Need Help!!!
ZXNet echo conference «zx.spectrum»
From Sergey Chmihov → To All 3 March 1998
Hello, All!
A description of modem protocols (preferably Xmodem) is required as detailed as possible and preferably in Russian!!! _SOAP_PLIZ_ .
Best wishes, Sergey.
P.S. Specrumists!!! There is an attempt to create a network for you in Izhevsk!!!
Any help is accepted (Descriptions of protocols, modem circuits, sources and
ready-made software, and everything you can offer!!!) Express all your wishes
_SOAP_ on Origin or _SOAP_ on 2:5050/13.106
Morning and evening, night and day, on the way from work, on the way to grocery store...
From Eugene Malkov → To All 3 March 1998
* Crossposted in ZX.SPECTRUM
* Crossposted in MY_MAIL
I greet you from the bottom of my heart, Sergey!
Tue Mar 03 1998, Sergey Chmihov squeezed the keyboard, hoping that the following words would reach All:
SC> A description of modem protocols (preferably Xmodem) like
SC> is required More detailed information is possible and preferably in Russian!!! _SOAP_PLIZ_ .
They have already begun to die off...
SC> P.S. Specrumists!!! There is an attempt to create a network in Izhevsk for
SC> you!!! Any help is accepted (Descriptions of protocols, modem diagrams,
SC> source codes and ready-made software, and everything you can offer!!!) Express all your
SC> wishes _SOAP_ on Origin or _SOAP_ on 2:5050/13.106
My advice to you is better to connect hases and go to Fido (IMHO).
Hasta la vista.
Tim Kelly
From Sergey Chmihov → To All 5 March 1998
EM> They have already begun to die off...
It’s just that the software currently available only works with this protocol... :( And to
write new software, protocol descriptions are needed.
EM> My advice to you is better to connect Hayes and go to Fido (IMHO).
1) Not every spektrumist in our city can afford a normal
Hayes modem, but 9600 and lower can no longer be found (and there won’t be enough for all of them...)
2) For this business you need software, and connection diagrams would not hurt... Although we have
we have several ideas, but they are still at the stage of detailing and development.
Access to Fido on the Spectrum is certainly not a bad idea, but we wanted to make a network
exactly _for_Spectrumists_ with gateing in Fido. Therefore, for now we need
the simplest developments to unite all (most) spektrumists in the city. As this happens, creativity will grow, and as it grows, much more advanced solutions will appear. And in general, this is our first attempt to start a
_LARGE_ association of city spektrumists.
Best wishes, Sergey.
In new areas of the big city, war is the law...
From Evgeny Milun → To All 10 March 1998
Hello Sergey !
Thursday March 05 1998 10:14, Sergey Chmihov ─── Eugene Malkov:
[.....]
SC> 2) This business requires software, and connection diagrams would not hurt... Although
SC> we have several ideas, but they are still at the stage of detailing and development.
Why Why not take ready-made circuits and software? :)
SC> Access to Fido on Spectrum is certainly not a bad idea, but we wanted to make a network
SC> specifically _for_Spektrumists_ with gating in Fido.
So the ftn-network can be “for Spectrumists”. :)
Good luck! Evgeny.
■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.
From Denis Dmitriev → To All 10 March 1998
SC> we wanted to make a network By the way, this is not a PC-mization of the spectrum, as many may think. The modem is a standard computer peripheral, it works on Amigas, Macs, etc., but it wasn’t on the spec, because... there was no ISA-8 interface. Unfortunately, Kondratiev's circuit, like ours, the Kharkov modem connection circuit, SC> bye to us we need SC> _LARGE_ association spektrumists of the city. With the best, Denis.
SC> specifically _for_spektrumist_ with gating in Fido. Therefore
What's the point?
For the price of a cdos modem, you can also get a Hayes 2400 with protocols,
and the compatibility of the latter is much higher, does not depend on
the speed of the machine (no need for messages like
transmission speed due to protocols can increase to 4800bps
on unpacked files, + direct output to Fido (software, some kind, but there is one, it works great at 128K).
And in the future, you can install a better modem, _without_soldering irons_ and without losing
compatibility with the outside world. In the case of cdos modems, any options
replacement with more nimble modifications disappear - you will be left alone with your
miracle. ;)
Therefore, I don’t see any reasons forcing you to create your own network,
cutting off from the outside world; except for one reason -
the desire of the future gate to keep the network “under its thumb.”
I hope this is not so? ;)
does not fully work with the hardware for this bus,
more precisely, they are intended exclusively for Hayes modems.
And as far as I knowI know that not a single modem has yet refused to work with them (of course, there is a flaw in the
schemes, namely, it is necessary to
buffer the address bus, and it is desirable for the data bus, because
otherwise in 80% of cases the modem will not be able to work + there will be glitches
on the address bus -> failures in programs)
SC> the simplest developments to unite all (most)
SC> spektrumists in the city. By
Install 2400 haes, organize people to receive fido addresses, or allocate them yourself, organize as many emails as your city needs, and here is your network. Direct communication,
direct control of spektrumist-moderators over pisishnikami -
well, what spektrumist, having seen this, would not want to get into the network?
And there are a whole lot of advantages - everyone is free to find a boss
with whom he has the best connection, and not choose from a very
limited list; anyone can subscribe to as many eh as they want, and
you won’t have a headache for traffic ;)
well, and much more. Plus the prospect is the Internet. For now it's just
clouds (beer;), but you can make a simple text browser
(that's where the extra memory of over 128K will come into use!).
just download ALL so that you can see the descriptions of
uucp and tcpip (in this matter I'm still minus #00).
Now, fido is already a large organization,i.e.
the first spektrumist with a modem will join fido, and will not wait until his
comrades also get modems.
From Sergey Chmihov → To All 11 March 1998
SC>> we have several ideas, but they are still at the stage of detailing and development.
EM> Why not take ready-made circuits and software? :)
Which, in principle, is what I wanted to receive as an answer to my first letter,
and the development of my own ideas is going on in parallel, in case of complete failure...
SC>> Access to Fido on the Spectrum is certainly not a bad idea, but we wanted
SC>> to make a network specifically _for_spectrumists_ with gating in Fido.
EM> So the ftn-network can be “for Spectrumists." :)
Maybe... But do you like pioneers in echoes??? Which within a day of subscribing
I start earning rewards. Personally, I don't like this! Ideally, I would let the
spectrumists stew in their own juice, and then decide whether to
release them further or not...
Best wishes, Sergey.
The Army of Life remembers that war has never stopped on earth
From Boris Sokol → To All 13 March 1998
SC> Maybe... But do you like pioneers in echoes??? Which, every other day from
SC> subscription, I start earning rewards. Personally, I don't like this! In
SC> I would ideally let the spektrumists stew in their own juice eh, and
This is a completely correct approach.
In St. Petersburg, we are finishing writing a program that automates the process of processing mail
for the user.
Next is the software for the node. ON SPEC - preferably sprinter, sprinter.
We have our own letter format, convenient for dummies. A letter can be written in
any editor, although there is also a special editor + tosser.
And you need to make such software under isdos and screw.
Boris.
From Boris Sokol → To All 13 March 1998
SC>> specifically _for_spectrumists_ with gating in Fido. Therefore
DD> Put 2400 haes, organize people to receive
DD> fido addresses, or allocate them yourself, organize as many eh as
DD> your city needs, and here you have a network. Direct communication,
You are absolutely right, but...
Not all spectrists will agree with you. That's why they need a network on their own sockets.
The advantage of such a network is the maximum ease of working with email software and ease of writing letters.
I myself have been climbing Fido for two years since spec. It’s only been three days since I sat down on three rubles and I see that it’s much more convenient for a teapot Sinclairist to take mail in his net.
PS. By the way, the mother of three, with whom I am writing you a letter, was given to me by just such a spektrumist. With his Wicom he comes to me and knows no grief.
DD> Plus the prospect - the Internet. For now these are just clouds (of beer ;), but a simple
DD> text browser can be made (that’s where the extra memory of over
DD> 128K will come into play!). Now, just download ALL so that you can see the descriptions of uucp
DD> and tcpip (in this matter I’m minus #00 for now).
DD> Now, fido is already a large organization, i.e.
DD> the first spektrumist with a modem will join fido, and will not wait until
DD> his comrades will also get modems.
And all these goodies will be the second stage for dummiespostal workers.
Boris.