Thank you Sergey...

You should at least change SUBJ or something...from now on I suggest you publish your verbal skirmishes
under SUBJ: Novikov vs Milun...so as not to misinform others, otherwise
flame appears from time to time under different SUBJ, but what good is it? 0.
Sorry, gentlemen, administration and dear subscribers!
I must note that I would be happy to read E. Milun’s articles on any issues regarding the Spectrum here or other technical issues in other suitable
echoes. Sergey, at least, besides verbal battles, manages to do something
else, since from time to time we all here see the fruits of his creativity,
but here We haven’t seen anything from his opponent here for a long time. And the Oberons don’t rush here, unlike RVL. Well, if not the Oberons, then something in the form of a gift to the public with all my heart. Weak, Evgeniy?
>
>>>>> And what, restoring programs is already “the author’s work”? Yes, live forever, live forever
>SN> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>SN> By the way, where was this said? U?
> And the phrase “the creative group Step represents” doesn’t count? Like that
>"I, the famous writer Vasya Pupkin, present a new _plagiarized_ work
>of my student <...>".
And what, is someone hiding whose game he is restoring? Or trying to pass it off as
the author's work?Then what's the problem? Who actually breaks through the wide open doors?
>
>>>>> learn. And just about a year and a half ago, the whole step considered it completely
>>>>> differently...
As far as I remember, they were simply trying to support Russian authors, because
the list of Russian author's works is not so great, alas. Why are you all hiding behind Slava? For some reason, you remind me of one
>hero from “Mowgli”...
We all look like someone from time to time ;)... so let’s remember Krylov, “What do the gossips do to count…”

>EM>>, etc. etc., and then they themselves become hackers,
But not crackers, and these are “two big differences”...I, for example, am a “teapot”...
although there is nothing to be proud of here...the main thing is to be a human being with all that.

>
>SN> Listen, rather than attack Rival, it’s better to immediately unsubscribe from the echo. Neither I,
>SN> nor many others will tolerate this.
> :))))))) And what will you do? I already asked you once - why,
>if I don’t like _your_ judgments, should I unsubscribe? Is this your echo?
Listen, Evgeniy...what are you trying to achieve is unclear...remember Gaidar about the boy who ran all the time and shouted “fire, fire...”
And youwhat are you trying on?...do you need popularity like... "ahhh, this is the same Milun"?
In general, as a person completely uninterested in which of you will prevail in this endless squabble, I tell you...give up this occupation,
do something useful.
Sergey, and I'm telling you...leave me alone...in the end, what can you prove to a person who doesn't accept yours? _axioms_, if they are different for him and those around him, their own...
let them build their own proofs, develop their own world.
In one world there are some authorities, in another - others.
In one word, “West is West, East is East, and they can’t come together.”
It’s better and it doesn’t come together...why poison each other’s lives?...the world is great,
life is so small...
>EM>>> Matveev signed off, but Novikov stayed and continued his work.
Yu.M. answered to the point... and in his short answers there is more information
than in your lengthy opuses on the topic "he's afraid of me"...
And for me, for example, it is obvious that if not for emotions, S.N. “I would put you on both shoulders” in two or three letters...you don’t answer anywhere on the merits...you argue for the sake of arguing...only so as not to be publicly defeated in the dispute. But we need to “play by the rules.”
>EM>>> He shut up only after my promise to punch him in the face, if not
>EM>>>will stop... Now, it seems, it has started again...
Is this the umpteenth time? If in the past, then for completely different reasons, I already know...
and whoever stops first in such cases shows that he is smarter...
this time it seems he didn’t bother you. And why the hell did they create a bazaar under my SUBJ
? Here, in theory, we were talking about RVL. Can you publish something better
and throw it here? So come on, who will be against it. If you are, as it were, a critic, then criticize
the contents of RVL, and don’t badmouth the publisher and editor - this is no longer literary
criticism, but something that smacks of school...buttons in the ass of excellent students and other
schoolboyism.
>VM>> Never mind, you’ll sort it out on FanTop :)
>SN> Yeah. Let him come. We're waiting, sir. Organizers: 12 people 8)
Yes...brothers...we should be more careful about “punching faces”...you yourself know
what times we live in. In general, throw both of these out of your heads...it still wasn’t enough to get people into a showdown...

Have a good hunt everyone!Andrey AKA m@s/CENSUS GROUP Spb

another compo on Chaos Constructions - Fighters. duration 1 hour - 3 rounds,
20 minutes each. use of firearms is prohibited (unless specified). loser gets
bullet in his forehead. winner's photo will be published in scenergy #0, look
for initials SN.
executed and organised by Concern Chaos. August 1998. Leningrad.
2arty ? what ya think ?

Regards,
Random
--
Lord of Chaos.
e-mail: ran...@cybermail.net

Concern Chaos WWW HQ: http://www.cybermail.net/~random/

AS> Sergey and I’m telling you... leave me alone... in the end, what can you prove
AS> to a person who does not accept your _axioms_, if he and his
AS> surroundings are different, their own...

It’s useless. The fact is that even a tweet is powerless against Milunia: you tweet,
and Milun will still continue to crap about you in the echo, in each of his letters.
You have to respond. And everything repeats again.

VP> regarding all questions. so the mistake was mine, it’s up to me and
VP> to correct it - for this I ask everyone to simply ignore this flame. he
VP> on his own will calm down very soon without our help.

OK, let's do it this way. Just not sure if this will help. If, after the 25th, attacks on STEP continue to come from Milun... We'll decide. ~~ Even more
weeks.

VP> There is no greater punishment for the gray flammonanist than lack of reaction.

Who knows...

AS> Can you publish something better and post it here? So come on, who will
AS> be against.

Are you laughing? :) Who will give him an interview?

Regards,
Random
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Lord of Chaos.
e-mail: ran...@cybermail.net

Concern Chaos WWW HQ: http://www.cybermail.net/~random/

>> VP> regarding all questions. so the mistake was mine, I need to correct it
>> VP> - for this I ask everyone to simply ignore this flame. it
>> VP> on its own will calm down very soon without our help.
>>
>> OK, let's do it this way. Just not sure if this will help. If after the 25th of
>> Milun continues to receive attacks on STEP... We will decide. ~~ More
>> more than a week.

Wednesday December 17 1997 03:38, Andrew Savichev ─── All:

AS> for any questions regarding the Spectrum here or other technical issues
AS> in other suitable echoes. Sergey, at least, besides verbal battles,
AS> manages to do something else,
:))))) That is. manages to format the text for RVL and attach intros to programs pulled from the Internet? In that case, yes - I'm much less
prolific. :( I’m just making my own text editor, in which
all texts for Oberon are created and designed, I’m making a package for the FTN network on
Spectrum, and sometimes I write articles. Moreover, all this is exclusively in the evening after
work, and on weekends.

AS> since from time to time we all here see
AS> the fruits of his creativity, and We haven’t seen anything from his opponent here for a long time
AS>. And the Oberons don’t throw themselves here, unlike RVL.
:)))))) How do you imagine yourself throwing 640 kilobytes? We don't have any files.
AS> Well, if not
AS> Oberons, then something in the form of a gift to the public from the bottom of our hearts. Weak, Evgeniy?
The moderator will kill me on the spot. :))) But in general, Oberon is a non-commercial magazine (like all our programs), and therefore... “nope, not weak.” If
you want, I can send it to you on the Internet.

[.....]

AS>> this is your occupation, do something useful.
EM> :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) So I do something useful. Or
EM> only “fresh” games from the Internet are useful, as SN assures us?
~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~

What are you saying, absolutely?.. I don’t even want to argue. But there is no need to slander.

With God's blessing, Sergei Novikov AKA Spirit/STEP

ZxNet: 095/100.99, FidoNet: 2:5020/689.1, InterNet: reviv...@chat.ru
Phone: (095) 952-46-19 [16.00-18.00]

... Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my Soul to keep.

SN> It seems to me that you don’t quite understand how much needs to be done
SN> to release one issue of RVL. More precisely, you have no idea at all. And the argument about
SN> that all that needs to be done is to format the text is lame.
Well, I’m so dark. :))) I have never in my life published any
electronic publication...

SN> [Although I seem to have been trying not to come across at some point, but this is rather
SN> a statement of facts.] As for attaching int's - similar insanity. The
SN> process of creating a release is much more complicated.
:)))))))))))))))