Transfer of commercial information

Saturday February 14 1998 09:27, Andrew Savichev ─── All:

AM>> What difference does it make whether commercial information brings profit if it is transferred
AM>> to everyone or to an individual? Regarding the need for everyone and one’s own enrichment -
AM>> this, IMHO, is sophistry. In any case, such a thing should be. authorized.
AS> Since when did toys, music, graphics become commercial information?
Let's start with the fact that:
1) With Fido, all files except text files can be transferred only after successful
encoding. According to Fido-policy, sending yuuks by netmail without having
the appropriate permissions from ALL transit nodes is PROHIBITED.
2) Since all these “toys, music, graphics,” etc. the authors will
receive money, then this can be called “commercial information.”
AS> In addition, sent to all networks without any restrictions?
AS> I unconditionally support Sergei in this!
Well, it’s completely and absolutely in vain...
AS> The money is collected by networks (i.e. their subscribers): ZX-NET and FIDO. After
AS> the author is paid the required amount, the product becomes FREE for the networks
AS>.
Damn, what kind of nonsense is this? I here (as the author!!!) hesitated to ask:
1) Where will the money be sent (transferred)?
2) Who will “send” the money to the author??
3) Who and by what criteria will evaluate the programs?
4) What are the rights/responsibilities of the author?
5) What are the rights/responsibilities of users?
6) How is “the rest of the Spectrum world” taken into account when not reading
this echo? Or is all this “clean for her boys”?
7) Why the hell is all this necessary if EVERYONE gets the program? Isn’t it easier not to fence this delusional garden, but simply to support several traders
(for example, the same Zonov), and make them into large distributors
“according to all standards”? Well, why the hell do we need all this “Spectrum MMM”?

AS> You just need to accompany it with a document like: “It is prohibited
AS> to be transferred to any media for the purpose of extracting commercial benefits.” And
AS> make invisible marks in her very body like “microdots”. Detection
AS> 5-6 bits that are not accessed (or even
AS> "ignoring reading") "from within" the program, even in a 30k piece (245760
AS> bits) is unrealistic (this must be estimated using combinatorics the number of combinations
AS> of 5-6 out of 24576), and therefore identification of the program intended for
AS> use by network subscribers (the number of which, and even names,
AS> are known (FIDO subscribers only wrote here, but we hope that
AS> every readerat least once I was a “writer” :)
Andrey... Don’t talk about what you don’t know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“The number of people writing in the echo” <> “the number of people reading the echo.” Only offhand, and only in Samara, can I name 5-6 people who have NEVER WRITE HERE
HERE, but who constantly read this echo... If you don’t know yet, then
IN FIDO YOU CAN’T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SUBSCRIBED TO SOME
ECHO !!!!!!
Excuse me, but what you wrote above - mmmm... far from the truth.

AS> ) - will not be much
AS> work for the author. The appearance of such a program among “civilized” traders is
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AS> is a reason for legal proceedings (and “uncivilized” authors need to
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It’s like ?
AS> simply boycott, i.e. let them be doomed forever to robbery until they “run into trouble” ) because a license is attached to the product with an agreement on
AS> use, take any from the Russian vyndos and write your own by analogy
AS>.
Are you aware that:
1) In our country lynching is prohibited.
2) ANY person is considered INNOCENT until his guilt is proven
IRREVENTABLY EVIDENCE.
3) Despite the already three-weekdiscussion of SOS, there was not a single reference to any “internal SOS” document regulating
the relationship between the project participants...

AS> Thus, two birds with one stone are killed: both the use of the network -
AS> is non-commercial (since the network itself is the buyer and distributes
AS> products to all its subscribers without restrictions), and the path to the non-network
AS> world is legally closed to products!
Nothing like that...
AS> Sergei Novikov and I fundamentally disagree on only one thing:
AS> I want people to decide for themselves what to buy, i.e. what should I buy from
AS> on their behalf "Spectrum"-network (SpectrumNetWorld).
This is the first time I've heard about this. A new charitable organization ?

AS> If he introduces a “barrier”, say 99 votes, reduces the size of “extortions” and
AS> cancels “draconian measures” against non-payers (only those who vote “for” pay for each
AS> product and if a person paid at least $5 for
AS> a year and voted 5 times, the voting price is $1) - then I will be his support!
You first formalize all this into the charter, then we will vote on it, and then
then we will talk seriously about it...

AS> Products are divided by price into 5 categories:
AS> ( $ 99 - $ 199, any newspapers and releasedbourgeois toys, demos
(By the way, IFK stopped buying “releases” already in 1996. This was once
told to me at IFK itself when I called there.)
AS> $200 - $ 399, some newspapers, designer toys and magazines, system
AS> software $400 - $ 599, the same (except for newspapers), better quality and increase demand
AS> $600 -$ 799, “super” - category for non-greedy and kind (well-fed) authors;) authors
AS> $800 -$1000 the same, for “greedy” or “hungry” authors;) Request to
AS> authors, do not be offended :) Networks are simply not able to purchase more expensive things
AS>, because collecting such amounts of money, IMHO, is simply unrealistic with
AS> 500-700 people. )
This can be considered “the first sign of the future charter”?

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Good luck! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.