Crackers - MUST DIE!!!

Greetings from the bottom of my heart, Andrew!

Wed Mar 11 1998, Andrew Savichev squeezed the keyboard, hoping that the following words would reach All:

>> said, maybe they broke it and sold (are selling) with all their might, so I would so
>> I didn’t speak consistently!

AS> And that the traders themselves don’t have accurate information?
AS> Or do you take us all here for whom?
AS> For blessed fools in glasses? ;)

Yes, there is information, there is, it cannot but exist :)

I received a netmail letter with a message that a brigade has been assembled and will be sent to Donetsk in the near future to _destroy_ pirates as a class
:) Hackers will not suffer, all the evil, as they wrote to me, is in the sellers who are pushing them. Therefore, a cleansing of Donetsk and Lugansk will be carried out. The consequences can
be serious:( People are serious. They won’t give in to persuasion, and I won’t
persuade. I won’t say what city they’re coming from, for the sake of their safety.
In any case, an email is not a document.

Hasta la vista.
Tim Kelly

Once I was in a museum and there, on an old, old stone, an ancient man carved that
Thursday March 19, 1998 right at 20:47, Eugene Malkov wrote to Andrew Savichev:

EM> Yes, there is information, there is, it cannot but exist :)

EM> I received it a netmail letter with a message that a brigade
EM> has been assembled and will soon be sent to Donetsk to _destroy_
EM> pirates as a class :) Hackers will not suffer, all the evil, as they wrote to me,
EM> is in the sellers who are pushing them to do so. Therefore, a purge
EM> of Donetsk and Lugansk will be carried out. The consequences can be severe:( People are
EM> serious. They won’t give in to persuasion, and I won’t try to persuade either. From
EM> I won’t say anything about what city they will come from, for the sake of their safety. In any case -
EM> an email is not a document.
Are you joking or serious? Aren’t you afraid that a brigade will soon gather in defense of
pirates and right-wing people might get crushed left side! And if we follow your example, then we wouldn’t want to get hit by pirates from our friends, because as is known, there are even more for every big closet. And it’s not worth starting a civil war in a country with an already heated situation.

Brothers from our most beloved (sorry for modesty) *Omega Hackers Group*
And with Mafia there will be a separate conversation! ;)

Peace to the world!
^^^^^^^^ -Joke!

EM> I received a netmail letter with the message that a brigade has been assembled and will be sent to Donetsk in the near future to _destroy_ pirates as a
EM> class :) Hackers will not suffer, all the evil, as they wrote to me, is in the sellers who are pushing them
EM>. Therefore, a cleansing of Donetsk and Lugansk will be carried out.
EM> The consequences can be serious :( People are serious. They won’t give in to persuasion
EM>, and I won’t persuade either. I won’t say what city they are coming from,
EM> for the sake of their safety. In any case, an email is not
EM> a document.

You inform us about the progress of the case |)

Andrey Savichev/CGS

AH> Are you joking or serious? Aren’t you afraid that the brigaal will soon gather in
AH> to protect the pirates and right-wing people may get their left side crushed!

You shouldn’t be like that :( In St. Petersburg two years ago they realized that everything is decided not by war or
money, but by great friendship :))

AH> Peace to the world!

I join :)

With warm greetings, Glory!

EM> I received a netmail letter with a message that a brigade has been assembled and
EM> in
EM> will soon be sent to Donetsk to _destroy_ pirates as
EM> class
EM> :) Hackers will not suffer, all the evil, as they wrote to me, is in the sellers, their on
EM> then pushing. Therefore, a cleansing of Donetsk and Lugansk will be carried out.
EM> The consequences may
EM> be serious :( People are serious. They won’t give in to persuasion, and
EM> I won’t try to persuade. I won’t say what city they’re coming from, for the sake of their
EM> safety.
EM> In any case, an email is not a document.

This, imho, is not a good decision problems, or even more likely _bad_. Maybe we should still try something else?

EM>> they will give in, and I won’t persuade them either. I will keep silent about which city they will come from, for the sake of their safety. In any case, the email is not
EM>> there is a
EM>> document.

SN> You inform us about the progress of the case |)

Such “cases” must be nipped at the roots. :-(((

AH> pirates and right-wing people can crush their left side! And if we follow
AH> your example, then we wouldn’t want to get hit by pirate friends
AH> because, as we know, for every large closet there are even more. And it is not worth
AH> to start a civil war in an already tense country.

This is not good. :-((((

EM>> brigade and in the near future will be sent to Donetsk for
EM>> _destruction_ of pirates as a class :) Hackers will not suffer, all
EM>> the evil, as they wrote to me, is in the sellers who push them to do this. Therefore
EM>> a cleansing of Donetsk and Lugansk will be carried out. The consequences can be
EM>> severe:( People are serious. They won’t give in to persuasion, and
EM>> and I won’t try to persuade either. Which city they will come from, I will keep silent for the sake of
EM>> their safety. In any case, the email is not
EM>> a document.

AH> in
AH> protection of pirates and right-wing people can crush their left side! And if
AH> follow your example, then I wouldn’t want to get hit by
AH> pirate friends, because, as you know, for every large closet there are
AH> more. And there’s no point in starting a civil war in an already tense situation in a country.

And it’s not us that everyone misunderstood my letter? :( We are for peace, force
we would have used a month ago, if we knew that it would lead to anything.
We just won’t stop anyone, and they won’t stop, once
they bought tickets for the train.

FOR THOSE WHO DON’T UNDERSTAND!!! IN THE UPCOMING SHOW
KGS Trading Department WILL TAKE PART, AS WELL AS PROMOTE

H E WILL D E T !

AH> Peace!
AH> ^^^^^^^^ - Joke!

I completely agree, but “if you want peace, prepare for war!”

AS> Such things are no joke! I personally don't find it funny. Fortunately, I would like
AS> to hope that spektrumists have slightly different ways of sorting things out.
AS> Unless among the superfans there is a person with THAT money and
AS> with THOSE views that evil should be stopped with evil.
AS> If this person is reading this message, I urge him to refrain from
AS> practical actions, unless of course the button has not yet been pressed.

It looks like _there_ already pressed :( At least they don’t respond to netmail!
Maybe... they’re already on their way? As if we would never get into trouble for anything... :(

I greet you from the bottom of my heart, Alex!

Mon Mar 23 1998, Alex Letaev squeezed the keyboard, hoping that the following words would reach Sergei Novikov
:

AL> This, imho, is not a good solution to the problem, but rather a _bad_ one.
AL> Maybe we should still try something else? :-(((

Otherwise we decided and are still deciding! BUT some people are more afraid for the Spectrum than me and have decided to travel far away from Russia for _their_ money just so that justice will triumph... Even if their actions are not correct, but we
all will not stop them and it is not up to us to decide whether they are right or wrong, since we could not do anything with our own conversations :(

Does anyone think that people just went for it? Do you think it’s nice
to rot in prison in a foreign country? And this could happen to them...

I in no way support the forceful method, but I myself, unfortunately, am too
weak to resist justice!

AH>> Are you joking or serious? Aren’t you afraid that soon the
AH>> brigall will gather in defense of the pirates and right-wing people can crush their left side!

VM> You shouldn’t be like that :( In St. Petersburg two years ago they realized that everything is decided not by
VM> war or money, but by great friendship :))

I can’t do anything anymore, even if I wanted to :(

AH>> To the world Peace!

VM> I join :)

So be it!

Andrey, are you still not used to this kindergarten? :(
"Brigade" :))))))))

In general, the theater was cuckooing, cuckooing and will cuckoo (C).

With respect, Tim. tyu...@usa.net [team Aries is Rulez Forever]

Monday March 23, 1998 right at 09:35, Alex Letaev wrote to Andy Harchenko:

AH>> there is even more. And there is no point in starting a civil war in an already
AH>> country with a tense situation.

AL> This is not good. :-((((
Yah :(((

AL> Sincerely, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

Wiz zE BeSt WisHeZ 2 U!
-=JoCkeR/OmEga HaCkErS Grp/1998year=-

Monday March 23, 1998 right at 20:29, Eugene Malkov wrote to Alex Letaev:

EM> Even if their actions are not correct, but we all will not stop them and it is not up to us
EM> to decide whether they are right or wrong, since we could not do anything with our
EM> conversations :(
Not true, worse, they can turn against them!!! :(
I don’t want to impose my opinion on anyone or teach someone how to live, but as
it is known (I hope everyone) to go to a debriefing in another city, for this purpose they take
at least a couple of lads’ buses. Of course, they don’t take the first lad they come across,
everything, as they say, depends on the case. Oh well, I hope that the guys are lucky and
everything will end normally (for them). Because I know of several such cases when they “came” to us in Rostov, so what, they didn’t go back further than the station - it’s a fact! And it can’t be any other way, because they don’t take on such things (without cabbage), and it’s clear to a fool that in their hometown,
in such a situation, visitors have no chance :( Eh, as they say. Odessa is mom,
Rostov is dad ;)

EM> Does anyone think that people just did this? Do you think
EM> is it nice to rot in prison in a foreign country?

Unfortunately, it’s impossible to come to an agreement with this man - he knows his own
repeats: “The market is big, there’s enough room for everyone, so you sell until they break me,
recoup your money, maybe you’ll make some money, and then my time
will come”, and all this in plain text, without any twinges of conscience!
And this happened more than once, several times when they tried with words to dissuade him from selling the things stolen from us, he simply started shouting 'Get out of here, you're ruining the market for me.' So, after that, decide how you can be 'friends' with
such a person...

u pakeda, Vyacheslav, pakeda!

[Team Alos MUST DIE!]

On the other hand, it might not hurt to show how theft can
end.

at the package, Alex, at the package!

[Team Alos MUST DIE!]

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With God's blessing, Sergei Novikov aka Spirit^dR^sNG

ZXNet: 500:095/100.99 î FidoNet: 2:5020/689.1 î E-mail: s-no...@usa.net

>e-mail: as...@usa.net

TY> Andrey, are you still not used to this kindergarten? :(
Why write about something you don’t know? At least add “IMHO” :(

TY> “Brigade” :))))))))

have a package, Tim, a package!
[Team thief Alos MUST DIE!]

I hit you with my forehead, Sergei!

I saw that on Wed Mar 25, 1998 Sergei Novikov wrote this to Eugene Malkov:

SN> And “who” did they want to go to? Stanley, IMHO, has nothing to do with it. For some reason
SN> they put all the blame on the CD, forgetting about that “Dima the pirate” from Donetsk,
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This Dima the pirate is not from
Donetsk but just from Lugansk :(

SN> who bribed one of the Crystal Dreamers. Wouldn’t it be better
SN> to deal with the pirates themselves? Then not It’s clear why go to
SN> Donetsk,
SN> because there are plenty of pirates everywhere.
As far as I know, a pirate in Donetsk won’t do well either, especially since the newspaper “Telegid” also published our article about ChV, which of course
mentions how to distinguish the author’s version from the pirated one!

from the package, Sergei, pakeda!

Somehow a long time ago, specifically Tuesday March 24, 1998 at 11:46 pm Andy Harchenko
wrote by Eugene Malkov:

AH> They are not true, worse, they can turn against them!!! :(
AH> I don’t want to impose my opinion on anyone or teach someone how to live, but as
AH> it is known (I hope everyone) to go to a showdown in another city, for
AH> this they take at least a couple of buses of the lads.

And serious lads - in serious cars, with serious weapons, etc.
This is _always_ preceded by serious "showdowns" on concepts, specific money should be involved in this matter, and both parties should have the same claims on them.

AH> Of course, they don’t take the first brother they come across, everything, as they say
AH> depends on the case.

Serious brothers will not bother because of some pirates on some
Spectrum. and for everything else
except for money. Specific money.

AH> Well, okay, I hope that the guys are lucky and everything ends well
AH> (for them) I know of several such cases when
AH> “came” to us in Rostov, so what, they didn’t go back further than the station
AH> - a fact!

Yeah, that’s a fact. reality. Lawless people are being shot down (and IMHO this is correct).

AH> Yes, andIt cannot be any other way, because cool for such
AH> things (without cabbage) are not taken, and it is clear to a fool that in his
AH> hometown, in such a situation, visitors have no chance :( Eh, as
AH> they say Odessa is mom, Rostov is dad ;)

In short, this is all nonsense (AKA noodles for our ears).

Dima the pirate is not from Donetsk, but from Lugansk, I doubt that he bribed,
rather they offered him. And they were/are going to/have gathered to go in order to deal with this Dima and the guy who calls himself Alos. I don’t know anything else, the netmail was from Russia, from complete strangers to me, they don’t write anymore and they don’t answer my letters. Apparently, I was warned because I
am here and so that I am aware of the matter.

>>> EM> I received a netmail letter with a message that a
>>> EM> brigade has been assembled and will soon be sent to Donetsk for
>>> EM> _destruction_ of pirates as a class :)
AS>> Such things are not joked about! I personally don't find it funny.

Do whatever you want with Dima, but we won’t give Zhek offense. There may be some idiots in the city, but it seems like this is his first offense. Yes, here in Lugansk we have prepared a “surprise” for the visiting people. Let them go, or leave as best friends
or not leave...

With a cheerful smile, but a sad look, Stanley.

[Team:E-652] [Team:Politburo] [Team:Patopsycho] [Team:Crystal Dream]

ES> Why write about what you don’t know? At least I added “IMHO” :(

Because I’ve had a lot of conversations with serious “brothers”, and I can assure you
that this doesn’t fit into the scheme described above.

Once upon a time, specifically Thursday March 26, 1998 at 08:11 pm Eugene Malkov
wrote by Tim Yunaev:

TY>> Andrey, are you not used to this kindergarten yet? :( “Brigade”
EM> Yeah, but to me, personally, it’s not funny at all. Several strong
EM> guys will arrive, smear their noses in the pirates’ faces and leave.

Now this is called “a brigade is gathering to physically destroy pirates”?

EM> Who will the pirates come to, how can they go?

It’s enough to talk to competent people - and the “strong guys” will find their
place in the nearest regional department->SIZO->Prison (that’s where they go).

If you have connections - remember, figure it out (entrust it to the specialists), come
load it with specific money (here we will be talking about an amount with at least
four zeros)

Who did they get the specific information from? And who pays for all this?
Or are the guys just having fun? will they come to another city, beat up their faces, spend money
and with a high probability learn the profession of a lumberjack for free?

EM> So I'm waiting... :(

I still think that someone was making a bad joke. Because it is shown as a serious
organization, but its goals are too primitive. You're an adult,
you've probably read/heard/seen about "brothers" (maybe even and communicate personally).
It’s something like someone would come to deal with the lads just for the fact thatthat they called him a lamer in the echo :) Circus on a wire.

SN>> For some reason, they put all the blame on the CD, forgetting about that “Dima the pirate” from
SN>> Donetsk,
ES> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This
ES> Dima the pirate is not from Donetsk, but just from Lugansk :(

Excuse me, excuse me... He tells everyone that he is from Donetsk, and he hangs out there all the time! In general, if the “brothers” “take up” him, then I’ll help him, because he got everyone here. He recently handed over to another Sinclairist friend a licensed version of some game = Ж8-() People, what should I do?

SN>> Donetsk, who bribed one of the Crystal Dreamers. Wouldn't it be better
SN>> to deal with the pirates themselves? Then it is not clear why
SN>> go to Donetsk, because there are plenty of pirates everywhere.
EM> Dima the pirate is not from Donetsk, but from Lugansk, I doubt that he
EM> was bribed, rather they offered him.

But this is what you are specifically wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, Zhenya made a specific mistake. BUT HE NEVER DECEIVED US! CD MEMBERS are not known for their nonsense at all. And since Zhenya (even when I kicked him out of the group)
said that they bought him, then they bought him. And no need to la-la. Catch this Dima and beat him up. And if he is from Lugansk, THEN MAKE SO THAT HE DOES NOT GO TO DONETSK!

EM> And they were/are going/getting ready to go
EM> to deal with this
EM> Dima and the mug who calls himself Alos.

As passive compensation, we can also throw down. We can do it with a group (with or without Zhenya), or we can do it with the “lads”. Exterminate hackers, so exterminate.

EM> I don’t know anything else, the netmail
EM> was from Russia, from complete strangers to me, they no longer write and
EM> they don’t answer my letters.

But from the point of view of a pathopsychologist, this is nonsense or a lie. (Although this is of course
just my opinion. Which may be wrong.)

EM> Apparently, I was warnedbecause
EM> I am here and so that I am in the know.

What’s the point?

VM>> not war or money, but great friendship :))
ES> Unfortunately, it is impossible to come to an agreement with this person - he knows
ES> repeats to himself: “The market is big, there’s enough room for everyone, here you are
ES> sell until they break me, recoup your money, maybe you’ll be a chav
ES> you’ll earn money, and then it’s my time
ES> will come', and all this in plain text, without any scruples
ES> of conscience! And this happened more than once, several times when they tried
ES> with words to dissuade him from selling the things stolen from us, he just
ES> simply started shouting 'Get out of here, you're ruining the market for me.' So
ES> decide after that how you can be 'friends' with such a person...

Zhenya, if you see me, write with soap, and I will advise you something practical.

ES> On the other hand, it might not hurt to show how theft
ES> can end.

But not with such methods.

ES>> moreover, in the newspaper "TV Guide" our article about CV was also published, in
ES>> which, of course, mentions how to distinguish the author's version from
ES>> the pirated one!

SI> Why isn't this article in the echo yet? IMHO, a very important article. Maybe
SI> you will publish?

Already. By the way, it also talks about the reaction to it. I've been laughing for three days now :))))))))) This is called _moral satisfaction_! :)

2CD Guys, don't be offended, but "an eye for an eye." There will be
a separate conversation about your next works.

SI> But you are specifically not
SI> right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, Zhenya made a mistake
SI> specifically. BUT HE NEVER DECEIVED US! CD MEMBERS
SI> are not known for their nonsense at all. And since Zhenya (even when I kicked him out of the
SI> group) said that they bought him, then they bought him. And no need to la-la.

I take my words back. I really don’t know anything, and it’s not for me to judge. Moreover, here I made a mistake :( Everyone knows the activity of
pirate merchants.

SI> Catch this Dima and crack him up. And if he is from Lugansk, THEN
SI> MAKE SO THAT HE DOESN'T COME INTO DONETSK!

He is just studying in Donetsk, according to his words. I saw him once, and that was enough for me
:( Unfortunately, our stadium is round, and it seems to go around us from
the other side. But if I see it... my tongue is heavy! :)

I hit you with my forehead, Stanley!

I saw that Sun Mar 29 1998 Stanley Ivanenko wrote to me this:

SI> Excuse me, allow me... He tells everyone that he is from Donetsk, and he hangs out
It’s strange, he came up to us and said that he lives in Lugansk, occasionally only comes to
Donetsk.

SI> there all the time! In general, if the “lads” “take up” him, then I will also
SI> help. And then he got everyone here. I recently handed over to another friend
SI> Sinclairist some licensed version of some game! = Ж8-() People,
SI> what should I do?
My opinion is this: try to catch someone and explain what’s what, you can even
intimidate them completely. If we see him in our market, we will thoroughly intimidate him,
so that he will no longer want to take broken goods to Donetsk or anywhere else.

SI>> œ⁄◊œÃÿ‘≈, –œ⁄◊œÃÿ‘≈... ˜”≈Õ «œ◊œ“…‘, fi‘œ …⁄ ‰œŒ≈√À¡, ƒ¡ … ‘’”’≈‘”— œŒ
ES> Û‘“¡ŒŒœ, À Œ¡Õ –œƒ»œƒ…Ã, «œ◊œ“…à fi‘œ ÷…◊£‘ ◊ Ï’«¡Œ”À≈, …⁄“≈ƒÀ¡ ‘œÃÿÀœ
ES> ◊ ‰œŒ≈√À –“…≈⁄÷¡≈‘.

˙Œ¡fi…‘ Œ≈ ÷…◊≈‘ Œ… ‘¡Õ, Œ… ‘¡Õ. :) ΡÀ ‘¡À…Õ Õœ÷Œœ ◊≈“…‘ÿ?

SI>> and I will help. And then he got everyone here. I recently handed over to another
SI>> sinclairist friend some kind of licensed version of some game!
SI>> = Ж8-() People, what should I do?
ES> My opinion is this: try to catch someone and explain what’s what,
ES> you can even completely intimidate. If we see him in our market
ES> we will thoroughly intimidate him, so that he will no longer want to carry broken things to Donetsk or anywhere else
ES>.

Come on guys, act. I will do what I can too. Only he is kind of strange, either without a roof, or not afraid...

SI>>> Excuse me, excuse me... He tells everyone that he is from Donetsk, and
SI>>> he hangs out
ES>> It’s strange, he came up to us and said that he lives in Lugansk,

SI>>> Excuse me, excuse me... He tells everyone that he is from Donetsk, and
SI>>> he hangs out
ES>> It’s strange, he came up to us and said that he lives in Lugansk,
ES>> he only comes to Donetsk occasionally.

SI>>> Excuse me, excuse me... He tells everyone that he is from Donetsk, and
SI>>> he hangs out
ES>> It’s strange, he came up to us and said that he lives in Lugansk,
ES>> occasionally only comes to Donetsk.
SN> That means he lives neither here nor there. :) How can you trust people like that?

I hit you with my forehead, Stanley!

I saw that Sat Apr 04 1998 Stanley Ivanenko wrote to me this:

SI> Get to work! What should you do, and he’s like a thorn in your side and he’s tempting our members
SI>, so what should you do?
Catch his bastard! We would have given it up a long time ago, but he doesn’t appear before our eyes :(

SI> Come on guys, act. I will do what I can too. Only he is some
I would love to, but look above.

SI> strange, either without a roof, or not afraid...
No, at least he hasn’t shown up in Donetsk for a long time.

Do you remember Mon Apr 06 1998 at 20:20, Eugene Safronov wrote a message for Stanley
Ivanenko:

SI>> Get to work! What to do, and for you he is like a thorn in the .ope and for us
SI>> he seduces members, so what should we do?
ES> Catch his bastard! We would have handed it over a long time ago, but
ES> he doesn’t appear before our eyes :(

We have him all the time.