program writes: R.I.P. (-S:
:)))))))) Childhood games again? "This is what the program writes." Ugh...
SN> ²All: I don’t understand how he can read RVL ;))
Just like you Oberon - with his eyes. :))

>>>> So, restoring programs is already “the author’s work”? Yes, live forever, live forever
SN> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SN> By the way, where was this said? Uh?
And the phrase “the creative group Step represents” doesn’t count? Like that
"I, the famous writer Vasya Pupkin, present a new _plagiarized_ work
of my student <...>".

>>>> study. And just a year and a half ago, the whole steppe considered it completely
>>>> differently...
AA>>> People change, is that bad?
EM>> No, but when people first call on all the “hackers to put pressure”,
SN> ²VM: They’re coming, right? ;)
:)))))))))) Why are you all hiding behind Slava? For some reason you remind me of one
hero from “Mowgli”...

EM>>, etc. etc., and then they themselves become hackers,
SN> Let's decide once and for all, who do you call “hackers”? Just
SN> shorter, pls, not on 2 pages...
:)))))))))))))) And with some kind of joy should I give you a shout out here? Maybe you can also give me the definition of a computer? Here you scream that you know everything, so you should know the standard definition of
standard computer terms.

EM>>> Matveev unsubscribed, but Novikov stayed and continued his work.
EM>>> He shut up only after my promise to beat him in the face, if not
EM>>> will stop... Now, it seems, he's started again...
VM>> Never mind, you'll deal with him on FanTop :)
SN> Yeah. Let him come. We're waiting, sir. Organizers 12 people 8)
:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Decided to scare? Nu-nu...
By the way, what do they have to do with it - “organizers 12 people”? Like
"my brethren and I hit the mark for you"?

SN> Well, it’s possible that I haven’t seen any of this or, most likely, that
SN> points 1-3 don’t interest me (point 4 interests me. If only because I
SN> care about the APHORISMS section in RVL. =)
Well, then you’re not interested in points 1 to 3rd, this is understandable. Lamers
creatures are such that they usually attack a person without even trying to see
what programs he is running...
Nu-nu. By the way, it will be necessary to introduce the following phrase into Oberon: “reprinting
material without the consent of the editor is prohibited.” But then you will know what the real copyright law is... Welcome, welcome. Prepare a lot of money for fines... Welcome to _real_ life... With a _real_ copyright law, and not the one you made up.

Friday December 12 1997 02:13, Andrey Mihaylow ─── Evgeny Milun:
AM> ┌───────────────────────────────── ──────────────────────────┐
AM> │ “If games are released, it means someone needs it” │
AM> └───────────────────────────────
Of course, one can still argue with this (more precisely, with who exactly needs _these_ releases), but that’s not the point, the point is that the so-called. "more released"
falls under the definition of "hacking". And it’s such an obvious fact that our “colleague”
stepovite doesn’t want to admit it...

AM> And in general, Zhenya will be enough to dig
AM> to STEP for any convenient or inconvenient occasion, and if you have the urge, then do it with soap, I think many
AM> will support me.
:)))) Many, but not stepovites. They, you see, need a show for everyone to see... Al, do you think I didn’t try to talk to them in the soap?
AM> And in general, in all your altercations with the stepovites, I don’t understand two things:

AM> 1. _what_do_you_need from_them_
Nothing special. Just their admission that... uh... in one word, that their computer horizons are not as broad as they are trying to show to everyone. Otherwise, there is no way to explain their ignorance in some matters.
AM> 2. _when_all_this_end_
And thenwill end.

SN> No, you are lame and don’t want to admit it! If a game is found on the Internet,
SN> then converted from a snapshot, an intro and a loader are attached to it, then
SN> this, in his opinion, is called hacking.
:)). A good security thief finds out about this and decides to punish the guy.
He breaks into the safe, steals the money and gives it to the people. All,
hippie end. What the security guard did is no longer classified as "burglary." So?
Actually, why am I ruining myself here... People who wanted to sneeze at
legislation, at generally accepted definitions, and all the time persistently come up with
their own interpretations, will still not understand anything... Lamers, they are lamers in Africa too.

SN> In this case, and Is correcting
SN> a crookedly written BASIC bootloader also hacking?
In theory, yes. This program is not yours, and without the appropriate license
you have no right to change anything there, not a single bit. It's not me who says this, it's our legislation that says... Do you want to challenge it? Go to the Constitutional
Court...
SN> You first think about what you are talking about.
No, think about it... Read the laws, all sorts of reference books there... Ask
the people, and only thenexpress your “great knowledge”.
SN> And changing a couple of bytes in the executable file of the pisish game, responsible
SN> for the number of lives, on the advice of a friend - too?
:))))) Clinic. Not only do you not have the right to do the actions described above,
but in addition, you must have _license_ packages of all the programs that
you are currently using... Don't believe me? Well, no need, because of this, the size of the fine
will not decrease at all...
SN> In this case, in our
SN> country there are at least 99% of hackers.
:))))))) Are you hinting at yourself? How, I remember, you told me how you made a new miracle toy “Dune 2 with something”. I remember, I remember. You corrected a few more numbers there... Well, if you don’t know yet, then yes, your
actions fall under the definition of “hacking”, and are _punishable_.

SN> No, you’re lame and don’t want to admit it! If a game is found on the Internet, then converted from a snapshot, an intro and a loader are attached to it, then this, in his opinion, is called hacking. In this case
SN> and correcting a crookedly written BASIC bootloader is also hacking?
SN> First think about what you are talking about. And changing a couple of bytes in the executable
SN> of the piss game, responsible for the number of lives, on the advice of a friend -
SN> too? In this case, in our country there are at least 99% of hackers.

hacker

[originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] 1. A person
who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how
to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who
prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. 2. One who programs
enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming
rather than just theorizing about programming. 3. A person
capable of appreciating hack value. 4. A person who is good at
programming quickly. 5. An expert at a particular program, or one
who frequently does work using it or on it; as in `a Unix
hacker'. (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who
fit them congregate.) 6. An expertor enthusiast of any kind. One
might be an astronomy hacker, for example. 7. One who enjoys the
intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing
limitations. 8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to
discover sensitive information by poking around. Hence `password
hacker', `network hacker'. The correct term for this sense is
cracker.

The term `hacker' also tends to connote membership in the global
community defined by the net (see network, the and Internet
address). It also implies that the person described is seen to
subscribe to some version of the hacker ethic (see hacker ethic,
the).

It is better to be described as a hacker by others than to
describe oneself that way. Hackers consider themselves something
of an elite (a meritocracy based on ability), though one to which
new members are gladly welcome. There is thus a certain ego
satisfaction to be had in identifying yourself as a hacker (but
if you claim to be one and are not, you'll quickly be labeled
bogus).

Good Luck...

... The best way to accelerate Windows is through one.

AP> Maybe he learned French? ^

Why then write _in English_?

AP> Young man, do you know that changing even the 1st byte in someone else's
AP> program is a punishable crime!!! And all of us who
AP> remake other people's programs are criminals!!! Read the laws of OUR country!!! All Western games have long since become freeware.

Again, some kind of flame like the Rage demo... What can they do? Am I looking for
information? If their “progressive” coder doesn’t even know what the Internet is...
No, they are not our competitors!

cYa, aRTY/dR! · · ··· Email: Ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · ···

Monday December 15, 1997 12:26, ​​Max Romanoff wrote to Sergei Novikov:

MR> hacker

MR> [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] 1. A person
MR> who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how

So what? Just someone's opinion (signature where?)... Or rather, a listing of common opinions. Why in English? So, do you think it’s more believable?
;) Although Sergey, of course, is a hacker, even if he doesn’t admit it yet ;)

MR> Good Luck...

DG> STEP in its entirety is currently working on the Organizing Committee of the International
DG> Computer Art Festival "FunTop'98".
Congratulations. I hope you will provide all visitors with hotel rooms?

[.....]
DG> with empty pockets. Keep the gift from your heart. But not for you - a gift
DG> to all authors of software for the Spectrum and a warning to all violators of copyright
DG> rights. About you, I can say the following: you are a pathetic, self-confident
DG> dropout, a liar, an upstart, a militant teapot, a _lamer_, in a word.
:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I love you too I love... I will love you even more when
you (mmmmm... looking at your fiery, sensual speeches of the noble knight,
of course it’s hard, but I have to say it...) publicly apologize for your
current... mmmmm... far from tactful behavior.

DG> This is not an insult, this is a simple statement of facts.
:)).

YM> _Official_ software of the creative group "Step" (Russia, Moscow):

YM> 1. Electronic magazine "Spectrofon" (0-23) was published since December
YM> 1993 (demo version under zero number) to July 1997 (23rd issue).
YM> 2. Star Legacy Demo (January 1995).
YM> 3. Star Legacy - 1. Black Cobra (August 1995).
YM> 4. Special Forces (did not work) (1996).
YM> 5. Stellar Legacy - 2. On the Other Side of the Universe (did not work out) (1995-1996).

YM> You can include it in the FAQ. I won’t explain anything else.
YM> Releases of Western games and the newspaper are the personal initiative of Sergei Novikov, one of
YM> the authors of articles in the last four issues of the electronic magazine Spectrofon.
That’s when he will sign his “personal initiative” not on behalf of
Styop, but on his own, then we’ll include all this in his personal FAQ, in the meantime
the counter is ticking for the “FAQ of the Step group”.

Good luck! Evgeny.

YM> No, you are on Dune. Greetings to you all from Earth, Jedi! How is the connection?...
YM> How is the connection, I say, to hit you at the root!? Answer...
Well, first of all, this is Arrakis. Secondly, the connection is very good, it’s just a swing. :))))))

[.....]

YM> So I’m still talking about the crisis, Zhenya. Don't you understand? Collapse - do you know
YM> what it is? So try it on the Spectrum. And try to turn it back.
:))))))))))) “Collapse” is the collapse of _the entire_ of our Universe. For some reason I
don’t see it.

VM>> name :) by X-Trade - let's see who wins! ;)

SN> This is funny. Scenergy make 5 cool bands (²Arty: ;))

I already reacted =)

cYa, aRTY/dR! · · ··· Email: Ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · ···

EM>>> hit him in the face if he doesn’t stop... Now, it seems, he’s started again...
SN>> Who? 888)
EM> Like who? I'm talking about you.

Wow, this is the first time I've heard it 8) He promised that you would “treat _really_
in a bad way.”

EM> + Origin: Sergei Novikov R.I.P. Forever!!! (FidoNet 2:5057/18.73)

LAMER!!! LAMER!!! LAMER!!! LAMER!!! LAMER!!! LAMER!!! LAMER!!! LAMER!!! LAMER!!

I don’t remember a single sentence that Milun wrote correctly
in English!!! At least buy a dictionary. Russian-English and English-Russian. Ha
2 words. Milun and lamer.

SN>> Just make it shorter, pls, not on 2 pages...
EM> :))))))))))))))) And with some kind of joy should I give you a shout out here
EM>? Maybe you can also give me the definition of a computer? You are screaming at us that you know everything, so you should know the standard
EM> definition of standard computer terms.

As always, you avoided answering. It’s okay, we’re used to it.

SN>> that points 1-3 do not interest me (point 4 interests me. If only because
SN>> that I care about the APHORISMS section in RVL. =)
EM> Well, then you are not interested in points 1 to 3rd, this is understandable.
EM> Lamer creatures are such that they usually attack a person without even trying
EM> to see what programs he is doing...

Don’t try to justify yourself. The fact that you saw SPF and RVL will not save you.

EM> Nu-nu. By the way, it will be necessary to enter the following phrase into Oberon
EM> “reprinting material without the consent of the editor is prohibited.”

Are you kidding me? Who will reprint anything from it?..

EM> But then you will find out what the real law on copyright
EM> rights is...

...except for the APHORISMS section. But even here you will break off - reprinting
of individual phrases, and even with links to the source, is allowed.

EM> Welcome, welcome.

Ugh ;O I’ll go get some fresh air... :-/

EM> Prepare a lot of money for fines... Welcome to the _real_
EM> life... With the _real_ copyright law right, and not with the one
EM> you came up with.

EM>>>> Matveev unsubscribed, but Novikov stayed and continued his work.
EM>>>> He shut up only after my promise to punch him in the face if he didn’t
EM>>>> stop... Now, it seems, he’s started again...
VM>>> Never mind, you’ll deal with him on FanTop :)
SN>> Yeah. Let him come. We're waiting, sir. Organizers 12 people 8)

AP> And no matter how crookedly it was written, it was written by the author!!! And he can sue you
AP> simply for the fact that you “corrected” a couple of bytes!!! Unfortunately, y
AP> I only have the old code at hand, but in it for such acts
AP> up to two years are prescribed, and in the modern one it seems even steeper, and there is
AP> a separate article dedicated to computer programs!!! So young
AP> person, erase all your names from everywhere, otherwise you risk getting the whole reel on
AP>!!! What if the mess ends and we live according to the laws?

Yes NEVER! We are poor people, what can you take from us.

AP> Shor Kan.

Something familiar...

All the best. /──────────────────────\ [ Fantasy World - Rulez ]
Sincerely, │ Wanderer 'Sagacious' │ [ Getting up early - Must Die]
─────────────────── ────\──────────────────────/ [ Station 106.8 - Rulez ]
... Do what you must, what is destined to happen ...

Maybe you can throw the demo into the echo. Otherwise, not many people saw her at E'96 :(

Warm greetings, Slava!

Now you definitely reminded me of James. :))) you need to talk - as soon as he connects to the Internet, I’ll give you his address. and you yourself know that people here
English and Russian do not know :)

Regards,
Random
--
Lord of Chaos.
e-mail: ran...@cybermail.net

Concern Chaos WWW HQ: http://www.cybermail.net/~random/

YM>> do you know what it is? So try it on the Spectrum. And try to turn
YM>> back.
EM> :))))))))))) “Collapse” is the collapse of _the entire_ of our Universe. For some reason I
EM> I don’t observe it.

The worst thing is when you don’t know, and even argue.

SN> Stop slowing down. All Western games have long been classified as freeware.
Sergey, that's enough... "Freeware" only means that you have the right
to use the program without purchasing a license for it. But changing
the program without another license is a violation of copyright
inviolability, and no exceptions are provided for this.

SN> This is funny. Scenergy makes 5 cool groups (²Arty: ;))

And one person can do better than 20 cool groups :)

Warm greetings, Slava!

SN>> case and correction of a crookedly written BASIC bootloader - also
SN>> hacking? First think about what you are talking about. And changing a couple of bytes in the executable file of the pisish game, responsible for the number of lives, on the advice of an acquaintance, too? In this case, in our country, 99% of hackers are like
SN>> at least.

MR> hacker

[smth was devastated...]

Where did you find this? It follows from this that a hacker is generally any
enthusiast programmer or even just an expert in any field... Sad ;(

MR> 6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy
MR> hacker, for example.

With God's blessing, Sergei Novikov AKA Spirit/STEP

ZxNet: 095/100.99, FidoNet: 2:5020/689.1, InterNet: reviv...@chat.ru
Phone: (095) 952-46-19 [16.00-18.00]

... Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my Soul to keep.

Friday December 19, 1997 00:18, Sergei Novikov wrote to Max Romanoff:

SN> Where did you find this? It follows that a hacker is any
SN> enthusiastic programmer or even just an expert in any field... Sad
SN> ;(

Why sad? We should be proud! After all, not every programmer is an enthusiast and an
expert ;)

SN> With God's blessing, Sergei Novikov AKA Spirit/STEP

EM> :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Did your jaw drop? ;) Well, what a face you have, Volodya, what a face... (c) Zheglov...

EM> Spectrum as such does not even think about bending, it is an excellent cheap
EM> home computer. If you don’t know yet, then with its help you can
EM> work in Fido...

Thanks for the clarification. And just yesterday I came down from the mountains to get salt... It was then that you opened my eyes...

EM> Another thing is that a bunch of “talented” people scared away almost
EM> all users (don’t worry, this is not about you).

:)) “Talented” people are Microsoft? Led by BG? Ali, do you think that IFK
was driving everyone away from himself with a filthy broom?

YM>> one of the authors of articles in the last four issues of the electronic
YM>> magazine Spectrofon.
EM> That’s when he will sign his “personal initiative” not on behalf of
EM> Stepa, but on his own,

And doesn’t he write there “Sergei Novikov represents”?

EM> then we’ll include all this in his personal FAQ, but for now
EM> the counter is ticking for the “FAQ of the Step group.”

Do you know what’s written on the barn? Here... And there the firewood is stored...

---<<<------------------------------------------------------ Yuri.

>>>>>> call themselves a “hacker group”, and in extreme cases
>>>>>> “author-hacker group”.
VP>>>>> creative means creating. That’s exactly what he’s doing :)
EM>>>> Yes? I’m telling you, a year and a half ago they had a diametrically opposite
EM>>>> positive opinion...
SN>>> Are we trying to mislead Random? Who and when opposed
SN>>> the release of news from the Internet? You seem to be confusing the concepts of “breaking defenses”
SN>>> and “releasing games”.
EM>> No, I just don’t confuse the concepts of “hacking” and “authorship”. And I advise you not
EM>> to confuse them.

EM>>>>, etc. etc., and then they themselves become hackers,
SN>>> Let's decide once and for all, who do you call "hackers"?
SN>>> Just make it shorter, please, not on 2 pages...
EM>> :)))))))))))))) And with some kind of joy should I give you a break here
EM>>? Maybe you can also give me the definition of a computer? You scream at us that you know everything, so you should know the standard
EM>> definition of standard computer terms.

In neither case, you do not have a license to change _someone else's_
program. Those. this is a violation of the right of privacy.
1) The fact that you are releasing a “broken” version does not change anything - the “broken” version
is counterfeit, as well as all the versions that will be obtained from it.
2) The fact that you are releasing a Snapshot frivolous version, again gives nothing. Because You only have the right to _use_ the program, and not _to change_
it at your own discretion.

That's all about legislation. As for the definition,
read it in On-Line #1. Your friend Grigoriev described everything quite clearly there.

EM> :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Even considering that this
EM> is said by a man who, despite all his efforts, was not able
EM> to independently make a single worthwhile one on the Spectrum programs ?

Hey, hey! Be careful! Dima has done a lot for speccy and I can give
many examples when the work was done “excellently”...

cYa, aRTY/dR! · · ··· Email: Ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · ···

VM> Maybe you can throw the demo into the echo. Otherwise, not many people saw it at E'96
VM> :(

Wow! Cool idea!

cYa, aRTY/dR! · · ··· Email: Ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · · ··

15 Dec 97 02:19, Alex Petrovskii reported to Sergei Novikov about {Re: -=-}:

AP> Hacker is a high-class programmer, a fan of his craft, who does not break
AP> laws!!!

Lamer is a high-class user, a fan of competent computer work
Warm greetings, Glory!

SN>> bootloader, then this, in his opinion, is called hacking. In this case
SN>> and correcting a crookedly written BASIC bootloader is also hacking?
SN>> First think about what you are talking about. And changing a couple of bytes in the executable
SN>> of the piss game, responsible for the number of lives, on the advice of a friend -
SN>> too? In this case, in our country there are at least 99% of hackers.

and not the fact that 99% hacked programs.

[oneHALF]

MR> hacker

Once on December 17, 97 at 16:33, Evgeny Milun wrote to Dmitry Grigoryev...
...and here it’s skipped...
EM> I love you toooooooooooo much... I will love you even more,
EM> when you (mmmmm... looking at your fiery, sensitive speeches
EM> noble knight,...
^^^^ What is this? A hint?
zy I was crying for about 10 minutes!...
zzy New term, AdnAkA !!!

Bye, Vladimir :)

... Now you can turn off the computer's power...

DG>> STEP in its entirety is currently working on the Organizing Committee
DG>> of the International Festival of Computer Art "FunTop'98".
EM> Congratulations. I hope you will provide for everyone visitors with hotel rooms?

No problem. Send money and you will get a number. What do you think, in Metropol or in
Balchug?

To each his own. Some make programs that they find worthwhile, others are more
interested in restoring and remixing games and system programs, publishing
newspapers and magazines. You don't blame Sir Clise for the fact that he "independently did not make a single worthwhile program on the Spectrum." Or Tim Follin, who
wrote amazing music in his time, but not programs...

EM> :))))))))))) And if you at SU.SCIENCE start a conversation, for example, about
EM> the nature of light, you show that you don’t understand anything about this issue, and they
EM> send you to “read a textbook”, and then you will proudly say “these lamers have left
EM> answer" ? IMHO - yes, you would say so. :))))

Well, if you can’t even say who YOU ​​consider hackers, then what can I even talk to
you about?

EM> In neither case, you do not have a license to change
EM> _someone else's_ program.

Of course. Yes, and it is not needed.

EM> That is. this is a violation of the right of privacy.
EM> 1) The fact that you release a “broken” version does not change anything - the “broken”
EM> version is counterfeit, as well as all the versions that will be obtained from
EM> it. 2) The fact that you are releasing a Snapshot frivolous version
EM> again does not give anything. Because you only have the right to _use_
EM> the program, and not _change_ it at your own discretion.

Western companies now don’t care who does what with their Spectrum work.
Especially in another part of the world. No? Prove it.

EM> That's all about legislation. As for
EM> definitions, read On-Line #1. There, your friend Grigoriev described everything
EM> quite clearly.

Online is not at hand. Yes, and I didn’t ask you for a definition:

>>> Write on what specific criteria a releaser is a hacker.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

DG> So what? Just someone's opinion (signature where?)... Or rather,

this is from HackerDictionary. Eric Raymond e...@snark.thyrsus.com (215)-296-5718

DG> transfer popular opinions. Why in English? So,

you have... there are 1.5 mega different baubles, such as lamer, cracker, cracker and more
a lot of everything you can imagine, and even more. Everywhere
there are a bunch of references to each other... a very interesting thing...
Translating such things is unrealistic. it will be very hunchbacked.

As for opinions... compiled by people who are not stupid, and not ours ->
there is a chance that they know a little more about it.

DG> do you think it’s more plausible? ;) Although Sergey, of course, is a hacker, albeit for now
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think it’s clearer this way.

DG> doesn’t admit it ;)

:)

Good Luck...

... SENILE.COM found . . . Out Of Memory. . .

SN> Where did you find this?

from the dictionary of computer jargon: Hacker`s Dictionary.

SM> From this it follows that a hacker is generally any
SN> enthusiastic programmer or even just an expert in any field...
SN> Sad ;(

so it is.

Good Luck...

...COFFEE.EXE Missing - Insert Cup and Press Any Key

SH> Stop slowing down. All Western games have long since become freeware.

And who told you this? Have you read the resolution of the central committee of the capitalist party? But why does everyone want money for them?
I’m talking about the law, and not about established practice. These are different things for us.

With respect, Shor Kan.
(2:5078/22.9, Sun December 21 1997 02:05 )

In the bloody throes of the keyboard Wed December 17 1997 03:10, Vitaly Samoylov typed
for Alex Petrovskii:

AP>> Shor Kan.

SH> Something familiar...

Star kings. Edward Hamilton. There is such a character there ;).

With respect, Shor Kan.
(2:5078/22.9, Sun December 21 1997 02:46 )

AP> And who told you this? Have you read the resolution of the central committee
AP> of the capitalist party? Why does everyone want money for them? I
AP> am talking about the law, not about established practice. These are different things for us.

There will be confirmation... Wait a little.

AP> With respect Shor Kan.

EM>> hotels?

SN> No problem. Send money and you will get a number. How are you, in the Metropol or
SN> in Balchug?

As you understand, this was Sergei Novikov’s answer to Evgeniy Milun...

For all participants and guests of the Festival, the Organizing Committee is forced to state that
unfortunately, we really will not be able to provide visitors with hotel rooms at our own expense. Muscovites agreed to accept many people into their apartments... In general, the “inlight” option was adopted. Let me remind you that officially
The festival will last one day and those who wish will be able to leave the same evening.

In the bloody throes of the keyboard Sat December 20, 1997 23:11, Sergei Novikov typed
for Evgeny Milun:

SH> Western companies now don’t care who does what with their Spectrum
SH> works. Especially in another part of the world. No? Prove it.

If you're stealing wires from a factory, and the guard doesn't care, that doesn't mean you're not stealing!
Let's send a letter to these companies. They say there is such a comrade (I mean you)
violating your copyright and his (your) full address.
Why is your soul not in your heels yet?

Sincerely Shor Kan.
(2:5078/22.9, Sun December 21 1997 13:14 )

16 Dec 97 16:44, Sergei Novikov reported to Alex Petrovskii about {-=-}:

SH>>> I say lamer.

Today one person gave a good phrase: “A lamer is the one who breaks everything
in a row” :)

With warm greetings, Glory!

16 Dec 97 21:58, Artem Kharitonov reported by Vyacheslav Mednonogov about
{MaGaZiNeZzzz}:

VM>> Ha, Expert Spectrum will also be released soon (if I haven’t confused
VM>> the title :) by X-Trade - let’s see who wins! ;)

AH> Again some kind of flame like the Rage demo... What can they do? Am I looking for
AH> information? If their “progressive” coder doesn’t even know what the Internet is... No,

But they have a release date on December 27th (that’s what Dangerous said). [By the way, he
received the letter]

Warm greetings, Slava!

Hi Dmitry!

DL> P.S. SPECTRUM EXPERT comes out this week...

what is it?

DL> -+- ZXASM 3.0
^^^^^^
why not a storm? :)

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Thank you. Didn't expect it.

AH> What can they do? Am I looking for information?

You'll see. Probably.

AH> If their “progressive” coder doesn’t even know what the Internet is...

Well, I personally don’t need your Internet! Unless you correspond with people like you
No, stop yourself from dubious pleasures.
“Who is there to marry when there are only crocodiles all around...” (c) anecdote.

Or play “fresh” games from 1990. I'm not a gamer. And not a releaser.

And for our magazine, I’m not the one who deals with the Internet. I'm a coder.