REBEL STAR-128 [1/10]
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From Evgeny Milun → To All 27 June 1997
Hello All !
Поскольку мне уже поpядком надоела эта мышиная возня вокpуг REBEL STAR
и моего "послания" к СПФ в нем, вот кидаю сам СПФ-оpигинал.
У кого ее еще нет - беpите, не пожалете. Игpа очень даже хоpошая.
А тем, кто ее уже видел, советую обpатить внимание на "hiden part" - за-
гpузите игpу в pежиме 128, выбеpите _любую_ часть (1 или 2, или 3), в появив-
шемся cheat-меню включите музыку (5-й пункт - Sound), и... наслаждайтесь за-
глючившим компьютеpом.
P.S. Чуть не забыл. Пpогpамма взята с _фиpменного_ ИФК диска с СПФ-16.
P.P.S. Кому эта "hiden part" понpавиться, напишите письмо кому-нибудь из Степа.
(Пpавда на все это они вам ответят - "у вас глючный компьютеp, на _наших_ все
pаботало"). А еще лучше - достаньте где-нибудь сам СПФ-16, а я вам скажу как
_HЕ_ попасть в подобные "хиден паты" в дpугих пpогpаммах из этого номеpа.
2Moderator: Если она пpобегала в фэхе - соppи. У нас фэха не ходит. :(((
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Good luck ! Evgeny.
From Andrey Mihaylow → To All 30 June 1997
Greetings, dear Evgeny!
Friday June 27 1997 14:11, Evgeny Milun crucified in front of All:
EM> Since I’m already pretty tired of this mouse fuss around REBEL
EM> STAR and my “message” to SPF in it, I’m throwing it myself SPF-original.
EM> For those who don’t have it yet, take it, you won’t regret it. The game is very good.
EM> And for those who have already seen it, I advise you to pay attention to the “hiden part”
EM> - load the game in mode 128, select _any_ part (1 or 2, or
EM> 3), in the cheat menu that appears, turn on the music (5th item - Sound),
EM> and... enjoy the glitched computer.
EM> P.S. I almost forgot. The program was taken from the _branded_ IFC disk with SPF-16.
EM> P.P.S. Whoever likes this “hiden part”, write a letter to someone
EM> from Stepa. (True, to all this they will answer you - “your computer is buggy, everything worked on _ours”). And even better - get
EM> somewhere SPF-16 itself, and I’ll tell you how _NOT_ to get into similar
EM> “hidden stalemates” in other programs from this issue.
You know, in my opinion, this has already gone too far, why was it necessary
to throw RS into the echo? By this you showed your lack of respect not only for me and for everyone else, if you are so concerned about why the program does not work from the BASIC 128K menu thenYou have
several options for getting out of this far from dead-end situation:
1. Enter BASIC 128K, remove USR 0,"ENTER",RANDOMIZE USR 15616,"ENTER"
RUN "REBEL STAR","ENTER"
2. Make a reset button in "TR-DOS".
3. And finally, go into the disk doctor (or HIEW) and change 4 bytes:
Offset from the beginning of the file = 89 (59h)
Replace: | a
3E FF FD A4 | FD CB 01 A6
And all problems will disappear!
EM> But "REBEL STAR"? It's basically UNWORKABLE IN 128K MODE!!!
Your words (OBERON#1) ?
To _solve the problem, let's bet $100 if I come to you
and you run music in RS (from SPF-16) on your machine
(only without tricks) then I won, if I don't succeed, then you !
(and I’m going to launch on 1 point (see above))
If you don’t agree, then apologize at least publicly in the echo!
EM> NO this is not a simple tampering, we had to sweat over its
EM> restoration
Yes, this once again emphasizes your professionalism, which is why your version
became larger by 1 sector? And what right did you have to throw away our (PoS)
screensaver? And I’m also curious what you restored there? The most your work can achieve is '128K FIXED'!
Again, I'm waiting for a public apology!
EM> Do you know how long it took us to find the "glitch"?
EM> and you knowHow easy was it all?
It’s immediately clear that you are real hackers and understand the program better than
the author! And there was probably so much joy that you didn’t even try to launch
the program not from the 128K menu (remember TASM),
and what’s there to waste there (on the issue of professionalism)?
With respect Andy Man\PoS\PCCC
PS. For my part, I want to apologize to STEP for putting such a shame on them! And I expect an apology from SoK and personally from EM!
From Evgeny Milun → To All 2 July 1997
Hello Andrey !
Monday June 30 1997 23:05, Andrey Mihaylow ─── Evgeny Milun:
[.....]
AM> You know, in my opinion, this has already gone too far, why is it necessary
AM> to throw RS into the echo? By this you showed your disrespect not only to me and to everyone else, if you are so worried
AM> why the program does not work from the BASIC 128K menu, then you have
AM> several options for getting out of this not at all dead-end situation:
Compi. But in March they called me a notorious liar just because I
said that there was a glitch in this program. Now they tried to do it again. If I offended you, I'm sorry. But if you carefully read my correspondence with the Stepovites,
then... then why didn’t you, as the author, intervene earlier????!!!! ( Somehow I didn’t think that Step could so vehemently deny everything in your presence. )
AM> 1. Enter BASIC 128K, select USR 0,"ENTER",RANDOMIZE USR 15616,"ENTER"
AM> RUN "REBEL STAR","ENTER"
AM> 2. Make a reset button in "TR-DOS".
AM> 3. And finally get into the disk doctor (or HIEW) and change 4 bytes:
AM> Offset from the beginning of the file = 89 (59h)
AM> Replace: | a
AM> 3E FF FD A4 | FD CB 01 A6
^^^^^^^^^^^
AM> And all the problems will disappear!
I don’t need itnothing to prove, I personally made a normal version a long time ago.
And practically the way you just described - the same through RES 4, (IY+1).
AM> To _solve the problem, let's bet $100 if I come to you
AM> and you will launch music in RS (from SPF-16) on your machine
AM> (only without scoundrel) then I won, if I don’t succeed then you!
AM> (and I’m going to launch according to 1 point (see above))
I told you - I myself know how to do it. (Well, I won’t give you $100,
I’m greedy ;))))))
AM> If you don’t agree, then apologize at least publicly in the echo!
What exactly should you apologize for? I didn't understand you.